/lit/ - Literature

>>11017960 is supposed to be between >>11029101 and >>11007617

recommend me a good space opera

Why does the rest of /lit/ hate us

>>11043576
Thanks for the reply
I’ll put the book you recommended on my list, but yeah at the moment I’m looking for sci-fi the aesthetics are a lot of what drives my interest when I read for atmosphere
Actually started Dune for the first time, I find the writing to be needlessly dense and the characters are walking tropes and one dimensional but the overall world is engaging to a degree, was surprised by how Shakespearian some of the dilalogue is, some writers just don’t have a sense of subtlety.
But I assume the cliche is after all what make such fiction enjoyable..

>>11043807
Diaspora ;^)

sixth for waifus are more important than plot

Gimme books where teenage sluts take puppy knots.

>>11043848
lit hates everyone that doesn't have the exact same taste in literature as themselves.
So everyone hates everyone.

what are you reading, /sffgtv/?

>>11043940
Forever War

sanderfag a hack

>>11043940
The Shadow of the Torturer, I hope it picks up.

>>11043807
Hyperion

>>11043940
A book that has really shitty writing with no emotion in it that's not even worth mentioning atm. Maybe it picks up halfway through, who knows.

>>11043940
about to start Architect of Aeons. Hoping there's another beefy time-skip.

Is there a good scifi book for loneliness in space? I'm willing to be blackpilled here lads

>>11043940
the dispossessed

>>11043940
>tv/?
If you post any cunnies or wasps in this thread you will be purged.

Are the rest of the space odyssey books worth it or is the first the only good one?

>>11044093
chek out Gateway its something like that

>>11043751
Just finished Death's End and HOLY SHIT YOU STUPID BITCH

I do not understand this chart, what is New Millennium? Everytime I look it up I just get this time. What means it?

>>11044229
2000+

>>11044254
Is there any literary difference in way of thinking? Or just them time?

Are the LoGH books worth reading?

>>11043940
Just started The Tyrant's Law (The Dagger and the Coin #3). The series seems good enough so far even though the plot seems a little simple at times. Geder has been an interesting character, that crisp moment in book one was a nice surprise.

>>11044093
Minla's Flowers i guess.

>>11044266
pretty complicated questions, there's a change in underlying themes to environmental concerns and mass surveillance etc, and I've also found (broadly) that modern sci-fi especially is a lot more depressing.

>>11044341
>Geder has been an interesting character
man, you are gonna cringe hard in this next book.

Does anyone else wish they could create a fantasy story so renowned that a century from now people were drawing on it as literary canon the way they do Alice In Wonderland or Dracula?

I tried doing that with my novel but I realize now there's no chance in hell it's going to accomplish that

>>11044370
You don't "try" to do that. You just do something that people really like and run with it.
Literally the cringiest thing you can do is market your book as "the new Alice in Wonderland" or "the Dracula of the modern age".

>>11044381
I only "tried" to write a good story while making sure it didn't have any of the elements that would lock it to modern context (e.g. pop culture references)

>>11043751

GUISE I have just started with PKD - I have read Ubik, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? and The Man in the High Castle. What do I read next?

>>11044093
Cordwainer Smith

>>11044156
They're good. 3001 is obviously phoned in but not terrible.

>>11044190
I know right. I'm certain that both her character and the way she gets put into that position are criticisms of the West, by the way.

>>11044282
No, watch the anime

>>11044370
Many are called, few are chosen.

Webnovels are novels too

>>11044632
I've read that she got criticized just as much in China.

I'm also saying this as a Chinese person.

Is the Witcher saga worthwhile? The Last Wish was surprisingly good, Sword of Destiny left me cold. I did notice that whether it's the translation or Sapkowski himself the writing can be very repetitive.

Is anyone else filled with dread the moment it's time to pick up the pen and try to write something?

who the fk uses a pen in the current year

>>11044706
I've lost a lot of interest in the later books

I wrote a science fiction story once that had a scene of an earthquake shattering a planet into pieces. When my brother heard of it, he commented that that wasn't how earthquakes work as they are literally a result of a planet's crust trying to make itself more stable. My response was expanding the scene with one sentence that commented how the eathquake was pecuilar.

>>11044706
The Last Wish and Sword of Destiny are the best of them (that have been published so far), I'm just waiting patiently for Season of Storms to be released.

>>11044768
You sound like a shit writer

>>11044768
I'm going to be a tad more tactful than others on this board: that isn't good writing. When you attemt to write ANYTHING, research is essential. You want to write a planet-killing catastrophe, you research mass extinctions and what could possibly cause them in the future. You want to use geological mechanics? Research the heck out of them. Detail and accuracy are your friend.

I'm just hoping that this was some project from elementary school or junior high, although the last one makes me cringe a great deal.

>>11044502

>>11044997
>Excagenesis
every time, fucking kraut

>>11043751
What fantasy writers do /sffg/ consider to be polarizing?

>>11043940
Last book of Malazan

>>11045087
George R. R. Martin and maybe Joe Abercrombie as well.

>>11045087
Rothfuss is the main one, in recent times

>>11043940
About to start unsouled by wil wight.

