/lit/ - Literature

first for webnovels are novels too

what's some book's

>>10576791
morton feldman - string quartet no. 2

sanderfag a hack

>Last Sff Book you read
The Demolished Man
>Shill it if it's Good and not discussed regularly
I thought it was pretty great. Some really good setpieces that could probably make for an excellent movie. Although the last chapter was pretty gutless and should've been cut. There was no need to spell out Reich's motivations because that's already pretty much spelled out. And the nature of Demolition would've been better off if it was left a mystery
>Next Book you are going to read
I'm not sure yet.

>no images
~4 days till deadline! Get hype and start thinking about what you want to read next month!

Download: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1059

What is the worst Sci-fi book you've ever read ?

>>10576865
ready player one and everything by hubbert.

>>10576865
Resistance Is Futile by Jenny Colgan. Quirky nerds and math wankery with a taste of Twilight but with a water alien instead of a vampire.

>>10576872
I don't know why everyone loves this book so much.
Every normie at my work recommend it to me because they heard I have played a video game in my life.

>>10576944
its popular because its basic. it has normie appeal because of video games. atleast they get their containment books. just imagine if there were no books pandering to normies. they read their one or two books a year and tell themselves the greatest of intellectuals by reading books alone.
leave em that. if there were no outlet for them theyd infest other better books or genres.

Will the culture series be hard to follow in audiobook form ? i want something new to listen to whilst driving but some can be a bit too dense without being able to reread a page.

>>10576944

i always got the impression that it was heavy on 80s nostalgia so people like it because 'Remember wargames with Matthew Broderick!'. Some other Anon told me that though. I should probably read it for myself

>>10576980
It was in fact fairly heavy on the 80's nostalgia.
I mean, I was not alive in the 80's but still got most of the references. Come on tho nigga this shit was dissapointing.

>>10576746
>Last Sff Book you read
Currently finishing Assassin's Quest. The quality drop slightly as the series go on but it's still decent.
>Next Book you are going to read
I'm not sure. As Assassin's Quest is quite generic fantasy I think I'll read something that activate my almonds next, possibly Latro in the Mist.

>tfw you wanna read post-apocalyptic heroic fantasy, but you've already read the only series that fits that description multiple times

What do you guys think of The Expanse. I finished Leviathan Wakes and while being nothing special, was pretty fun.

>>10577021
uh have you tried days of future past?
some guy tags along with his superior officer who is some sort of chosen one. they both get sent to the future. your boss gets awesome super powers but is still a jackass and you get sent into slavery initially. everythings fucked in the future btw and magic and elves and monters and shit are real.

It is my solemn duty to shill this decent novel with three chapters of YA trash in the beginning so that anons might enjoy Golden Son and Iron Gold.

>>10577077
I didn't like the second RR book much and I never finished the 3rd

Not sure whether I finish it or start the series again since RR is great once he leaves the mines

>>10577049
its okay
haven't started the latest one yet because I hate belters

>>10577049
I didn't like all the grey goo stuff, I enjoyed Leviathan until it turned into a horror novel then my ereader broke and I never went back to it

Kinda like in dagger and coin where the same author spends way to many chapters with the hilariously retarded villain

>>10577049

I like the series desu. The first book is probably the best out of them, ive still not finished the latest one though

>>10564424
>Shea acutually wrote a sequel to Eyes of the Overworld that was approved by Vance
While technically true, Vance said in an interview that he didn't read it; he just gave permission to use the character and setting.

Is it any good? It would be tough to acquit yourself well against the two authentic Cugel books.

>>10576865
Fortunately for me i didnt really read any scifi until i was 20 or so and had already read hundreds upon hundreds of books. So my standards were high to start with and i had stopped bothering with shitty writing.

So, worst sci-fi books i've actually finished gotta be either Consider Phlebas or Leviathan Wakes... both purely because of massive hype behind them. Neither of them was particularly shit but definitely not worth my time.

>>10577134
I wish Abraham had come at the conflict in Dagger and Coin from a different angle, like gone super deep into the politics and economics of stopping the big seemingly unstoppable army or something.

I don't think anyone gave a shit about Geder after he's revealed to be a weird douchebag with an inferiority complex. Give his PoV to someone else.

>>10577223
the biggest problem is that he's a middle of the road liberal trying to tie economics into his novels

Stross' economic fantasy works because he explicitly made his books about the transition from mercantilism to industrialisation, Abraham's fantasy is about economics but he doesn't really have anything to say

I wish to thank the sadistic fuck who recommended me The Trysmoon Saga. Next time someone comes to me and ask for a book where the characters are tortured continuously and that will make their terrible failures of a life seem so bright by comparison I'll know just what to recommend.

In the first book, the guy suffers, but you start thinking, oh, it's gonna be alright in the end, and then his waifu gets raped and decapitated. Wow, pretty graphic, ok, but surely that was just a stepping stone to strengthen the character! The next book, he gets his girlfriend forcefully married to someone else and then gets cucked when """his other girl""" gets impregnated in front of him by an annoying cunt who can best be described as Gideon from Gravity Falls, which by the way is the voice in which I read every sentenced he said because the author surely must have meant for this, it's Gideon in the book! Magical powers and all! Well, it's getting annoying by now, you know, 2 books of misery, next book surely will be the turn around, right? Except not, and now I won't even start the next book because, from how every book turned out to be, I know exactly what's going to happen: every one will be tortured killed and the devil will win in the end.

Thankfully, I didn't spend a single penny in this piece of shit, but I wish I had my time back.

>>10576865
Troy Rising. My god, that sucked.

Does anyone have those pictures of pages from Ready Player One? I need a good laugh.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/obituaries/ursula-k-le-guin-acclaimed-for-her-fantasy-fiction-is-dead-at-88.html

>>10577477

>>10577477
I've become so desensitized to fake obituary postings that I really was expecting this to be a 404.
This really sucks, I was in the middle of reading the Earthsea books.

