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Maybe it's just because I'm an educated engineer and have an above average IQ, but have you ever read this book and thought about how astonishing it is that people actually believe it?

Taken purely metaphorically, I think it offers some decent ethics, but anyone who seriously bases their life around it honestly looks as silly to me as someone trying to base their life around Platonism or Hellenism

>> No.10841622

>>10841615
people also believe that if you take any population on earth, it will be exactly identical in mental capacities to any other population on earth, despite no evidence for this, and wild variation on any other trait you could pick. Not only do they believe this they think it is the height of evil to not believe it

ie. people are incredibly fucking dumb

>> No.10841649

>>10841622
>My skull is sexier than yours therefore I must be superior to you in some way.
t. stormnigger

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>>10841615
M'lady

>> No.10841654

>>10841615
Its astonishing to me that somebody can form this dull and simplistic a view of religion and claim to be in any way educated

>> No.10841657

>>10841649
and then they react this way to basic logic lmao

>> No.10841661

>>10841654
This.

>> No.10841666

>>10841654
it's astonishing to me that people who haven't even learnt greek and latin claim to be in any way educated

>> No.10841677

>>10841657
>basic logic lol
>reject scientific consensus for my neo-racialist pseudo-science ascribed to mostly by contemporary white supremacists

>> No.10841683

>>10841677
yeah but nobody ever addresses what i said in my post there. They might come up with some absolutely feeble excuse like 'intelligence is polygenic' as though things like height weren't also

you are memed lad. you are a Christian denying evolution, just in the more subtle fashion of 'men are created equal'

>> No.10841700

>>10841683
The fact that people like yourself are so strung over this one issue which even according to your own arguments are speculative at best and have been largely rejected for that reason should be telling. It's not about trying determine truth for all to know but to place a specific group on a pedestal and trample others indefinitely.

>> No.10841708

>>10841700
The data places East asians and Ashkenazi Jews on the 'pedestal', not your scary white supremacists.

Forget that though it's the fact that people will with a straight face say 'it is impossible to measure intelligence' and then simultaneously 'but we are positive that all groups have the same intelligence'

How can you not see how fucking hard you've been memed

>> No.10841712

>>10841708
Still placed someone. Again speculative and not substantiable like what can be determined.

>> No.10841715

>>10841712
now we meet the 'impossibly high burden of proof that would invaldiate all social science were it universally demanded' stage of the argument

my sides

>> No.10841717

>>10841683
This is exactly on point, enlightenment values are purely christian. Bastardized christian ideals with no sense for the metaphysical, therefore doomed to fail.
The idea that every human is equal will fade out anyways as everything follows technological progress whether we like it or not. And a technological society will not habilitate those who don't show the required caracteristics for it to grow. People with lower IQs are already falling out in this system. Techne doesn't bother itself with morality or equality. I'm absolutely not racist and against technological progress, but crying about it won't stop it, we need to take action. Leftists are fucking useless and actually accelerating this process, while right wingers are simply dumb. We're fucked. I hope politiczed faggots will be the first to go once the machine overlords take over.

>> No.10841718

>>10841708
Also le plagiarizing jews and chinks
>Why don't you marry an honorary aryan /pol/?

>> No.10841721 [DELETED] 

>>10841712
When people of African descent have only been literate for around 100 years, compared to the 500-1000 years of literary in Europe and Asia how can you deny that SOMETHING is off?

>> No.10841723

>>10841654
fuck off peterson

>> No.10841736

You're not nearly as smart as you think you are.

>> No.10841743

>>10841717
The fact that your traditional monarchies haven't been able to create anything beyond their backwards mudhut fiefdoms is evidence enough for their inferiority. The ideas of a futuristic monarchical empires are a possibility only within the world of Anime fiction.

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>>10841615

>> No.10841754

>>10841743
lmao what?

>> No.10841757

>>10841736
I don't think I'm that intelligent, but years of math classes and reading philosophy taught me to think logically and critically, which is more than what most people are capable of. Just by virtue of having a master's in engineering, I'm more intelligent than the majority of the population

>> No.10841759

>>10841743
Did you even reply to the right post?

>> No.10841764

>>10841757

I can't imagine why you thought anybody would be interested in reading this

>> No.10841768

>>10841764
okay

>> No.10841770

>>10841757
>engineering
your local pajeet has the same degree. Don't overestimate yourself with modern certifications, engineering degrees are a dime a dozen these days.