>Protagonist responds to mild "racism" with murder

Contemporary literature is a cancer

Do you hate YA fantasy? Personally I love it. I never get tired of the coming of age stories with simple kids becoming strong leaders

>>11043672
>>11040399
LOGH? And I said I liked the rest of the book, just that it came to a horrifyingly ill-thought out conclusion
>>11044033
no, Book of Amber is shit from page one.

>>11045093
on the last one because you like it enough to read the whole thing or is it just out of obligation at this point?

>>11045264
YA is deeply oversaturated with romance novels to the point of being basically unreadable

That said, I'm writing a YA novel so maybe I should just shut the fuck up

>>11043751
Thank god I found this thread and the previous one. I was the anon bitching over here >>>/pol/169067569 about how Hollywood only ever wants to reboot and remake old shit. It would be nice if someone could make a movie or TV series out of some of these.

>>11043751
Thank god I found this thread and the previous one. I was the anon bitching over here >>>/pol/169067025 about how Hollywood only ever seems to want to reboot and remake old shit. It would be nice if someone could make a movie or TV series out of some of these!

>>11045264
I know of no coming of age YA, all the YA fantasy I see is cliched romances written by women for women.

>>11045416
>linking to /pol/ when that post won't even be there an hour later
Please fuck off from this site.

>>11045264
I fucking hate this post so fucking much because I was about to reply "YA is nothing but romances and harry potter clones" but then realized that the book I spent a year writing involves a kid who doesn't realize they could use magic becoming apprenticed to a wizard

now I want to blow my fucking brains out

Someone recommended Drew Hayes' NPCs a couple of threads ago. Just finished reading it. Took me about a day and a half, so considering he recommended it for light reading, I guess that makes it a good recommendation.

I enjoyed it overall. Though the whole "challenging gender and racial stereotypes" thing was annoying as fuck. I mean, OK, fuck it, I can take a typical damsel in distress turning into a ripped barbarian who wasn't really a damsel in distress, but one who actually enjoyed being kidnapped all the time, and who used what she learned from her captors to eventually become a brawler. I mean, I played Dragon's Crown, I don't mind it that much. But when you make a half-orc become the party's wizard, that's just fucking retarded.

I guess I enjoyed it otherwise, specially because I've been playing D&D for almost 2 decades, but again, that was fucking annoying. Though I guess it does kinda make sense. After all, the author seems like the typical person who exclusively lives off a diet of s*y and semen.

But I'll keep on reading the series. I already have Split the Party open.

>>11045427
What? I thought YA fantasy was like swords and magic and dragons not 50 shades of grey

>>11045480
Yea but I guess thats just the sorta shit you gotta accept for modern books
rampant explicit liberal faggotry

>>11043940
Powder Mage

>>11043848
Cause people ITT actually enjoy what they read and tend not to care about the opinions of literary snobs. This causes anxiety in /lit/ posters for whom reading is mainly about getting the approval of the literary community, it makes them doubt their whole value system. To cope with this they channel the anxiety into spite toward genre fans, because it's easier to disregard contrary examples to your assumptions if you hold the people giving those examples in contempt. Hence the ritualistic debasement of genre fans on this board, and hence the constant, desperate affirmations of their own importance and superiority.

This is the mind of a person for whom reading is a means to an end.

>>11045481
>I thought YA fantasy was like swords and magic and dragons
That's just heroic fantasy. It sounds like you've never actually read a YA book and are just borrowing the term based on what you think it means.

>>11045460
>the book I spent a year writing involves a kid who doesn't realize they could use magic becoming apprenticed to a wizard
Sounds more like a 'Sword and Sorcery' story than a YA one.

>>11045506
you might just be our lord and savior.

>>11045541
eh that's a fairly common YA premise, but it depends on the execution

>>11045435
>>Please fuck off from this site.
No.

>>11044652
Oh, no doubt. She's terrible, that's why her existence is a criticism of what she represents (the contemporary West, imo).

>>11045492
No shit.

First page after the epilogue of Split the Party.

if kassad traveled through time and fought the shrike in multiple eras during the first book (and dies) how the hell is there an old kassad on the tree of life in the last book? did they ever mention kassad staying in the future at some point?

>>11045636
How does she represent the west? If anything, there seemed to be more of a Masculinity / Feminity critique going on, and that doesn't have and East/West overtone (at least the author did not frame it that way). Add to that the fact that she's juxtaposed against Wade, who's American.

>>11045739
This isn't from a published novel is it? This reads like a first draft shared in an undergraduate creative writing course.

ok /lit/: starship troopers, caves of steel, or greek myths by robert graves?

>>11045812
It's from Split the Party, the sequel to Drew Hayes' NPCs from the Spells, S*y and Sorcery series.

>>11045827
It's some kind of fan fiction right?

>>11045541
>>11045559

the difference in mine (which I suppose is probably a cliche by now) is that while the MC is a witch, most of her victories come from science, like escaping a fairy world through pathfinding algorithms or reverse-engineering a potion with a home-made spectroscope, lye and tinfoil

>>11045788
>Masculinity/femininity

No doubt, and who are the huge purveyors of Feminism in the world right now? Not China.

Cheng is a softheaded, childless woman who's democratically elected to a position for which she lacks any objective qualification.

>>11045847
Again, it sounds like you're pushing your own politics into your interpretation of the story.

Wade is American and Cheng Xin's contemporary, and she's the masculine hard-ass that she's not.

