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What are some good rightwing thinkers? I have taken a look at the traditionalists (Guénon, Evola, etc.) and they seem mere lunatics. I like Chesterton's and Belloc's distributism, but it seems more like an aesthetic movement than a real philosophy.

What are some truly interesting rightwing writers?

>> No.10757380

>>10757374
stefan molyneux

>> No.10757382

>>10757374

Confucius

>> No.10757387

>>10757374
basically everyone who would qualify as a thinker is right-wing. all major philosophers and writers, just take your pick.

>> No.10757392

>>10757387
this
op, start with derrida

>> No.10757395

>>10757374
William Burroughs.

>> No.10757397

Thomas Hobbes, David Hume, Samuel Johnson, Thomas Carlyle, de Maistre, Pobedonostsev, Ralph Adams Cram

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10757540

>>10757374
>what are people that won't challenge my viewpoints
cancer

>> No.10757571

>>10757374
>what are people that won't challenge my viewpoints
kill yourself.
>guénon right wing
kill yourself
>cannot think outside of political buzzwords,
kill yourself
>cannot fathom people articulating their thoughts outside mainstream dogma
K K K K Kkkkill yourself
>reducing everything to CIA approved dialectics
american

>> No.10757583

>>10757540
This, OP. I was a stupid neo-marxist pseudo-anarchist SJW before I looked into conservatism, fascism, metapolitics and such things. My worldview was challenged and I grew through it, now my political beliefs are much less ideologically tainted and emotional than before. It'll probably work for you too, try to confront yourself with the other side's intellectual framework (and I don't mean gender studies) and grow.

>> No.10757591

>>10757583
>i am better for leaving one cultural millieu and entering another
Fucking skiddies

>> No.10757624

>>10757591
I haven't entered the other though. Confronting you with the opposition and genuinely trying to learn from them will strip away much of what is illogical and unfounded about your worldview and you will be forced to develop your own line of thinking, hold specialised believes about specialised topics for the sake of reason, not out of sympathy with one or the other side of a cultural war. Drawing from many different sources and trying to integrate seemingly opposed perspectives, always trying to find the flaw in your own, is the only way I can think of to develop a mature political opinion.

>> No.10757638

Jordan Peterson
Joe Rogan
Milo Yianopolous
Richard Spencer
Alex Jones
Donald Trump

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10757642

Psst, hey kids

Wanna learn some free market economics?

>> No.10757643

>>10757624
Sorry I misunderstood. You are right, but do you think the culture war is as important as, say the control of resources and the use of force? I find it hard to deny the concept of realpolitik.

>> No.10757649

Unironically Mencius Moldbug

>> No.10757658

>>10757540
Wanting to know rightwing thought does not necessarily mean that someone wants to read people that doesn't challenge his viewpoints, fag.

>> No.10757668

>>10757374
>but it seems more like an aesthetic movement than a real philosophy.
>implying that's not what all philosophies are

>> No.10757674

No one's mentioned Edmund Burke so I'll drop it here

>> No.10757729

>>10757374
Ted Kaczynski
Ludwig von Mises
Sam Hyde
Jordan Peterson
weev
Ayn Rand

>> No.10757731

>>10757540

Ironically strawmaning is the ultimate tool of brainlets in argumentation.

>> No.10757740

>>10757731
his post was meta-satire you pseud

>> No.10757751

>>10757638
sargon of akkad

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10757752

>>10757374

Pic related is fiction but still worth the read.

>> No.10757758

>>10757374
Spengler, Schmitt, de Maistre, Rousseau, Machiavelli, Hobbes, Burke, Chesterton, Carlyle and honestly Nietzsche/Schopenhauer

im sorry you read Guenon and Evola anon, that’s almost as bad as Rosenberg, Lanz, Hitler, Goebbels

read the aforementioned, i promise minimal lunacy

>> No.10757761

>>10757740

>only pretending, etc.

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>>10757751
i think liberalistism is radical centrist

>> No.10757765

>>10757758
>Spengler,
Spengler doesn't even believe in praxis, he sees history as being entirely predetermined in stages, like the growth of an organism.

The only right wing thing about Spengler is that he thinks civilizations decline, and that the West began its decline sometime in the past couple hundred years.

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>>10757758

>Rosenberg

He was the only civilian executed after the Nuremberg faux trials. That alone points to his intellectual depth, if he was simply mad with nothing real to say he would simply be left alone and perhaps even highlighted to expose Nazi insanity. Instead however he was executed and his works were suppressed expressly because the intellectual and persuasive nature of his works. The myth of the 20th itself gave me what seemed like a religious experience and I would highly recommend it to anyone with any level of positive view towards white racial "in-groupism".

