/lit/ - Literature

>>11284712
>they are unironically talking about talent
>they believe in writers block
>they treat the audience as idiots by over-explaining shit

>>11284712
someone who uses your diction and has such awful morphology in their visual cortex they’d ever save that pepe

>author thinks that focusing the story around something "kinda weird" instantly gives it depth or poignancy

>>11284712
>Dystopia

>>11284795
Example

>>11285149
>okay I'm going to be reading a story I wrote about a man who wants to become a fish...
>*waits for class to chuckle*
>haha yeah so

It just reminds me of all the guys I had to deal with in college who thought they were cutting edge geniuses even though their work had little to no actual though put into their themes and said little more than "like, what it means to like, be human" or some easy-out like that

>>11284712
They can’t write a good story that follows a classical plot structure and using simple, unadorned sentences. It has to be about upending traditions and making the reader feel like they’re trudging through mud reading compound complex sentences with archaic words and sentence fragments.

>>11284712
>symbolism

>emulation of standard techniques and tropes in fiction, with no obvious understanding of why or how to implement them

>"prose stylist" relies heavily on alliteration

I don't know why, but using "as" as a preposition in their opening sentence. Eg "As Edward fell from the thirty foot tower, he knew that for once his life was leading to something interesting." Just such a fucking forced attempt at in media res

>>11284712
When they rely heavily on shallow symbolism and just serve as a metaphor for some real life issue, and instead of using their writing to show the nuances of the issue or both sides and make a statement, they just go and make it really fucking surface level and borderline propoganda for their beliefs, it doesnt matter what their belief is, I just think its lazy and really fucking predictable and calls for immiediate dropping.

>>11285186
i agree with this

>dialogue tags contain ANY words other than "said," "asked," "wrote," or something like "whispered" if necessary

writing in that faggoty John Green style

>"""conversational""" prose like "it was a X... no, not an X, more like a Y..."

>>11285342
It just sounds livelier.

>>11285415
That's just having a voice. Although tricky to do in a way that isn't obnoxious.

>>11284712
>>11284740
>>11284795
>>11285137
>>11285326
>>11285386

Yeah guys I know like being edgy and all, but most of these are just beginner mistakes. They become the sign you are talentless only if you keep making them despite your effort to improve. The only way to truly discover if you can't do something is to try and fail repeatedly. That's when you have no talent.

Now, let us focus instead on why so many people on this board have this need for talent to be easily discernible. Don't get me wrong: in some cases it is, but those are limit cases. Those are geniuses and incredibly stupid people. Since most of us are only average, discerning talent is much more difficult. And yet you focus on this question so much. Why?
Well, because it would give you an excuse. If you could discern immediately whether you were good at something or not, you wouldn't have to make efforts. If you are talented, you would do it, if not, you wouldn't. Well, that's not how life works. You need to take the risk doing something you are not talented in and fail. No, you cannot know in advance, with sufficient accuracy, whether you will be good or not at something, you need to try. So stop being so afraid of engaging with life, anon, and try do stuff.
The worst thing that can happen is that you become miserable. But you already are, so there is really nothing to lose.

>>11285463
I think I should have been more specific, that "X, no not X, a Y" kind of self-contradiction trick is specifically what I hate and never want to see again

>>11285342
JG Ballard did this all the time IIRC

>>11285404
What is John Green's style? I know nothing about him except that he exists.

>>11285221
Are you saying simple, unadorned sentences are good or bad?
I'm fairly heavy handed in my prose, so I'd be interested in an example of some good prose styles that are thick but not fatty.

>>11285536
>I'd be interested in an example of some good prose styles that are thick but not fatty.
Thomas Hardy is a good example imho

>>11285186
>>11284795
Kafka was a mistake.

>>11285549
but he was a good writer.

>>11285498
Well, say the narrator is a confused teen? Or a cheeky cunt, who teases the reader? I feel it'd be tolerable as long the writer doesn't do that shit more than twice or so.

>>11285326
While I'll admit that a flowing, lively tempo is more important than the over-stuff engorgement of needless alteration, I think it wise to keep in mind that proper usage can lend itself well to that lyricism many strive for. Just don't overdo it and you're fine.

alliteration but no assonance in sight

Prose that is somehow simultaneously easy to understand and jarring to read. Like every sentence, taken on its own, is a clunky pile of verbal bricks, and yet they all flow smoothly from the one another.
Language that is both needlessly flowery and lacking in poetic imagery.