>>11045840
Nope. Published by Thunder Pear, and by a prolific author. Seriously.

>>11043930
My diary

>>11045875
*he's

>>11044229
>tfw I loathed Story of Your Life.

Of course they made a fucking movie as well.

>>11044266
I read every book in that row except the one by stross.
>Chiang
Overrated trash
>Blindsight
Honestly needed more space vampires to be better
>Quantum thief
Felt like YA drivel and I could force myself to finish the series
>The golden age
One of the best sci fi series I've ever read. Also one of the most unique premises I've come across where in the far future we basically live in a anarco capitalist society

>>11045877
This is just shameful. It also gives me inspiration to write my own fantasy since even dreck like that can make it.

>>11045844
Yeah that's not really pushing any envelopes.

>>11045102
>Joe Abercrombie
Does anyone actually like this plebs books? I read half a king and the entire premise is just a cheap derivative of mark lawrence. When I got to the "reveal" that the plot takes place in a medieval world that's actually the future after nuclear holocaust I was actually considering writing mark a email telling him he should sue the fuck out of this thief

Read Palmer Eldritch and A Scanner Darkly. Didn't care much for Palmer Eldritch but A Scanner Darkly was great. What dick should I read next?

>>11043940
Death's End from The Remembrance Trilogy (AKA The Three Body Problem)

>>11045935
You could always just stop reading his books and start taking LSD instead

>>11045924
yep, absolute fucking waste of my efforts. It's not bad I don't think, but it's more forgettable fodder

>>11043940

>>11045966
>Sarah
I just assume every women sci-fi and fantasy writer is diversity hire trash forced down our throats until proven otherwise. Ancillary justice ruined any faith I had in women not being hacks

>>11045087
Patrick Rothfuss is the only real polarizing figure in fantasy right now. People either love him or hate him usually within the first couple pages of Name of the Wind.

>>11045102
Neither of those are polarizing except in /lit/ where contrarians abound.

>>11045921
There's that. But after a quick google, looks like it's self-published.

Still though, 4.7 stars after about 500 reviews on amazon for this shameless shlock, so still, write your own shit and sell it on amazon. You can certainly do better.

>>11045987
>looks like it's self-published.
Well that's reassuring at least. Something that terrible should not have passed an editor's desk with a stamp of approval.

>>11045930
>When I got to the "reveal" that the plot takes place in a medieval world that's actually the future after nuclear holocaust I was actually considering writing mark a email telling him he should sue the fuck out of this thief
So I assume you've never seen the original 1968 Planet of the Apes film?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDLS12_a-fk

>>11045989
It would've pass any editor's desk, as long as it was written by a mexican/jewish/black 56%er mutt trans lesbian midget who does anti-gun activism.

>>11045930
>that the plot takes place in a medieval world that's actually the future after nuclear holocaust I was actually considering writing mark a email telling him he should sue the fuck out of this thief
Mark Lawrence hardly invented that concept. Hell even Wheel of Time does some of t hat.

>>11045480
>NPC's
What's this about? Just a bunch of gods roleplaying d&d and npc characters that they can't roll the dice on?

>>11046012
The concept isn't new. But releasing your book less than 3 years later using the same setting and basic character outline, backstory, motivation for your main character isn't using the same premise, it's copyright infringement

>>11046018
Some guys are playing !D&D, but the GM is being a cunt and kills the whole party (they ate some shrooms, and then they went drinking on a tavern, which activated poison in the shrooms or something), which had been called on a quest by the king. Fearing the king would fuck the town over due to the death of the adventurers, four NPCs (the tavern owner who's a half-orc, the mayor's daughter, one of the guards, and a gnome who frequents the tavern and is friends with the owner) hide the corses and assume their roles, going on a whacky adventure.

It's enjoyable, but most certainly not good. Just fun shlock, though the fun is ruined to a point by the author's clear SJWism. Plus this faggot
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Lawful_Stupid

>>11046057
Gayyy. Guess I'll stick to weeb goblin Slayer light novels to scratch that particular itch

>>11046072
Goblin Slayer is no doubt better than NPCs. By a mile.

Also, the animu was announced about a month ago. By the studio that did/is doing Steins;Gate, Re:Zero and Jormungand, so I'm fucking pumped.

>>11045917
I think Chiang's overrated but he's a good exemplar of Current Year Literary Science Fiction.

>>11046033
That's not how copyright infringement works.

>>11046033
>using the same setting and basic character outline, backstory, motivation for your main character isn't using the same premise, it's copyright infringement
No it's just being unoriginal. Mark Lawrence does not have a copyright on any of those ideas, in point of fact you can't copyright ideas and concepts that way. You can copyright names though, if you can justify they're important to your brand. Robert Jordan copyrighted the phrase "Dragon Reborn", for example, but he didn't copyright the concept of a prophesied hero that would save and destroy the world with his 2 friends. You're free to rip off Robert Jordan as much as you want as long as you don't call your prophesied hero the Dragon Reborn.

>>11046133
>>11046165
You dumb cunts have clearly never seen a copyright suit than.

>>11046194
I've seen plenty. You can't copyright general ideas, only specific ones that you can prove creative ownership of.

>>11045119
Rothfuss is pretty universally despised around here outside the occasional baiter

whats your favorite magic system?

