/lit/ - Literature

>>11223117
He's entirely correct. It's completely embarrassing to see people even on /lit/ not able to understand Hemingway, but que sera, sera

>>11223117
This guy comes across like an edgy teenager who just discovered reading. Can't stand him. Also, Hemingway was fine and had a few good books before it became obvious he couldn't develop any further.

>>11223398
All of this.

>>11223117
these criticisms aren't even true though. Maybe among extreme SJWs, but Hemingway is still one of the most popular writers.

i can't explain it, >>11223398 is basically right. it's the same in his book (though i didn't finish it). but he's the funniest fucking guy in person.

>>11223117
>>11223325
>>11223398
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>>11223723
Norm is literally Plebbit: The Comic

>>11223736
Yep. He seems like a cool and nice guy but he's kind of a dope.

>>11223736
What a constructive comment.

>>11223117
Hemingway is good. He’s not the greatest, but he’s good. Wish he would come back in style around here, he has four great novels, two great memoir/nonfiction books, and a load of great short stories.

>>11223736
imagine replying to the entire thread then calling other people reddit

>>11224889
I'm imagining it and it's glorious.

>>11223736
Go back there if you are so familiar with it.

Inb4 that one faggot comes into this thread to shitpost about how nobody on /lit/ understands the subtext in The Sun Also Rises anymore.

This guy is a Trump voter FUCK OFF

>>11225221
He's not even American and voted Trudeau.

>>11223736
That is going fucking way too low, WAY too low, Norm doesn't deserve that. If you guys want to be exposed to the pure unfunny that is Reddit stand up comedians, look up a subreddit called "Standupshots" Pic related is currently the top post.

If Norm was Reddit the comic he would be making unfunny jokes about Trump day in and day out.

More examples of the comedy genius that Reddit is. This is the 2nd post on standupshots today I found over 1k upvotes.

Colin Quinn is the best stand-up. Prove me wrong

>>11225285
but you go on Reddit too..

>>11225300
Yeah obviously dipshit how else could I have gotten the pictures? I just went on there. What a useless comment.

>>11223754
That’s the character he’s portraying you idiot

More leddit comedy. This is worth over 6000 upvotes on Reddit so it's really funny. I wonder how lobotomized you have to be to actually laugh at this shit.

>>11225320
compared to this norm's moth joke is anna karenin

>>11225316
I'm not talking about his unsubtle character. I'm talking about the pseud underneath who cultivates facts but doesn't generate his own ideas and impresses retards like you because he talks about classic books.

>>11225327
I'm not intelligent enough to generate an original idea myself so I find him relatable. Literally everything I say is just me parroting the opinions of people smarter than myself.

>>11225225
>voted Trudeau.
Disgusting

>>11225336
He promised to legalize weed tho

>>11225327
>doesn’t generate his own ideas
>successfully performed stand up for over 20 years
>wrote for several award winning tv shows
>wrote his own book
No one is calling him the second coming of Nietzsche, but to say he never came up with anything himself is just plain wrong.

>>11225338
Norm's not satasfied with his xanax?

>>11225352
*satisfied

>>11225207
I mean people do criticize it a lot by saying nothing happens. It’s a good book.

>>11225344
Anyone can come up with content. Some will like it and some won't. The issue was about his intelligence. So I was referring to his propensity to wax philosophic. In that mode he is just parroting people (as with his frequent usage of Faulkner's "fact/truth" quote without citing him). Or just appealing to people he finds smart (like when he said on a talk show that he started trying to believe in God because the smartest people like Tolstoy did). Stuff like that.

>>11225359
I mean, it’s not like you’ve had a conversation with him. Every time you ever see him do an appearance on a chat show or an interview, he’s still portraying his character. The Tolstoy line is obviously a wry joke.

>>11225370
This is one of the weakest arguments I've ever seen, about anything. The Tolstoy thing wasn't a "line". And you think his character is simultaneously a homespun dummy and a pseud? Jesus, you're fucking dumb as shit.

>>11225376
>The Tolstoy thing wasn't a "line".
You think he was serious when he said that? Christ, you are a retard

>>11225384
Considering he LARPs as Tolstoy and slobbers on his dick all the time, no, I don't think one of the many examples of him trying to be more like the man is a joke you brain dead freak.

>>11225376
Yes, that is exactly his character. You called it “unsubtle” but I’m actually starting to think you don’t understand it. His most famous bit on Conan is about him portraying himself as a dopey buffoon and then instead of telling a cartoonish joke he instead tells a dark, nihilistic joke that sounds like something from 19th century Russian literature. That’s his gimmick.