He wasn't murdered for spouting madness, he was murdered because of a pervasive fear of truth. Pic very related.

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>>10757758

>big M

>right winged

>> No.10757805

>>10757782
>The Great War, as the beginning of a world revolution in all domains, has
revealed the tragic fact that, although millions sacrificed their lives, this
sacrifice was to the advantage of forces other than those for which the armies
were ready to die. The dead of the war were victims of a catastrophic epoch
that had lost all its values, but at the same time—and this is something which
begins to be grasped in Germany today, even if so far by few—the martyrs of a
new dawn, of a new faith. The blood which died, begins to live. In its mystical
sign the cells of the German Folkish soul renew themselves. Past and present
suddenly appear in a new light, and for the future there results a new mission.
History and the task of the future no longer signify the struggle of class against
class or the conflict between one church dogma and another, but the settlement
between blood and blood, race and race, Folk and Folk. And that means: the
struggle of spiritual values against each other.

THis is very romantic and all, but reading this in 2018 when I am aware of what Germany has become makes it seem ridiculous

>> No.10757822

>>10757805

Why is it rediculous? If anything what he said is more true than ever. Do you think the white men who fought in ww1 and 2, who would be extraordinarily conservative by modern standards, would be happy with the modernist state of the world? Would they support sex positivity, LGBTQ alliances, mass ethnic migrations into white countries, the movement away from Christian moral values, etc.? Hell no they wouldn't, they would (and did) as a group support politics that put the 2018's alt-right to shame and yet the wars themselves have been used in propaganda to push these very values, that is to say the wars have contributed to a political system that would nauseate the white men who sacrificed so much in the wars.

>> No.10757826

>>10757782
this is rhetoric not deductive reason, the cutest part is that anyone with training in formal logic can see that you’re lying on purpose and using the word truth and a picture of Socrates who the rw fucking despised to sell that a racialist propagandist who created the race laws and also pushed for genocide wasn’t killed for creating insane idealist race laws and pushing for genocide, you should cut down vertically friend
>>10757765
>praxis
lol stop using stolen words friend, you aren’t a leftist go away lol

>> No.10757828

>>10757822
What you just said is precisely why it's ridiculous. Where is the German spirit now? Their country is flagellating itself in front of Islam and African savages. The men are emasculated and the women are childless whores. Hedonism and guilt are the national values.

Talking about Aryan blood and mystic historical processes just seems absurd in the face of that

>> No.10757835

>>10757826
praxis means '"action oriented towards changing society'' per your own Leftists dude. Stop crying because you can't control everything people say

>> No.10757840

>>10757826

He didn't promote genocide, he promoted the spiritual growth of the white race. If anything that's the reverse of genocide and is to be commended as the highest possible virtue.

>> No.10757844

>>10757828
IT WAS THE JEWS THEY WEAKENED THE IDEALIST MAGIC MIASMA SPIRIT OF THE PURE BLOODED RACE AND YES WE BELIEVE THAT BLOOD IS THE BASIS FOR BEHAVIOR BUT NO IT WASNT AN INHERIT INFERIORITY OR WEAKNESS OF PURE NORDIC PONTIC STEPPE ARYAN GOD MAN HYPERBOREAN BLOOD IT WAS EVIL JEWISH MAGIC TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE INHERENT ALTRUISM OF THE NOBLE WHITE RACE BUT THEYRE ACTUALLY NOT ALTRUIST THATS A LIE ANTIWHITR SHILL LIE GIVE MONEY TO YOUR LOCAL TRAD WN GROUP MARRY WHITE OR ASIAN GOY HAHA GOY THATS WHAT THE JEWS CALL US GOY AND JEWS RUN THE WORLD AND ALL THE WEALTH EVEN THO THEY DONT WE SAID THEY DO AND ALL THESE THINKERS WERE RW LIT HAS ALWAYS BEEN RW ARYANS ARE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE UNTIL A BLACK PERSON IS BETTER LOOKING AND ANGLOS ARE PURE ARYAN SAXON STOCK THE SAXON AWAKES BRÜDER MEIN KAMP MEIN FUHRER SIEG HEIL 14/88 MOM CAN I HAVE SOME MONEY? I LOVE BEING AN ENGINEER

>> No.10757846

>>10757758
>guénon is bad fascist right wing who eats black jewish children
read some guénon lol he's incredibly insightful. the first traditionalist and none of the politicized bullshit evola rants about

>> No.10757848

>>10757840
>He didn't promote genocide
>he promoted the spiritual growth of the white race
kek

>> No.10757852

>>10757828

Because they were defeated and their country was desecrated it's absurd to talk about history and genetics? How does this follow logically? Please explain. Sounds like you're the propagandist here who simply wants to inhibit the discussion of things that make you feel bad.