>>11046344
I like the one in Trudy Canavan's black magician or w/e the series she is know for is called.

>>11046302
Rothfuss.is a literary genius. It takes a very high IQ to understand his work and you clearly lack the intellectual capacity to enjoy it on the same level I do.

>>11046351
Ah another Black Magician trilogy fan. I too like the magic system she had there. It's very simple, yet has fairly concrete rules that make it easy to determine limits.

>missed 1½ thread
Wew.

Free Dick (download): http://b-ok.xyz/s/?q=Flow+my+tears+the+policeman+said

>>11046450
Thanks senpai
Let's make sure we all read it

Can I post a link to my Gunpowder Fantasy work in progress here or would that be frowned upon?

>>11046464
I will steal any ideas you post and publish them before you do. I have no shame whatsoever.

>>11046477
>publish them

Where? Are you actually a conventionally published author?

Or would my ideas being going into your Kindle Store/Deviantart/Furaffinity.net ramblings?

>>11045102
>>11045119
So anybody else?

>>11046544
Sanderson, everyone shits on him in between books and then he releases one and everyone discusses it

>>11046558
That's not polarizing.

>>11046544
A lot of the new age trash that's written where the author forces ideological bullshit down your throat and are lauded with praise I suppose. But nobody here really reads those books and everyone knows at this point that scifi awards are meaningless trash that have lost any semblance of merit

>>11046571
> everyone knows at this point that scifi awards are meaningless trash that have lost any semblance of merit
Except of John W. Campbell Memorial Award. They still pick good stuff. Last year won this lad.

>>11046599
I like the cover. I'll have to go check it out

So are these writers any good? I am trying figure what to not read.

K. J. Parker
Charles de Lint
Naomi Novik
Jim Butcher
Robin Hobb
Raymond E. Feist
David Eddings

Looking for some fantasy recommendations. Any sub genre, except YA. Doesn't matter if it's a stand alone or a series.

>Some books I like
Malazan
Powder Mage series
Kings of the Wyld
Discworld
The Traitor Baru Cormorant
First Law
Lies of Locke Lamora
Blood Song

>Some books I dislike

Kingkiller Chronicles(I like the prose.)
Tigana
Farseer Trilogy
Any Sanderson book (Although I like his world building)
Riryria
Greatcoats(Really hate this one)
Night Angel(Hate Brent Weeks in general)

>Middle of the road books (I neither like or dislike them)
Red Sister/Grey Sister
NK Jesmins Broken Earth
Shadow Campaigns by Django Wrexler

As a rec from myself I'd go with Blood Song, it's part of the Raven's Shadow series but I strongly recommend you read it as a standalone as there's a significant drop in quality from the second book.
The book in the pic is nice too.

Looking for some fantasy recommendations. Any sub genre, except YA. Doesn't matter if it's a stand alone or a series.

>Some books I like
Malazan
Powder Mage series
Kings of the Wyld
Discworld
The Traitor Baru Cormorant
First Law
Lies of Locke Lamora
Blood Song

>Some books I dislike

Kingkiller Chronicles(I like the prose.)
Tigana
Farseer Trilogy
Any Sanderson book (Although I like his world building)
Riryria
Greatcoats(Really hate this one)
Night Angel(Hate Brent Weeks in general)

>Middle of the road books (I neither like or dislike them)
Red Sister/Grey Sister
NK Jesmins Broken Earth
Shadow Campaigns by Django Wrexler

As a rec from myself I'd go with Blood Song, it's part of the Raven's Shadow series but I strongly recommend you read it as a standalone as there's a significant drop in quality from the second book.
The book in the pic is nice too.

>>11046690
Where is Strange&Norrell muh dood?

>>11046690
The God Engines - short and great

The Darkness That Comes Before - only the first book of the series. The rest are trash.
The Dragonbone Chair

>>11046641
>decent
Naomi Novik
Robin Hobb

>have not read
K. J. Parker
Charles de Lint
Raymond E. Feist

>shit
Jim Butcher
David Eddings

>>11046701
Haven't read it, had it recommended before but I've been stung by most of the historical fantasy I've read lately so I've been wary.

>>11046707
God engines sounds interesting, thanks I'll check it out. I do love me a well done medley of sci fi and fantasy.

Looking for quality chinese fantasy novels or ones set in china.

>>11046722
Butcher isn't a shit writer, he just treats his job as a form of entertainment than a form of art. If that means writing enough short stories about a wizard for hire doing babysitting jobs for bigfoot that he can publish a compilation of them, then so be it

>>11046730
It's better than all fantasy rekd here. Tv show is pretty great too

>>11044229
>red mars least likely to satisfy
What in the fuck

>>11046741
Chronicles of Master Li and Number Ten Ox

okay, so the end of way of kings was pretty good but ive got one problem when dalinar has that one final vision and the guy in gold says i...im god. kek what? thats one of the dumbest things ive ever read. not because of athiesm or anything, but because there's this great struggle in the book within the characters and religion. there's all this philosophy about whether or not there's an "almighty" and he just discounts all that by showing God in the end. like a big fuck you to all this debate and i really think the book would have been better if he left it ambiguous.
oh well, maybe it serves a purpose in the later books.

>>11044190

>>11044632
>I'm certain that both her character and the way she gets put into that position are criticisms of the West
Does China view the west as pacifistic? Because all of her godawful fuck-ups seemed to be in the name of pacifism.

