/lit/ - Literature

>>10954396
>I'm a fedora tipping atheist

No surprise

>>10954396
>the best philosophical content online
You are getting memed, and the worst thing is, you will never realize it because you consider picking up proper secondary resources a neomarxist trickery or something.

>>10954403
I'll take that, but I would give every fedora tipper like me the entire video catalogues of JBP and Gregory Sadler, because the combination has opened my philosophical tastes up by a large degree.

>>10954413
Nice projection. If anything JBP has made me more open minded. A year ago I would have dismissed him simply for using religion in his philosophy.

>>10954396
Peterson is good if you are hopeless and all you need is a teensy bit of motivation to turn your life around.
His the father many white males wish they had.

Also his psychological analysis of the bible is fun

solid 6/10 brainlet philosopher but a 8/10 psychologist

>>10954418
The difference between Gregory and Jordan is that the former won't trade his gift for teaching with an agenda as time goes on.

>>10954396
>6 hours of this guy's content

Well it's not like you had anything better to do all day

>>10954437
>but a 8/10 psychologist

you do not understand what psychology is, why do you feel capable of rating the man
he lies (often) to make a point, like in the channel4 interview where he lies about there being more women physicians than men (this is not true for Canada, nor the US)
he draws up cooky diagraphs that make no sense to anyone but himself and his fans that interpret the guy hermeneutically
he has delusions of being a messiah-like character, writing this to his dad
>I don’t know, Dad, but I think I have discovered something that no one else has any idea about, and I’m not sure I can do it justice. Its scope is so broad that I can see only parts of it clearly at one time, and it is exceedingly difficult to set down comprehensibly in writing…. Anyways, I’m glad you and Mom are doing well. Thank you for doing my income tax returns.

having this in the book's epigraph:
>“I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world” — Matthew 13:35

(he took 14 years to write this book and there's not a sliver of substance in it)

>>10954456
Sure, but that's a product of our political climate. You're not allowed to be centrist anymore, especially in north america and canada. It's too polarized, and unfortunately the media forced JBP to pick a side. Obviously, he wouldn't have gone with the radical left.

I agree that they're different, and that's why I like them. There'd be no point having two teachers that are exactly the same, right? Gregory's comfiness is a nice change from the style Jordan uses.

>>10954460
as opposed to making snarky comments on 4chan?

>>10954396
>a two-year-old had already concluded..
>But it would have been better for him if I had.

>>10954467
>tfw doing a PHD in psychology.
>tfw still don't understand what psychology is.

T...thanks

>>10954476
his prose is so brainlet-tier

>>10954474
In Jordan's case I agree that politics are a big part of it, as his positioned himself against Trudeau. However, Greg is an actual scholar of political philosophy and again, doesn't utilize it for tantalizing the media. I suspect JP is doing more harm than good in the end by trying to make the weak the strong without being honest about his belief in God. Greg at least admits he is a Christian even though he isn't always 'on the best terms' with God. Of course yu are allowed to be centrist, just dont expect the overwhelming majority to willingly engage with the big picture. You probably know this if youve read the Republic. Just a few thoughts...

>>10954480
Nigga, he's an academic, not a literati
He ain't supposed to have pretty prose, just exact

>>10954510
>However, Greg is an actual scholar of political philosophy and again, doesn't utilize it for tantalizing the media.
I completely agree. I love Greg's work and agree that when it comes to philosophy he is miles ahead of Peterson when it comes to teaching.

>I suspect JP is doing more harm than good in the end by trying to make the weak the strong without being honest about his belief in God.
I can see why he does it, although it does irritate me. Unfortunately, if he was fully open about it, he would put off all the atheistic ideologues like me, which arguably are the kind of young men that need him most.

>Of course yu are allowed to be centrist, just dont expect the overwhelming majority to willingly engage with the big picture. You probably know this if youve read the Republic.
I understand what you're saying, and that's the problem - which is that these days being centrist is the political equivalent of being a fence-sitter or simply ambivalent. You're completely right when you say that it's difficult to engage with the big picture as a centrist, but I want to reiterate that it's at the fault of a polarized political climate - not a fault of centrism itself.

