/lit/ - Literature

>>10705863
not everyone has the grace of enmity, anon.

cause no philosopher will ever 'save the world'. they arrive too late, as wittg said.
they can at best describe the downfall for those going down, but nothing can be done about it.

it is only those who will be born in a new world that will appreciate any of their sayings, a world where all that will be the evidence, a world that will come by itself and that will eventually decay, and so on.

philosopher and poets are just like the birds that sing when the sun rises, they dont cause it nor really explain it, they are just part of an ongoing process that is impossible to explain, just to live

>>10705863
she's too pure for this world
even the good people who read her will still be receptive to the influence of their own evils

>>10705863
She's in he'll because she never got baptized anon

>>10705863
She's in hell because she never got baptized anon

She is the patron saint of LARPers

>>10705863

>woman
>can't open pickle jar alone
>will save the world

>>10705967
How would the ability to open a pickle jar be relevant?

>>10705907
I like what you just said, could you elaborate how you came to that conclusion ?

>>10706033
thats impossible to answer but an attempt is not useless: i guess it is the outcome of a shift in the conception of the world. from seeing it as composed of separated things to seeing it as a single unity where all its visible interactions maintain that unity. and so, none of these concrete things or actions we see with our senses can make any sense without the awareness of the living unity of which they are part.

> literally proves Marcionism

whoa...

>>10705967
Spoon method, stupid frogposter. Your entire gender is obsolete.

>>10706341
rekt

>>10705863
give me the basic gesalt on her work

in all her greatness and the beauty of her writings, she is the proof hat women cant into rational thinking, cant into the division that made of he west what it is today.

she mixes it all in a system that is not fully philosophy nor mysticism nor politics, but some sort of mythico-existential system for life. that is what was done in primitive societies. that is, one could even argue, how humans are supposed to live, but today we are non longer in the midst of nature.

those systems might be beautiful and inspiring, but they have no place in todays world. plus, poets are better at it.

Well, she walked the walk. That, at least, is something that many philosophers fall short of.

>>10705907
>Only one word more concerning the desire to teach the world what it ought to be. For such a purpose philosophy at least always comes too late. Philosophy, as the thought of the world, does not appear until reality has completed its formative process, and made itself ready. History thus corroborates the teaching of the conception that only in the maturity of reality does the ideal appear as counterpart to the real, apprehends the real world in its substance, and shapes it into an intellectual kingdom. When philosophy paints its grey in grey, one form of life has become old, and by means of grey it cannot be rejuvenated, but only known. The owl of Minerva, takes its flight only when the shades of night are gathering.

>>10707464
So basically philosophers are retards who can't predict shit? Thanks Georg.

>>10705863
Her views are too anarchic to ever work. They require too much of the average person. It's a shame though, since she'd played an enormous role in my whole life.
>>10705930
lol

>>10706341
>assuming

>>10705863

>After a lifetime of battling illness and frailty, Weil died in August 1943 from cardiac failure at the age of 34. The coroner's report said that "the deceased did kill and slay herself by refusing to eat whilst the balance of her mind was disturbed".[47]

That's so patrician, holy fuck.

>>10708287
:((

Are there any other philosophers like Weil, or is she truly one of a kind?

>>10708668
Sure, but they're all mystics.

>mfw a Weil-fag made an arthouse film based on her work and its pretentious bullshit

https://vimeo.com/56713502

>>10705863
Desire of Baptism is not Baptism of desire

>>10705930
This too.

>>10708287
Feels bad man.

>>10708693
At first I thought you meant the documentary from. a few years back: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1692259/

This one is also disappointing... the documentarian doesn’t understand Weil at all and just wants a mystic communist to sacralize her fuck-bush-im-a-protester feelings. At best it’s an interesting misreading of Weil, but not very good overall.

>>10708946
The BBC In Our Time of her is good though

>>10708668
Emmanuel Levinas, Iris Murdoch.

>>10707264
>having no humility before God
Anon, we worry for you. Think about yourself in relation to everything for a while and come back to us.

>>10708668
She's a big influence in Agamben

>>10705863
Is her book about the Iliad any good?

>>10705967
kek women are such fags

>>10708897
She was beautiful.

>>10710242
>Weil acquired from her family home an obsession with cleanliness; in her later life she would sometimes speak of her "disgustingness" and think that others would see her this way, despite the fact that in her youth she was considered highly attractive. Despite the fact that Weil was generally highly affectionate, she almost always avoided any form of physical contact, even with female friends.
>According to her friend and biographer, Simone Pétrement, Weil decided early in life that she would need to adopt masculine qualities and sacrifice opportunities to have love affairs in order to fully pursue her vocation to improve social conditions for the disadvantaged. From her late teenage years, Weil would generally disguise her "fragile beauty" by adopting a masculine appearance, hardly ever using makeup and often wearing men's clothes.
>The exact cause of her death remains a subject of debate. Some claim that her refusal to eat came from her desire to express some form of solidarity toward the victims of the war. Others think that Weil's self-starvation occurred after her study of Schopenhauer. (In his chapters on Christian saintly asceticism and salvation, Schopenhauer had described self-starvation as a preferred method of self-denial). However, Simone Pétrement, one of Weil's first and most significant biographers, regards the coroner's report as simply mistaken. Basing her opinion on letters written by the personnel of the sanatorium at which Simone Weil was treated, Pétrement affirms that Weil asked for food on different occasions while she was hospitalized and even ate a little bit a few days before her death; according to her, it is in fact Weil's poor health condition that eventually made her unable to eat.
>Weil's first English biographer, Richard Rees, offers several possible explanations for her death, citing her compassion for the suffering of her countrymen in Occupied France and her love for and close imitation of Christ. Rees sums up by saying: "As for her death, whatever explanation one may give of it will amount in the end to saying that she died of love".

>>10707264
>in all her greatness and the beauty of her writings, she is the proof hat women cant into rational thinking,
yes women are too pragmatic to fall this male spook

>>10710268
wisslpb?

>>10710412
>>10709595
im not saying i agree with the one sided view that lets half the human experience out, im just stating things as the are, for we live in such word. and these poetical compensations fix nothing.

if you really wanna get in touch with god or whatever you call it, that has to be part o society itself from the start, so it can be lived, not just longed for, much later, when it is too late. thatd be like accepting to lose your legs to be promised a bike inn the future. it will not only be useless but youd have given up something essential.

>>10705863
The world neither can, nor should be saved. Try reading the Bible some time.

>>10706033
insight

>>10711600
you haven't read her have you?

Anatomically modern humans are in fact incapable of knowing the presence of God and I suspect that we do not possess divine souls.

>>10708693
>Not knowing who Chris Kraus is.

just heard dan carlin namedrop her in a podcast and call her underrated

didn't expect that

Weil is my favorite jew. She was an angel.

>>10713108
Anne Frank + Weil lesbian erotica when?

>>10713781
Weil was pure, fuck off.