Prose that is somehow simultaneously easy to understand and jarring to read. Like every sentence, taken on its own, is a clunky pile of verbal bricks, and yet they all flow smoothly from one another.
Language that is both needlessly flowery and lacking in overall consistent poetic imagery.

>>11285554
Kafka was a shitty writer and the reasons people think otherwise is jewish nepotism/forcing 15 year olds to read his shit, and because the creepiest weirdos of those 15 year olds latch onto him in order to lather in their awkwardness and inability to fit in or due to a dislike for their fathers, etc. But Kafka was by no measure a "good" writer. You'll understand a few years from now, after you have that HS diploma in hand, little buddy.

>>11285386
>dialogue tags contain ANY words other than "said,"
Vetoed.

>>11285632
no one thinks this except for white supremacists and normalfags you fuckwit

>>11285632
Do you read German? He's interesting. Even Nabokov said so and he's a better authority than me.

>>11285640
>"muh white supreeeemests"
Surest way to spot a retard.

>>11285632
>Vetoed.
funnily enough Kafka uses interesting dialogue indicators, for example he interrupts the father in The Judgment with "and louder" I believe if that's how it's been translated, as he's yelling at his son. You are a pleb, and I am also anti-Semitic, so there's no nepotism here bud.

>>11285680
Connecting those two things does not make the greater point you seem to think it does.

>I am also anti-Semitic,
Obviously the issue is new to you, which is why you're repeating their bogus language. Need a little more time in the cut, novice.

>>11285660
>i can only cum listening to the Northwest Front podcast

drink bleach

>>11285536
Not necessarily but first I think one needs to master the more Flaubertian “le mot juste” before one can write floridly and do it well. People use complicated sentences with big words to cover up the fact that they don’t know what they’re doing.

>>11285353
So like orwell

HUG3 BLACK COCKSSSS

>>11285711
>>11285640
hey my dude why did u suddenly sperg out about "white supremacists" in this thread. no one was talking about that before so i dont see why youd do that

>talk about jewish problem
>hasbara starts spamming porn

>>11285660
projection
>>11285755
because he said Kafka was successful because of Jewish nepotism. Read the thread.

>>11284740
>a sure-fire sign of a talentless writer?
>they are unironically talking about talent
OP BTFO

>>11285618
>>11285326
I just got irredeemably blown the fuck out

>>11285487
Approximations of certain talents fitting together with a selection of personal and professional goals is a more self-conscious and realistic attitude than all or nothing. Don't just bet without knowing all the games and all the possible moves you can make with what cards you hold. It is an entrepreneurial task, or it's vanity - be industrious.

>>11285763
I should have said that Kafka has been promoted by jews largely *because of* the inherent judaic subversiveness of his mediocre work.
/addendum

>>11285568
fuck off please

>>11284795
>>author thinks that focusing the story around something "kinda normal" instantly gives it depth or poignancy
>immediately gets a friend to edit it down to nothing.
>gets published
>editor deletes most of it
>ywn be minimal enough for my taste

>>11285386
>needing dialogue tags

>>11285221
Fuck you man. I'll be as meandering and baroque as I please.

>>11285856
Enjoy being a bad writer then

>>11285353
Dostoy-polynarritve, Bakkuin, I think. Right up your alley, friend.

>>11285823
but that’s still fucking stupid, most of Kafka’s critical acclaim is from gentiles. you brought it up in the first place for no god damn reason other than to spread your virulent ideological nonsense. you ever noticed that this infects every single thing you talk about man?

>>11284740
>writers block is not a thing
So are writers just creative all of the time

>>11285885
But he'd be good.

>>11285386
Why the hell is that bad

>>11285618

>>11285888
>gentiles
t. jew
Yeah, good goys who promote jews and get amplified as a result. Jews aren't good writers, deal with it and expect people to say it when you try to pretend otherwise.

>>11285937
Because obviously being Jewish has an innate impact on your ability/inability to write.

>>11285943
Writing is a creative endeavor; jews are semites and semites aren't creative. It's pretty simple if you have an entry-level understanding of HBD.

>>11285973
Nice semicolon.

>>11285731
I just happen to get off on grammatical contraptions and poetic somersaults. I think its the enjoyment of an undisciplined mind. However, there is something to be said for a sentence that indicates its own complexity rather than its proposition. Snobbishness is another reason for erudition. Speaking in a privileged code is attractive, but is beginning to tire. Pure academese is much stupider than any simple dialect. Empty wordplay (when linguistic play is inappropriate) only signals the author's insecurity. A bit of overwriting can indicate earnestness with playfulness; the reader appreciates friendly gestures that privilege her as the author's intellectual peer. She enjoys being reminded of her intelligence. Nod too much at your reader's intellect, however, and your head will fall off. You must speak both to the groundlings and to those at eye-level.