I can also assure you that if Greg received the same amount of media attention as Jordan he would be forced to pick a side. I sincerely hope he never has to be put in that position, because it would ruin his charm. Peterson, however, was always destined to be an orator of some sort just because of his personality.

>>10954396
Enjoy your ban

>>10954530
that's not a scientific text, it's a self-help book for brainlets

it should at least have the decency to try and be entertaining, and clearly it's trying to but failing

>>10954531
Let's not be fence sitters then-- a pure heart will's one thing. I do and don't hope for a dialogue between them because I imagine it going down like the Protagoras.

>>10954437
Peterson is also good if you are hopeless and all you need is someone you can bash in order to make it look like your life is not completely fucked up.

If you scroll through 4chan you can observe a number of psychological disabilities that can make you wonder why Peterson is hated. Just open any "what's on your mind" thread.

Maybe you all need him. You are just too proud to admit it.

>>10954601
People literally write to peterson saying that his videos 'saved their lives' even though he literally just says to people 'Clean your room' and 'sort yourself out'. It shows how weak modern men are,

>willingly brainwashing yourself and subscribing to a personality cult.

protip- if someone is on a stage, wearing a face-mic and giving you life advice.....don't listen to them and keep your wallet shut

>>10954613
Those are some ignorant requirements you have there.

>>10954413
As somebody who has never read Heidegger for hismelf, can you tell me what specifically is wrong with this? It made sense when I read it. Did he mis-represent the idea?

>>10954467
>he lies (often) to make a point, like in the channel4 interview where he lies about there being more women physicians than men
I don't remember him claiming this at all
>“I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world” — Matthew 13:35
Haha I cringed

>>10954476
There's nothing wrong with this and like any attempt at humour, people perceive it differently based on their own unconscious biases about the person. /lit/ tells you its cool to hate JP, you see a joke and therefore read all of that hatred into it.
You're a brainlet who does not know himself

>>10954542
/thread

>>10954645
someone should be able to lucidly explain their thoughts without resorting to such extravagant, cheap, lurid body-language that it would necessitate wearing a face-mic.
Ask yourself honestly if you would have felt so enthused about peterson's ideas if they were expressed by a morbid, monotone, immobile, non-descript being infront of a paltry audience of nobodies.

and keep your wallet shut. he doesn't need you buying his books (pdf's are free) or throwing money at his patreon.

Peterson impresses only brainlets who never read a real philosopher in their lives.

He is what Molyneux is to philosophy.
He is what Joe Rogan is to spirituality.
He is what McDonald's is to culinary art
He is what Alex Jones is to political thinking
etc.

>>10954456
everyone has an agenda.
are you implying if Gregory was in the same boat as Peterson he wouldn't do the same thing?

>>10954539
Some time off this site may do me some good.

>>10954560
I hope not.

>>10954613
I've yet to give Peterson money.

>>10954687
Every TED talk is bullshit then. Not to mention Peterson did very well at some of the rallies without a mic.

>>10954690
Alex Jones is unironically a political and business mastermind how dare you say such things

>>10954396
Will you also be converting to join us as a child of god?

>>10954613
so who do you listen to then by your standards?

>>10954607
then wouldn't that imply he doesn't go far enough?

>>10954704
I am implying that. Example-- Greg doesn't expect you to buy into stoicism. He even explicitly mentions where he diverges with them; among other philosphers likes and doesn't. Jordan, however, expects you to be a Jungian in good faith and never goes in detail critiquing or engaging with the post modern types he is oh so against.

>>10954542
>academic = scientific
I thought people had moved on from fedora tipping

>>10954467
>“I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world” — Matthew 13:35
Girard did it better

>it's ANOTHER Peterson bait thread

>>10954708
>every TED talk is bullshit then
Pretty much true.