Either way, none of it really mattered, we were going to get ours 2D-wise anyway, our spacetime had already been collapsed to 3 spatial dimensions through similar conflict.

>>11045899
>>tfw I loathed Story of Your Life
I liked it, but I listened to an audiobook version, so it sounded like a post-menopausal woman on the Oprah channel talking about insane alien linguistics.

Never saw the film.

>>11044997

thanks anon

>>11045316
>no, Book of Amber is shit from page one.
nah

*yawn*

>>11045817
bump

>>11045899
Just that story, or the entire collection? I think Chiang's great but I agree that SoYL was pretty weak.

>>11045986
Come on. Abercrombie would answer a "yes or no" question on no fewer than 3000 words. That make him polarizing.

>>11045875
"Switching" the American/Western and Chinese characters ensured the comparison was entirely about ideology rather than race or "national characteristics".

>>11046846
>pacifism
Think of the Trisolarans as refugees looking for a better life rather than an invading army.

>>11045986
People that love Rothfus aren't real people.

>>11045966
Gay

>>11047514
>Think of the Trisolarans as refugees looking for a better life rather than an invading army
This comparison have so many holes that it should not float even by a miracle. Overlooking things like the shifting relationship between the two races, the Trisolarans superior technology and the presence of a outer threat working on both races, why do you think that Cixin Liu would write about that? Also, remember that in the end everyone turn out cozy and friendly.

>>11046641
Parker is based

>>11046690
The Scar by Mieville. Pirate utopia, back-alley body modification and deep-sea beasties.

>>11043940
Oathbringer

>>11046690
Bakker's Prince of Nothing books
Anything by KJ Parker
The Steel Remains by Richard Morgan
Dragon In Chains by Daniel Fox

>>11045917
> reading meme books
Anon, I don't even.

How would you fix Eragon?
For starters the dragon gets banged

>>11047891
>the dragon bangs the kid

>>11047891
No elves or dwarves, more Urgal and Ra'zac stuff. Have Galbatorix actually do something. Resolution that isn't just "he finds a bunch of old dragon souls".

>>11047891
Have Galba-what's-his-name actually do bad stuff. Remove everything Varden related (hell, remove the empire too), remove elves, remove dwarves and make the story about Eragon and Murtagh finding out the history of the dragonriders and then defeating the big bad.

Or, for an more interesting story, have Galba actually be right and turn Eragon. The whole thing still need to be shortened down, but most of stuff can be kept somewhat intact.

Can't believe I spent this much time thinking and writing about fucking Eragon.

>>11047965
Eragon is still kind of a guilty pleasure for me desu. I remember as a kid spending a lot of time thinking about different spells you could do with that language, or the "mysteries" like the Grey People or what might be on the other continent. Apparently Paolini's been (very slowly) writing a space opera since, might get that when it comes out for old time's sake.

>>11047556
I'm not saying that's what the Trisolarans are. I'm saying that having that viewpoint would lead to "pacifist" behavior without requiring subscription to an actual philosophy of pacifism.

>>11048145
But that viewpoint is also silly. Refugees don't come and destroy your entire space navy.

Also that didn't seem to be Cheng Xin's perspective. She just wanted to "protect her baby" never mind that her decisions were dumb as all fuck.

>>11044071
I'm halfway through Count to Infinity and boy howdy, you ain't seen nothing yet.

Just finished Eye of the World, thought it was pretty good, when does WoT start being shit?

>>11043751

SFF Masterworks is great selection of sci-fi and fantasy classics.

>>11048566
The quality slowly keep dropping until around the 11th book, which is better, and then it's Sanderson time.

>>11046833
Is that how she's drawn

>>11046641
They're all middling genre writers. If you look for the good in each you'll find something to enjoy. If you look for the bad you'll toss them and post about the wasted time. None have the skill to make you like them against your will but there's no harm in seeing if any strike a chord in you.

>>11045239
Name 13 books that do this

>>11046730
I'd strongly recommend it if you enjoy a subtle mood, playfully sustained. If you like plot fireworks, you might get bored.

>>11046762
True. And also the things he does that distanced me from him are things that draw many genre readers -- multiple storylines of a long sustained plot in a coherent yet ever expanding world setting.

For me I gave him up after I couldn't remember which thread he was updating until after I'd finished the latest book, but I know there are some people for whom that's catnip.

>>11046968
He's a creep. Only suitable for assimilationist gommies.

>>11046690

Is there any fantasy that takes place in a ww1 like era? ?

>>11048619
Thats a fucking great list

>>11043940
I just finished Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said less than a minute ago. Tomorrow I'll start The War of The Worlds.

>>11046450
>the 5th
I have to hold in my thoughts for 12 days. Oh my.
>>11049392

"So proud to witness this. The series is a modern masterpiece by all accounts. I think in 50 years time it will be viewed in a similar way to how we view Tolkein's LOTR now. Also his writing speed, considering the complex of the plot and the characters, is absolutely insane! I'm not sure if there are any current authors who match it? Maybe Sanderson, but then his world building isn't quite as deep as Erikson's/Esslemont's (who admittedly have 20-30 years of it which helps)."

