/lit/ - Literature

>>10912789
One eye is watching you, the other eye is watching your mother.

Even more awful than Camus.

>>10912789
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, NO WONDER HE WAS A COMMIE, HOMIE NEEDED SOME HEIGHT HAHAHAHAHA

>>10912789
one eye on Husserl
one eye on Simone's cul

>>10912829
despite his ties with communism, he wasn't a commie

>>10912829
(((You)))

>>10912789
Heidegger was much the greater and more profound thinker. Sartre will be remembered for his literary work.

>>10912789
Can someone actually explain why Sartre is so universally shit on by /lit/? No one's ever explained why he sucks, they just say it like it's a given.

>>10913001

ey dude Fuck Off

>>10913001
He's a manlet

>>10912919
Uhhh sweetie that meme is old as fuck

>>10913477
>rating the validity of arguments on how funny they are
I'm leaving this place.

>>10913001
Sartre is the most hated intellectual in academia iirc.

>>10912789
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/sartre/comment/celine.htm

>>10913001
Read him and find out for yourself. If you can't even be bothered, u don't deserve to know

>>10913572
t.hasnt read him

>>10912829
Yeah and he dated a philosophical babe

>>10912829
Height is irrelevant, moron. It's socially conditioned, one only considers himself "tall" or "short" when using others for the comparison. Height is irrelevant for writing or philosophy.

>>10912919
>I've never read anything but the communist manifesto and my work experience consists of being a part time server to buy beer while my parents (bourgeois trash) pay for my humanities degree
>but let me tell you why I know communism, immigration, interbreeding, and universal gender reassignment is the solution to all our problems
College aged anythings are garbage.

>>10913698
hahahahahahahaha when will they fuckin learn

>>10913713

I can't tell who's side you're on and I like it

>>10913707

just wait until you realize that some college aged garbage raised by bourgeois trash don't give a shit about any of those solutions.

and then take a think about how you're a reactionary trying to solve the problem of college aged garbage.

and then realize that I'm eating cashews, pistachios, writing poetry, and eating a block of cheese whole while you care. while you so care.

this was fun i'm going to go over there and drink my milk now and read chapter 8 of the black tulip. wait. ch 9.

keep it up boss. you make the world go round.

Cèline on Sartre 1945

>Oh, I don’t wish little J. P. S. any harm! There where he is his fate is cruel enough! Since we’re talking about a homework assignment I would give him a seven out of a possible twenty and let’s not talk about it anymore . . . But on page 462 the little turd shocks me! The damned rotten asshole! What does he dare to write? “If Céline supported the socialist theses of the Nazis it’s because he was paid.” And I quote. Yes! This then is what this little dung-beetle wrote while I was in prison risking a hanging. Filthy little bastard full of shit, you come out from between my ass cheeks to soil me from outside! Cain anus ptooey! What are you hoping for? That they murder me! It’s obvious! Here! Let me squash you! Yes! . . . I see his photos, those bug eyes . . . that hook . . . that slobbering leech . . . he’s a cestode! What won’t he invent, this monster, so that they assassinate me! Barely out of my caca and he denounces me! What’s best is that on page 451 he has the venom to warn us: “A man who finds it natural to denounce men can’t have our notion of honor. He doesn’t even see those for whom he is a benefactor with our eyes; his generosity, his kindness is not like our kindness and generosity: it isn’t possible to localize passion.”

> I am forced to see J. P. S. only in the skin of an assassin, and even more, of a fucking police informant, cursed, hideous, a pain in the ass, rumor monger, a donkey in glasses. Here I am getting carried away! It’s not appropriate for my age or condition! . . . I was going to close here . . . disgusted, that’s all . . . I think it over . . . Assassin and brilliant? We’ve seen this before . . . After all . . . Maybe that’s the case with Sartre. An assassin he is, he wants to be one, that’s understood, but brilliant? Brilliant tiny turd of my ass? Hmmm? . . . That remains to be seen . . . yes, to be sure, that could blossom . . . make itself known . . . but J. B. S.? His embryo eyes? His mean and petty shoulders? That fat little gut . . . and philosopher! . . . that adds up to a lot of things

>>10913761
I don't think I like you, but we could probably be friends.