>> No.10757853

>>10757844
>ND YES WE BELIEVE THAT BLOOD IS THE BASIS FOR BEHAVIOR
Im absolutely not a political larper but you realize the elite have been keeping their bloodlines pure for thousands of years? I'm sure it's just because..

>> No.10757857

>>10757835
no its a term for furthering the revolution against capital not allowing capital to officially rule over humanity as livestock like in corporate fascist states kys sub
>>10757840
he explicitly promoted genocide in writing multiple times and helped formulate the race laws that sent hundreds of thousands of germans to their deaths and millions of jews, you should go to an Islamic state and whip your dick out in public so someone can give you the clean noble aryan death by beheading that you deserve mein kameraden Hans Fritz mcBlack Magic Forest druid blood drinker snow nigger history stealer fake Aryan

>> No.10757860

>>10757853
i know its called rhetoric, i was making commentary on how idealism is not compatible with materialism and that the racialism of the rw is grounded in idealism with the false trappings of materialism to cover up the fact that the Germanics are not the master race by any standard of fitness at all

>> No.10757863

>>10757853
Guenon is fucking garbage Jesuit-Islamic propaganda and his critique of theosophy is grounded in nothing but ressentiment hypocrisy and jealousy. anyone who reads Guenon or Evola should kill themselves

>> No.10757865

>>10757857
>furthering the revolution against capital
That would fall under the category of 'action oriented towards changing society' you fucking retard.

I mentioned it wrt to Spengler because he sees any such action as impossible, meaning he doesn't prescribe Reactionary or Revolutionary politics.

>> No.10757869

>>10757857

The Nazis supported movement of Jews to Israel long before the Holohoax even supposedly happened, proving they were first and foremost interested in removing Jews from their society and not necessarily in bloody vengeance. Imagine a pot of kettle that slowly rose to a boil for 20 years. Now imagine there are people in that pot, and they were given the option to leave the pot, yet the stayed precisely because they have the mission of subverting this pot. "But you can leave, I'll pay you to leave and supply the means for you to do so" says the pot owner. "no fuck you" says the pot-people. That's the Jews in prewar Germany.

Unfortunately they won out in the end but you really can't sympathize with them for whatever may or may not have happened.

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>>10757860

>the Germans were defeated by Germanic-Americans therefore Germans are not the master race

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>>10757879
>Germanic-Americans

>> No.10757903

>>10757894

Race mixing barely happened at all before the 60s (and what little did happen resulted in a drift of white genetics into the black African genetic pool, not vice-versa, because mixed race people were themselves much more likely to identify with and breed with blacks). White Americans average about 0.2% black DNA and blacks contributed roughly nothing to the war effort. Try again.

>> No.10757920

There is not a single living right-wing thinker that is taken seriously by anyone. Conservatives look up to pundits and anyone further right looks up to genuine lunatics. Respectable right-wing ideology died in the 20th century, probably with Karl Popper being one of the last legitimate conservative people with something of substance to say.

>> No.10757928

>>10757920
yeah that's a sign that we live in a totalitarian Leftist society, that's not a knock on Right wing thinkers

>> No.10757933

>>10757920

This is the view of a hardcore left wing ideologue. Get out of your bubble friendo. It will be painful at first but will ultimately enrich your life. Modernist diversity of flesh is itself materialistic and vile, diversity of ideas is so much more virile and beneficial to us as a race.

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>>10757920

>a Jew that wrote "The Open Society and Its Enemies" is a right-winger

>> No.10757956

>>10757945
>The Open Society and Its Enemies
A clearly conservative book.

If you think hating Jews and opposing liberal democracy is required for you to be a right-winger, you belong in the group that follows lunatics.

>> No.10757957

>>10757956
>liberal democracy
literally radical Leftism dude

>> No.10757965

>>10757374
>the traditionalists (Guénon, Evola, etc.) seem mere lunatics
sounds like you don't enjoy right wing thought, have you really considered what you believe or just what you assume you do?

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>>10757956

>if you think opposing liberalism is required to be a right-winger you're a lunatic

>> No.10757973

>>10757658
Lets be honest, do you really think OP is an honest person looking for good authors and not some /pol/ alt-righter trying to add vocabulary to his bigotry?