"Oh, it offends me to the soul to hear a robustious periwig-pated fellow tear a passion to tatters, to very rags, to split the ears of the groundlings, who for the most part are capable of nothing but inexplicable dumb-shows and noise. I would have such a fellow whipped for o'erdoing Termagant. It out-Herods Herod. Pray you, avoid it."

>>11285973
Semites are creative, they invented the phonetic alphabet and the concept of dedicated trade routes, they invented ancient medicine and sewage systems, city planning and the phalanx. von Neumann and Teller were creative, we have A-bombs because of them.

>>11285742
Good post.

>>11286030
Jews are remarkably uncreative and many of the things they are credited with creating are questionable. Studies show that before 200 years ago as well jews were responsible for literally zero scientific and technological achievements. They are a purely parasitic tribe.

>>11286030
Not true. And most if not all of those things came from Indo-European peoples who were conquered by arabs/semites.

>>11285973
Semites as Jews or Semites as the entire Middle East?

>>11286061
You people are actually worse that WE WUZZERS

>>11286178
Semites and arabs, there is very little difference between them, one is just more cunning.

>>11286187
Why do you think Indo-European languages are still spoken in Iran and the most (formerly) functional states like Syria are run by people who have light-colored European features?

>>11286061
Sumerians weren't Indo-Europeans. Not by language. Babylonians and Persians neither.

>>11285914
This is what you sound like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NctRVC2O3NM

>>11285522
Easy to read first person narratives that rely heavily on badly written dialogue.

>>11286230
The people who built Sumer prior to the arrival of the Sumerians and later the akkadian semites (jews) who destroyed Sumer, were likely Indo-Europeans, as linguistic evidence from Gordon Whitaker has shown. Indo-Europeans lived throughout the present day Middle East and the most functional groups in the region all the way to India have high IE admixture, like the Persians and the Brahmins.

>>11286216
What about non-Arab Middle-Easterners, the native Christian folk?

Because Persians are Indo-European and many Middle-Eastern peoples (such as I) have what you would call European features.

>>11286309
>many Middle-Eastern peoples (such as I) have what you would call European features.
Go back to twitter, Taleb

>>11286309
There is a spectrum between semites and semites with high Indo-European admixture from the past. The former is dysfunctional and destructive, the latter is actually capable of running a proper society, like many Syrians and Persians, which is why jews (semites) see them as a threat and want the US to destroy them. Religion isn't the most important factor, race is, though Christians are obviously going to be more reasonable than muslims.

>>11285326
The best stylists all use it constantly.
>Lincoln
>Nabokov
>Mencken
>Macaulay

>>11286355
Forgot to add Joyce, Jefferson, Cobbett, etc

>>11286335
Good luck tapping into that Aryan creativity, Jayden.

>>11284712
>>characters are visually described the instant they're introduced and hair/eye color is always mentioned

wa-haat? nooo... i want to know if Bella Malfoy has raven hair and blue/green heterochromia, RIGHT NOW. also what's her bra size.

>>11285632
fuck you ive seen you in like 50 threads saying the same dumb thing about kafka "lol he's shit you only like him cause u lil 14 y/old babby doing what u told in highschool he only popular because of muh jews subversive blah blah blah" that isnt true and you have bad taste and your theory about kafka is fucking stupid

>>11286345
Where are the savage Semites you're referring to? Bedouins? Are you referring to some kind of North-South divide such as the kind you see in India?

>>11285632
>>11286446
pick another respected author to have a dumb contrarian opinion about, oh wait you cant because you don't read you just spam the same shitpost so stale i can recognize it from 3 weeks ago

>>11285897
If you're not writing, it's because you're too lazy/self conscious, or just tired. The muse, nor anyone else is going to give you the magical kiss of creativity.

>>11286454
I thought Bedouins were actually an old IE holdover population, but I could be wrong. Most middle eastern populations are savages, semites are generally as a pre-medieval, highly inbred culture; but there are pockets of people with high IE admixture like Syria and Iran. India as you mentioned along the north south divide is also demarcated along such a line between dravidians and higher castes that derive from Indo-Europeans who conquered northern India, bred out, then implemented the caste system to limit further outbreeding. Hindi is an Indo-European language, just like Persian is, because it is the language of the Aryans who conquered those places around 4-5,000 years ago.

