/lit/ - Literature

>>11139817
I remember an anon said he developed a fat fetish from reading the Rabbit Run series by John Updike

Tbh there are a lot of footfags in 19th century literature and i wonder why. Also a lot in film it seems.

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>>11139817
Older cute men being dominated by younger but also adult men.
Very little, all homosexual authors seem to be pedos.

>>11139860
Repressed straight men probably unintentionally write better homoerotic literature

What are some good femdom books not to hard tho.

Spanking. Some.

I heard there was a spanking scene in the original version of Sologub's the petty demon but it has been excised from the english translations. Anyone know if this is true? Also how normie is this fetish? I see references to it in pop culture often but I feel like most people aren't that into it.

Bondage, torture, etc. - quite a decent amount. by and large the easiest to find and most explicit, in both low and high literature, fiction and non-fiction. off the top of my head: de sade, mishima, mirbeau, foucault, even kafka and musil.

The human foot - eroticised fairly often, mostly not in a fetishistic way which is fine. still an under-rated part of human anatomy imo, despite being object of the "most common fetish".

Tickling - not too uncommonly referenced; mostly the reader is informed of its occurence in generally non-erotic, non-sensual ways. a prolonged description with the erotically charged physical and psychological phenomena inherent to the act are a lot rarer and all the more titillating.

>>11139860
Mishima's Forbidden Colours? I haven't read it so I might be totally off-course but from what I know about it, might be close to what you're looking for.

>>11139817
The one where I lovingly come inside of a young woman who loves me and wants to bear my child, all while maintaining intensely focused eye contact

Let me know if there’s anything out there

>>11139877
Spanking while having sex is as normie as it gets, over the knees not so much.

>>11139877
All women love to be spanked. There was no spanking scene in the translation of Petty Demon that i read.

>>11139817
birth
very, very little.

>>11139817
Transformation
I'd say it has some fairly good representation even though it's rarely presented in a sexual manner.

>>11139817
I don't have a fetish.

>>11139817
Bestiality
Only in the classics, really. I seem to recall a harlequine romance about velociraptors, but I didn't read it.

>>11139851
Footfaggotry is one of the most common and socially acceptable fetishes

>>11139817
Mommy kink
The interpretation of Dreams, so I guess a lot (because Freud influenced everything that came after him, even literature)
I even write short erotic fiction of how a young man in his college years falls in love with his hot 30s MILF and she falls madly for him

Foot fetish is disgusting by the way, although boots and high heels are really fucking sexy. I'd like one day to cum on a girls heels and then lick the cum off

>>11139884
Faggot

>>11139923
Yeah feet are disgusting but eating your own cum is a-ok

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>>11140039
Umm, sweeties, let's not kinkshame, okay?

tfw i can only get off to 2D

I like armpit hair and bush.
I doubt anyone has ever written about it.

>>11139884
Virgin?

>>11140125
Mishima wrote about armpit hair in Confessions of a Mask :^)

to be precise it's not sexually motivated, it just that I have a thing for torture.
I basically keep torturing my protagonist, which then I'm lacking the vision on how to properly expand the story.
>still have problem to finish almost all of my shorts.

>>11139817
Tfw you have to wait for the 18th century for it to be written and the 20th century for it to be published
We're oppressed

>>11140039
>Yeah feet are disgusting but eating your own cum is a-ok
That's a nice point anon.

>>11140162
I unironically think this book should have been burned. Seriously, I read some parts of it while I was at a really bad stage in regards my sexuality and it made me sick to my stomach and disturbed to the brink. I don't know why I tortured myself like that. This book brings absolutely nothing of value and is just utter rubbish, should have been burned.

>>11140175
>the purposiveness of art should be to make me feel good, and only ever that
Lol.