>> No.10757977

>>10757374
There's no such thing as a right wing intellectual. Outside of reactionary forums nobody takes Evola and the likes seriously. Tell anyone in academia you like him and they will laugh at your face. Intellectualism and the arts have always belong to the left. There's a reason why they are called liberal arts after all.

>> No.10757981

>>10757879
Durr hurr that’s what he said
>the US army was 100% Saxon stock Anglos and Germans no poles or Irish or Italians fought in the war
>durr hurr that’s the poster i was replying to said, im so fucking stupid i don’t see that im saying Germans are weaker than jews and mutts durr hurr im high on ideology and think im clever but im just a dumb attack dog for the rw european deep state that’s been pushing the alt right meme through psyops and planted agents for the last 10 years durr hurr im dumb cattle durr hurr durrrr
>>10757865
yes, you’re fucking retarded i know. you’re dumb as shit i know thanks sweetie here’s a (You) go LARP as NAAAAAzbowl now on twitter have a field day, haha RT
>>10757869
no not really it was just a public stance they always wanted to exterminate the Jews, Goebbels and Rosenberg wrote about it in the early 30’s and other protoNazis like Lanz and Haushofer had suggested the Holocaust as an occult racial cleansing of the caucasoid race for decades you’re just lying to someone whose done more research than you and understands formal logic
>durr if i say the SS end of war propaganda if i say the truth ministry propaganda to the informed researcher who knows im saying SS propaganda it’ll work
>hey goy didn’t you know the jews were shooting Goymens with their yarmulke lazers and were rayping Goymen women with their 4” kike penises in the steetd! Poles was moydowing Goymens too! we had to kill them (if we even did goy, mind you if we allegedly did the thing we definitely did) it was in self defense didn’t you know the master race is vulnerable and has to act in self defense against big strong parasite untermensch
wow its like im 16 and stupid wow that makes so much sense i can’t think for myself or research that you’re lying and that this is called in the study of political propaganda, black propaganda mixed with grey propaganda, really makes a stupid goy think wow im so dumb haha daddy instruct my dumb goy mind into being an upright E R E C T aryan

>> No.10757982

>>10757973
>bigotry?
lol. Would you mind defining 'bigotry' for me

>> No.10757985

>>10757957
>>10757972
Your brains have been literally corroded by American politics. Make an effort to deprogram yourselves.

>> No.10757987

>>10757658
Considering OP is using Dr. Stud's twitter avatar, I can guarantee you hes just an alt righter trying to justify his beliefs with "intellectuals"

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>>10757973
>Chesterton was an alt-right bigot

>> No.10757993

Thomas Sowell

>> No.10757995

>>10757987
>Pepe Junior is Dr Stud’s avi
you should fucking kys dude

>> No.10757997

>>10757374
Daily reminder that if you're conservative scum you should kill yourself.

>> No.10758004

>>10757987
>Dr. Stud's twitter avatar
I'm OP and I have no fucking idea who "Dr. Stud" is. I just saw that Pepe here and added it to my collection.

>> No.10758006

>>10757985
>American politics
it's entirely Leftism. Let me clue you in here m8, the normal political forms for most of history were things like Monarchy, Aristocracy, Feudalism, etc. 'democracy' is an aberration, and is sure to end soon.

Also it is laughable that you're telling us to deprogram ourselves. your views earn you gold stars at university and the NYT, our views are ostracized. But yeah we're the programmed ones

>> No.10758007

Theodore Dalrymple

>> No.10758011

>>10758006
>the normal political forms for most of history were things like Monarchy, Aristocracy, Feudalism, etc. 'democracy' is an aberration, and is sure to end soon
See? I bet you love Evola, which is exactly what I meant by you being a fucking loonie.

>> No.10758017

>>10758011
Nice argument, oh wait you didn,t present an argument at all, as usual. And I dont give a shit about Evola

>> No.10758020

>>10757982
>Oh wow, that podcast where they say nigger and kike all the time is really funny and now I agree with them!
>Oh, but now I have cognitive dissonance, because I know racism and antisemitism is retarded, but its really fun!
>I know, I'll misread a few books by fringe authors and pretend thats how I came to my conclusion!

This is how 100% of alt righters come to believe what they do

>> No.10758024

>>10757977
>who are Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Mario Vargas Llosa,...

>> No.10758027

>>10758020
you didn't define bigotry, I assume you don't know what it means, and you think that 'deplatforming' is consistent with anti-bigotry.

Also racism is incredibly obvious. Everybody before the 1920s was hyper racist, and all the test ever done on race differences point towards racism being true.

>> No.10758029

>>10757985

I'm not even American. I was raised by liberal atheists in a very liberal environment in maybe the single most "progressive" liberal country on this planet. But keeping making assumptions there mr. Brainlet.