>>10913786
Classic Celine

>>10913795

fuck you stain why should I waste my time on you.

want some cranberries? they're dried crans

>>10913804
Even though they didn't last, my best friendships have been based in open hatred. And yes, I'd love some craisins.

>>10912789
you mean de based

>>10913819
Friends are for the weak

>>10913001
Existentialism is already dumb enough. Anyone who believes the essence of something can be its own teleological end probably likes to eat crayons.

>>10913819

well you must have been dealing in actual hatred then.
or with people who lack a degree of separation.
craisins are too sweet. these are cranberries.

>>10913826
I see the masks they put on have fooled you into a sense of reality.
if this is really your sentiment. you're the weak one.
or just absolutely revolting to be around.
they usually coincide.

>>10913831

holy shit this guy doesn't enjoy his tuesday crayons hahaha

>>10913833
You talk like a bitch with a pain up her snatch.

>>10913942

must be the gruyere

>>10913001
Literally everything he has ever done, literary and philosophical, is borrowed and he does it worse than the people he borrows from. The only original thing he did was try and marry existentialism and marxism, and it was only original because he's the only person dumb enough to try it because he's an ideology blinded hack.

>>10912789
>Current year
>Using your radical freedom to stir up shit on the internet

>>10913001
postmodernism babbling
>muh the hell are the others
>i am I because somebody watches me
>we are condemned to be free
555-comeonnow.jpg

>>10914823
Please actually read more than blurbs from someone before speaking about then thank you

>>10914831
i read a lot of satre, you should read marcuses critique on him

>>10914838
>i read a lot of satre

Well it doesn't show in your post

>>10914831
>>10914838
here http://www.marcuse.org/herbert/pubs/40spubs/48hmsartre.pdf

>>10914844
i am on the internet, i dont care to impress you

>>10914854
And you care to unimpress me? Get a grip

>>10914873
read marcuses critique

>>10914873
and clean your room

>>10912919
lmfao, this guy is posting maymays straight from 9gag

sartre is an ugly cross-eyed dwarf, that alone refutes him

>>10913542
>>10913572
>>10914823
Holy shit, I've never seen so many non-answers.

>>10914887
Obviously you haven´t read "Being and Nothingness"!

>>10914886
kant looked like the 56% meme

most philosophers aren't exactly lookers

>>10913698
(You)

>>10914914
>amerikant
kek

>>10913698
there has never been a tall dictator. they've all been under average height

>>10913526
>arguments
none were detected

>>10915048
Fidel Castro was like 6'3

>>10914882
and don’t forget to vacuum

>>10915522
That's because you don't know that an argument is another term for a point of view, because you haven't been to college, because you're a worthless fucking idiot.

>>10915556
*gently slides FSU art history diploma over to your awaiting eyes*
wanna run that by me one more time, darlin?

>>10915572
Many apologies. I didn't realize you were mentally handicapped.

>>10915539
Almost

>>10915642
Either way he was a big guy for you, especially in Cuba

>>10913001
Most of what is worth something about his philosophy is a dumbed down version of something Heiddeger had already said. But he's hated mostly because he was a hypocritical who defended the atrocities of communism and groomed and fucked little girls in the name of female empowerment.

>>10915652
>little girls
You know those "little girls" were taller than him, right? If anything he was the one being abused.

If existentialism is bullshit then whats a better philosophy? is this board actually full of religious mongs?

>>10915678
dialectical materialism

>>10915700
It should be evident by now that dialectical materialism either doesn't make sense or it isn't heading towards communism.

>>10915721
>isn't heading towards communism.
So? This fact just adds to its credibility.

>>10915721
>it isn't heading towards communism.
What are below replacement level birthrates

>>10915678
> is this board actually full of religious mongs

>>10915678
anarcho-feudalism

>>10915728
What did he mean by this

>>10915733
less people means higher income per capita

>>10915678
>is this board actually full of religious mongs

>>10915721
What the fuck do you know about what's going to happen. You realize that late stage capitalism won't last forever right? What do you think is going to come after capitalism? Here's a tip: not more capitalism.