>sranc in the fucking billions
>three seas in chaos, drained of all manpower
>kellhus dead
>insane sociopathic oedipus complex half-dunyain no god with korean micromanagement skills
>five superdunyain leading the consult
>esmenet still a nagging bitch

how will akka pull it off?

>>10576865
Battlefield Earth. The Iron Dream might have been worse per page but was much shorter.

>>10575373
City of stairs has both those things

Hi guys.

>>10577786
Where's your Sonichu medallion Ian Brandon Sanderson?

>>10577615
You mean how will Kellhus's disembodied head pull it off?

>>10576746
Any Orson Scott Card standalone books worth reading?

>>10577477
I can't wait to see people recommend everything she wrote before 1975 and literally nothing after.

>>10577817
i also wanted to post that

>>10577966
Catwings was all right. Some of the stuff in Changing Planes.

>>10577952
Treason was anime before anime fiction was around.

>>10577952
i liked enchantment.
havent read the other two.

>>10577966
It's not like she'd be the only author who has the vast majority of their works ignored. Just look at PKD who mostly only gets nods for Ubik/VALIS/Three Stigmata around here.

>>10578008
Isn't it depressing though? she'll receive more attention in the next 24 hours than she had in the last 24 years.

>>10578018
Maybe she shouldn't have made all her later novels suck then.

>>10578056
how many novels have you published

>>10578018
Well there was a couple of Earthsea adaptations in the 2000s or so. Otherwise she's been surprisingly lowkey in the public consciousness despite being one of the last of the old guard. But that's kind of a blessing in disguise honestly.

>>10578056
Have you got a image of the article where she had literally zero clue how book stores worked and thought books stayed on the shells indefinitely until sold? that was gold.

>>10578065
I hope you've never criticized a movie bucko.

>>10578070
Just the one where she thinks Amazon is killing indie publishers.
http://bookviewcafe.com/blog/2015/06/01/up-the-amazon/

>>10578072
i shit on things all the time

completely writing a large portion of persons career because 'lol feminism' is a shallow act stop being twelve and get off the fucking internet

>>10577989
The Birthday of The World and Four Ways to Forgiveness were fucking great.

>>10578085
God bless her ignorant heart.

>>10578087
I'm completely writing off a large portion of Le Guin's career because all of her books sucked during that portion and I tried to read them, believe me. That portion, from Eye of the Heron to her very recent death, coincided with her starting to read feminist critical theory and focusing on that rather than the interesting anthropological stuff she'd done before.

>>10578100
>Four Ways to Forgiveness
>Werel isn't a planet of psychic brain wizards anymore
>it's just muh colonialism
>four short stories that don't go anywhere
Next you'll tell me The Telling was good

>>10578112
Did you read the Annals of the Western Shore? More greatness.
Lmao, I think I just brought up the Telling in the other thread.
The Telling was fantastic, so NOW what do you have to say?
Incidentally, have you read Always Coming Home?

>>10578128
>This entire post
Did we get linked to from r/fantasy again?

Oh fuck Le Guin has died

>>10578132
Eat a bag of dicks.

>>10578128
>The Telling was fantastic, so NOW what do you have to say?
The Telling was the most boring thing I have ever read and I have read the Book of Deuteronomy.

>>10578146
>I've been found out!

>>10578147
Maybe my memory was faulty... I know the mountain ascent bored me, but I thought the city was pretty interesting, with the "March to the Stars" and all that...
It has been quite a few years since I read it, so...

>>10578153
>hmmm, I don't like what this poster has to say: must be from r*dd*t!
Not from r*dd*t, anon. In fact I probably predate you on /lit/.

>>10576865
Children of Time
So much wasted potential

>>10578161
There wasn't any sign that the hippie locals were going to be anything but good and holy or that the book-burners would be anything but cartoon villains. I don't read Le Guin for that. Even the Shing were at least pathetic.

>>10578171
Oh my apologies oldfag-sama. It seems /lit/ has changed since 1986, you will probably find the environment at r/fantasy much more suitable to your tastes.

>>10577271
>I wish to thank the sadistic fuck who recommended me The Trysmoon Saga.
You're welcomed.
You should really finish it. The crazy King the Best character.
You even get supple milf pussy.

>>10578174
Yeah, that's a valid criticism.
I just really like anything related to the Hainish, so I ate it up anyway.
I'm wracking my brain for some of my favorite short stories... I really, really liked the ones about churtening.

>>10577477
Someone make a thread and ask the mods to sticky it.

>>10578179
H-how did you know that I've been in /lit/ since 1986?? Are you stalking me?

>>10578187
I liked Solitude a lot. It's really a horror story. I was never too enamored of the Hainish themselves. My favorite shorts from her are actually probably mostly in Changing Planes.

>>10578195
inb4 someone says "Neuromancer" wasn't good then, either.

is r scott baker's blog worth reading or is it just philosophical nonsense?

>>10578200
"A Fisherman of the Inland Sea"! That's the book I was thinking of.
I really, really like Changing Planes.
I think I'm gonna try to read her whole catalog, of course rereading many.

>>10578216
The latter. He's a failed PHD who became a reddit darling.

No Ursula Le Guin thread eh??

I can't believe that Le Guin is dead.
But Ada Palmer is the new hotness

>>10578185
>spoiler
You are just saying that because you want me to finish just so you can see me suffer.

Is there anything like Worm that's not Warden? I don't give two shits about Glory Girl

>>10577083
Just released a 4th book called Iron Gold set ten years in the future is supposed to be another 3 part sieries on top of the existing series. Just finished it and it was alright definatly didn't seem as strong as Red Rising was but i will probably buy then next two books just to see how it ends.

>>10578439
I'm torn between reading it and waiting for the trilogy to be done

I always fucking forget loads if I read the start of a series when it's published

Has this been done before

>your average story about a kid who steps through a portal into a fantasy world and learns he's the chosen hero with powers
>only difference is, this is an urban fantasy world, and in this world the word "hero" implies masks and spandex

>>10578451
there's not really many superhero books out there but there's like a 70% chance that's been covered in a wildcards short story since there's so many of them

>>10578364
>>10577456

>>10578449
Just wait.