>>11140175
oooh, you're definitely going to be an item in my rape sodomy whipping CUM BDSM tickle torture branding iron HELLchamber ... the suffering of a tripfag, music to my ears~

I still stand to my point. This book is absolutely garbage. It's shit, absolutely awful. It made me feel so bad and I think it literally did some mental damage to me. There are some things that are simply better neither seen, nor heard, nor thought of, specially when it doesn't teach us anything. There's a reason why PTSD survivors which they'd never seen what they had seen, they might have learned or seen something distinctive about human nature, but it only brought damage and there's just so much a human can handle before he breaks. Seriously, burn this book.

>>11140141
Sure, but he was a fag though. I like it on women.

>>11140187
It taught you that you don't like those things though. How can you say it has no value? Didn't it teach you to come to this longwinded response? Hasn't it put your ethics into focus more? You cannot have light without the dark.

>>11140175
dumb and gay

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>>11140175
Burning Sade and repressing his books just makes it easier to cum to tbqh. If everyone just let it out into the open, I'd find it not as kinky.

-armpit
-crossdressing

>>11140195
>It taught you that you don't like those things though.
I already knew I didn't like them, but since I have a morbid curiosity for things I shouldn't see, it just made me think and brood over awful things that shouldn't exist in this World.

>How can you say it has no value?
It doesn't make anything constructive or tell anything about human nature that philosophers and other writers couldn't have said with much more ease. It just made me have nightmares instead of any good whatsoever.

>>11140193
Hence the spoiler. I never read more than the first chapter of The Wind-up Bird Chronicle, but I couldn't stop thinking about glistening wet pubic hair for a couple of days. In Les onze mille verges Appolinaire likens a tuft of pubic hair to a wet paintbrush. Both books suck, though.

Women crossdressing as men and being treated as such.

Quite some representation, not much sexual.

-Max (A romance novel from the early 1900’s)
-The Tenor and the Boy(The writing is hilariously bad and purple, but I take what I can get)

>>11139877
light spanking during sex out of passion is probably the most normal kink there is. Spanking on its own or as foreplay like putting a girl over your knee is still pretty normal but less so. Rough spanking like with a paddle or whip that leaves marks is much less normal.

>>11140215
Murakami writes like a 15 year old boy sometimes. It's nostalgic when you're as old as I am, but sometimes it's also really cringe.

>>11140212
It's different to the morbid curiosity you have when browsing gore. I understand some people are very sensitive, and perhaps it's a part of my personality to like disgusting things, but I never take on board seriously a smutty book.

Don't you have a degree of distance when reading?

Shouldn't morals be tested with art, however vulgar?

Anywho, Sade was trying to explore the limits of freedom, and plenty of people thing he's satirising Rousseau.

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>>11140187
>>11140212
Autism or 12 years old?

>>11140215
asian pubic hair > anglo pubic hair

BDSM - not much in gay literature unfortunately :(

>>11140245
want me to tie you up and throat you, faggot?

>>11140212
wew lad

>>11140187
>this from the guy who wants to rape his own mother

>>11140193

Liking body hair is not a fetish. It's completely normal. It's the people who have been trained by a degenerate pornography industry to prefer shaved women who are the freaks.

Liking women who look like women and not epicene pre-pubescents is not a fetish.

>>11140259
This. I love Riley Reid's bush though, so I'm still a degenerate pornfag.

>>11140243

It disgusts me to share a planet with you.

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>>11140245
try mishima if you havent already and the confusion of young torless... i know its a beautiful philosophical bildungsroman and all that but it also has shota bdsm

>>11140259
>Liking body hair is not a fetish. It's completely normal.

Well fetishes are rarely abnormal. They are a sign of a healthy sexuality usually.

Either way, women keeping their body hair is a rare occurrence these days, and it can't simply be because of porn.

>>11140297
porn used to have heaps of bush, of course it isn't just porn, but they interact with trends

>>11140257
>The guy who wants to rape his own mother
I never said anything about rape, just making sweet love.