>> No.10758033

>>10757920

I think the pundits and lunatics are winning. It's hard to beat pure volume in a conversation.

>> No.10758035

>>10758029
I didn't call you an American.

>> No.10758036

>>10757993

Based.

>> No.10758040

Georges Sorel (fascist/ integral nationalist)
Werner Sombart
Heidegger
Ernst Junger
Giovanni Gentile
Thomas Carlyle
Cicero
Alexis de Tocqueville
Jose Ortega

>> No.10758042

>>10757540
>durr you shouldn't pursue your ideas further
10 bucks says you wouldn't have made this comment if OP had asked for leftwing thinkers.

>> No.10758044

>>10758027
>racism being true
Yes, but still very undefined. Race as an overall biological concept regardless of species is never very precise.

>> No.10758048

>>10757571
>Using dialectics in a nonsensical way
teenage commies fuck off

>> No.10758050

>>10757540
>Rightism doesn't challenge your viewpoints
What if came from a left wing or liberal background? Where does this meme that rightism is just the status quo of every society come from?

>> No.10758051

>>10758024
Tolstoy was a leftist and Dostoevsky was a great writer because of his psychological insight , not because of his political believes, which were deeply anti-intellectual and the sections of his work that can be considered right wing are not artistic but propagandist. I haven't read Vargas Llosa but I'd guess it's the same case. He may be a right winger in his private and political life but I'd bet his art, at least what is good about it, must be leftist. It's just what it is. Art is always leftist even if it's made by a right winger and right wing "art" is always propaganda.

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>>10757826
>lol stop using stolen words friend, you aren’t a leftist go away lol
Alright, then you give back the dialectics, punk

>> No.10758054

>>10758027
>Everybody before the 1920s was hyper racist
The entire concept of race as we understand it today was invented entirely in the mid-19th century, genius

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>>10757374
What's the point? I'm going to die. The world is going to end. The universe is also likely going to end. Why bother, and how do I get rid of these thoughts?

>> No.10758062

>>10758051
>He may be a right winger in his private and political life but I'd bet his art, at least what is good about it, must be leftist. It's just what it is. Art is always leftist even if it's made by a right winger and right wing "art" is always propaganda.
this is the purest ideology i have ever witnessed. Art, if it is always anything, is always religious.

>> No.10758064

>>10757981

Have you ever thought that you might in fact be a conspiratorial nut? Might be worth considering. You have to be pretty deep in the rabbit hole to think there's a shadowy conspiracy of aristocratic European ubermensch driving the alt-right although frankly I would love for that to be true.

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>>10757920
>>10757977
And who the fuck cares about what anyone in "academia" takes seriously? We are here to find the fucking truth, not to circlejerk with arguments from authority of like-minded individuals.

>> No.10758068

>>10758061
Read Guenon

>> No.10758069

>>10758054
>as we understand it today
>Science changes over time
Yet the concept of genetic clustering and grouping people via heritage has almost always existed

>> No.10758071

>>10758054
>The entire concept of race as we understand it today was invented entirely in the mid-19th century, genius
Here is David Hume, noted uneducated idiot, discussing race a century earlier:

I am apt to suspect the negroes and in general all other species of men (for there are four or five different kinds) to be naturally inferior to the whites.

>> No.10758073

>>10758065
>hurr durr I'm a genius because my retarded opinions are my own

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>>10758051
>Art is always leftist even if it's made by a right winger and right wing "art" is always propaganda.

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>>10758020

My red-pill catalyst moment was from pic related, and I can tell you as a far-right winged thinker immersed in far-right culture that most of us came here fleeing from events of immense liberal faggotry, not from being programmed by some random podcast. You constructionists overvalue the potential of some fat guy cracking jokes in a microphone.

>> No.10758083

>>10758073
>hurr durr I'm a genius because my retarded opinions are shared by an academic

>> No.10758087

>>10758065
"Academia" is also filled with people who spent their adult lives studying a thing, peer-reviewing a thing, and engaging with that subject consistently. While not acquiescing to these persons is fine, arguing that because you are outside a system and therefore closer to the "truth" is equally bullshit.

>> No.10758089

>>10757374
The entire Western canon.

>> No.10758092

>>10758027
>you didn't define bigotry

Making value judgements on entire groups. Racism is by definition bigotry.

> and you think that 'deplatforming' is consistent with anti-bigotry.

Interesting, I ctfl+Fd "deplatforming" and literally nobody said anything about it.

>Also racism is incredibly obvious.