>>10578428
Naw. He gets it. then lives with his eternal milfu
i liked that the book didn't do retarded cliches.
No one escaping, no slim stupid act that lets someone live. Bad guys were bad, and bad things happened.
but it was recommended to me for the milf pussy, and that is what I recommended it for

>/SfFg/
How many more versions of this remains? Did that anon ever come back to complain?

>>10577477

Good. Fuck that liberal Boomer.

>>10578435
I don't know anon, I've been searching to no avail my self.

>>10578387
Better than Le Guin's senilia, worse than Le Guin's prime, hotter than Le Guin at any point

>>10577271
You do know that bad shit just happens to people? People die for no reason.
Everything doesn't have to have a profound meaning. Shitty things just happen. Life doesn't have every single activity tied to another in someway.

>>10576944
It's popular with the ''I'm such a nerd 80s references LMAO XD'' crowd. In short it's just a fad.

>>10578767
Yes but things just happening for no reason doesn't necessarily make for good or compelling literature.

>>10578757
>>10578387
>there are people ITT right now that wants to fuck Ada "I'm a tranny in disguise with a gimp leg" Palmer.

>>10578779
I didn't say Ada Palmer was attractive, I said she was more attractive than Le Guin.

>>10578767
Do you ever just read obituaries for fun? Would you recommend them to someone who wants a novel? They're real. They're true to life. They don't have to have profound meanings.

>>10576865
Old Man's War. I didn't need 100 pages on how old farts shit themselves and can't get erect.

>>10578795
>Old Man's War
Is that the only book you've read by Scalzi? Because he has written worse, some of the sequels to Old Man's War like Zoe's Tale are pretty bad in a phoned in/cash grab kinda way.

>>10578783
Meh. I would hwve fucked.

>>10578791
Jokes on you I write and publish obituaries for a living
just kill me

>>10578960
But who would write about it?

>>10578913
Yeah. I don't read sci-fi in general, my experience is that it's gets either too technical about fictional mumbo jumbo, or it has people in pajamas shooting pew pew lasers out of toy guns with a serious tone. Not to mention the tech is many times plagued by the era the author wrote the story i.e. it tries to be cutting edge and futuristic but it's still tube television tier shit.

Can I get some sci fi recs based on a list of my favorite books:

a Season in Hell - Arthur Rimbaud

the Confidence Man: His Masquerade - Herman Melville

Pale Fire - Vladimir Nabokov

the Third Policeman - Flann O'brien

Collected works of Borges

the Book of Laughter and Forgetting - Milan Kundera

the Mezzanine - Nicholson Baker

Basically I generally like stuff that is erudite, funny, wild in spirit and polyphonic. That's why the closeat thing to sci fi I've enjoyed is Douglas Adams' books. Thanks.

>>10579012
>I generally like stuff that is ludite
That and sci-fi don't really go well together.

>>10579053
What? It said erudite.

>>10578913
>he has written worse
I agree, but I'd nominate Redshirts

>>10579012
You ever read any Vonnegut?

Alasdair Gray would be my other recommendation for the scif/literature bridge, both Lanark and Small Things are fantastic.

hot take: old man's war is good until it gets to the training sequence and starts timeskipping because the mc turns into a fairly typical sf protag then

Someone recommended to me a scifi book about an exiled prince who goes into searching different powers to free his people, but I don't remember the book's name.

Do someone here knows what book he was talking about?

>>10578751
XD

>>10579283
Yeah I've read a couple of Vonnegut but can't get into him for whatever reason. I'll look into the other writer you mentioned. Thanks.

>>10579053
>Bradbury

>>10579053
There's shitloads of luddite scifi though

For two easy examples Safehold and Black Sun Rising are scifi books where humanity has had to regress to pre-technology for various reasons

>>10579432
Amish Vampires in Space. There's limitless examples.

>>10579313
Exodus

>>10576865
Warp Speed by Travis S. Taylor. There are plenty of reviews out there going into greater detail about why it's bad, but basically it's about the author being a Mary Sue and having a astronaut girlfriend.

>but-but-but-but baen isn't a vanity press!

>>10579313
Treason, Orson Scott Card.

>>10579474
Vanity presses are when you get paid to get published, not presses that print crappy books. Crappy books are actually quite lucrative.

>>10579474
I don't understand how the best SFF publisher around could be a "vanity press" irregardless of how much dreck they may put out there.

>>10578644
im not him but im kind triggered by it as well

>>10579503
I wonder what it would take for Baen to axe whoever it is that's making all their godawful covers. I know you're not supposed to judge a book by its cover but it's tough when showing someone with functioning eyes a Baen cover would net about the same reaction as shoving a cross into the face of a vampire.

>>10579641
I like Baen covers though. Much better than the stuff the other places are using right now.

>>10576865
the martian

>>10579641
Baen has specifically gone with those covers to create a "brand" that's easily identifiable. Big glossy titles and eye-catching CGI, the pulp SFF version of airport novels.

Their more literary/headline authors like David Drake, Lois McMaster Bujold and Larry Korea tend to get the nicer "real art" or higher quality/subdued 3D covers, as opposed to the poser art specials (John Ringo) or "random people photoshoped onto a 3D background" stuff.

And apparently it works. I read somewhere that Bujold apparently hates most of the covers that the Vorkosigan books have gotten, but the times when she's used her "author veto" power to get another cover they haven't sold as well.

>>10579808
forgot my image

>>10579808
>Big glossy titles
>tfw finally noticing it wasn't big glossy titties

>>10576746
>no conan

Well, that's easy. Solomon Kane.

>>10576865
LiTTLE CHERiNE

>>10577477
F

>>10579810
>that cover
LOL

>>10577271
Thanks for the rec, added to my to-read list.

Did anyone hear from that anon who was making an audio drama chart?

>>10577204
Obligatory "not that guy" mention, but I thought it was competent and worth a read.

And speaking of Nifft, having read all three books, I'd say Mines of Behemoth is the one that most reminded me of Cugel. It was also the best, but not just because of that, but because it had an impressive array of fantastic bestiary.

