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>There's no female conspiracy in publishing – your book might just not be good

>But while it’s true that I worked hard, it’s also true that I’m a white, married woman living in America, and that affords me a lot of privileges.

>When we talk about “gatekeepers” in publishing and the kinds of voices that are prioritised, we can’t focus solely on gender, or race, or class – or any other kind of marginalisation. Because when it comes to creating a more diverse and intersectional landscape in publishing, viewing the problem through an intersectional lens is the least that we can do. And you can bet it’s going to take a lot more than just a hashtag.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2018/apr/10/misandry-in-publishing-hashtag-male-authors-book-lauren-spieller

How can /lit/ come back from this?

Daily reminder there is NO BIAS in the world of publishing towards certain genders or ethno-religious groups :)

>> No.10983796
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Remember fellow white ladies, POC need to have their voices heard :)

>> No.10983800
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Oh, and fellow white people need to do better to make sure we have no biases :)

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>>10983788
>Lauren (((Spieller)))

They don't even try hide it

>> No.10983805
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Oh, and fantasy writers miiiight wanna think about having fewer fellow white people in their books :)

>> No.10983807

>>10983788
Just because you all suck at writing or you write about bullshit doesn't mean you're being targetted. You just suck.
>tfw you're black

>> No.10983810
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Oh, and fellow white people may wanna stop being morons all the time :)

>> No.10983813

>>10983788
>There's no female conspiracy in publishing
>source: female publisher
Dismissed.

>> No.10983814
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Oh and white people. WE. NEED. TO. DO. BETTER. :)

>> No.10983819

>>10983813
A kike at that

>> No.10983820

Its never been easy to get published. You don't have to be insecure and have to blame someone in an us vs them thing.

>> No.10983824
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Oh, and fellow white people, please consider not writing to allow our diverse brothers and sisters a chance okay? :)

>> No.10983826

>>10983801
Hide what?

>> No.10983830

>>10983826
You know what

>> No.10983833
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Oh and white guys, your books are booooring :)

>> No.10983837

>>10983830
Is it code? I don't know what you were talking about.

>> No.10983838
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Oh and fellow white feminists, you're not doing enough :)

>> No.10983841

>>10983837
SHE'S A FUCKING JEEEEEEEEEEEW
A JEW
A BIG NOSED CHRIST KILLLLING FUCKING KIKE

>> No.10983844

>>10983814
We get it. A probably Jewish woman claiming white when it suits her and being otherwise underhanded and agenda driven against whites and men. I know this is technically literature related, but leave it over at /pol/. If we give too much leeway to these threads we'll see this board turn more /pol/ than it already is. And we don't need that. We don't need more /leftypol/ either. The both of you go back to your containments and let this board be what it is.

>> No.10983846
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Oh, and last but not least, I'm Jewish :)

But there's no bias in publishing :)

>> No.10983847

>>10983810
So, hows about we replace the term "white people" with "christian people" or "women"? Will the sentence still be relevant?

>> No.10983850

>>10983844
>Oy vey shut it down you might start getting the goyim interested in reading

>> No.10983852

>>10983838
It took me a while to realize the word mayo in the hastag was deliberate

>> No.10983854

>>10983847
Why would you criticize women publicly? Are you a Nazi or something?

>> No.10983855
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>>10983844
>probably Jewish
>>probably Jewish
>>>>probably Jewish
>>>>>>>>probably Jewish

>> No.10983857

>>10983841
Ok, I get it now. Is this what the many parentheses are about? For when anon is afraid of pointing out that someone is a Jew?

>> No.10983858

>>10983833
Does she have a dick?

>> No.10983859
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>>10983857
BECAUSE ITS FUCKING EASIER

>> No.10983869 [DELETED] 
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No bias at all sweetie :)

In fact, white guys are massively over-represented :)

>> No.10983871

>>10983859
Don't get upset, I get it, it's easier to use code because then it's not so obvious.

>> No.10983874

>>10983788
literature doesn't exist anymore, if anything gets published it is only as a paper by product of the managerial liberalism HR gynocratic leviathan, nobody is gonna read it anyways. We should pity these people, trapped as they are in an absurd hell of their own making, out of touch with literary tradition or even their own 'authentic' 'marginalized' cultures, their lives an endless riff on harry potter and social justice managementspeak, their YA fantasy novels read not by children but only by fellow neurotic 30 year olds scouring for problematic microagressions.

http://www.vulture.com/2017/08/the-toxic-drama-of-ya-twitter.html

>> No.10983875

>>10983869
Not related to the thread at all but why did Jews think that Drumpf's election was scary for them? Hes one of the biggest Israel shills we've had in a while

>> No.10983881

>>10983844
I normally get annoyed at the /pol/tards too but why what's wrong with discussing biases in the publishing industry on a literature board? This is still better than another Peterson thread.

>> No.10983885

>>10983844
This but unironically

>> No.10983887

>>10983875
Because they think it will empower the goyim to seek further resistence when they notice Trump isn't up to the task. What happens when you avoid one solution but you exhaust all others

>> No.10983891

IF THERE ARE MANY WHITE MALES THAT ARE UPSET THAT THERE ARE MANY FEMALES IN PUBLISHING: WHY DONT THE MANY WHITE MALES START A WHITE MALE ONLY PUBLISHING COMPANY, TO PUBLISH ALL THE WHINING WHITE MALE BOOKS?