>>11285186
One of the versions of Lazarillo de Tormes ends with the guy becoming a fish and fighting for the fish king, which can be seen as sardonic comment on the realism of the first part, and therefore a meta-comment on the nature of the work itself, a sort of bold statement in a clash between two conceptions of literature in which the winner would come to decide the whole fate of the European novel in the centuries to follow.

It is a classic of Spanish literature which is in many ways a great precursor to D. Quijote.

Your criticism is a failure. Men-to-fish metamorphosis is a highly rich and delicate subject.

>>11285487
Good post. You're right. All of /lit/ btfo but in a helpful and insightful way.

>>11286490
Persians are not Semites and Syrians are not Indoeuropeans anon. Also, the Babylonians, Akkadians, Assyrians, Phoenicians are all Semites and they were not Indoeuropean at all, they didn't look Indoeuropean or speak Indoeuropean languages you're making a false distinction. There are pockets of IE blood in Syria and all over the middle east, most Middleeasterners are directly related to the ancient peoples that made the great civilizations of MENA, additionally Persians are not Semitic at all, they don't speak a semitic language and don't look like Semites, they look like brown Aryans
>The people who built Sumer prior to the arrival of the Sumerians and later the akkadian semites (jews) who destroyed Sumer, were likely Indo-Europeans, as linguistic evidence from Gordon Whitaker has shown.
No they weren't and that's not at all the prevailing theory, the Sumerian civilization was autocthonous to the Euphrates-Tigris region.

>>11286285
Sumerian language has nothing to do with IE, its a language isolate, they are most likely a relic Eurasian population akin to the Dravidians

>>11286285
>akkadian semites (jews)
>people who built sumer were IE
This is Ancient Aliens tier historical tomfoolery

>>11286572
You literally said I was wrong then repeated my exact argument. My only quibble is that there is semitic admixture in Iran due to Arab invasions. You're tied in with the below.

>>11286578
If you study Sumer more in depth and read papers like the one I referred to (the Case for Euphratic by Gordon Whitaker), you'll see that the Sumerians weren't the original Sumerians, but a likely mixed group that took over for and likely mixed up with the original inhabitants, who were Indo-Europeans. There are many linguistic traces in Sumerian and several Indo-European tribes like the Guti people who were obviously bitter over something and raided from the nearby hills after the akkadians (likely jews) came in from the northwest and ran the place into the ground in a few short decades.

>>11286613
Not at all, see >>11286641 and do more research. The evidence supports it.

>>11286539
See, you gave an example of "man becomes fish" being used in service of a greater point
I'm talking about "man becomes fish" being used because the author knows it's easy to read unintended meaning into

>>11286641
SUMERIAN IS A LANGUAGE ISOLATE NO ONE IN ETHNOLINGUISTICS OR SOCIOLINGUISTICS THINKS IT IS AN INDOEUROPEAN LANGUAGE THE SUMERIANS DID NOT DEPICT THEMSELVES WITH ARYAN FEATURES THEY WERE EITHER AN AUTOCTHONOUS DEVELOPMENT OR RELATED TO THE DRAVIDIANS AND IRANIC NEOLITHIC POPULATIONS YOU FUCKING FAGGOT. THE ARYANS WERE A NOMADIC PEOPLE THEY NEVER BUILT CIVILIZATIONS

>>11286647
I saw the evidence, it's weak, and your buddy keeps trying to slip in that Akkadians were Jews, which is just an absurd way to turn yet another historical period into Aryans vs Jews.
All these posts just reek of coping.
I'm going to imagine you're European by heritage and are proud of being partly descended from Aryans. My nationality is predominantly r1b too so it's a fun visual to imagine yourself part steppeboi but you're leaning way too much into this shit.
You can deal with IE not literally founding the first civilization on Earth, you'll still have the narrative of being the patriarchal steppe maurauders to fall back on.

>>11286708
The Sumerians were not the original inhabitants. Try to listen and become more informed before you embarrass yourself in all caps. Civilizations often go through many transformations and your perspective is two dimensional in foolishly assuming that the Sumerians were always there and created everything that was there, when even the evidence says otherwise and when Sumerian culture and language is laced with others.

>>11286718
It's not weak at all and you have not read the paper I'm referring to which documents the many Indo-European elements in the Sumerian language. I am also the one not saying definitively, but inferring and hypothesizing, that the Akkadians were jews. They walked like a jew, talked like a jew, and destroyed a civilization like a jew, so there's a pretty good chance they were.