>> No.10841776

>>10841759
le future is going to be governed by intellectual elites totally not like as has happened already

>> No.10841782

>>10841653
What's the point of this meme

>> No.10841783

>>10841770
Indians are some of the dumbest, laziest fucks there are. Getting a degree with a 2.50 GPA like they do doesn't count in my eyes.

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>>10841757
>I design mechanisms for a living, bible is fake lmao trust me

>> No.10841787

>>10841615
>wow people who have faith sure are stupid huh
>nope, i got nothing else to say, just boy what dopes they are oh yea btw muh high IQ

bait thread, if serious kys op

>> No.10841788

>>10841776
le future will not be governed as humans will be replaced by automated AI that will organize itself efficiently.
>>10841757
you're as dumb as the rest. I don't mean offense but nature intended that only a few 'priviliged' could think. 99.99% of this board is as useless as a chinese janitor. True thinkers are one in a million.

>> No.10841794

>>10841783
of course it wouldn't, otherwise it wouldn't be convenient for you to strut your degree around with you

>> No.10841798

>>10841708
Never been a part of this political dick waving, but have to agree with this Anon it's kind of ridiculous.

Would've been nice to see some solid arguments against him and not just people trying to seem smart without adding to the conversation.

>> No.10841800

>>10841788
It could still be considered to qualify as an intellectual elite or of superior intellect. Again with this "Sons of Liberty" Patriots AI like scenario it's something extant in the realm of Japanese fiction.

>> No.10841806

>>10841783
the fact that they even set the bar that low kind of dismantles that artificial prestige of yours

>> No.10841809

>>10841800
>something extant in the realm of Japanese fiction
It used to be my point of view until I grew up and started reading deleuzian and landian philosophy.

>> No.10841810

>>10841770
>engineering degrees are a dime a dozen these days.
You do realize that tech degrees per capita has decreased dramatically since the cold war right?

The job market has also shrunk, but there are less engineering degree holders per capita today than there was in the 70s.

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>>10841810
>Good morning sir, my name is Solomon Nze'bangwe and I am the head engineer overlooking this site

>> No.10841835

>>10841829
Thank you Solomon, well met. And let me just say I'm so glad to have a hard working, educated man in charge rather than some half-wit day wanker posting on /lit/ about books we read in high-school.

>> No.10841842

>>10841809
Credit could be given to Kojima for predicting the current circumstances of the mideast though I really have no clue on what other material he may have taken influence from.

Still going back to the discussion that started at the top of the thread, the insistence of promoting stratification of society is probably something with more ulterior and worldly motives than about truly enlightening society. And the fact that stratified societies like the traditional monarchies have ended up being surpassed by purposedly egalitarian societies is possible proof of modern societies' superiority to older forms of government.

>> No.10841850

>>10841835
Tfw when the literature enthusiast fulfills your wife's needs that are left vacant by your cold mechanical infertility while you're at work.

>> No.10841857

>>10841850
>tfw when

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>>10841615
Saint Augustine wrote seventeen centuries ago that the bible offers levels of understanding so from the plebeian to the erudite, all will find an appropriate depth and meaning.

>> No.10841874

>>10841842
This is pure enlightenment ideology. Something coming afterwards doesn't make it better or superior, only in western thought this huge fallacy is considered logical. Enlightenment will state that a nuclear fallout is obviously superior to pre-nuclear warfare as it could only precede the fallout! If it were truly better then pre-nuclear fallout would've. It is opposite to EVERY other currents of thoughts, ideologies, religions and metaphysics. And here we are, witnessing the decline of civilization.
>the insistence of promoting stratification of society is probably something with more ulterior and worldly motives than about truly enlightening society.
This we cannot know for sure. But if we were to be honest and listen to those coming from these 'traditional' societies, they would argue the opposite. Western though vs eastern 'traditionalist' thought is completely antagonistic. Except we haven't explained why it is this way, while Hindus did.

>> No.10841878

>>10841870
Oh well we should take his word for it. Considering his lack of possible bias and all.

>> No.10841944

>>10841874
Well most of this promulgation of racialist rhetoric that is being popularly discussed seems primarily concerned with a western perspective.
Modern societies may be better because they achieved greater societal and scientific advancement. Also has a precedent in the societies of the medieval period when compared to the classical world and how humanity has sought to restore classical values and has held them in high esteem. It's more complex than something simply coming afterwards.

>> No.10842256

>>10841850
I don't believed you've filled anything more than sock in your life time sorry Anon.

>> No.10842287

>>10841829
>great worl solomon, as a reward i will be in the cuckshed this time instead of watching