>>10915741
Not necessarily whatsoever

>>10912789
werd

>>10915741
>less people means higher income per capita

>>10915733
capitalism destroys its basis

>>10915757
What did he mean by this

>>10915755
net income per capita = world net income/world population

if population goes down and world net income stays constant, net income per capita rises

>>10915772
Untrue economically, you seem to be totally ignorant of economies of scale. Population increase can mean exponential increase of total wealth which means average income actually increases in proportion to population
This is basic stuff Anon, you have a very retarded idea of economics

>>10915733
economy relies on growth to function
negative population replacement levels means growth stops if you don't augment productivity
old people become a problem
productivity augmentation may hit a wall
BAM!
>>10915772
tasty bait

>>10915785
If we could just kill all the old people who live off the adults tax money the world would become richer. Also capitalists rob me my surplus-value, so total wealth my ass.

>>10915810
>Also capitalists rob me my surplus-value

>>10915805
This is true and the debt bubble by definition has to hit a wall eventually. It does not for a moment suggest Communism as an alternative however.
My own expectation is global collapse and chaos and return to a new normal in which capitalism lives on. If we're lucky

>>10915757
>>10915805
Capitalism has reshaped itself countless times and this time it won't be different. Now it will just focus more and more in automation. Communism just wasn't meant to happen.

>>10915839
this.

capitalism can adapt to every change

>>10915805
t. Solow

And growth relies on technology, which isn´t explained in common growth theory

>>10915835
i don't see any other solution, I'm not even a commie btw and I think there's plenty of room for growth before we hit a wall (the third world, the solar system to colonize). The only other way out of this is if we start massproducing humans (and even that has its problems)
>>10915839
this time might be different

>>10913831
this

>>10915860
One solution is shifting the suffering onto the third world while we establish a self reliant white ethno-state

>>10914823
how is any of that post-modernism? I hate Sartre btw

>>10915860
You're are making a mistake in trying to solve the problems of the future with the means of the present.

>>10915721
>tfw Marx was right about dialectical materialism but wrong about communism being the next step in history
>tfw there are still people out there convinced that any day now communism will become a reality

>>10915878
On the one hand he deconstructs subjectivity towards a more structural idea of freedom, but on the other hand he relies on concepts of his role-playing models to explain phenomenons like antisemitism( one chooses to be an antisemite). However, he has no real concept of human freedom and just explores the possibilities and limits like choice theory does.

>>10915896
The future of the future is the present. But our average experience conceals the present in the familiarity of the past

http://arcsrv.crystalide.net/archives/r9ktpo2o/9xapi5bb/dwnld5/ptcj03lj.pdf

>>10915728
>unless you divide groups by ideology, in which case conservatives outbreed liberals
>this results in cyclic generational trends

>>10916277

>To the Nutcase
based

>>10916277
What did he mean by calling Jean-Baptiste instead of Jean-Paul, was it just jokingly forgetting his name?

>>10916334
i think he means it in a sarcastic way calling him https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_Baptist

Daily reminder that "it wasn't real socialism" is a meme and that western intellectuals openly embraced Mao and Stalin back in the day.

>>10915671
It's ok, his wife was the one holding them down for the rapes. Not even joking.

>>10916277
thank you for posting this

>>10916670
>Sartre was one of the last western intellectuals to advocate communism and defend the USSR even when its atrocities were known and documented
based indeed, he might have been the last one to acknowledge the needless deaths of millions of human lives, but maybe he was also the first to go "it wasn't real communism" in turn?

>>10916704
He probably just didn't care. He was an actual toad and didn't give a shit about human life

>>10915642
Looks like his height genes were past on to his son.

>>10916713
>His """father""" is listed as 5'10, in reality more like 5'8

The memes are real

>>10915747
>What do you think is going to come after capitalism? Here's a tip: not more capitalism.

>>10913761
you type like a fag lol

>>10916670

I can generally tolerate extremist politics in my authors, I love Mishima after all, but something about these communist twats just rubs me the wrong way.