>>11286744
>Destroy civilization like a Jew
Like the Yamna did to Old Europe? Or is that somehow excempt?
You've just outed yourself as using the word Jew as a spook for anything you don't like.
You're using IE masculinity to compensate for your own lacking.
Return to /pol/

>>11286799
They at least brought a comparable or better civilization, whereas jews have none at all. Begone from here until you are better read on the JQ and ancient history.

>>11285711
cringe

>>11286725
the Sumerians are autocthnonous their culture comes from the region you don’t build giant fucking cities from dust overnight it wasn’t aryans. Aryans had low iq’s compared to semites but were much healthier and more ambitious
>>11286871
Akkadians are not Jews they’re just Semites man, they’re like second cousins to Jews the same way Persians are to Greeks. Jews were herding goats and sheep in the hills of Syria and and Armenia when the Sumerians existed

>>11285975

>>11286915
/v/ and /pol/ are newfag boards and filled with redditors, boomers and people from twitter/youtube

>>11286921
Did you even read it, Anon-kun?

>>11286907
That's not how any civilization works or has ever worked. There's a reason why the people known as the Sumerians are not understood in a coherent manner, because they were like ancient mestizos who squatted there and outbred or mixed with or otherwise replaced the other groups before the Akkadians, who again had all the characteristics of jews, came down and did what jews do: centralize everything, send the armies out to the fringes, and destroy it. That's what happened and it's happened many times after, so I'm encouraging yourself and others to do some more research and learn about the jewish question so you can this information into a greater context and actually understand it, instead of regurgitating specs of info you've picked up here and there, which is what you're doing now.

>>11286915
>some /pol/ak got mad enough to make this

>>11286905
This is the most retarded shit strawman I've ever seen, most likely made by some cunt who got here in like 2013 and now thinks he's a super cool oldfag or something, utterly embarrasing.

>>11286966
Replied to the wrong post like a retard. >>11286915

>>11286953
These jewish characteristics are just characteristics of empires.
I'm not the biggest fan of Jews, I know my grandfather hated them, but the Akkadians were not them.

>>11287028
I understand why you think that, but it's wrong, and the empires you're referring to were infested with jews when they went down that route. Pretty deep redpill there, but just as with Sumer and the Akkadians, we saw it with Egypt under jewish rule (think Akhenaten), with Rome who was transferring the bulk of its gold to Jerusalem at one point (sound familiar?), the Byzantine Empire infested with jews, the British empire, and with the American empire today, and only since jews established total control after WWII. The US wasn't like that before, it was isolationist. And just like Rome before Flaccus stepped in, who does the US send billions of our dollars to every year? This is what jews do, and these empires have not organically followed the same route, they only done so after jews entrenched themselves and promoted policies that cause empires to expand past their limits and collapse. This is pretty high level stuff though, I know it's hard to grasp, let alone believe. But it's true.

>>11287076
How is this operation kept both functional and secretive over thousands of years and dozens of thousands of generations?
How does this nefarious group keep in contact?
Why hasn't there ever been a single Jew to step forward and spill the beans?
If it isn't an organized operation, how do they keep such a singular vision, goal, and tactic?
What is the end-goal if the empires collapse as a consequence of their actions?

>>11284712
>>characters are visually described the instant they're introduced and hair/eye color is always mentioned

And this is a "mistake" why? Because you say so?

>>11287170
It's just a part of their nature. Jewish culture tells them that non jews are their slaves and that jews are destined to rule the world, so the mentality is encoded into the way they think, and thus personified into the decisions they make when they are allowed to take power within an established nation. They don't need to talk about it, they already know the world belongs to jews and that everything must be set up and run to serve jews. They problem is they are vagabonds who can't actually build anything on their own, so they just run shit right into the ground.

>>11287076
So blame the Jews then. I promise you that the descendants of the Akkadians hate Jews as much if not more than you.

>>11287243
Jews are the only functional semites anyway. Arabs are retarded and while they also can only destroy shit, like jews, they are far less functional and I find it impossible to believe the Akkadians were anyone other than jews. It's the most logical and obvious answer, unless there was some middle range group we don't know about.

>>11285915
This is a good recommendations list thank you

>>11287229
Murphy's law, my man. There is absolutely no cultural or biological constant that hasn't been subject to an outlier case at one point or another. In all of biology, you will never find a single soul who would confidently say "all X do Y without exception." Exceptions are what has kept evolution moving more billions of years. Same goes for culture, there will always be someone who goes unaffected by any given cultural influence.

