/lit/ - Literature

>>11011148
What are you asking exactly?

I've yet to get into Dosto, but I imagine his stuff to be less implicitly humorous than Moby Dick. (Of course, Moby Dick is a lot of things)

>>11011202
Dostoevsky is tragicomedy that never ends.

>>11011323
What is the funniest part in Dosto's books?

>>11011997
The part in the TBK after Dmitry gets arrested, when he makes fun of bureaucratic language. The contrast between the intensity of Dmitry's dream and the silliness of that part made me laugh like a retard while I was on the train.

>>11012009
Sounds fucking hilarious lmao. Bureaucratic language haha. Bureaucracy BTFO

>>11011148
Melville is much less small-o orthodox Christian than Dostoevsky. In fact, it's debatable whether Melville is Christian at all.

>>11012066
I really don't think you could argue that he was a Christian at all. Hawthorne writes in his some of his diary entries about how desperately Melville wanted to believe in God but he couldn't commit to faith. Why might you think he was a believer?

>>11012009

Raskolnikov's interactions with Pyotr Petrovich always made for imagery that got a chuckle out of me. That "game" of cat and mouse with Rodya getting angrier and angrier and more paranoid, especially in the scene where it's immediately flipped around when that other guy crashes into the room making a false confession and Luzhin is so flustered by it. God damn, I'm smirking thinking about it.

>>11011148

I don't recall much in Moby-Dick that was specifically theological, except for the kind of deterministic fate or doom in store for Ahab as a result of his own monomaniacal nature.

>>11012058
fuck off

>>11012275
>>11012009

You should read Breon Mitchell's translation of "The Trial", if you haven't.

>>11011148
Poorly. It's American art, after all.

>>11012429
haha yeah totally completely agree with you haha yep true TRUE true true ture tuer tue tereu

>>11012429
Haha, and that Faulkner guy is a HACK, all those run-on sentences such garbage

>>11012009
>>11012058
HE WAS A BUERUCRAT MORTY I DONT RESPEC THEM LOL

>>11011148

How much will Moby Dick teach me about the epistemology of meta-ethics? I learned an extremely large amount from Gravity's Rainbow

>>11012009
The whole thing with Mitya trying to get money, and him hanging out with the Poles is hilarious too

>>11011997
In C&P when the lady is freaking out because she was evicted and whining about how she's and aristocrat and doesn't deserve it and she's beating her kids while they're singing to gain alms, and then gets a heart attack and dies.

>>11015035
What did you learn about the epistemology of meta-ethics from Gravity's Rainbow?

>>11015146

You didn't find it obvious? Fucking pleb

>>11015246
As I expected.

>>11015246
Seriously that sounds interesting. I want to hear.

>>11012111
Did Melville write an epic poem based on his experiences when he took a pilgrimage to Jerusalem?

>>11011148
The main theme of Moby Dick is the application of stoicism. Do you hang around life as a purposeless loser and nerd like Ishmael who just lets whatever happends wash over him, or do you rage against the heavens like a maniacal idiot when you have literally 0 chance of success, like Ahab? You shouldn't do too much of either obv.

The Whale itself can be seen as a metaphor for God, but there it gets kind of complicated. Probaby since - as has been mentioned - Melville's own relationship with Christianity was kind of complicated.

Over all I think Moby Dick works best when read as a comedy. It's absolutely hilarious if you allow it to be. At least the first 100 or so pages were explicitly comedic.

>>11011148
>Moby-Cock
kek

>>11012009
thatll show those fuckin Tsarist paper pushers!!!

Theyre not similar; Moby Dick is a prose epic, massive in scope. Dosto writes 'narrow' stories about individual psychology.

>>11015862
This desu.

>>11011148

>>11011997
Fyodor when visiting the Elder is one part that stuck out for me.

>>11016068
>TFW my posts were screencapped.

I...I feel a sense of accomplishment...thank you anon.

>*improves on Dostoevsky*

>>11016857
It's a beautiful post anon. Made me go get my copy pf Moby Dick just to read a bit of Ahab's fuckery.
t. One who just saved it

>>11016857
It's a beautiful post anon. Made me go get my copy pf Moby Dick just to read a bit of Ahab's fuckery.
t. Someone who just saved it

>>11015103
That part where one of the kids runs off and she falls while chasing him and then dies? Laughted af

>>11011997

Notes from the underground is probably one of the funniest books I've ever read.
Not only laughed pretty much from the first page to the last but also made me feel sorry for him and the prostitute, made me think if he was being honest (or if one can be honest when talking about one's self at all).

Idk man, maybe I just haven't read enough but Notes really hit me hard from all levels

>>11011148
He was a religious philosopher.

I've actually just bought it. I'm somewhat afraid of going into it, because I've read so many great things about it, and also so many horrible things about it, I'm not sure what experience I'm gonna get out of it.

>>11015732
yes and as far as i know its very focused on melville's personal disillusionment with christianity.

>>11011997
Notes is pretty funny desu