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Was Nick Land, dare I say, right about literally everything he ever said?

>> No.11204823

Was OP, dare I say, uninspired and vacuous in literally everything he wrote?

>> No.11204833

>>11204790
>>11204823
yes

>> No.11204834

i like how expressive that artwork is

>> No.11204838
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yep

>> No.11204847

>>11204838
all truth

>> No.11204859

>>11204838
>tfw no autoreplicating plexoweapon

>> No.11204862
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11204862

I'm not certain about the robot child-rearing thing to be honest.

>> No.11204867

>>11204838
Ha ha oh wow that is worse than house of leaves jesus christ

>> No.11204870

>>11204838
Have we commissioned Sadler yet? I need some Core Concept videos to explain this part.

>> No.11204881

>>11204867
>house of leaves is his benchmark for avant-garde literature
>>>/reddit/

>> No.11204884

>>11204862
Is he talking full on harlow pit of deapair shit or just school
Also how is a robot teaching kids not also potential indoctrination

>> No.11204894

>>11204881
>benchmark for avant-garde literature
What when did I ever say that
Learn to read brainlet

Also
>any of this typography memery
>avant-garde

>> No.11204902
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11204902

He's right you know.

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11204911

Seriously though, school is bad.

>> No.11204914

>>11204902
>>11204911
how can one man be so absolutely based?

>> No.11204915

>>11204911
Lol what an edgelord

>> No.11204921

>>11204911
Aw, poor lil Nicky was bullied

>> No.11204938

>>11204902
>>11204911
>>11204921
but that's not Nick is it?

>> No.11204942

>>11204790
Where can I find a copy of this? I want it just for the meme points.

>> No.11204949

>>11204911
>>11204902
he's right yknow

>> No.11204951

>>11204942
just get the PDF
some faggot just posted the link after they reprinted a batch of it last week and it sold out in a day and ended up on Amazon for 100 bucks by nigger scalpers

>> No.11204999

>>11204790
Can one of you fuckers give me some crib notes on what this fucker is all about or do I have to actually read this thing?

>> No.11205010

>>11204999
best place to start
https://www.urbanomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Fanged-Noumena-Introduction.pdf

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>>11204999
1 stop atomizing
2 optimize for intelligence
3 you don't clean room, room cleans you

http://exindiluvium.blogspot.ca/2018/02/exposition-on-landian-accelerationism.html

>> No.11205047

>>11205010
i know right? what kind of fag reads books LMAO

>> No.11205065

>>11204838
This is what happens when you do waaaay too much ecstasy, and try and write a book. Essentially, Land is the Timothy Leary of his generation.

>> No.11205070

>>11205065
>ecstasy
amphetamines, thank you very much.

>> No.11205120

>>11205038
>stop atomizing

Fragmentation is required for intelligence optimization. The atoms are subjected to selection criteria.

>> No.11205138

>>11205120
fair enough. you know what i mean tho. stop atomizing and thinking it's other than that

>> No.11205170

>>11205138

I think I understand.
You have in mind the injection of order perhaps?

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>>11204838
Wtf, a physical copy instead of an ebook

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>>11205243
come at me bro

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>>11205170
i just mean what i think land says is a kind of protestantism run amok and against which very little can stand. it's like resisting the Mandate of Heaven for the west. it's natural, sure, and part of our ongoing psychological and cognitive development. but ultimately what we produce in that process - technology - has to take the wheel. the more we fight against it, the weirder things get.

>A ‘city of the future’ is Gibsonian in precisely this sense. That is nothing new, nor could it be. It has always leaked back, in coincidence with modernity. Tomorrow is a social magnet, as has been known for some considerable time, at first merely reflectively, but ever increasingly as a techno-responsive object.

>Civilization is an accelerating process, not a steady state. As its name suggests, it is channeled primarily through cities (which explode). The incandescent intensity of a hypergrowth-dominated urban future consumes our historical horizon, and an exceptionally impressive perspective on this developing spectacle is to be found in 21st century Shanghai – a fact Hollywood has no real choice but to relay.

again, if things were different - although it's difficult to say how this could be so, given the historical trajectory of things - his brand of fatalism might not be so attractive. but to me it's like medieval scholastics coming out of the monasteries and exploring nature. they expected to find God there and wound up beginning the scientific revolution, in a way. i feel like we are in a similar place today v/capitalism and libertarian psychology. functional states optimized for this process become habitable and successful. those that don't wind up falling back on increasingly outmoded forms of political theatre or counterrevolutionary movements that are nevertheless bound up with the same economic growth and patterns everyone relies on.

order is a good look. but it's contingent on not playing the sorts of recursive language games that only fuck things up and force leaders to make promises in the end that they can't keep, while subjects develop ever-more arcane ways of pretending they can somehow stand aloof from what is perhaps only another interesting liminal phase in a world-historical process.

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11205309

Is it worth it?

>> No.11205357

>>11205291
A-are those your fanged noumena notes?

>> No.11205364

>>11205309
scalping niggers are gross

>> No.11205372

>>11205309
Jesus. Just go to libgen.io, search "fanged noumena," click link, open a mirror link, and download. Shouldn't take more than two minutes.

>> No.11205374

>>11205305

Thank you for elaborating.
I agree with much of what you say.

>> No.11205390

>>11205357
more like his pretentious faggot notes. god this shit is so dumb. take your epic cyber xeno machinic libidinal discussion to twitter

>> No.11205414

>>11205357
>>11205390
Those are Nick Land's notes, they are at the back of Fanged Noumena.

>> No.11205490

i'm supposed to be reading fanged noumena but i'm just sitting here jerking off

>> No.11206371

>>11204902
I agree with everything said here. The kids are getting dumber, the kids are getting MEANER and the learning schedule is getting harder. Parents increasingly are getting fed up with education and teachers cannot control the braindead zombies or aggressive behaviour. Everything is fucked and Land tells it how it is.

>> No.11206447

>>11206371
Yeah. It's really messed up that kids are telling other kids these days that they should kill themselves, or that they look like a school shooter, or so on.
The sort of "cultural overton window" of acceptable behavior has shifted dramatically, and irrevocably, since even like the 70s and 80s, during which mass homophobia and things like hazing to get into school clubs and stuff were still widespread. It's pretty fucked up that we've only gotten more hostile and unpleasant.
Side note: I wonder how much this site itself was indirectly responsible for this kind of behavior? Or other web 1.0 practices, like making fun of lolcows on Something Awful, people conducting intersite raiding campaigns, the relative prevalence of doxing and hacking individual targets?

>> No.11206461

Why is it every time someone posts this psychotic clown all of you start frantically masturbating? It's self-published gibberish written by a lunatic.

>> No.11206468

>>11206461
Because he is saying what most on 4chan are thinking.

>> No.11206475
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>>11206461
because the glasses got stuck to our faces and now they can't come off

>> No.11206483

>>11206447
This site is the underbelly and emblem of all that is sordid and degenerate in modern society.

>> No.11206570

>>11206461
It’s not self published lol

>> No.11206591

>>11206461
>g-gibberish!!
>l-lunatic!!

just be comfy until the matrix crashes goy

>> No.11206598

>>11206371
>>11206447
yeah is it just me or are kids just fucking awful to each other today

and 4chan didn't contribute to this, the internet did, 4chan was just where it (had to) happen. face-to-face interactions with other human beings builds empathy and solidarity, now there's none of that

>> No.11206603

>>11206461
lol at you

>> No.11206607

>>11206591

Or until you end up in the psych ward friend :D

>> No.11206609

>>11204838
>>11204870
He's talking about how viruses work in general, and then starts speaking about what qualities a virus would look for in a population if it wanted to infect the most people, and gives examples of such cities. Then he talks about a type of virus that infects people through the language they use to communicate. It works by boiling down everything to a binary yes/no. Theoretically his mumbo-jumbo writing is an attempt to get around the word-virus we possess in our minds. In a certain sense, his writing is also a word-virus. Note that viruses are self-replicating and typically inject themselves into the underlying data that makes your system work. Nick Land introduces a variety of repetitive and atypical grammatical peculiarities in order to "infect" you with his own ideas.

That or it's LSD.

>> No.11206619

>>11206607
>people who threaten our spoonfed, mass-produced worldviews just have to be crazy lunatic bad men!!!

literally the thought processes of a child

>> No.11206628

>>11204902
>schools resemble factories!!!

Wow literally no one has said this before, not even in the 19th and 20th century. Literally no one. Truly a brain genius of the highest order.

>> No.11206656

>>11206619

Is your caps lock broken retard?

>> No.11206661

>>11206619
Land is a madman but he’s right
>>11206628
that’s not the implication brainlet

>> No.11206668

>>11206656
>le proper grammar and spelling man

I think reddit's more up your alley

>> No.11206691

>>11206609
I independently came to a sort of viral model of language after thinking about the implications of deleuzian materialism for meaning and communication; it's expected that someone like land, who's greatly influenced by deleuze, would hold such a position

>> No.11206800

>postmodern cyberpunk charles murray

holy fucking cringe

>> No.11206843

reminder that walter benjamin did the whole "human extinction as accessible as techno dancefloor" thing like a century before land.

>mankind['s] ... self alienation has reached such a degree that it can experience its own destruction as an aesthetic pleasure of the first order.

land is fraud and he hides that fact behind kinetic language

>> No.11206847

>>11206461
imagine disliking the most prolific philosopher of the 21st century

>> No.11206862
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>>11206843
is it not possible that benjamin and land could be talking about the same process?

>> No.11206883

>>11204790
Well, his recipe for cooking lobsters sure isn't very good

>> No.11206935

>>11206800
yeah. this CHUD philosopher is le cringe. um, iq isnt real? fucking racist failson?? (btw nick land saw this & rescinded everything hes every put to paper)

>> No.11207153

>>11205309
I literally just bought a copy for 30$ plus shipping like two weeks ago. It comes back in stock all the time. If you don't want to wait i'll sell it to you for 350$

>> No.11207169

>>11206862
benjamin wasn't a fascist, so no

>> No.11207176

>>11206935
>chapofags living in your head rent free

pathetic

>> No.11207189

>>11204838
C0DA, a story by Michael Kirkbride

>> No.11207219

>>11205309
The first edition maybe

>> No.11207222

>>11204838
Another man tragically goes insane under the pressures of our current situation, and the clueless outcasts will call it genius, so as to affirm their cool outsider appearance.

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>>11207222

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>>11207169
except that land isn't a fascist either. you can be anti-left without being alt-right. and remember that for political figures this guy stands above all the rest for him.

authoritarian, yes. fascist, no.

>> No.11207749

I just finished the introduction and im very intimidated to start the text

>> No.11207988

>>11207749
If you made it through the introduction you are doing well. The intro is pleb filter in-itself.

>> No.11208002

>>11207749
Very much this: >>11207988

The intro is pretty brutal and I've been reading philosophy for years.

>> No.11208022

>>11207749

Bear in mind that most of the selected writings in Fanged Noumena were put together by Ray Brassier who is a massive faggot with a hard-on for language. He (probably) in purpose picked up the most gruesome bits for introduction, it only gets "better" from there.

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>>11207749
>>11207988
>>11208002
>>11208022
okay good, 'cause that shit was pretty painful. guess i'll start reading in in a little bit here, after managing to drag myself away from the comforts of the 'chan

>> No.11208103

>>11204838
This is your brain on amphetamines.

>> No.11208116

>>11204838
It's sad that people think this is genius.

>> No.11208138

>>11208103
>>11208116
What is it about low IQ morons and wanting to seem smart? If you don't get it, you don't get it. Get over it.

>> No.11208142

>>11208138
based

>> No.11208145

>>11204838
Okay seriously this is what you guys have been memeing? This is fucking schizo.

>> No.11208147

>>11208138
if he can't say what he means in a clear fashion he doesn't understand himself

>> No.11208273

>>11207222
Kek it’s a gimmick. He’s writing a story about viruses and then he writes as if a virus is infecting him. Brainlet

>> No.11208280

What's up with all the Land threads recently?

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>>11208273
It saddens me that you think people didn't get this and call them brainlets.

>>11208280
New York Times made article about Intellectual Dark Web: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/08/opinion/intellectual-dark-web.html

>> No.11208292

>>11204862
>Child care would be better with a robot

Wait, i thought he was a right-accelerationist ?

>> No.11208340

>>11208292
he's obviously u/acc

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>>11208147

>> No.11208488

>>11208147
The style is the substance, sweetie.

>> No.11208489

>>11208116
Not really. This isn’t one of his philosophical works. He writes all kinds of stuff. This one is just a little gimmicky.

>> No.11210023

>>11204838
Ive had similar thoughts. this scares the hell out of me. Had to stop reading

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>>11204790
did Land invent anything new that I won't already get from any random Alex Jones video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NVsyMalJXo

>> No.11210057

>>11206607
Die normie die

>> No.11210168

He stopped writing when he realized Ted Kaczinski was even more right.

>> No.11210482

>>11210168
>what is the Dark Enlightenment
>what is Xenosystems
>what is his old blogs
>what is that upcoming Bitcoin book

>> No.11210486

>>11210044
but jones is peak irony though, nick is dead serious

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>tfw u realize some funky ass worm bitch is getting her(?) ass eaten(?) right there on the cover

>> No.11211460

>>11210482

Don't pretend that Land hasn't gone into hiding lately.

>> No.11211521

>>11211460
He still tweets frequently, though. If you're implying that his lack of physical appearance is indicative of "hiding", then his entire life would have been him doing so

>> No.11213017

>>11204823
First post, best post.

>> No.11213023

>>11204823
>>11213017
he did not write very much tbqh

>> No.11213258

>>11204938
you can easily figure that out for yourself