>>11140175
i've never read the book but I tried watching the movie as a teenager and I couldn't finish. It disturbed me more than Pink Flamingos. Probably had more to do with the fucked up masks and puppets tho

no novels about boylovers that I know of so none, but i could be wrong there might be some out there

>>11140308

daddy fetish, there's A Single Man I guess, but most gay lit seems to be written by pedos (Mann), working class fetishists (Forster) or hardcore degenerates (Genet, Delany).

>>11140307
Some things are just better not seen or known. You can bring out real psychological damage by watching these things, specially if you have an obsessive personality filled with intrusive thoughts like me. Speaking of which, I'm gonna leave this thread so I think no more of this thrash. Good riddance.

>>11140308
>no novels about boylovers that I know of so none
Really anon? Death in Venice (Mann) and The Immoralist (Gide) are the two most prominent that I can think of.

>>11140322
Oh, OCD. I can relate. Exposure is good though. It's painful, but it's much better in the long run. When you run away and avoid things, it validates the fear and repulsion that your mind associates with it. Obviously you don't (or shouldn't) read through large tracts of disturbing content and torture yourself, but you shouldn't flee from its happenstance.

>>11139817
>he hasn't read Maupassant
Get out.

A pure white ethnostate.
None

Short hair on women/haircutting

Hemingway kind of leans into this.

>>11140297
Explain my fetish for dudes dressed as anime girls then

>>11140330
>Obviously you don't (or shouldn't) read through large tracts of disturbing content and torture yourself, but you shouldn't flee from its happenstance.
Yeah, so basically, what people like us should do is to not see or read about all of this fucking useless awful shit that just brings painful and awful thoughts to our minds, but still be completely aware and knowing of the awful horrors of the World, but those which actually do happen in real life. Something like reading about WW2 and the like in order to know the reality of the World, but not going out of your way to reading a book in detail about people eating shit as a sexual practice, as the intrusive thoughts will just fuck you and your sexuality up for absolutely no reason, since you aren't learning anything about the World.

>>11139817
Binding, specifically Japanese rope binding and not done to me but to a woman, for me/by me. I've never read a book about it but it's in plenty of manga and Japanese art.

>>11140381
How is being 13 years old

>>11139923
I've done that with my girl
First time I didn't tell her i was going to do it, i just kind of grabbed her foot while we were playing around and wanked myself off quickly onto it and sucked it all off
She was pretty surprised but didn't really say anything about it
Since them she's kind of offered her feet up to me a few times so I could do it again but I don't want to do it every time so it's an occasional treat

>>11140390
Just filter tripfags and all is well

>>11140381
Not everyone has intrusive thoughts like that or are that easily swayed anon. That's fine for you but I don't think its fair to say it applies to everyone.

>>11139817
Sex that results in a mystical experience. Or sex as mystical experience.
Sex written in an innocent, pure way.

>>11140381
I used to get fucked over a lot by my OCD and I still do, but I'm a lot better now. A lot less emotional pain. Obviously our obsessions and the things that disturb us are a little different, since I enjoy Sade's writing (lol)... I know how you feel, and I know what it's like to resent things that cause that kind of suffering in you. But there's stuff that would have made me go pale and get really disturbed about just 3 or 4 years ago that now I can appreciate and even enjoy.

>>11140402
Fuck that's gross, you swine.

>>11139817
Feet, never read anything that would be considered fetishism, but classical authors to tend to talk about girl feet, I'm sure some found them sexually appealing.

>>11140467
There are nice mentions of feet by the likes of Hugo and Pushkin.
Read Tanizaki for explicit fetishism. But be warned, his books driven by desire always end in catastrophe.

Loli
I heard there was a book by some Russian about it but the name escapes me.

>Having a traditional nuclear family

A lot, actually.

>>11139851
It's pretty common. I have no idea why, feet are dirty, wrinkly and bony.

>>11140467
feet is totally normal even scientifically. Your feet have tons of nerve endings and the part of your brain that deals with the sensations of the feet is right next to the part of your brain that deals with sensations of the genitals.