>>10577786
Hey Brandon. Do you have some tips about how to write in Trump's America? I really feel that my creative process has been hampered in the past year or so. Thanks in advance.
- Rick

>>10579012
Book of the New Sun
A Canticle for Leibowitz
The Dying Earth
Gravity's Rainbow

>>10580554
From everything I've heard from other Mormons if Sanderson hasn't been disenfranchised that means he's still a homo-hating Republican no matter how hard he tries to convince Reddit otherwise.

>>10580586
Sanderson released a statement apologizing for his personal opinion that gay marriage shouldn't be legal and saying that he would do everything he could to make sure said opinion did not leak into his books. This was sufficient to reddit.

>>10580586
wtf I love Sanderson now!

>>10576865
Ayn Rand if that counts
Ender's Game sequels
Dune Prequels/sequels
Algebraist

>>10576944
It's easy to read for people who don't read often

>>10579641
>>10579687
>>10579808
>Baen covers
>Ryk E. Spoor and Eric Flint attempted to game the trope when they wrote "Diamonds Are Forever" for Baen; figuring that the cover would depict something of the sort anyway, they included a scene in which—for entirely justifiable in-story reasons—the female lead fights a dragon while dressed in nothing but her underwear. The cover illustration ended up being based on a different scene entirely.

>>10576944
I used to shit on player one along with the other people in here who never read it. Then I actually read it and it was good, I enjoyed it. I'm sure the hate for player one is coming from the same people who hate Night Angel Trilogy or Sanderson. They are the ones that hate new things.

I'm sure that 90% of the people ITT that hate player one, and actually read the book to completion, are the ones that post nothing but botns, or other wolfe books.

Posting this for the anon last thread so he can remember what to ignore.
This list needs to be updated.

>>10580861
listen to the i don't even own a tv episode on it if you can't be arsed to read it, the book is appalling

Sanderson is meh, Night Angel is bad but RPO is fucking awful

>>10578085
>>10578110
Amazon is cancer though.

>>10580876
I'd add a lot of Heinlein in this, it's so ridiculously immature while being preachy

>>10580896
A good rule of thumb is that if you think A Stranger in a Strange Land is preachy/silly, never read anything he wrote after that.

>>10580876
The fuck, remove all the garbage like Martin and Abercrombie etc. from this ironic list.

>>10580876
thanks I wanted to read dhalgren but forgot what it was called

>>10578172
I liked it up until 3/4 of the book. The ending sucked very much. Felt like the author didn't want to kill his perfect creation and then he just spewd shit out so he could have a happy ending, instead of the battle that would surely happen, and end with the spiders dead or defeated.
>space elevator OF SILK!
>EVA suits, OF SILK
>the power of love bites that will turn our enemies into our friends!

Reading Oathbringer right now, why is Kaladin such a fucking sensitive failure every time it matters? Also fuck that nigger moash I hope he burns for eternity.

>>10580876
What's wrong with Elric?

>>10580991
>he thinks that list is real

>>10580932
Waiting for you to come in here and rage about it like the Myke Cole anon did :3

>>10580982
Kalladin is such a drag, but despite that I find that he is the only POV character mildly tolerable (except maybe venli, but her scenes are so rare...). It's just everyone else is much worse.

>>10580994
>he thinks it's a meme

>>10578387
>mfw I am reading a book by her right now and hadn't even noticed
And I had just picked it up before she died.

>>10580900
I couldn't finish Stranger.. when it came to the scene with the main character advocating free/same love, followed by the hot lesbians making out, but when they then ask for the old guy to kiss the other guy they go 'haha noooooo'

I then tried Moon Is A Harsh Mistress (actually finished! the main guys have a literal god on their side), and Starship Troopers (feels like written by a wehraboo who's a little bit ashamed of going all the way in), you're right, I should've stopped after Stranger....

>>10581002
>he thinks girls don't laugh at him behind his back
Checkmate.

Is The Unreal and the Real by Le Guin any good?

>>10581086
Girls don't come in lit, much less sffg.
If they did we would be having a bunch of discussion about twilight, the host, and a plethora of romance novels.
Any "girl" in lit has a penis.

>>10580876
>lord of the rings
>dying earth
>conan

is this some sort of post meta irony chart or something?

>>10581045
stranger was terrible but i did finish it. couldnt get into moon and dropped it fast. trooper is classic and youre a faggot

i don't know if i can wait till all the sequels are released
i want to kill myself soon but these are so interesting

sanderson used to make me hold off on an heroing(was thinking of doing it in 08), now i don't care if he finishes his cosmere or not he dropped the ball and is fumbling it since

>>10581295
>i really like a thing
>there is no way in all creation that others think its hot trash
>just no conceivable way people don't like what I like
>m-must be post meta irony meme chart
>y-yea

>>10581190
Boys don't read books, much less pictureless ones.
If they did we would be having a bunch of discussion about james bond, the halo novelizations, and a plethora of action/thriller novels.
Any "boy" in sffg lacks a penis.

>>10581323
what the fuck do you even like him for then if not starship troopers?

>>10581295
memeanon has post meta ironic tastes

>>10581329
>>10581323
oh sorry i thought you were talking about something else. you are still an idiot though

>>10581318
its weird. super sales came out of fucking nowhere and its really good.
dont care much for wild wastes but daniel black was kinda alright.

what sort of e-reader should I get, lads?

>>10581348
used, with e-ink

>>10581323
>those three books each literally created their own genre
>hot trash

At this point you can basically say they are objectively not bad.

>>10581327
>implying we don't do just that
What are Wild Wastes that keeps getting shilled and GRI rankings?

>>10581413
>implying women aren't the main audiences of yaoi rape and brocon

>>10580895
It is, but not because it hurts small presses. It's a miraculous boon to small presses, completely the opposite of what Le Guin attacks it for.

>>10581323
Literally a soyboy

>>10581318

is super sales on superheroes good ? i saw the cover and guessed it would be furshit so avoided it

>>10581501
I don't think you know what furshit is.