Racism is an action, it can't be obvious

>Everybody before the 1920s was hyper racist,

Slavery was regular cultural practice up until around that time as well throughout all of human history, but pretty much every single person in the civilized world will tell you its wrong, even racists. Turns out people have made some terrible moral judgments in the past.

>nd all the test ever done on race differences point towards racism being true

Even granting that you are correct on those "studies", racism is again, an action. You have to prove that racism is acceptable and morally permissible separate from racial differences being true.

But by "every test ever done" you mean "Murray and Lynn" then sure. But I assume you also agree with their findings that first world education makes those differences incredibly minute, and the standard deviations between individuals of the same race present a larger difference than the average difference between two people of the same race.

I'm sure you would also agree with the finding of the Bell Curve that says "No data found could reasonably justify policy decisions based on race"

And ALL of that assumes you can scientifically draw clear distinctions and brightlines between races, which pretty much all studies on the subject have concluded you can't. But of course you'll just dismiss that as jewish tricks.

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>>10758073
>>10758083
hurrrrrrrrrdurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

>> No.10758098

>>10758083
Academics who have dedicated their entire lives to study their fields of knowledge.

>> No.10758102

>>10758087
>arguing that because you are outside a system and therefore closer to the "truth" is equally bullshit.
And who the fuck said that? Duh

>> No.10758103

>>10758073
>hurr durr
>>>/r/eddit

>> No.10758108

>>10758092
>Making value judgements on entire groups
No. You could have just googled 'bigotry' but you had to spew nonsense

It means 'intolerance of other people's opnions'.

As for the rest of your shitpost, saying 'average IQ differs between races for genetic reasons' is plainly and obviously racism by the consensus of literally all of society, so fuck off, I'm not talking about political action.

And the studies don,t claim clear distinctions between races, rather races cluster into groups that blur at the edges, you dishonest lying faggot.

>> No.10758110

>>10758054

Do you think people before the 1940s were blind to genetic clustering and skin colour? What you say is true only if you're referring to the academic system of burrowing your head in the sand and denying any and all conceptions of human race, even when you simply apply the exact same systems used to classify other animals onto humanity. Remember if anybody uses an argument to deny human races that itself would also imply the nonexistence of animal races, that person is an ideologue that peddles dishonest information, whether consciously or unconsciously.

>> No.10758111

>>10757374
Sloterdijk is the only decent thinker of the right.

>> No.10758113
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>>10758092
>Reddit spacing

>> No.10758114

>>10758108
>As for the rest of your shitpost, saying 'average IQ differs between races for genetic reasons' is plainly and obviously racism by the consensus of literally all of society, so fuck off, I'm not talking about political action.
Doesn't make it any less true, though.

>> No.10758115

De Maistre
Russel Kirk
Aquinas
Fernando Pessoa
Alain de Benoist
Jean Raspail

>> No.10758116

>>10758087

And who's entire professional existence depends on payments from ideologues and politicians. Don't forget that part.

>> No.10758118

>>10758092

>define bigotry

>Making value judgements on entire groups.

So if you say strawberries taste good or cheetahs are fast you're a bigot?

>> No.10758119

>>10758092

Only brainlets quote and respond to individual sentences.

>> No.10758125

>>10758114
Truth is unironically socially constructed so now go fuck yourself.

>> No.10758127

>>10758102
>And who the fuck cares about what anyone in "academia" takes seriously? We are here to find the fucking truth, not to circlejerk with arguments from authority of like-minded individuals.
This is clearly the intent of what's written, and the posts before that on the matter. If it isn't, write with more concision, Jesus. And even if it were not the case, keeping this shit in perspective is equally worthwhile.

>> No.10758129

>>10758125

2+2=4 no matter what society has to say about it.

>> No.10758131

>>10758125
It unironically isn't socially constructed, and collective denial doesn't make a truth any less true.

>> No.10758133

>>10758125

P-U-R-E-I-D-E-O-L-O-G-Y

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>>10758108
>rather races cluster into groups that blur at the edges
Not really, there is still very clear clustering desu. Doesn't mean that biological determinism is set in stone tho, and there is still a debate as how many races there are, but it's very clear that humans have enough variation to have racial categories

>> No.10758137

>>10758127
>We are here to find the fucking truth, not to circlejerk
What part of this you don't understand?

>> No.10758138

>>10758125
/lit/ really is the most reddit board

>> No.10758140

>>10758134

Humans grouped into very clear genetic clusters in the past, but these "blurred edges" comments refer more to modern mixed-race peoples. however this argument used against the existence of races is entirely dishonest, animal races can have blurred edges as well but that does not refute the existence of different races of animals.