>>11049409
Write them down. It's a good practice.

where can pirate heartgem homestead from?

what should i read next?
>words of radiance -sanderman
>the name of the wind - rothfuss
>wheel of time - jordan

hyperion and watership down are also on my list to read but im not as hyped for those.

>>11049596
I would say name of the wind just because I enjoyed it. But if you believe what's said here it is a polarizing style.
The second book isn't nearly as good imo.
The side story book is quite good and I enjoyed it because it was so weird.

>>11049596
Hyperion

>>11049596
blindsight

>>11049596
I'd rate them Stormlight > WoT > Kingkiller. But I would not recommend that anyone read any of them. Stormlight is mostly filler, worldbuilding and lackluster, infantile characters with a couple of good action scenes. WoT is ambitious but with declining quality and it's practically unfinished. Kingkiller is like the definition of a polished turd, the first book is flawed but it's hidden by unironically 10 years of editing. The second book did not have this "advantage" and the third one don't seem like it'll ever be released.

Both Hyperion and Watership down are superior to the three others.

>>11045817
bump

>>11045817
>>11049728
Why do you even need to ask? Start with the ______.

>>11049596
Name of the Winds is cancer.
I haven't read Sanderson.
I've liked Wheel of Time so far.

>>11049566
i thought you litrpg fags had your own general now?

>>11049755
not a litrpg fag, but I'll try to find that general then
heard about this series from a friend and I ain't paying for a book with an anime cover

>>11049728
All three my good woman

Any good sff about a martial arts tournament?

>>11049861
Doesn't sound like fantasy or science fiction to me.

>>11049880
Yeah, it's almost as if I asked for an sff book recommendation which included an element that is often used in fantasy movies and games. Was my question so confusing to you that you have to shitpost in response?

/sffg/ I don’t know what to do and I don’t know who to ask.

I’ve beed editing my novel and I keep finding that the more I fix, the more I need to fix. At my current stage it’s looking like Im going to need to re-write 3/4 of my book unless I just say fuck it and reverse all my edits up until the end of chapter one.

This would mean I’d only have to edit 1/4 of my book, which I know can do, but it will probably ruin the villain by making his evilness obvious from the first chapter and his motives unclear

I know the latter is the right choice but I don’t want to do this anymore. However, if I do what I wish I could do, i’d pretty much guarantee that my book will be forgettable shit, whereas if I change it I have an infitesimal but nonzero chance.

I don’t know what to do and even when I think I’ve decided The next time I sit down to write I spin off another parallel branch that goes nowhere

My chest physically hurts thinking about this

>>11049934
wrong general

>>11049952
Its fantasy

>>11050010
no one cares about your novel here. this isnt for writers.

>>11049908
>>11049861
This has what you want and it’s a pretty good read

>>11049566
mobilism

I've never read any military scifi and wanted to give it a try. Are they more redpilled than your typical modern sci fi? Also I'm posting a few to see if anyone's read them and what they thought

>>11050186

>>11050186
.

>>11050114
Does this read like a weeb fanfiction?

>>11049755
What the hell is litrpg and why do I want to bully these people?

>>11050231
I'd say no but I've never read weeb fanfiction so I can't say for sure

>>11048336
I couldn't finish the first book. All he does is get high and go super Saiyan. Does it ever get better?

>>11046968
>When your entire socialist utopian premise falls flat on his face because even the author admits it's all fairy tale bullshit that couldn't work in reality without very bad men and monsters doing the things nobody else will

>>11050257
I think it gets better, but the whole powerups thing is kind of a central point of the series, along with everything being Catholic. I will say I didn't expect it to get quite to the levels it did.

>>11045506
good post

Tigana or The Worm Ouroboros?

Anyone read the rest of Lems and Strugatsky bros work? I've read Solaris and Roadside Picnic and i'm curious about the rest.

What's the best novel written by someone who posts here?

>>11050393
Mine.

>>11050301
tigana

>>11050186

>>11049596
NotW is flawed, but well-written. The sequel is irredeemable garbage that doubles down on all the flaws of the first book, and the third book will probably never exist. WoR is generic modern-style high fantasy. WoT is the same but more bloated.

>>11050301
Both. They're each strong contenders for the position of best stand-alone fantasy novel ever written.

>>11050393
my novel, it's not done yet though

>>11049755
It's not litrpg though.

>>11050587
i know, I just throw it in there (along with Super Sales and etc) to trigger the fags who read that garbage.

>tfw I don't currently have a book I'm hooked by

I hate this feeling

>>11050777
Read Wheel of Time

just got done marathoning this, what did I think of it?

>>11050777
>tfw author is going mountain climbing instead of finishing th sequels

>>11050186
Larson's the best of what you've posted, Kloos is the only one with any real overt politics but it amounts to pretty much just having an inefficient welfare system in his world. Also the war in his books is naff because it's an attack on titan ripoff

>>11050383
read Hard to Be a God and then watch the film of it

>>11050804
I got bored by the second book, I really wish I'd read it at a younger age desu

>never read fantasy or Sci-Fi
>been writing for a couple years, but never anything coming close to those genres
>start writing a story about the The Dark Eye campaign I'm currently part of
>it flows off super easily and is much more fun to write than the other, realist project I'm working on

W-What is happening

>>11050916
>W-What is happening
Basically this >>11045506

>>11044093

"Kaleidescope" from the illustrated man by Bradbury

>>11044706

Last wish is fantastic, Sword of Destiny meh, Blood of Elves etc are unreadably bad.