>>10581295
It's 50% actual shit (most of the new stuff) and then 50% le ebin dinosaur meme where anything old or even slightly complicated in prose is bad

>>10576746
is this the most heroic and beowulfian book to ever exist or the mostest heroic and beowulfian book?

in minutes, how long did manly tears stream from your eyes at the ending?

soibois need not strain their wrist responding to this post

>>10581580
>no capitalization
>reddit spacing
>manly tears
>soibois
You are my enemy.

>>10581592
meet me on the wresting field and not online and see what happens you filthy cur of unmanly virtues

>>10581592
hello little enemy

>>10581605
>user was given gold for this post

>>10581598
Even if the book is that good, don't act like such a fag.
>>10581605
>
Be honest, what site did you just come from?

>>10581619
>Be honest, what site did you just come from?
I didn't really think it would work but it's a direct quote from a book I just finished and it was necessary to indicate the italicization somehow.

>>10581619
oh! how he recoils from a challenge like some summer milk maid! perhaps you will send your woman to fight in your stead? in truth i would welcome it! i hear talk that the womenfolk in the lands of reddit lead the family and that the men prefer the company of themselves! oh ho ho ho!

>>10578767

So read Tess of the Durbervilles if that's what you want to read about, this is supposed to be FANTASY

>>10581592
>le reddit spacing meme
>"I totally didn't come over to 4chan with the rest of the donald guys!!!"

>>10578791
someone at my uni's literature department did a dissertation on obituaries, it was actually a fantastic read

>>10581190
>Any "girl" in lit has a penis.

That explains why all the "girls" in here only read female authors who write about homosexual/tranny characters

>>10581327
>If they did we would be having a bunch of discussion about james bond

James Bond novels aren't sff but they are all better than the movies based on them.
>James visits his Turkish contact
>Guy has some nubile Turkish girl chained under his table for disobeying him
>James, upon discovering this: "oh ho ho you incorrigible scamp! Now back to business..."

Highly recommended

>>10579489
Thanks, senpai

So I'm currently on Chapter 10 of Eye of the World and holy damn. Everything that happens is so random and generic.

Don't get me wrong, it's enjoyable.

I started reading book 2 of Dune and I'm actually surprised about how big of a nosedive did the dialogue take. I'm some 20 percent in (reading on Kindle, not counting pages) but fuck me, nothing that worked in the first book works in this one and it's not for the lack of trying to mimic the original. Alia is such a shitty character, her entire tsundere act is something that creative writers of upwork can slap together with no effort; lore is going nowhere, nothing interesting on the horizon but first and foremost WHY IS THE DIALOGUE SO BAD

>>10582178
youre not supposed to read 2 or 3

1-4-5-6 is the dune collection

>>10582206
Nigga if I go straight to 4 I'm gonna lose a shit-ton of context

Anyway it's really bad

So I picked up Wizard's First Rule a few weeks ago and am about 100 pages in and this book is fucking awful. Am I missing something or is it just bad?

>>10581854
straight girls seem to really like gay stuff though.
All of my girlfriends and female friends who read did.

It's not as if guys hate lesbian stuff lol

>>10582244
Goodkind is awful and he gets drastically worse as he goes on lol
post 9/11 goodkind is so bad it's hilarious

Here's a collection of his worst bits: http://sandstormreviews.blogspot.com/2006/08/goodkind-parodies.html

I fucking love are terry

>>10582235
no you won't because there is a 3 thousand year time skip after 3. all you need to know is that leto put sandworms on his skin and accepted the responsibility to follow something called the golden path that paul refused to do

thats literally the only take away and it even happens in a single chapter i think

>>10582244
>>10582339
to add a bit more info he took off because people were fucking clamouring for epic fantasy when he started wiring and he was able to bang books out right fast so he was popular with his publisher and marketed hard

>>10577271
Is the main character in this also sort of an asshole at least early in the series or just the eyeless NTR guy that everyone shits on?

Hey /SfFg/ I have an idea for a cyberpunk book.
The idea is that Technology has been made that provides humans with the capability of immortality but it costs the users their memories.

What do you guys think? Does this sound too similar to already made books?

>>10582365
Neither. I don't understand what you mean about eyeless NTR guy. Is it like in hentai, where there's a stock guy just to fill the role of being ntrd? Because it's not that, he is just a victim of circumstances.

>>10582459
It's a pretty common trope mien friendo

>>10582503
Looking up more on goodreads about it people say there's next to no sexual contact, from that anons post I was expecting a GRI fest. It does seem almost universally praised though, might as well add it to my reading list.

>>10582521
well fuck

>>10582178
ive read 1-5 and i promise you that it will just get worse and worse. quit now and do not waste your time on this piece of shit series. ive only read through it because i was working abroad with nothing to read for a couple of weeks.

>>10582611
God Emperor is such an upgrade from Messiah and Children though

>>10582621
upgrade yes but still a horrible waste of time. just thinking of those descriptions of becoming a worm makes me cringe.

>>10581653
We all read Stone Sky just use brackets to emphasis. You reddshit using normie.

>>10582459
Read:
>Clarges
>Altered Carbon
SLOPE SLOPE SLOPE

>>10582459
There's no point to write cyberpunk anymore because pretty much all the concepts they wrote about in the genre is just reality nowadays.

>>10583073
There's still brain interfacing, ubiquitous virtual and augmented reality, biohacking and genetic modifications to come.

>>10583073

Write about reality like if it was ciberpunk then,

Purely out of curiosity, is there any fantasy that makes the hundred-handers of greek myth into Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva of hindu myth?

>>10583223
i dont know the name but i remember a novel about a greek guy who got blessed by asura and that guy would go around being all angry and spread additional arms and fight with them.
basically asuras wrath but greek. terribly sorry its been a while but i think the book is well known and was written in the late 80s or early 90s.

Any Sci-Fi/Fantasy book centered around a casino worth reading?