>> No.10758141

>>10758134
you don't understand these assholes, if race is anything less than a Platonic ideal confirmed by a voice from the Heavens then they'll claim it just doesn't exist at all and the term should be abandoned

>> No.10758148

>>10758138

I think that was bait but I'm not actually sure. If it was bait it was high quality as obviously it baited some replies.

>> No.10758149

>>10758125
Is this leddit?

>> No.10758160

all me

>>10758129
>>10758131
>>10758133
>>10758138
>>10758148
>>10758149

>> No.10758165

>>10758148

That's the kind of shit that gets taught in schools so it wouldn't surprise me if it's real.

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>>10758160

>> No.10758172

>>10758165
Shouldn't you be on Stormfront waging war against the ZOG?

>> No.10758173

>>10758172

Why would I do that?

>> No.10758174
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>>10758160

>> No.10758182

>>10758172

We have no reason to sequester ourselves in boomberfront.

The millenial far right has very little to do with boomer and gen x skin heads. We aren't their continuation and it's a mistake to consider us as their progeny.

>> No.10758183

FUCK OFF REDDIT
JUST FUCK OFF FOR ONCE
JUST FOR ONE FUCKING THREAD

>> No.10758195

>>10758174
>>10758171

Will you retards stop with this shit. You don't ever have to prove anything on this site. Nobody gives a fuck if you're a samefag or not.

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>>10758171
>>10758174
all me

>> No.10758205

>>10757758
>Nietzsche
>Schopenhauer
>Right wing
Is this a joke?

>> No.10758215

>>10758183
This thread was Reddit from the beginning.

Begone frogposters

>> No.10758222

>>10758203

It took you 3 and a half minutes to edit and post that while it took me only 1 minute to prnt screen, throw it in paint and upload. This suggests mine is the non-edited one.

>> No.10758226

>>10758205
>it's a Leftists attempt to explain why the 'Overman' is a pro-equality concept episode

>> No.10758228

>>10758222
also me

>> No.10758233
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10758233

>good discussion on right-winged material

>oy vey shut it down

>REBBITREBBITREBBITREBBITREBBITREBBITREBBITREBBITREBBITREBBITREBBITREBBITREBBITREBBITREBBITREBBITREBBITREBBITREBBITREBBITREBBITREBBITREBBITREBBITREBBIT

>> No.10758235

>>10758228
also your fucking whore mother.

>> No.10758243

>>10758235
me self owning myself

>> No.10758246

>>10758226
>It's a teenage from /pol/ thinks being anti-egalitarian makes Nietzsche right wing
Amerisharts shouldn't be allowed to read Nietzsche.

>> No.10758248

>>10758137
Your inability to acknowledge what I've said in any way suggests your are either disingenuous or without answer. If you were serious about this claim, you'd readily acknowledge why I said >>10758087 this as reinforcing that point (which it clearly does) or you'd be offering a rebuttal of some kind beyond pretending one of us doesn't understand.

>>10758233
>discussion
lol checked, regardless.

>> No.10758251

>>10758205
It's a fucking tragedy how Peterson has convinced a bunch of brainlets that Nietzsche is right wing.

>> No.10758259

>>10758246
>It's a teenager from leddit doesn't know that the main difference between left and right and had always been the issue of egalitarianism since the history of the distinction was first made during the build of the French Revolution
Wew lad

>> No.10758261

>>10758246
>Left-wing politics supports social equality and egalitarianism, often in opposition to social hierarchy and social inequality
>Right-wing politics hold that certain social orders and hierarchies are inevitable, natural, normal or desirable,

But please continue. How does the Overman fit into the first category and not the second

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>>10758203

>> No.10758264

>>10758215
That’s right, comrade! How can these Drumpflets be allowed to post a hate symbol on my board?!?!

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>>10758263
me as well

>> No.10758284

>>10758246
Being against equality is a key tenet of right wing thinking, and it's regularly used as a point of criticism against Nietzsche by liberal analytic philosophers like Bertrand Russell.

Nietzsche wouldn't support right wing collectivism, but you can't deny that his project of the Overman and pro-aristocratic writings are right wing in orientation.

>> No.10758286

Read the scholastics that's were true rightwings are. The school of Salamanca has a bunch of political thinkers that have a bunch of interesting ideas like Molina,Vitoria or Mariana.

