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>the absolute state

>> No.11150056

I was such a fedora tipper I read this in highschool lmao

>> No.11150073

>>11150056
This is strangely impressive to me

>> No.11150074

The cover for this is really great

>> No.11150282
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>>11150074
Here's another cover from one of his books.

>> No.11150645

>>11150074
Always reminds me of 4x games like civilization.

>> No.11150676

Most boring book I've read since starting to read for fun. Ok until he starts talking about the organizational structure of the Church for absolutely no reason.

>> No.11150687

>>11150676
agreed. the first two sections are interesting but the second half is beyond dull. his biblical reading i would go further and call uninteresting and simplistic.

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>>11150676
>he actually read the second half

>> No.11151010

>>11149874
I enjoyed your joke OP

>> No.11151635

>>11150676
>for absolutely no reason
What is the Reformation?

>> No.11151661

>>11150056
same with The Prince
funnily enough one of the ~3 oral exams I had in those 6 years in Literature class was about Machiavelli so I guess it was worth

>> No.11151697

>>11151635
Finally

>> No.11152956

bump

>> No.11152976
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11152976

I would like to read this but have little education about political philosophy besides what was briefly covered in a few high school law courses. Is there anything I need to know/read before starting it?

>> No.11153008

>>11149874
>Hurr durr sign this contract and stop hurling feces
6/10 at best

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>>11152976
This is one of the few philosophy books that can be read almost entirely on its own. Hobbes models it after a geometrical proof — proposition, definition, conclusion, QED — and doesn't refer to many outside thinkers (in the crucial parts). Knowing about his historical moment will help, as will familiarity with the Bible, but other than that you can jump in without knowing much.

>> No.11153439

>>11151661
How did you do orally?

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>>11150676
>for absolutely no reason

I cannot believe the state of knowledge in the West

>> No.11154293

>>11150056
and you probably understood almost none of it since you had no context

>> No.11154301

Why is British philosophy so trash, lads?

>> No.11154521

>>11154293
I knew about the civil war and reformation and some Greeks which was enough

>> No.11155410

>>11153705
The sad thing is that as >>11154521 and >>11153010 pointed out you don't really need that much side knowledge to understand Leviathan because Hobbes makes his points very clear. All you need is a functioning brain.

>Hobbes for 3/4 of the book: The Church shouldn't have secular power REEE
>edgy anon 2345678: lol what's with the random Bible talk!? XDXDXD

>> No.11155413

>>11152976
If you have an adequate knowledge of european history, you'll do fine.

>> No.11155850

>>11154301
Brit political philosophy is actually pretty good.