>>10583258
I feel like there needs to be more cohesive mythology crossovers

Abrahamic myths are partially compatible with Norse, Egyptian, Buddhist Canaanite and Voodoo. Buddhism is compatible with all eastern religions. Classical works with egyptian, abrahamic, and hindu

The problem is there are so many weak connections

>>10582459
What kind of memory? long term? short term? does it affect only specific memories or random memories? are memories routinely deleted or only once?
However I think the most important thing you should consider is how direct human interaction ie society on the most basic level is affected by this technology

>>10583288
well technically speaking a lot of abahameic religions have their roots in keltic relgion which in turn has their roots in nordic religions which then in turn stems from greek religion. egyption mythology also has roots in the greek. for example basted the "love" goddess was earlier depicted as bast the war goddess. historians belive that bastet, aphrodite and athena are one and the same goddess.
its really hard to find proof though. because a lot of knowledge is lost or has been subject to historic revisionism. for example im facinated with pre islam arabia. shit was so different and actually quite interesting before islam came around and fucked over an entire people. unfortunately its very hard to find information because islamic clerics engaged in historic revisionism only topped by the romans.
for example theres strong evidence that the "djins" or devils, or now the islamic devil. were actually supposed to be gods before islam. similarly to how japanese culture had minor gods for just about anything and everything in all locations. sometime during the transition into islam for arabia a lot of the cultural norms got twisted and so the djins, which used to translate into spirits in the old arabic, became devils in modern arabic.
but im trailing off.
point is its hard to find crossover because a lot of authors like to base their fiction in reality and history.
unfortunately a lot of it is just gone or missing. so people dont want to try.
there have also been a few cases where authors tried but been called racist for daring to cross over lets say voodoo with christian paganism.

>Dunsany's writing habits were considered peculiar by some. Lady Beatrice said that "He always sat on a crumpled old hat while composing his tales." (The hat was eventually stolen by a visitor to Dunsany Castle.) Dunsany almost never rewrote anything; everything he ever published was a first draft.[12] Much of his work was penned with quill pens, which he made himself; Lady Beatrice was usually the first to see the writings, and would help type them. It has been said that Lord Dunsany would sometimes conceive stories while hunting, and would return to the Castle and draw in his family and servants to re-enact his visions before he set them on paper.
tfw you're not rich and aristocrat enough to write real fantasy

>>10576746
>Last Sff Book you read
Over Sea, Under Stone
>Shill it if it's Good and not discussed regularly
Eh, it's a simple "kids unravel a plot and search for a mcguffin in a small town" adventure. Nothing terribly exciting until the end. I have the rest of the series to read but I am staggering them.
>Next Book you are going to read
I am currently reading Time of the Twins and am around halfway through I believe. It is okay enough for what it is but I feel like the pacing is a bit slow.

Anyone have recs for a story that's low on combat? Don't have to avoid combat altogether, but I'm interested in something that focuses on stealth/intrigue/politics/magic/etc, where characters use indirect means of getting what they want.

>>10583267

Not a whole book, but the first few chapters of the 2nd Gentleman Bastard book takes place in an island casino. MCs are trying to perform an Ocean's 11-style robbery.

>>10583323
>voodoo with christian paganism.
Thats Seth Skorkowsky's Valducan series

/sffg/, is this a bad way to introduce a character?

>first chapter with a different POV character
>character spots a armed robbery in progress and quickly dons a homemade superhero outfit (note: this is not a capeshit setting) only to freeze up when the perp points a gun at her

>>10583001
I will try better next time senpai :(

>>10583967
Cherryh's Cyteen. Follow it up with Regenesis. That should sate your lust for political torpidity :3

>>10584259
So Sanderson's Rekconer's series, book 1?

>>10583073
Not at all, cybernetic upgrades and True AI aren't real life. And corporations haven't completely taken over government.

>>10584416
>And corporations haven't completely taken over government.

>>10584416
>corporations haven't completely taken over government

>>10584416
>And corporations haven't completely taken over government.
They actually have in the city of Monterrey. There's all kinds of cyberpunk things happening around us, like that sex offender camp under a bridge in Miami or the Amazon Door, it's just not raining all the time so we don't notice them.

>>10584416
>corporations haven't taken over

>>10584416
>corporations haven't completely taken over government

>>10576865
shadow of the torturer
it was just icky and weird

>>10584493
Except the sex offender thing has noting to do with corporations, it's about restrictions about living close to schools and parks.
Real life is still nowhere near the cyperpunk level where corporations are completely unchecked and national borders barely exist.

>>10584668
>Except the sex offender thing has noting to do with corporations, it's about restrictions about living close to schools and parks.
Yeah, and Miami set rules that were so strict there was literally nowhere in Miami-Dade County a sex offender could legally reside except for the airport and under a bridge. And four about four years they had to report to the shantytown under that bridge every night, enforced by tracking anklets. That's pretty cyberpunk, I don't care if a corporation didn't do it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Tuttle_Causeway_sex_offender_colony

>>10584542
>>10584507
>>10584470
>>10584464
They haven't, they've just taken over everything else. They want us to beg them to rule.

>>10580876
Someone recommended Trudi Canavan to me, what's wrong with the series?

>>10584723
Age of white, and black magician were kinda good. The new series is complete trash.

>>10584723
It's not good

t. likes every other Canavan book except that series

>>10581580
Read the sequels, they're different but still 10/10

>>10581669
Anon, wherefore dost thou, that art a man of valour, speak on this wise? Good friend, it is not for words of reviling that the Gods will give victory. For in our hands is the issue of war; that of words is in the council. Wherefore it beseemeth not in any wise to multiply words, but to fight.

>>10581924
Yeah. And as the books go on, you realize that things that happened 3 or 5 books ago were for a very specific reason.
But I do think that book 1 was much less well planned than the rest yeah. If you enjoy the first book, you will probably like everything until book 5 or 6 included. Then it's a matter of deciding if you want to push through increasingly slower books until the 10th or so.

>>10576746
Halfway through Senlin Ascends.
I love it. Everything I expected from it and more. Whimsical, picaresque, filled with wonder and brutality. Even though you can see where half the plot-lines are going they still are interesting enough.

