/lit/ - Literature

I think you meant to say "From Hell" because the Watchmen is bog roll grade

>>10703905
not the best literary work but the a e s t h e t i c s are next level

>>10703915
God you guys are such fucking plebs his best work is the lost girls. It's also beautifully illustrated.

>>10703953
claiming to being a patrician in graphic novels is like claiming to appreciate the muppets on a deeper level than anyone else. it's a novelty and a diversion

>>10703970
Yes you smart. Me dumb comic pleb. Me like video game and cape shit also

>>10703953
Lost Girls is kinda dull, From Hell is by far his best work tied with The Voice of Fire

>>10703980
>calls lost girls dull
>enjoys from hell

>>10703979
aren't you late for your vasectomy so you don't knock up your fuck pillow? Cause lord knows you spend way too much time in the comic book shop defending your right as a grown man to buy stacks of pretty paper to actually approach a woman. Please don't take out your samurai sword you sharpened on the unfortunate souls of 50 cantaloupes and brandish it at me, I was just goofing, hey where did you go? How did you teleport behind me? Not so fa? I died.

>>10703970
Aren’t you such an intellectual

>>10703979
>>10704018
okay back on the trolley to >>>/co/ you had a nice visit but you can't stay here.

>>10704011

>comic books
how old are you? you can’t be over 12

>>10704056
yeah so I may be wi fi ready and remote controllable but what are you really trying to say here? use your words stop posting random pictures

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>>10703905
I read it a couple times when I was around 14. Recently I caught the second half of the Zack Snyder adaption on television and was surprised to find myself enjoying it. Is Armond White onto something? It was good.

>>10704082
hey I may be a softbodied, free-swimming aquatic animals with a gelatinous umbrella-shaped bell and trailing tentacles, but ... what is your point?

>>10704073

>>10704104
I don't even know how that is physically possible. You comic book nerds are bullies

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>>10703980
>voice of the fire
Suffers from the need to have an epic TWEEST every chapter

>>10703915
>>10703980
I prefer From Hell just because of the shit I learned from it but if we were to talk about the best comic books Watchmen wins, no doubt about it.
>>10704000
>a gloomy story nominally about the Ripper but actually about 19th society London, Masons, occult lore, theology and much more, where even the typography fits the story
vs
>dude porn lmao

>>10703905
>he thinks comics are art

>>10704071
Watchmen is literally the only Graphic Novel you should read. Seriously.

Listen man. I know. I know what you're thinking. I don't even read Non-fiction anymore, so I definitely don't spend any time reading Watchmen, but the graphic novel is absolutely incredible. Even Alan Moore's other work doesn't come close.

I honestly do not think it can be topped.

So yes, if people are reading Watchmen cover to cover like more than two times or something then there is something wrong with them. Like I said, I don't have the time to read it myself, time is precious. But in all honesty, it IS something that you might want to read once. It's not for the gay fucking anime faggots or anything. This book utilizes concepts from Quantum mechanics, existentialism, determinism, theology, mathematics, the nature of existence itself. Everything. The ship they ride on is named after Archimedes. That should tell you something.

>>10704071
Watchmen is literally the only Graphic Novel you should read. Seriously.

Listen man. I know. I know what you're thinking. I don't even read fiction anymore myself, so I definitely don't spend any time re-reading Watchmen, but the graphic novel is absolutely incredible. Even Alan Moore's other work doesn't come close.

I honestly do not think it can be topped.

So yes, if people are reading Watchmen cover to cover like more than two times or something then there is something wrong with them. Like I said, I don't have the time to read it myself, time is precious. But in all honesty, it IS something that you might want to read once. It's not for the gay fucking anime faggots or anything. This book utilizes concepts from Quantum mechanics, existentialism, determinism, theology, mathematics, the nature of existence itself. Everything. The ship they ride on is named after Archimedes. That should tell you something.

Honestly you need a very high IQ to understand watchmen

>>10704169
I like em both, but I preferred From Hell too. The historical depth in graphic novel form got me going. Also loved just the minimalist(?) style

>>10704372
Must be pasta

i know threads like this are retarded bait but it actually makes me lol when i think about all of the retards who unironically think this

>>10704419
nop

I've read a decent amount of comic books. They just aren't a decent way to illustrate things.

Besides, if you read the Watchmen in like 2-3 sittings, it reads like a book anyway. It is incredibly dense, and some pages are just book pages. Like they just have words and nothing else.

>>10703979
>>10704018
He's not entirely off base. Graphic novels are a hybrid of literary and visual arts and is therefore a lesser form of either of them.