"it's in their nature" is bullshit and you should be ashamed of being this stupid. You would have outlier Jews trying to expose the operation if that were the case.

>>11287280
It's not though, and you need to stop viewing jews from a European individualist perspective. Jews are so inbred as to be 5th cousins of one another, and they suffer from all kinds of genetic diseases because of it. When people like me refer to them as a tribal hivemind and an inbred brainwashed cult we aren't being merely hyperbolic.

>>11287253
Do you know that there exist Semitic peoples that aren't Arabs or Jews?

>>11287304
Tell me how exactly you think that reply is a useful response to the main point I brought up

>>11287329
Outlier jews are rare as leprechauns. They are *literally* 5th cousins genetically and their tribal nature is reinforced tenfold by their culture. You are thinking of them as individualists when everything about jews is tribe first. They are not like whites at all.

>>11285487
>The worst thing that can happen is that you become miserable. But you already are, so there is really nothing to lose.

I don't who you are but Thank you for this. Those words at this specific moment mean the world to me.

>>11287304
>>11287347
>"it's in their nature" doesn't cut it as a solid argument
>no but it's REALLY in their nature. from breeding, you see
You're a fucking moron and I hope more people get a chance to see that THIS is the kind of person who constantly posts about jewish conspiracies

>>11287390
>from breeding
Inbreeding. I know nature is a bitch but it ain't that difficult to understand. Try to keep up.

>>11287418
Surely I'm being goofed on

Psychological realism of any sort.
>>11286871
muh civvy lie zay shun

>>11284712
>What instantly comes to mind as a sure-fire sign of a talentless writer?
Realism.

>>11285823
You never answered wether you can read German (you can't)

>instant visual checklists for characters
>shot-for-shot descriptions of action scenes
>episodic occurrence of events in a longform story
>stilted direct-to-dvd dialogue
All of these are traits that amateur writers have inherited from roleplaying and/or fanfiction writing communities. I knew a guy in highschool who made dumb little RP forums and the like mainly about Super Sentai series, I checked them out for a giggle once and even as a pretty open-minded guy his writing was just so fucking cringeworthy I couldn't handle it.

This same fucker would also criticize books for the most inane fucking reasons, like the shit you'd see in a Retard's Guide to Creative Writing Dos and Donts list (durr this book is automatically bad because the protagonist is an imperfect narrator)

>breaking the fourth wall

>>11286915
brilliant

>>11287655
This

>>11288415

>Chaucer
>Dante
>Cervantes
>Sterne
>Joyce
>Beckett
>Bolano
>Borges
>Calvino
>Pynchon

>>11285221
It's fine as long as you pull it off. Problem is, they rarely do.

>>11288654
what did he mean by this

>>11288654
>Lists some of the worst writers of all time

>>11288654
are you implying that every tiny part of their work is flawless

Adjectives.

>>11284795
I have to choose subject matter that's 'a little weird ' so I don't lose interest in whatever I'm writing.

>>11287655
As a former play-by-post roleplayer, I completely understand the first two faults but can you elaborate on the other two?

>>11286251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp8aSitn0YU this is dramatic gold

>adjectives
>Not properly visually describing a character
>Title is a name, important thing related to the story, or some random word or phrase that is not associated with the story
>Run on sentences, short sentences, brick sentences, and just about any sentence that I think is not reasonably lengthened
>Instant information is given to the reader on everything
>Any form of stylized poetry that has been done by someone and is now renowned (Dr. Seuss)
>Prose that just isn't really about anything or is too boring since the writer doesn't know how to write and instead omits actual plot to substitute for his lack of skill; he thinks this is being "deep" (Classic /lit/ style)
>Prose that is about something that has been done excessively (Zombies, forbidden love, survival games)
>Fiction that is not based on Non-Fiction
>Combining an accent into a writing style (Southern writers "writin' lik this", or, "mama dis' gun' be gud'!")
>Prefaces, prologues, and epilogues in 98% of cases
>Author page has a picture of him or an entire fucking essay about his personal life
>Special thanks page (Should just be a line, if at all)
>Excessive use of not commonly used words in our era to seem intelligent or unique
>Lack of vocabulary
>Titled chapters
>No message and ends prematurely to seem deep
I could go on.

>>11286459
burrrrrrnn bro you fucking got him!