>tor promoting myke cole
lol I thought they had some standards

>downloading some books
>#ebooks has "RIP Ursala Le Guin" up
>Ursala
lol

>>10576746
>Shill it if it's Good and not discussed regularly (that means no like lightning, botns, conan or three meme problem)
you realise if you take about Lightning I have no choice but to shit Kant's Wild Ride II: Gay British Holidaymakers

What do you think is behind the current trend of adapting every SFF work at least slightly suitable as a film or TV show? Do you like it?

>>10585617
>Do you like it?
An adaptation can be great (LotR and Blade Runner comes to mind) but it feels like many modern examples are just popularity driven cash grabs.

>>10585621
Blade Runner is not a good adaptation. It's pretty to look at and has a great soundtrack. But otherwise it's completely gutless and also has one of the worst romances in movie history.

>>10585617
Scifi prospers in the literary medium, and while it can certainly be used as rationalisation for a lot of excellent visuals which the visual medium revels in, very rarely are such sights supported by solid ideas.

>>10585628
I consider it a good adaptation partly because how different it is from the source material. It's obvious that the creators had their own vision.

About the rest, that's like just your opinion dude and I do not agree.

>>10585617
I would guess it has something to do with the exploitation of "geek culture" which has been going on for a while now with the likes of capeshit. So why not trot out some hollowed out, dumbed down version of a book for that audience to chew on. Why not? Even stuff like I, Robot and I Am Legend went over pretty well earlier despite being poor adaptations.

>>10585617
BOtNS AAA quadrilogy when?

>>10585656
I think it's that, in combination with the extreme success of Game of Thrones, and other costly series with similar formats, that have driven the trend. SFF adaptations in film is not really a new trend, but well made TV-series are.

>>10585723
I'm not sure if I want that.

>>10585725
Well-made is relative. But there's no doubt that TV series fit the longer and more bloated contemporary SFF since there's no way you can fit all that shit into a movie. While the classic stuff is usually shorter and more lean and some of them could conceivably be made into good movies.

>>10585512
Why would they do that? The books (read the shadow ops prequel and 3 books) should have featured bookbinder/ w.e his name was. The one that used rogue's power from xmen. The logic in those books were horrendous, I gave it the benefit of the doubt thinking it would get better... It got worst.

I don't think someone who was thoroughly brainwashed by their gov, and still spouts their propaganda, should wrtite books about soldiers in secret blacker then black ops fighting back against the gov. The guy was all over the place, and not in a good way.

>>10585600
>dat pic
Why do I feel like you are trying to shill the meme itself?

>>10585749
because I miss-spelt shill as shit, that's why
i don't see the point of your image, honestly. I don't post much anymore so I may not be receptive to your irony if you've read Thing Itself and enjoyed it but complaining about it's philosophical themes are pretty pointless, given it's self-admitted admission into the Scifi-Philosophy genre

Russian cover of "Heroes" by Joe Abercrombie.

Almost halfway through this and I'm enjoying the hell out of it.

>tfw no not!Scottish loli companion

>>10585814
covers with no text are kino

>>10585512
>>10585745
you guys are just mad that big MYKE COLE is /fitlit/. motherfucker was in the military and he can bench like 500 pounds, and he's a better writer. you fat sci-fi nerds and sandercucks need to back up.

>>10585740
Yeah, well made was a poor choice of words. I was thinking about expensive sets, "real" actors, decent CGI etc.

Is Lyonesse by Vance good?

>>10585768
>i don't see the point of your image
The point is philosophags should go to /his/ or stay in other lit. You cunts memed me into reading 3 philosophy circle jerks, and they were all shit. When I came to complain, you said those(the things I complained about) is what made the book so good.
The image was made because you were trying to shill this (new meme then) to unsuspecting anons. I remember what you did to me and had to put a stop to it. It's the same u underhand tactics you used in shilling botns.

Someone asked for something, e.g incest, and because a certain personage trained in the arts of inflicting as much pain as possible for the longest periods of time without death, fucked his grandma before she was his grandma, you scream from the rooftops that botns is filled with incests.
Someone asks for books with current day spacecraft? Botns because there is the man on the moon painting in the book

philosophags kys

>>10585864
>kino
Why are yall invading our board?? There are no horny for thorny, no cunnies, no nick girls, no ariel winter and her other loli friends here. Why do you stay?
>>>/tv/

>>10585942
Read this, Gemini cell and the other 2 books in the series. Then get back to us.

>>10585978
>muh botns
>muh botns
You should probably reread BotNS.

>>10585991
>Why do you stay?

for the literature kino

>>10585995

Is really that bad?

Bad writers with sucess give me hope; at least I might even have a chance in life even if only for one or two years.

Daily reminder that your favourite book is shit.

this is now in my top 5 /sffg/ books

some parts were just stunning. disturbing, and stunning.

>>10585956
Yes.

>>10586051
>all these interesting books you've never heard about
Putting it in my backlog.

>>10586109
One of my favorites too. Haven't brought it up in a while though.

>>10584607
>shadow of the torturer
>it was just icky and weird
>icky and weird

Is there such a thing as a woman who isn't a brainlet? Because I've never seen it

>>10586272
I sometimes think that this kind of sentiment grows from the scourge of one child households.

>>10585745
>I don't think someone who was thoroughly brainwashed by their gov, and still spouts their propaganda,

Wtf are you talking about, also "their" is not singular

>>10586051
tell us your other 4 before I will consider even looking into this. Although the cover does look nice.

>>10586291

I had three siblings including a sister, and my biological parents never split up, this is why I am capable of viewing gender objectively and not through the lens of maternal fixation like the average fatherless only-child soyboy feminist

>>10583293
Upper class users can pick and choose which memories they want deleted while the middle and lower classes are just subjected to random memory deletion. Every 2 years memories will be deleted to cover a chunk of their immortality. So for now i'm gonna say a memory wipe will equal out to 1-2 years of extra life Maybe even three. There would be different types of immortality deals that you could buy from the company that would discount the amount of memories you would need to sacrifice in order to live longer.
The more money the user can pay them the less memories they would give away.(This would apply to upper, middle, and lower class users)

>tfw really loved Hyperion and wanted to experience something similar again
>start reading pic related
>Hockenberry's parts are 10/10. fun as hell,
>the other humans' story (Ada, Daemon, etc) kind of reminds me of old golden age sci-fi, 5/10 ("what is...?" gets old very quickly)
>the robots story is fucking nonsense (cba hard sci-fi), at least untill they meet the LGM, 3/10. Gets better at the end when their story intertwines with Hockenberry 7/10
>finish this mediocre piece of shit nonetheless and now I see there's a sequel

should I keep going? It was far worse than Hyperion and really didnt like anything other than Hockenberry's parts.