>>10703917
the aesthetics are the worst part. i enjoyed reading it, but i thought my eyes would bleed by the time i finished

When you were reading Stoner, I studied The Watchmen. When you were thumbing through Dubliners, I mastered The Watchmen.

>>10704426
>at its best, Watchmen simply imitates books

profound

>>10704372
>Watchmen cover to cover like more than two times or something then there is something wrong with them
Fuck off, the art is so thick and lush a second reading is almost obligatory to fully enjoy it

Watched the movie recently. Reading it now
https://www.scribd.com/doc/13749342/Watchmen-comic-full

>>10704011
What's with the pugnacious attitude, lad

>>10703915
From Hell and Watchmen are both good

>>10704372
I'm well aware this is bait but there are probably impressionable souls reading this thread, so I'm just gonna jump on it.

From Hell is the best graphic novel. Period. It's /lit/ as /lit/ can be. It's such a different category from Watchmen (which created the fucking Zach Snyder Justice League and fucking Heroes).

Alan Moore disowned capeshit but he's fucking proud of From Hell. It's art. It's literature. It's British as fuck. Read it.

>>10704011
>aren't you late for your vasectomy so you don't knock up your fuck pillow?
Wow you sure are lacking in self-awareness if you thought that was a witty insult in any way.

>>10704529
you're right, kind of lost the thread there, not my finest moment. Even the attempt at saving it towards the end is shameful. Forgiveness, please. I guess the Watchmen is really a watermark if you are well read or not.

I understand this thread belongs on /co/ but why do you guys dismiss Watchmen so readily?
What are the criticisms against this middle-brow graphic novel?

>>10704978
It’s just pseudo-intellectual posturing

Grug enjoy to read comic books. Grug even think capeshit can be great art, and that man who no read capeshit book can no be well read

>>10703905

Grug enjoy to read comic books. Grug even think capeshit can be great art, and that man who no read capeshit book can no be well read

>>10704978
because compared to literature it's very, very lowbrow, but people act like it isn't

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>>10704519
Comics really peaked with Aquaman.

comics novice reporting in

this thread makes me want to read both "from hell" and "watchmen"

>>10705069
its because super heroes are gay corporate fascist devices for selling the old european religions to you in castrated form for your obeisance and they also serve as the crudest kind of power fantasies imaginable. its not even remotely a coincidence that super hero pornography and cos playing is so popular as religion declined.

>>10703970
But the Muppets are legitimately good

>>10705174
Super heroes are extremely jewish

>>10704073
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

I like Watchmen but Moore is a fart huffing f a g g o t

>Reading Watchmen
>Not reading Jerusalem

>>10705151
Watchmen is kind of a critique of comic books themselves. Kind of a post-modernist take on comic books in the first place.

For instance, when time-travel is utilized, certain panels will be in places they aren't supposed to be. Rorshach's face is different in every panel, and you're supposed to guess how he is feeling in every panel (it's an ink blot test, obviously a patronage to Hermann Rorshach), there's a feeling of dread at the coming potential war, and news itself, as a medium of expression is critically analyzed as a harbinger of doom.

It's an extremely philosophical little piece of literature, and the overall message you get from it is a very serious one, indeed.

And while I agree serious literature is always better than comic books, if you're going to get one graphic novel, rather than any of Moore's other works, or Maus, or Blankets, or anything, you should get Watchmen.

The very name of Watchmen is inspired by a John F. Kennedy speech he never delivered. That should tell you something.

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>>10703915
>Not even best Alan Moore
Tbqh desu, he is the most /lit/ comic book writer

>>10706351
thanks anon i appreciate the insight

I got it out from the library but never read past the first 2 volumes because I don't like the art style, or capeshit in general. Might try again soon. I prefer confessional auto-bio comics, black comedy and the paper rad/fort thunder type of shit

>it's a "he can't get into a story about human nature and folly unless it has grown men in spandex who shoot fire" episode

>>10704429

>a well crafted half apple, half georgia peach pie is not as good as a whole apple pie or a whole georgia peach pie

>a deck of cards would be better if it was only red

>I appreciate women, but it would be better if they just left us alone

when you have an omnipotent force in Dr. Manhattan like Superman all tension is forfeit. it simply fails to be dramatic.

>>10708123

not when he's casually disinterested and obviously quite the fuckoff

This thread shows how closed minded /lit/ can be.

>>10708127
lol self insert porn

>>10708133

the only reason anyone of _______ would come here is to give-a-giggle at the goofballs

fancy a game of golf, gopher?

>>10706332
Jerusalem is try hard tripe.

>>10708153

shit, did I leave my mask at home again

>>10708181

is it try hard because it's tripe, or is it tripe because it's try hard?