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>>11140510
Yeah, I think they are anatomically and visually interesting, along with being connected with vulnerability. The movement and feel of feet is unique.

>>11140497
there's got to be a few books about sex with ghosts

>>11140510
That kind explanation is actually kind of stupid. It would explain liking your feet being touched, but not being aroused by the sight of feet

>>11140497
You're probably being sarcastic but I know what you mean. Having a traditional wife that is completely subservient to you is hnnnng

>>11140497
get the fuck out

>>11139873
Venus in Furs is femdom but not super bad

>>11139817
femdom
none that i know of besides the obvious venus in furs

My fetish is cuddling with someone i love, i don't care about cumming just human closeness.

Pregnancy
I've never seen good literature about it

>>11139817
>Your fetish?
humiliation, cuckolding, etc.
>How much representation does it have in literature?
how do you think i developed said fetish?

>>11140639
Read the Gambler?

>>11139817
Two people falling in love during childhood and staying in love throughout their entire life without ever experiencing any turmoil, melodrama, or weakening of the flame they share. Pretty unrealistic, can't think of any examples.

>>11140640
No. should i?

>>11140621
It's shit, absolutely awful. It made me feel so bad and I think it literally did some mental damage to me. There are some things that are simply better neither seen, nor heard, nor thought of, specially when it doesn't teach us anything. There's a reason why PTSD survivors which they'd never seen what they had seen, they might have learned or seen something distinctive about human nature, but it only brought damage and there's just so much a human can handle before he breaks.

>>11140645
Probably because that would be a boring story anon. Could be interesting if done right though.

>>11140647
It's good and funny. It's not that sexual, but the pro is a glutton for punishment, I felt pain at reading some of it; that's what made me remember it.

>>11140593
books for this feel?

>>11139817
>Fat. None.
Look harder.

>>11140608
>>11140616
Venus in Furs is irritating because it's cuck shit. Not just cuckold shit, but the point is specifically that if you are into being dominated by women, you naturally and inevitably become a cuckold, and she naturally and inevitably does not want anything to do with you.

I can't tell whether I'm lucky or unlucky that I'm into femdom without being into cuck shit, being fucked in the ass by a fake dick, or dressed up like a woman. I just like bossy assertive women. But it's almost impossible to find that in literature, let alone in real life. Women are cartoonishly submissive in both. They openly admit they have no ambitions, and that they would rather be gutter-fucked by Napoleon and left to bleed out than to be a Napoleon and conquer the world. No woman wants to do anything, ever, aside from locate the nearest Napoleon and do the Wayne's World 'I'm not worthy!' gesture until one of them perishes.

I don't understand why I'd have a fetish that doesn't exist even in fiction. Men show a diversity of fetishes and sexual types. There are all kinds and variations of submissive and dominant men, even aggressive submissives, decadent dandyish dominants, etc. But women are uniformly weak feckless cowards who want to be degraded and have their subjective autonomy annihilated, yet I have to be a straight man who is into the logical and metaphysical inverse of that. It makes no sense at all. It really makes me wonder whether femdom fetishism is some kind of evolved subset of the population, a hormonal epigenetic cul-de-sac or neurological or psychological fixation that activates under certain conditions in childhood, to furnish a useful segment of the population that can function as cuckold servitors for all the normal men and normally submissive women. Maybe cuckolding and its natural extension into homo shit are just the natural entelechy of femdom, and I'm a stunted and incomplete version of that entelechy. Maybe the essence thrumming somewhere in my heart is that I should leap full monty into financial domination and cuckolding and accept that my lineage will never continue, that I am supposed to tend the borders of the chimp camp while all the alpha chimps rape women and the women thank them for it. Maybe I would be happier as a full blown omega-level cuck. All the signs certainly point in this direction, given that femdom fetishist men are overwhelmingly crazed delusional retards who have no chance of getting laid and thinking calling random women 'princess' in Youtube comments is going to solicit their affections. I can see the theory being true. Femdom is only the larval stage of cuckoldry and gay shit, and of acceptance that one is not fit for breeding and only exists to furnish the tribe with resources. But none of this actually helps me, because I am not into cuckolding, or pegging, or feminization. I am only doomed to a long life of disappointing girlfriends by having to phone it in when they ask me to choke them.

