[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/lit/ - Literature


View post   

File: 74 KB, 800x990, 800px-Kleist,_Heinrich_von.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10634312 No.10634312 [Reply] [Original]

Who writes better short stories?

>> No.10634370

Gogol
Hawthorne
Hoffman

>> No.10636056

akutagawa comes close

>> No.10636062

waiting for someone to write Hemingway so I can respond with a demented wojak

>> No.10636909

Carver

>> No.10636918

>>10634312
Borges shits on pretty much every ss wroter.

>> No.10636958

Kafka
Chekhov
Döblin
And personally I really like Kaschnitz

>> No.10638203

>>10636062
Hemingway

>> No.10638207

>>10636918
Borges is hamstrung by the fact that he only writes about ideas and fails to understand people

>> No.10638210

>>10638203
Good post

>> No.10638216
File: 4 KB, 211x239, gr.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10638216

>>10638203

>> No.10639477

>>10634312
Does the English language have such a wide variet in (not abstract) prose like Germans have with von Kleist?
I doubt you can properly translate Kleist without much of the telling getting lost.
One of the most interesting Short story writers I have read and his influence is definetly felt in later writers, for example Kafka.

>> No.10639496

>>10638207

That’s like saying dark chocolate sucks because it’s not sweet. If you want sweet, eat milk chocolate.

>> No.10639505

Classic Kleist

>> No.10639823

Robert Walser
Flannery O'Connor
Lydia Davis
70s-era Stephen King
Kafka
Beckett
Russell Edson
Harlan Ellison

>> No.10639836

>>10639823
>Lydia Davis
I hope this is bait

>> No.10639874

>>10639836

I like her work, blow me.

>> No.10639892

>>10639874
How can you stand her tesious rhythm? All her sentences are roughly the same length. It's one thing to write plainly, but she's just monotonous. Especially given her subject matter.

>> No.10639894

Chekhov
Akutagawa
Maupassant

>> No.10639922

>>10639892

>All her sentences are roughly the same length

That has to be the most banal criticism I've ever read. Anyway, she has a particularly idiosyncratic style that I like, and I've always been interested in super-short fiction. She has a knack for boiling a story down to its barest elements, especially in her more recent works, and she's a damn fine translator to boot.

>> No.10639964

>>10639922
>boiling a story down to its barest elements
So does (will) a robot, which if what she sounds like.
>damn fine translator
She shat on Proust with her shitty hackjob. I can't stand that woman and her idiot syncrasies.

>> No.10639966

>>10639477
I've never understood what's so great von Kleist. Give me one story of his that I should reread to change my mind.

>> No.10639976

>>10639964

Her Proust translation is universally critically acclaimed but you do you, dude.

>> No.10639998

>>10639922
She's an objectively terrible translator and it wasn't a criticism. I was literally asking how you could stand something monotonous. But I guess it's because you have a weak mind.

>> No.10640002

>>10639976
No it's not.

>> No.10640076

>>10639966
Das Erdbeben in Chile.

>> No.10640083

>>10640076
actually if you want more on why his Prose is so great read "Michael Koolhaas", though it is a longer read than "Das Erdbeben in Chili".

>> No.10640314

>>10639998

Never seen insecurities so blatantly projected in the wild. It's cute in a pitiable way.

>> No.10640322

>>10639496
he just has that flaw, or mark of ouvre. i love borges, but you wont be able to understand the human through him. he provides top entertainment though.

>> No.10641297

jej

>> No.10641333

>>10634312
stephen king