(PRO TIP: NO EXCUSE TO THIS COMMENT LIKE: "THE WOMEN WOULDNT LET US, WE WOULD NEVER GET AWAY WITH IT!" TRY IS FAGGOS)

>> No.10983892

>>10983885
>tripfag in charge of who should be posting

Unironally fuck off to reddit

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>>10983850
>>Oy vey shut it down
It's amazing that you could read a post like that and this is what you clean from it. You are a meme.

Shiftless Jews or not the last thing we need on this board are LESS threads about literature. I'm not telling you to not talk about this in general, I am asking you not to shit up this board with the kind of threads that your average teenage /pol/ poster would make. Half of this thread is twitter caps with snarky comments added.

>> No.10983894

>>10983891
To be fair I think only a woman is so stupid as to buy a contemporary book.

>> No.10983895

>>10983841
The Romans killed Christ.

>> No.10983896

>>10983891
But thats literally the answer, the company would be called sexist woman hating racists

>> No.10983898

>Fact check: promoting brown and female voices at the expense of white men ISN'T hurting our goal of promoting brown and female voices. Actually, it's helping it.
I know this isn't what you want to hear, but the only way to win against this psychic sludge of resentment and envy and petty evil is to ignore it.

These people thrive on your attention, that's why they go out of their way to irritate and belittle you. What's more is that they are becoming increasingly dependent on your attention as their ad revenue and readership plummets, and so they will resort to increasingly desperate measures to get rageclicks and likes

>> No.10983901

>>10983891
If you hired every straight male who works in HR, you still wouldn't be able to fully staff an HR department for this theoretical company.

>> No.10983903

>>10983894
>fair

>> No.10983905

>>10983893
**glean

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>>10983893
>Hey intellectual """centrist""" here

Shut the fuck up cocksucker, I'm not even /pol/ but I hope they flood self rightious asswipes like you out of here with your silly platitudes

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>>10983895

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>>10983898
>I know this isn't what you want to hear, but the only way to win against this psychic sludge of resentment and envy and petty evil is to ignore it.

We've been doing that and its working pretty well

>> No.10983923

>anti-jew thread
>full of samefags
checks out

>> No.10983930

>>10983874
what use is fantasy for if you can't escape anything?

The Black Witch centers on a girl named Elloren who has been raised in a stratified society where other races (including selkies, fae, wolfmen, etc.) are considered inferior at best and enemies at worst. But when she goes off to college, she begins to question her beliefs, an ideological transformation she’s still working on when she joins with the rebellion in the last of the novel’s 600 pages. (It’s the first of a series; one hopes that Elloren will be more woke in book two.)

>> No.10983932

>>10983901
>>10983896
Why would you need HR in a white male publishing company? They are not a bunch of sissy pansys who need runny nose appreciation day. 'WhiteLiveMale Publishing Inc.' whos with me!

Im registering he llc. right now, we will accept submissions from anyone who complains the publishing industry is only feminine coloreds

>> No.10983936

>tfw i am oppressed as a white male due to the sheer weight of carrying dumbasses like OP
who’d have thought the white man’s burden was real

>> No.10983938

>>10983932
Are you this stupid? Who would onboard people?

>> No.10983943

>>10983936
hehe you're so clever and superior

>> No.10983950

>>10983920
Fuck! If only they had published your book! You were THIS close of saving the US publishing world but those evil women and blacks skipped line! You have to demand all the privileges that minorities have or no one could mane it as a white man!

>> No.10983957

>>10983950
>mane it
blew your cover, bro

>> No.10983963

>>10983909
>overly emotional newfag who posts le stupid man reaction images
This is what I mean. This is the manner of poster that these threads draw like flies to shit. A bunch of guys who want to rage more than talk. If this thread were on this topic but in a way that was sincere, engaged discussion then that's another thing. But it isn't. It never is. Instead it's the typical /pol/ brainlet rage with a bunch of guys spazzing out over twitter and anyone who isn't down with this troglodyte shit gets written of as """centrist""".

I dare you to make a few posts on this with any substance and depth. Real, nuanced thoughts. I don't even think you can. But if you were to prove me wrong then at least you've swayed this thread toward a quality of discourse that might actually be worth giving shit about, as opposed to these barely cogent newfag rage porn fests you consider """"important"""".

>> No.10983968

>>10983950
I unironically believe if they replaced every female and non-white writer in literary fiction with a white male writer there would be no sales crisis

>> No.10983969

>>10983909
>GRUG ONLY WANT TALK ABOUT BIG NOSE TRIBE
>GRUG SHOUT ABOUT BIG NOSE TRIBE IN BOOK CAVE, OTHER GRUGS NEED TO KNOW.

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>>10983963
>He disagreed with me, time for me to write two long paragraphs about why I'm correct

Seriously fuck off to reddit, I don't know why you post here

>> No.10983987

>>10983979
You don't know because you're not smart.

>> No.10983989

>>10983968
Are you saying that most of the country avoids reading because they see female or ethnic names on the cover and can't find manly man names?

Or you're saying that rejected writers you've never read are better than enough current writers to compensate people just not reading like they used to?

>> No.10983990

>>10983987
Yeah cheers mate

>> No.10983994

>>10983989
>Or you're saying that rejected writers you've never read are better

Yes the rejected writers who come from the same gene pool as Shakespare, Dante, Goethe, Joyce et al are superior writers than Chimbongo Shimomo. What type of stupid quesiton is this