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Anyone else struggling with the last part of Revolt Against The Modern World? I get the points Evola makes. But the endless history of ancient traditions makes it hard because I never read too much into this topic.

>> No.11243616

>>11243606
Back to /pol/ brainlet, probably haven't even read march of the titans.

>> No.11243617

meme introduction to evola, read introduction to magic

>> No.11243648

>>11243617
It's just the amount of ancient history that troubles me. I get the rest.

>> No.11243837

Bump

>> No.11243841

>>11243648

Could you expand on this?
Is the problem that you're unfamiliar with the ancient world?

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>>11243606
That's what you get for reading Dorkula

>> No.11243857

>>11243841
Yes, especially with the history of eastern traditions. And the last few chapters really go hard on rambling about ancient history.

>> No.11244040

>>11243606
Evola has his own creative interpretation of history, so a familiarity with history would only help as far as they give you a general idea of events that unfolded.

There are really a few parts in the second division of the book. You should carefully read his chapters on the Golden Age, Silver Age/Mother and Bronze Age/Heroic Cycle to understand how he defines these categories. In all, he is laying out a "morphological determination of six basic types of civilization" and the "fundamental structures to which, generally speaking, we can analytically reduce any mixed form of civilization arising in historical times during the cycle of the Dark Age or Age of Iron. (228)"

Evola is attempting to lay out the archetypes of all civilizations. All civilizations are a mixture of these. Evola's interpretation of history is a hermeneutic of particular events as not the result of a particular environment, access to goods or organization, which would be Marxist-materialist, but as the determination of fundamental forces and ideas (in the Platonic sense) that transcend history. His interpretation of the cycles of the West are only to provide examples of the Golden Age and times when the West approached it. However, he is never calling for a return to those forms, but as a recognition in those forms as something that points to a higher vision of life and discipline.

He also applies those categories to modernity: this is what gives force to his critique of the West in the end chapters. For example, he sees in the modern cult of activity a Dionysism (325), which is a "deviated and emasculated masculine spirituality" or mindset that generates "passive and promiscuous forms of ecstasis[.] (228)"

>> No.11244230

>>11244040
Do you know any sites which summarize his views like this?

>> No.11244245

>>11244230
don't get so hung up on history, understand his metaphysics and the rest will flow

http://www.juliusevola.net/ariyabuddhism/ariyaawaken.html

>> No.11244252

>>11243617
PSA: the second volume of Introduction to Magic is currently being translated and is due for release in February of next year.
>https://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Magic-II-Initiatic-Wisdom/dp/1620557177/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1527789334&sr=8-1&keywords=introduction+to+magic+volume+2&dpID=5133yjcHePL&preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch

>> No.11244261

>>11244230
I don't, sorry. It took me a few readings of Revolt to get the whole picture. Whether from translation or just the subject matter, I had a lot of fantastic ideas about what he was really talking about. It just takes some time getting adapted to.

>>11244245
Maybe, but his interpretation of history is really only expounded in Revolt.