>>10586337
forgot pic

>>10576746
I kinda want to get back into scifi/fantasy books, but I have no fucking idea where to start. The last time was about 6 years ago
Any good things to get started? Preferably scifi

How likely is wild wastes to make me cum?

>>10586362
Do people seriously fap to words?

>>10586409
>>>/trash/ftt

>>10586362
not likely. its pretty vanilla.
honestly id almost not even call it erotica.

I read most of Super Sales, and the first two books of Daniel Black (and a little of the third). They're complete garbage, that anon awhile ago was right; just harem building and building building. I've read fanfiction of significantly higher quality. I regret reading so much of them before coming to my senses dropping them.

>>10586317
Okay then.

>>10586409
To ideas in their head you mean? Yes

>>10586297
>also "their" is not singular
Is English your second language? Singular they, including their, is commonly used and have been for literally hundreds of years.

>>10586350
What non SF&F do you like?

>>10586420
Nice

>>10586590
Problem is I don't really know.
I haven't read much non SF/F at all. But I would probably prefer thrillers and avoid anything comedic or romantic

>>10586613
Have you simply not read during the last 6 years? Altered Carbon is a decent, somewhat modern cyberpunk story that is also being turned into a TV show so having read it will give you pseud points among your friends, assuming that you have any.

>>10586709
Thanks for the tip, might read it very soon
>Have you simply not read during the last 6 years?
yes. (aside from studying obviously)

ID THE BOOKS/AUTHOR

I remember reading a series, post-apocalyptic in nature people had to live inland, couldnt use technology because the apocolypse was some technodampening goo or monster

starts off in australia, pretty sure the author was australian, one of the early plot points was the a 'librarian' (who wsa more like a general) using a cadre of people taught math as an artillery computer

early 00's

>>10586718
The charts in the OP is also a good place to look. The sci-fi charts are not perfect but better than the fantasy counterparts and once you've found a book that seem good you can always ask.

>>10585840
>not!Scottish
So Scottish? Because not and ! means the same thing, you basically ask for a notnotScottish loli companion.

>>10586445
So what's some good ball busting stuff then. I was lead to believe wild wastes would get my rocks off

>>10586794
Just use your imagination senpai.

>>10586794
The premise of Super Sale sounds hotter desu.

>>10586820
Do they even fuck in that book?

>>10586820
super sales isnt erotica.
and so far it isnt really harm building either.
i mean mc gets to date two chicks but thats really about it. and when something happens its always fade to black or sex related quips here and there.
if you want erotica wild wastes and daniel black is probably your best bet for erotica geard towards men. daniel black is mostly about magical engineering though and while sex happens and isnt blacked out its taking a backseat to action and plot.
wild wastes is more traditional erotica its about a guy going around collecting a harem of monster girls and railing them. its pretty vanilla but it features some fun twists. for example driads seem to all be cuckqueens. orcs like snu snu like amazons. and elves want to be bitten and chocked.

How was Iron Gold?

>>10586794
try these:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34063396-the-heartstone-saga
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29143606-good-intentions
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35825875-the-amazon-s-pledge

Just finished The Forever War.
Pretty compelling, but I'm disappointed the Taurans didn't turn out to be future-humans locked in an infinitely recursing war with themselves.

>>10585723
>>10585736
i absolutely want that. but who would direct it?

He killed billions

>>10586959
George Miller or Denis Villeneuve.

Or Peter Jackson, if he could only keep himself under control.

>>10587004
>gas mask
Is there any signs in the book that the Torturer mask is actually a gas mask?

>>10587013
>peter jackson
if its pre-hobbit jackson yes.
post-hobbit jackson no.

>george miller
i feel like this is too subtle for him

>denis villeneuve
that would be nice but id rather have nolan.

>>10587048
>implying the lotr movies or king kong are any good

>>10587048
>if its pre-hobbit jackson yes
Yeah, that was implied.

>i feel like this is too subtle for him
We're talking about the dude that directed Babe. Also, the amount of story and characterization Fury Road, a film about driving there and back again while hardly talking, manage to pull of makes me quite sure he'd be able to be subtle enough. But I admit, it's somewhat of a wild card.

>nolan
Duno. I have not watched Dunkirk and hated both Interstellar and 4u but his earlier movies are great. Could work.

>/lit/ is making fun of us again

When will the bullying stop?

I just finished reading Tarzan of the Apes last night, and it was pretty good. Should I continue with the other books in the series, or check out Barsoon by the same author?

>>10587158
Slightly off topic eh?

Anyway, l liked The Return of Tarzan but have not read the rest.

>>10585978
I look into every read I book, if you've gone into books blind then been dished up what you weren't expecting/ready for then it's your own fault. Anyway Lightning and Thing Itself are usually recc'd with an attached "contains philosophy circlejerking" tag.

>>10586337
nah ilium sucks

>>10587129
Who the fuck even browses outer lit?

>>10587251
Pseuds.

>>10586853
Pretty sweet tb h, plenty of Golds dueling and Darrow and Sevro killing fools and being bros, some superfluous plotlines but they weren't too obnoxious, plus we get to see into the lives of the other colors a bit which is nice.

>>10586736
Souls in the Great Machine. Idea goldmine, I didn't like the characters so much though.

new thread please

Any sci-fi horror recommends?

>>10587694
I second this

New Thread
>>10587828
>>10587828
>>10587828

>>10586786
>assuming the (((law of the exclude middle)))
I shiggy diggy