But you think he’s a pseudo intellectual because....???? He didn’t further expound on his views on Dostoevsky’s writing on the Tonight Show with Conan O’Brien? No shit. Seek counselling, you might be on the spectrum.

>it's

>>11225393
I said nothing about Conan O'brien and I don't care if he expands his views or not. My whole point has been that he has no views to expand. But he still plays in the intellectual game and to do so he just parrots other people. Norm fans are such sophists, I swear.

>>11223736
me no like man he must be redditer me mad man more success than me he must use reddit me smart me superior

>>11225400
He literally has a reddit account. And not just a celeb one to do AMA's. His fan subreddit dug up a secret personal account from like 10 years ago.

>>11225411
Damn. Wojak poster BTFO.

>>11225411
How would you know this unless you browse reddit?

>>11225397
>I don't care if he expands his views or not.
>My whole point has been that he has no views to expand.
So essentially you do care about his views, otherwise you wouldn’t be so mad about it.

Your argument has gone like this:
>Norm is a dope
That’s a character he’s portraying
>nah the REAL norm is a dumb pseud, he hasn’t presented any ideas, only parroted
His comedic work aside, he’s written a book with some very well written passages, producing his own work and ideas
>but he plays in the intellectual game!!!
By saying he likes Hemingway and Tolstoy? When has he ever come out and claimed he’s the foremost voice on anything? Only an actual dope would do that, which he is not

>>11225421
I never claimed not to. The point of my post was to refute the idea that Norm is not a redditor.

>>11225421
I never claimed not to. The point of my post was to refute the idea that Norm is not a redditor.

>>11225423
>>11225426
You're literally a redditor who is obsessed with reddit. Go back. Do you really have nothing to say about Norm besides the fact that he used reddit?

>>11225423
>>11225426
he browses reddit

dont listen to anything this retard says

>>11225422
I called him a dope. That's an abstraction. I proceeded to clarify the reasoning behind why he fits that description for me. That's not moving the goal posts or anything. This latest response from you is pitiful semantics. It's just going in circles. He likes to talk big ideas. His fanbase is impressed by this. They are just recitations. That's my point. Just because you don't personally care about that paradigm and prefer to simply enjoy his comedy doesn't refute the relatively uncontriversal point I'm making. What's funny is that you're such a combative Norm dick rider but I'm clearly more familiar with the man.

>>11225442
>>11225444
Pathetic shills! I only ironically browse there to mock those Reddit idiots. I even repost some of their idiotic cringe on r/cringe so I'm not a "real" Redditor.

>>11225449
Shut up. I'm the guy who knew Norm had a reddit account. And yes, I go there like once or twice a month.

>>11225411
Reddit was actually good 10 years ago and people weren't meming REE GO BACK. Back then the site actually had freedom of speech and the normans hadn't invaded yet and were still on Digg.

>>11225458
>and people weren't meming REE GO BACK
/lit/ wasn't around 10 years ago.

>>11225462
Oh anon, you actually think /lit/ is composed of better people who make for better exchanges. That's adorable. Reddit is worse in other aspects mainly stemming from the fact that people view it as a micro-society and seek social rewards, rather than engage in honest conversation (not that 4chan's low impulse control autism is any better), but there are subreddits where specialized knowledge, competence and interest far exceeds that of any 4chan board. So yes, better people.

>>11225445
You can’t even tell the difference between someone being earnest and someone telling a joke on a talk show for entertainment, and we’re supposed to believe your suppositions that this man is a dope. Your whole argument is based on your perception of him rather than any actual quotations of his work, and the fact that you genuinely can’t seperate his character from the man means you are ill equipped to act as a judge in this sort of thing.

The fact you immediately started jumping on me as a “Norm dickrider” when I simply pointed out you were wrong highlights just how insecure you are. I must OBVIOUSLY be a crazy defender of him instead of you just saying something that was clearly bullshit because you don’t like his fans.

>>11225475
>Oh anon, you actually think /lit/ is composed of better people who make for better exchanges.
Stopped reading there since I didn't make that claim or any claim. I was just correcting an error in the post I was replying to. You (or whoever) said:
>Reddit was actually good 10 years ago and people weren't meming REE GO BACK.
That sounds like you were saying reddit was good 10 years ago and that people here weren't saying to go back since it wasn't annoying. /lit/ didn't exist 10 years ago. I don't care if you think reddit os good and 4chan is bad or whatever.

>>11225482
You have no proof that's a joke. Such a weak argument. You genuinely seem insane.

>>11225487
That wasn't me. And that anon was most likely referring to the general 4chan trope of reee go back, rather than /lit/ specifically.

>>11225487
>>11225498
There was another site people used to say to go back to in the day but if I mention it I get spam filtered.