Best non-Gemmell modern sword and sorcery?

Also which of the older/original works actually hold up?

>>11044997

I liked UBIQ and Palmer Eldritch. Androids was good, Maze of Death was shit, and I couldn't get into Bloodmoney. Galactic Pot Healer started ok but was a shitshow, and I really really like Faith of our Fathers.

Dick Suggestions?

>>11045102
>>11045119
>>11045986

I wouldn't call those polarizing.

>Abercrombie is awful, its not even debatable.
>Martin has garbage writing and ideas, but politics and intrigue are entertaining.
>Rothfus's writing is ok, but his plots and characters are shit.

Controversial might be

>EE Smith's Lensmen series
>"which Terry Pratchet books are good and which are shit"

>>11050805
You thought the movie was better. Which is a pretty pleb opinion, more so if you've never read the film and only watched the book. You should just kys myself, t.b.h, I promise I'll be gentle.

>>11048950
I think it's some tumblr artist's rendition. I have the full somewhere. I'll hafta look.

>>11047514
>Think of the Trisolarans as refugees looking for a better life rather than an invading army.
I'd have to agree that they were much more complex and shitty. I'm pretty sure that whole thing where they were making films and music was just an effort to make us docile. They're definitely more the conqueror type, but out of necessity. Could be wrong, though. I need to reread.

Tim Powers has some pretty interesting plot premise in his novels. Should I read his stuff?

yea he's ok 'ive read most of his stuff

>>11051089
>Faith of Our Fathers
M Y N I G G A

Read VALIS + The Divine Invasion

>>11051087
>Best non-Gemmell modern sword and sorcery?
There isn't any. The genre officially died with him.

>>11051087
>Also which of the older/original works actually hold up?
All the good stuff holds up because if it was good back then it's gonna be good now too. Specifically check out Solomon Kane.

>>11048158
I don't want to get distracted by the "refugee" angle. Maybe I really am just projecting but I don't see how "incompetent woman is elected to office and dooms everyone because she can't perform her job" isn't AT LEAST a swipe at democracy, if not "the West".

>>11051172
I think there are grounds for radical skepticism about basically any "revealed" aspect of Trisolaran culture, physiology, or intent. The reader isn't at any point given a remotely objective assessment of any of those things, except, maybe, the first reply that Ye Wenjie gets ("stop, we're really bad"). Everything else probably has an ulterior motive, including their assertion that they're incapable of having ulterior motives. It's great.

>>11051238
Yeah, me trying to get into their mindset makes me no better than filthy Tri-sol.

ive read 3 books in a row who all described black people as having "nut brown" skin

get more descriptive words nerds

>>11051276
Skin like nutella

>>11051276
You can't use words like "ebony resembling the pitch darkness of a starless night" is racis

>>11051283
>his skin glistening like freshly oiled walnut wood as he thrust his large member deep into your wife's now ruined vagina

>>11051276
>reading YA
shame on you

>>11043940
That assassin's blade by sarah j maas some anon recommend.

The fucker tricked me though, it's all hotfire garbage.

>a voice like gravel
What does this mean?

>>11051334
are you the same guy who got tricked into reading Prince of Thorns?

>>11051313
Too much

>>11051357
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m75OSHbzb8s

>>11045966
>>11045984
>>11047554
Downloaded them last night.
First novella was just two embarrassingly mtv teenagers trying to free black slaves from white people.

Fucker tricked me.

>>11051451
How did I trick you? I literally called her a hack

>>11051451
what kind of books you lookin for? I read a few fantasy series written after 2005 ( so no old timey classics) that I enjoyed and could rec

>>11045984
What the fuck, Ancillary Justice is in the top two sci-fi books produced in the last five years. You go enjoy Terry Goodkind now.

>>11043940
The magician king

Currently on Flow My Tears, The Policeman Said and I'm loving it
Not very far in yet but I'm definitely hooked

>>11046968
should be called "Fear of chairs"

>>11051496
what's the other book

>>11046968
>>11049083
>>11046968

It's not like Elethiomel really did anything that wrong, all in all, he simply mindbroke Zakalwe so hard that he became a winrar. . What he was doing was justified in the context of the war.

Chasm City was like a far better version of this book. Now there's some fucked up disturbing psyche. And unlike Elethiomel from Bank's book Sky Haussman actually does everything wrong as opposed to doing absolutely right until the author tells him to do a reveal as opposed to Elethiomel from Bank's book who seems like a completely different character to the way he was before. Aspects of Sky's character from Reynold's novel starts to leak hard which builds up the foreshadowing and Reynold's prose and worldbuilding as well as characterisation is simply better. Banks I feel just doesn't have the prose to back up the serious plots, Banks often has good humour but his prose and plot just doesn't work in half the books I've tried except for Surface Detail.

Chasm City is also great because of the amount of keikaku which is intertwined with the story. The MC had an agenda, as opposed to Weapons where the MC was just pushed along to suffer as the author's little bitch and the plot structure felt a lot less coherent. Reveals were also better in Chasm City. And Chasm City's Sky wins simply because he is so much more realistically fucked up then with Banks' Elethiomel who mopes harder than the protagonist of those Linkin Park songs. He just doesn't have that much agency and the ending seems unfair as fuck in my eyes. He did what he had to.