>>10915048
huh what about drumpf pol faggot

>>10916704
>>10916670
"State capitalism would be a step forward as compared with the present state of affairs in our Soviet Republic. If in approximately six months’ time state capitalism became established in our Republic, this would be a great success and a sure guarantee that within a year socialism will have gained a permanently firm hold and will have become invincible in this country. - Lenin 1918"

"In myopinion, nothing has contributed so much to thecorruption of the original idea of socialism as the belief that Russia is a socialist country and that every act of its rulers must be excused, if not imitated. - George Orwell"

>>10918324
Yes, libertarian socialists didn't like the USSR.
I assure you plenty of communists and socialists were defending the USSR as a socialist state while it was in good shape.

>>10913556
This

>>10918493
yeah retards

>>10918493
As someone born in USSR, I'm quite curious about when exactly this "good shape" was.

>>10915048
mussolini was actually above average heigh for the time

>>10913001
you're not supposed to take seriously what people write on the internet

>>10913761
Cool.

>>10912789
>Becomes a commie because he thinks that money hinders people from truly being free
>Supports communist dictatorships that literally removes people's freedom to do anything they want
Nah man, philosophically he was alright despite knicking all of his ideas from Kirkegaard, politically he was a fucking tool. Also /turbomanlet/

>>10917476
You're probably just right-wing and a little emotional.

>>10913761
ive never seen anyone type this femininely.

>>10913698
This is unironically wrong. Think about it, if the laboratory of philosophy is the mind then why would one's physical sense of self not influence the psyche that facilitates said philosophical thought? Every experience and facet of a philosopher finds it's way into the philosophy.

>>10915747
It's going to be some crazy world with superintelligent AI running everything. Hopefully a post-scarcity utopia akin to the Culture novels. Though it could just as likely destroy us all.

>>10912789
I hate Sartre more than any other writer.

>>10920658
What about Kate Millett?

>>10913761
was this meant to be a joke?

>>10913707
>communism
>immigration, interbreeding, and universal gender reassignment
>Unironically believing in a connection between these things

>>10920882

>>10920892
>QED!!!
do you genuinely want me to start giving examples of immigrants, mixed-race people and transgenders who aren't communists

>>10913761
This is a quality post

>>10920882
Communism is based around dividing things into worker and borgie.
Feminism is based around dividing things into men and women.
Nazism is based around dividing things into German and nonGerman.

The connection is that they are all Hegelian and pursue spooks like history, race or class as a source of meaning in life instead of valuing people. They don't treat individual people as valuable but just means to an end.

>>10920707
women are not writers.

>>10913761
>bourgeois trash
Do they own a factory or some other means of production?

>>10920707
Kate Millett is a hero. Truly one of the most radical thinkers of the 20th century and in spite of not being so well know she was more influential than almost any of her peers.

>>10913831
>the universe has an end
Cuck.

>>10921142

bourgeois in the modern context includes skilled professionals with 401k’s and stock portfolios, money market accounts etc

the professional upper middle class live essentially the same existence as the bourgeoisie of 19th century Amer-Fra-Germ-UK

>>10919013
The "good days" were when it was still feasible for Pulitzer prize winner Will Duranty to deny Stalin's deliberate starvation of Ukraine. Western intellectuals were mesmerized by stalin's forced industrialization of russia, his fight against Hitler, and all the carefully planned tours of the soviet union he took them on. Many of them did not abandon the Soviet Union until the late 50s, and even then you still had idiots like Bertrand Russel who thought the soviet missiles in Cuba were fake news. Authoritarian socialist states always look promising at first, hence why Foucault embraced the iranian theocracy in the early 80s, Agnes Smedley Mao when he was still a rebel living in caves, and Chomsky and Naomi Klein Chavez when he first assumed power.

>>10914838
>Marcuse's critique of Sartre

>>10913001
Well free will isn't real for one most of what he claims is already wrong from the very start.
"Condemned to be free" my ass.

>>10915678
>he has a name for his philosophy
>it can be classified
Haha holy shit.

>>10921937
It's real hermeneutically

>>10921280
>with 401k’s and stock portfolios, money market accounts etc
If a retirement plan makes you bourgeois then any developed country janitor who saves money in his bank account is bourgeois. Which is somewhat legitimate if you take the chief class conflict in the modern world as being between developed and undeveloped countries. But it is a very different point of view from the traditional Marxist ideas of conflict between bourgeois and workers.

>>10915721
the world is going to shit either way, longread but very informative
http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/280/1754/20122845.short