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>>11140652
That's about my feeling. I was content with never contacting another human being again sex had always made me feel so dirty. Then i met someone and i know mentally i am too fucked by this point in my life to have a real relationship but i just want to hold her and be held just for a bit even. The first time she hugged me i recoiled because i couldn't stand the contact now that's all i can think about. Her warm light touch and being wrapped in her scent. It makes me want to die a little more every day.

>>11140681
>Venus in Furs is irritating because it's cuck shit. Not just cuckold shit, but the point is specifically that if you are into being dominated by women, you naturally and inevitably become a cuckold, and she naturally and inevitably does not want anything to do with you.
who fucking cares i just want to get whipped

>>11140681
You're only half right.
Neither Wanda, nor Kossow or Dragomira are "cartoonishly submissive". Wanda's and Severin's eventual separation is definitely a catastrophe from the point of view of a sub and results in Severin renouncing his persuasion. There is a theme in literature consisting of a man crafting an ideal and being overpowered by it or finding it unattainable. You could make a point for it in Tanizaki's Tattoo or Naomi, Venus in Furs of course, or even Lolita.

>>11139817
Fetishes are by definition perversions.
They are classically conditioned through fantasy or pornography or erotica involving them. Soon enough they serve as sexual stimuli.
Any literature that has the representation of a fetish, or any needless sexuality to it, can hardly be called literature at all and should be cast aside and burned.

>>11140681
Please stop stealing from my diary anon.

>>11140339
>The woman, who belonged to the courtesan class, was celebrated for an embonpoint unusual for her age, which had earned for her the sobriquet of "Boule de Suif" (Tallow Ball). Short and round, fat as a pig, with puffy fingers constricted at the joints, looking like rows of short sausages; with a shiny, tightly-stretched skin and an enormous bust filling out the bodice of her dress, she was yet attractive and much sought after, owing to her fresh and pleasing appearance. Her face was like a crimson apple, a peony-bud just bursting into bloom; she had two magnificent dark eyes, fringed with thick, heavy lashes, which cast a shadow into their depths; her mouth was small, ripe, kissable, and was furnished with the tiniest of white teeth.

Nice.

>>11140681
I'm in the same boat as you anon. I don't think I like being submissive, I just like being useful and wanted.

>>11140700
I'm a fag but sometimes I wish I could transform into an attractive woman. Everything would be so much easier. All the cute boys ranging from the timid to the lively would roll over and expose their bellies to me at the click of my fingers. All sorts of men would let me tease and torment them however they want.

>>11140678
Spoonfeed me.

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>>11140724
>Boule de Suif
more like Sacs de Sable

WTF I love pee now?!

>>11140497
this

>>11140754
but it smells not nice

>>11141080
Quit drinking your calories anon

>>11139817

I have fetishes that don't even have names.

>>11139903
Freak

Hot, sweaty, dirty, sex fetish
I wanna have sex in the dirt on a hot summer day after running a mile and lick the sweat off the girls body
I'm so lonely, any books for this feel?

>>11141692
No

>>11141692
I think there may have been a scene or two like that in >>11140754

I don't really have a fetish.
I guess lipstick lesbians are enticing? Probably my biggest special kink, if any, is hair. Gibs hair.

>>11140175
>Rousseau BTFO
Commie detector alert

What you need man?

Having to be dominate to get a submissive desire fulfilled is less worse than becoming submissive about your dominating fetish, allowing it to become safe and practice, equally beneficial. I just want to subjugate the entire universe to my will and be beholden to no other agency than my own bros. Help this dude find a book that's like a Napoleon biography and the first part of Lolita put together.

Books for sad lizard kings?