>>11051496
Ancillary justice is an excuse for social commentary disguised as a book to force ideological bullshit down your throat. Your taste in literature is absolutely laughable and you should contemplate suicide because there's no salvation for you, you literally aren't smart enough

>>11051713
Imagine having an IQ so high that you can understand this cryptic reference to Turgenev’s Russian epic Fathers and Sons.

Anyone know any good collections of fantasy short stories?

preferable stuff that deals with lovecraftian horror and non-european fairy tales

Just finished The Quantum Thief trilogy, which was pretty good and now I'm looking for other books both fantasy and sci-fi that really introduce strange new concepts. Any recommendations?

>>11051861
Greg Egan (Diaspora, Permutation City, Engineering Infinity) if you don't mind actual math and John C. Wright (The Golden Age, Count to a Trillion, Awake in the Night Land) if you do.

>>11051884
Sweet, thanks.

КИHO
New moon/wolf moon

>>11050383
> Anyone read the rest of Lems and Strugatsky bros work?
I am native russian speaker and have read almost all of Strugatsky's work and half of Lem. Also we have superior soviet translations of Lem.

What is great (Strugatsky):
The Second Invasion from Mars
The Doomed City
Roadside Picnic
Hard to Be a God

Shite/meh:
Far Rainbow
Dead Mountaineer's Hotel
Snail on the Slope (fucking awful)
The Final Circle of Paradise
Monday Begins on Saturday
The Land of Crimson Clouds
Limping Fate/The Ugly Swans
etc.

What is great (Lem):
Eden
The Invincible
The Futurological Congress
Tales of Pirx the Pilot
The Star Diaries

Shite/meh:
Solaris
Fiasco
The Cyberiad: Fables for the Cybernetic Age
His Master's Voice
Return from the Stars

Do people actually cry about Coltaine's death?

>>11052038
Haven't read as much as you did, but I agree in general.
Lem and brothers Strugatsky are awesome.

>>11051826
Literally robert e howard

>>11050825
Thanks. Do you have anything you’d recommend?

>>11052187
For footsoldiers:

Larson: Undying Mercs + Rebel Fleet
Poor Man's War is fun
Armor is rated but I've never read it

For commander types Vorksovagian, Honor Harrington and Lost Fleet are all at least worth a look.

None of them are that explicitly political thought (at least in the way you want), someone rec'd Falkenberg's Legions here before and that's very libertarian but I thought it was naff and Ember War is very right wing but also hilariously shit to the point where it feels like satire.

Other than that look at older stuff like Starship Troopers and Forever War

>>11052038
Thanks for the list.

Why didn't you like Solaris?

>>11052328
It's overly melodramatic.

WE'RE BACK

test

What did you guys read during the down time?

test

In all seriousness, what actually went wrong with Oathbringer?

I cannot be the only one disappointed with it.

>>11052371
Flow My Tears, I'll probably finish it tomorrow thanks to this.

Is wheel of time the series were the author is obsessed with spanking?

>>11052415
And braid tugging.

>>11048566
First two books are really good. But by the end of the third and start of the forth, you’ll figure out how the rest of the books until the end will be. It’s just traveling until something major happens at the end of each book.

>>11052399
shhh criticism of sanderson is frowned upon

>>11052371
My diary desu

>>11052441
No it's not

Sanderson a hack

>>11052399
What do you think went wrong?

>>11052415
>>11052418
And all because of his wife. The world is a strange place.

>>11052404
>tfw just read the line
>He paused a moment to quietly fart, then continued...
Amazing really.

>>11052468
A lot of things went wrong. But I’ll start with the undeniable.

An heretic becoming a queen and an inconsequential murder.

>>11051713
Ancillary justice is unironically good, it's the sequels that suck. Like many series, it reads like it was written as one book but then the publisher wanted a serie because series are hot shit nowadays.

>>11052517
>an inconsequential murder.

Two inconsequential murders you mean.

>>11045938
I just finished that one, what a fucking ride. RoEP is one of the most profound pieces of science fiction I've read.

>>11052534
I can count at least 3.

Wew, I thought I'd go insane during the down time

>>11046450
Downloaded, let's do this lads.

>>11052058
I cried a lot reading Malazan, yes.

>>11052494
dickino

>>11052635
It wasn't that bad.

>>11044706
I love the Witcher series, but the best are definitely the first few climaxing at Time of Contempt.

>>11044706
Ciri ruins the series, worst character imaginable.

>>11044190
Based Wade deserved so much better than Cheng Xin, thanks for the cigars you fucking bimbo.

>>11052545
What are the second and third?!?

>>11052246
Your thoughts on David Weber?

>>11052641
I doubt they'd agree with you.

>>11052685
I like him but he's very big on picking some concept and just explaining it

Also he tends to crib from history so almost all of his space battles are reminiscent of naval ones which won't be for everyone.

What was this guy's fucking problem?

>>11052701
I've had his Safehold series recommended to me, and I know that naval battles are a big part of that, it must be in his DNA.

new
>>11052757
>>11052757
>>11052757
thread

>>11051473
I'm looking for YA fantasy with a female protagonist, for research purposes.

>>11045935
Try Ubik or Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep