/lit/ - Literature

>>11192674
holy... i want more

>>11192674
SCIENCE! xD

>>11192674
Science is in fact not FUCKING awesome
>t. Salaried researcher

>>11192674
I like this.

>>11192674
metaphysics should be:
>like being in a dark room and trying to explain the black cat that you can't see but exists with your reference point
otherwise. I fucking LOVE science!

cute cat and epic facts, absolute gold

Science is more finding the cat and saying "The data highly suggests the likelihood of a cat."

>>11192674
>food analogy

Wrong.
Philosophy is asking why you are in a black room and why you would look for a black cat.

>>11192674
>oatmeal

>>11192737
How old is she

>>11192743
19

But philsophy is a science.

>>11192761
Or rather, science is a (meta)technology developed within the framework of philosophy to solve a very specific set of problems.

>>11192674

>>11192736
this

>>11192674
/lit/ is like being in a dark room and not looking for a black cat but playing around by smearing the cat's feces around the floor with your hands.

>>11192674
I have tried to think of some framework in which this analogy holds, but I simply cannot. Because of this, let me break down exactly why this is wrong using my strongest idea, that the cat is some grand meaning or truth of the universe.

Philosophy would more accurately be described as the discussion around the cat, as well as any effort collectively to find it. There would be a school trying to describe it's minute features, one looking, listening, and smelling for it, one trying to figure new ways of looking, another discussing if it's finding is even important, and yet another taking that further and asking whether or not it exists and if it's sounds and smells are not but an illusion of a people hoping so hard to find it.

Metaphysics would specifically be the school actively looking for it.

Theology would be a branch of metaphysics that claims any relation of the cat to God, or that God is actively involved in either the search or hiding of the cat.

Science is one method devised that, in specific instances, allows people to narrow in on the cats location, never wholly but infinitely close.

After this all then, all fourteen-year-olds not understanding any of the schools, seeing the scientists at least say with some certainty in that area the cat likely is, they dismiss the others, and worship science. They post cringey things like "science is like magic but real" and other useless bs.

>Science
Deducing that since there's cats hair strewn about and you occasionally here a small bell chime, there's probably a cat in the room.

>All the others
Asking why you're in the room in the first place, asking whether chasing the cat is a good idea, speculating it may not be a cat but another similar animal, figuring out how to engage with the cat if you do come across it, wondering if there's perhaps other more interesting things in the room than a cat, etc.

>>11192674
>a fucking flashlight
Why can't atheists for the life of them refrain from using profanities in their arguments? All it does is make them look like uncultured buffoons deprived of wit and class.

What if the black cat is so black it absorbs all light?

Science, fuck yeah!

The thing that annoys me the most about this stuff, is that I am almost completely certain that this meme was made by someone who is not in STEM, and probably doesn't even know basic high school calculus, and was the type of person to say "why are we learning this" when studying trig.

>>11192736
damn...

>>>/b/

>>11192674
FTW!!

>>11192674

well... none of this makes any sense

wow.... so this is the power of STEm..

>>11192743
Old enough to make my penis hard.

>>11192674

Philosophy - Being in a dark room and throwing open the shades on the window to get a better look at the room.

Metaphysics - Wondering about the origin and meaning of the shades and the light and the objects in the room.

Theology - Ascribing intent to the existence of shades, light, and objects and extrapolating meaning about their hidden Creator.

Science - Systemitizing a method for empirical study of the shades, the light, and the objects in the room to try to reach unbiased, solid conclusions.

FUCKING "Science" - Sitting in a dark room with the shades drawn, in mindless superiority at others' ponderings, while illuminated only by the light of your own computer screen.

>nobody ITT gets it

The "dark room" is Plato's cave you fucking retards

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>>11192736
>there's only practical philosophy

Try reading a book maybe?

>>11193074
Because they are uncultured buffoons deprived of wit and class.

>>11193074
>Why do uncultured buffoons deprived of wit and class look like uncultured buffoons deprived of wit and class

>>11192743
>she

>>11193186
lmao

>>11192743
She was born in 1929, so...

>>11192674
Science is more like: looking for a runaway (and perhaps fictitious) cat, with every piece of evidence of its existence (glimpses perhaps) combined into methods and models (which generally make liberal use of mathematics/logic), to then predict the cats behaviour, or perhaps its probable position or tendencies.

>>11192679
>philosophy is like being in a dark room and looking for a black cat
>metaphysics is like being in a dark room and looking for a black cat that is in adjacent room that is locked
>theology is metaphysics, you fucking plebs
>science is like being in a dark room and not giving a fuck about that black cat that you can accidentally tread upon

>>11193305
>she will NEVER be your gf

>>11192761
>>11192773
yikes

>>11193330
Blame /r9k/ for that
I think she's completely gone from the Internet

>>11192737
>>11193305
>>11193330
Do you have an archive? The mega I used got taken down :(

>>11193074
They know beneath their consciousness that whatever they have to say is too mundane, uninteresting, and shallow to survive without being masked by the shock value of cursing.

>>11192674
And politics is like finding a black cat in the room and beating the shit out of it for being a nigger.

>>11193074
Came here to say this. Using profanity is admitting your ideas alone aren't worthy, so you have to spice them up somehow.

>>11193074
tfw spent like five minutes thinking you meant a flashlight was profane and he should have used a candle or a sort of lantern that an old timey nightwatch officer might use

i am dumb as heck

>>11193394
Feminism is being in a dark room and screaming rape till the cat decides to show itself

>>11192674
Looks like a hamster desu.

>>11193340
>>11193330
>>11193305
>>11192737
well she never would have been your gf in any circumstance bc she's a lesbo and while unbelievably cute, after getting a chance to talk to her she's quite a big humorless pseude unless you're giving her $$$ (the iron&wine cover she did was my request)

also her dumb pseude stranger things lookin ass friend is the worst

>>11192743
she was underage when they became obsessed

>>11192684

I'mma science the SHIT outta this XXXXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>11193074

While I agree wholeheartedly, you sort of went full fedora with

>uncultured buffoons deprived of wit and class.

>>11193394
Politics is importing black cats by the boatload because statistics say black cats have a zero net drain on the economy.

What the fuck how many r*ddit fags are in this thread right now? Fucking sage

>>11193588
>he doesn't know what a reddit containment thread is

>>11193588
see >>11193656

should make more tho i think this is what the petusun thread is for too

>>11192674
wow, in this moment I feel truly enlightened, by mine own intelligence

>>11193374
Youre using consciousness wrong

>>11193074
I no likey bad word :/

>>11193074
*tips cross*

Science FTW!

>>11193077
"insert VSauce music"

the cat is both alive and dead at the same time

>>11192674
>Descartes
is like being in a dark room and looking for a black cat and realizing that there's no way to know if you're actually in a dark room looking for a black cat
>Stirner
is like being in a dark room and looking for a black cat but the black cat is a spook
>Anselm
is like being in a dark room and looking for a black cat and knowing the cat is there because you can imagine it.

All the credible philosophies are science you morons.

Other fags in this thread got it, but science gives us the best methods of finding the black cat whereas philosophy asks whether the black cat is worth finding. And if we find the black cat, what then?

I fucking hate people who think of science as an end and not a means.

>>11192674
upvote!!!1!

>>11193977

>>11192674
why even try to discredit the one using the other

>>11193718
Just let me hate scientism.

>>11192674
>ask three abstract disciplines and science to complete a practical task
>SCIENCE SUCCEEDED HAHAH PHILOSOPHY AND RELIGION BTFO XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>11192674
>that 32 year old boomer who still believes in inductive reasoning

>>11193957
Karl Pilkington what happened???

>>11195919
>subtle blacked

>>11192674

>>11192674
science is being in a dark room with a light bulb in the middle. You are in the room with a bunch of other people, and all of you are standing in the dark, just at the edge of the circle of light. You agree that the area of light on the floor is all that exists, and that the ground you stand on and the ground behind you is an illusion that only brainlets and godfags believe in.

>>11195919
wait, what's wrong with inductive reasoning? I thought most sciencefags had a hard on for muh empiricism "need (((proof)))" deductive reasoning?

>>11193020
Best comment

>>11195992
nice strawman

>>11192737
>brown eyes
in the trash she goes

>>11193186

>>11196056
brown eyes, pale skin, dark hair is the GOAT combo you faggot

>>11192674
GET SCIENCED

>>11195940
this lmao

>>11196180
>All the previous generations who made scientific discoveries should be ignored using the framework they developed for scientific inquiry
What? Does the artist actually think the scientific method popped into existence in the 1980s and everyone before that was a fundamentalist baptist?

>>11196027
As opposed to the balanced OP pic

>>11192674
>Science is like being in a dark room and looking for a black cat using a fucking flashlight.
So that's why we've fully figured out quantum mechanics, artificial intelligence, the nature of consciousness.

>>11193186
Do you understand what Plato's cave is about?

>>11192674
My IQ increased by 10 points after reading this. Thanks OP!

>>11192674
HIGGS BOSON, FLUID SEXUALITY, QUANTUM COMPUTING, INTERSECTIONALITY, LARGE HADRON COLLIDERS, WHITE FRAGILITY, GPU COMPUTING, INTERLOCKING MATRICES OF OPPRESSION

>>11193656
>he still thinks containment threads work and don't simply exacerbate the problem.

>>11192714
nice

>>11192674
>Philosophers literally invented mathematics and geometry through reason alone

>Scientists can't even agree on human biodiversity, something that is literally self-evident

lmao

>>11196858
BASED

>>11193037
p good

Reminder

>>11197856
please cut off dawkins

>>11197867
why

>>11197856
Dawkins' quote there is actually semi-alright. Remove that and add his tweet about continental philosophy.

onions

>>11193177
Well done

>>11193177

>>11197856
oh come one
did you just include a black dude just to make it diverse?

>>11192674
So this is an philosophy hate thread?
nice

>>11193177

>>11192714
Or pushing your opinions on mainstream TV of the lack of a cat as scientific viewpoint, despite all the evidence (scratch marks on the face).

>>11198216
no idiot because he's I LIKE IT BIG DUDE SCIENCE LMAO popular science man

Theology is a cat brushing up against your leg in a dark room and you trying to discern if it was really a cat(and what color etc the cat is) or the feeling of a cat was just in your mind.

>>11193316
this unironically

>nobody ITT gets it

the "black cat" is the 27th proposition of Euclid you fucking retards

>>11196015
it's irony/bait or retardation, Karl Popper explicitly makes clear in one of his essays that true empirical science must not and should not have anything to do with inductive reasoning which ultimately deals with absolute either/or truths, instead Popper suggests thinking of truths as if on a scale measured according to their 'truth content' (Wahrheitsgehalt).

>>11196180

>There is nothing of value from previous generations of life experience

PEAK S O Y B O Y

>>11195919
While the s oy meme is useful to describe this sort of infantilized, ignorant adult, the relation between onions and hormonal changes has been debunked, right?
We should start using "cuck" again

>>11192674
>w-whoa
Yeah, I was 15 once too. It was a shameful time, but not shameful enough that I made something that cringeworthy.

>>11198786

I found cuck to be childish. Although s o y is pretty childish too.

https://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/onions-whats-the-big-deal

>>11198786
all three are embarrassing and are used to describe anyone who doesn't subscribe to some vague ideal of masculinity, being on 4chan since the fascination with with onions it's been little different from reading a women's magazine except it's 'I'm man, hear me roar'.

>>11198854
forgot to say, this goes for cuck as well, except much more politically connotated

>>11192674
The shirtbird idiotic 12 year old who made this should definitely read Feyerabend.