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Let's also have some buddhist philosophy if it's ok with OP?

Should I start with the Vedas or the epics?
Or should I dive straight into the schools of orthodox thought?

POO

for me, it's in a Gadda da Vida

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>>11308153
Fuck off

>>11308153
>>11309472
yeah, that was that thread.

Ramayana.

The Life Divine, by Sri Aurobindo

Isn't it better to say "this or that is part of brahman" instead of "this or that is brahman"?

>>11308135
Easwaran is considered the best translation of the baghavad gita and upanishads right? Is there an order I should read the texts in? I'm trying to unbrainlet myself

>>11308135
Wut

>>11310957
nigga just read

>>11310957
Easwaran is a New Age hack. Upanishads->Brahma Sutras->Gita

>>11310914
i don't know much about it but isn't it because every part contains the whole and the whole contains every part in opposition to every part is a part of the whole?
So everything is kinda like this fractal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M7dTmvJxwA

>>11308135
I'm aware that there are multiple different schools of metaphysics in Hindu philosophy, but is there a general consensus about the ontological status of the world in relation to God?

>>11310914

No. Because the nature of reality is non-duality. Everything is God in its entirety. In the absolute sense, there is no difference between you and me.

If you want to know more, read The Isha Upanishad and start studying the Samkhya system. Learn about the system of the gunas

>>11309472
DESIGNATED

>>11308135
How do you guys have all this time to read? I’ve been reading consistently for a decade and I only finishined resuming with the Romans. The Hindus are like another decade away, maybe more.

>>11311155
Are you a fucking retard or what?

>>11311142
In this philosophical system is it held that falsehood exists? If everything in its entirety is God then what is not true is also God correct?

>>11311142
>>11311082
Yeah you're right from the advaita viewpoint. I honestly forgot "from infinity comes the infinite" because I don't comprehend it. I don't understand how a tiny minuscule piece is also brahman.

>>11311179

Untrue statements or falsehoods can sometimes serve as a reflection to lead the thinker back to rightiousness, like a mirror. But there is certainly a difference between right and wrong actions and wisdom and ignorance. There is one truth and a whole ethical system that resides in it.

>>11311249
But every falsehood and everything contrary to this ethical system is also God, it seems to be that God is both the Good and the evil. How then do evil and falsehood have any meaning?

>>11308135
>Gets btfo by a guy who sits under a tree

>>11311179
Where do falsehoods come from?
Do you pick them from trees?
Do you dig them up like potatoes?

>>11308135
My eyes flashed over the title. I thought I saw:
>Dindu philosophy thread
I have little to add except that vestiges of prior magic are still interspersed with the later religion. I find it interesting that Brahman boys are a precious commodity for use in some of the spells, making being a member of the higher caste both a blessing and a hazard.

>>11312972
Buddhism is scarcely different than Hinduism, you end up doing the exact same things.
>meditation
>offerings
>cultivate karma

Start with Prabhupada. Learn to read it in sanskrit and read him again and again. Been reading him and nothing else for a year now. Very powerful stuff.

>>11308148
Start with Guenon's 'Intro to Hindu Doctrines' he does a great job of explaining important background information and the exact relationship between the various schools of thought and the nature of things like caste, orthodoxy etc.

After that OP's pic is also good for beginners because it's simplified and easy while still being good and true to the spirit of the original. After that you can start reading more serious texts such as the Puranas and Agamas, the Sruti, the Vedanta commentaries and Vedantic non-commentary texts etc.

>>11310914
Part of Brahman in a conventional sense from our perspective but the Upanishads are pretty clear that from the perspective of ultimate truth there is no difference.

>>11310957
He is good for beginners, if you want to really understand it then read Allahi Mahadevi Sastri's translation of Adi Shankara's commentary on it, but honestly reading Easwaran's first (it's very short) would help prepare you greatly for reading Shankara's commentary (assuming you've read Guenon's intro book first otherwise you will probably be like wtf?)

>>11313027
Prabhupada seems pretty heterodox and is best avoided IMO

>>11311107
Non-dualism and the highly similar school of qualified non-dualism are the main orthodox understandings. The observable world is a manifestation of god but is not the entirety of god. God comprises both the manifest and the unmanifest; with the unmanifest actually being more real than the manifest for among other reasons that it contains infinite possibilities including all those represented by the manifest; although these are themselves considered only conventional distinctions since god itself is one undivided unity, ostensible distinctions such as manifest and unmanifest are not absolute in the sense of breaking its unity. The apparent world is considered illusionary insofar as it's not the complete picture of god (or of the highest reality) but rather more like a secondary modification of it that appears real only from the perspective of manifested beings.

>>11311179
Things that are not true do not really exist but are rather more like ignorant perspectives or mirages in the minds of the ignorant, such as god can appear to those who don't know the truth.

>>11311447
>But every falsehood and everything contrary to this ethical system is also God, it seems to be that God is both the Good and the evil. How then do evil and falsehood have any meaning?

Evil does not exist in any concrete reality on it's own in opposition to god. Nothing exists outside of god and what appears to be evil is merely ignorant manifested beings acting again the cosmic order (dharma) due their ignorance of the true nature of things. When beings see the light of truth and realize the errors of their ways, what appears to be evil naturally dissolves as mere ignorance. Within the infinite ocean of god there are beings that see the truth and others mired in ignorance, together they form an equilibrium within the one undivided whole.