>> No.10758304

>>10758140
races of animals are subspecies different from human haplogroups
>>10758134
>i can claim that taxonomy is wrong because of haplogroups im retarded
>>10758068
subhuman

>> No.10758314

>>10758304
>races of animals are subspecies different from human haplogroups
It is literally the same thing

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10758315

>>10758304
I was talking about FST values and not haplogroups, but good job being retarded

>> No.10758319

>>10758304
>races of animals are subspecies different from human haplogroups

And does that disprove the notions of human subspecies or human races? No. Don't resort to obfuscation and pedantics, you're making yourself and your ideological peers look bad.

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>>10758259
>>10758261
The fact that he was anti-egalitarian doesn't make him right wing, especially if you consider that he constantly says many anti-right things as well.
Imagine being an amerimutt and all you can get out of Nietzsche is
>lol overman (a term derived from the Nietzsche renaissance in France btw) stronk stomp on da weak.

>> No.10758336

>>10758323
K so if a Leftist says something against some other Leftist idea, then they're not a leftist. Thanks for your brilliant analysis anon.

Moreover Newton is not religious because he also did science. At last I truly see

>> No.10758342

>>10758336
Nice bunch of non-sequiturs, retard.

>> No.10758344

>>10758323
Desu you can't really classifying him as being overtly right or left wing politically, just an overall unique thinker, but yeah his stance on egalitarianism is hard right even if his stance on things like contemporary religions or the state are anti-right wing.
>Ubermensche theory was just about social darwinism
Projecting amerimutt detected

>> No.10758349

>>10758342
I was showing why your arguments are retarded, it's not my fault you can"t follow.

I'll spell it out for you since you're clearly a brainlet- Nietzsche criticizing right wing ideas does not mean he doesn't have right wing positions himself. Nietzsche having more to him than the Overman does not mean that the Overman isn,t a right wing idea.

>> No.10758351

>>10757374
>What are some good rightwing thinkers?
None. The guys you mentioned are the very cream of the crop, so you probably won't find anyone eles that isn't a meme sprouting hack.

>> No.10758353

>>10758344
>Desu you can't really classifying him as being overtly right or left wing politically
Thanks, that's what I'm saying. People who says he was right wing (or left wing, for that matter) are retards trying to claim that "he was ourguy XDDD".
>Ubermensche theory was just about social darwinism
That's what amerilards and anglos get when they read Nietzsche, yes. See: Pinker.

>> No.10758360

Bronze Age Pervert

>> No.10758363

>>10758349
You didn't "show why my arguments are retarded", you misread and strawmanned and your second strawman doesn't even make sense, imbecile.

>> No.10758364

>>10758314
no not at all little bug
>>10758315
oh wow an unsourced image that’s not fron a scientific journal from the last 5 years wow im convinced color me convinced wow honey gee oh wow look the infographic convinced me there are distinct subspecies of humans wow haha oh golly gee
>>10758319
there are, in taxonomy, no distinct subspecies of homo sapiens and there is no evidence for subspecies of homosapiens
>>10758323
read watch N had to say about socialism
and have a nice day

>> No.10758368

>>10758363
That's not a response. To respond you have to address what the person says, not just insult them, try again.

>> No.10758372

Right wing in what sense? The current american rightwing is heavily influenced by Locke,Calvin,Hamilton and the federalist party,Burke and Ayn Rand (I know she is a meme but she is influential in some senses to the ideological make up of the republican party)

>> No.10758374

>>10758364
>A haplogroup is a genetic population group of people who share a common ancestor on the patriline or the matriline.
The fuck do you think a race is

>> No.10758384

>>10758364
>there are, in taxonomy, no distinct subspecies of homo sapiens and there is no evidence for subspecies of homosapiens

What qualifies as evidence for subspecies amongst nonhuman animal groups?

>> No.10758391

>>10758368
A non response is fitting for someone who doesn't engage honestly but prefers strawmanning instead. Also
>Thinking religion and science are at odds
Spotted the teenage r*dditor.

>> No.10758392

>>10758364
>there are, in taxonomy, no distinct subspecies of homo sapiens and there is no evidence for subspecies of homosapiens
you,re such a pathetic little cunt. mindlessly repeating dogma without ever thinking about what you're even saying

>> No.10758398

>>10758391
>Thinking religion and science are at odds
My point was literally that they're not at odds at all. Christ you're retarded. That,s why Nietzsche having much more to him than the Overman doesn,t mean he isn,t RIght wing, they're not mutually exclusive

>> No.10758409

>>10757382
>Confuscius

How can a communist be right-winged?

>> No.10758410

>>10758138
>/lit/ really is the most reddit board

lame, reddit-tier retort, quite frankly.

>> No.10758433

>>10758374
not “white” and “caucasoid” retard
>>10758384
genomic, taxonomical designation by scientists of subspecies
>>10758392
faggot idealist swine