/lit/ - Literature

No hope for you.

>>10488519
waiting for the barbarians

No lit I can suggest at the moment, but I understand your struggle. It's never too late to make up for the folly of the past, there will always be some holier-than-thou moral purists who will shun you, but the rest of us will welcome you with open arms.

The Gospels.

The novels of James Baldwin
The novels of Charles Johnson
Poetry of Countee Cullen, James Emmanuel, and Langston Hughes
Native Son

>>10488519
There's no book that's going to make you magically love brown people and immigration. However, there are books that'll help you have less of a stupid opinion on the matter.

>>10488519
May I suggest you read James Mason's magnum opus SIEGE?

>>10488541
what are they

>>10488519
Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison is one of the greatest modern novels and no-one talking about it reveals how /lit/ really doesnt know anything

>>10488543

>>10488543
Oh you must have mistaken me for someone who doesn't have stupid opinions on things, because I do.

>>10488547
>bell hooks

fucking lel

>>10488544

>/lit/ really doesnt know anything

I'm shocked

Read the Bible and the writings of the Church Fathers. "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, man nor woman. All are one in Christ Jesus."

>>10488559
Libshits have already pozzed christianity. Look to any of those progressive churches: their sacraments are sodomy, abortion, and racemixing, they have rejected the gospel for LGBTWTF totalitarianism. Christianity is but the refuge of the Weak. Hitlerism is the only way if you want to avoid total destruction.

>>10488574
I sense a lack of faith in you, friend.

>>10488574
>implying Eastern Orthodoxy is pozzed

>>10488574
>>10488583
>>10488615

go away

>>10488519
you got there in a stupid way, no way to help you now. sorry

>>10488519
I have actual advice for you if you aren't baiting:

I come from a family with racists, my grandmother was one, her side of the family were and we have stubborn conservatives all over our extended family. There is no book that can untangle or undo any warped logic that was impressed upon you as a child, it's not magic. You will live with it for years, maybe your entire life if you don't try to gradually unlearn all that shit. No book is out there to "fix" you, what you need to do is go into the world and meet the people who you think poorly of, see them as American...as human. Work in poor minority neighborhoods, go out of your way to meet the communities you were told to dislike. Over time, whatever sort of hold those beliefs have on you, it will subside...not go away though.

If you care about becoming a better person, understand that it's for YOU. Nobody will give a fuck about you as a racist, bigot or whatever. You've possibly more or less, have already isolated yourself from those around you.

undo the damage for yourself, not them. Undo that damage to live with your own sense of self, so you can be proud.

a little bit of humor will probably help you along your path to developing intellectual and emotional empathy. Invisible Man is a great choice for this.

>>10488519
You're a non white, aren't you?

>>10488689
Let LGBT freaks rape ur children because muh empathy bro

>>10488615
Orthodox has problems of its own

>>10488642
He's baiting. He wants to pull the cucks out of /lit/'s shadows and trick them into going on a self-righteous, pretentious, and condescending diatribe, and, well. You fell for it

>>10488711
yeah anything for you big boy

>>10488715
I'm not

>>10488715
Please, explain to me how anything I even remotely said was "self-righteous, pretentious and condescending" you /pol/nigger?

>>10488642
As someone who grew up in a 'progressive' household, I can tell you that people like you are the problem. Your family deserves better than an ungrateful little shit like you.

>>10488724
>non-racists are the problem
kek, go on and give me your analysis on how I'm ungrateful?

>>10488574
>LGBTWTF totalitarianism.
I fucking wish, that would be amazing. Like a genuine Springtime for Hitler production.

>>10488724
literal nonsense, don't post again.

>>10488724
>you're the problem
>being racist isn't
lol the state of you.

>>10488519
Read Chesterton. You can still be a conservative, but without being angry at everything all the time

>>10488734
Nothing and nobody says he can't be conservative while at the same time, not be racist.

>>10488738
I don't think that's true

>>10488733
'racism' means rejecting the totalitarian nwo agenda in any way shape or form. Fuck your cultural Marxism

>>10488742
You are probably wrong.

>>10488743
uh-huh....

>>10488742
You realize I'm saying he can be a conservative and not be a racist at the same time, right? Did the negatives confuse you?

People who go on witch hunts for "racists" in the current year deserve to be shot. Racism is a natural human response you've been conditioned by prole-feed to believe is unnatural since you're too stupid to realize it ain't going nowhere but up in a multicultural country.

>>10488750
Oh. Your statement confused me

>>10488752
>Racism is a natural human response
It's not though, it's literally a learned behavior...

You're a fucking goof.

>>10488756
>tribalism is learned

>>10488729
>non-racists are the problem
No because you're not just non-racist, there is no 'neutral ground'. If you have an opinion on how people should treat race then you're more than just "non-racist". The fact that you call people racist shows that you have taken up a side in this argument. You're not just ignorant of race or unaware that it exists, no, you've been confronted with the fact that it exists and are choosing to believe that it does not exist. I have no problem with people who are somehow ignorant of the argument, who are innocent of the entire debate. But you are not that.

>>10488732
literal nonsense, don't post again

>>10488733
Screw off commie

>>10488519
no literature, but I suggest you move to a black area that's not full of skyscrapers, and just take it in
go to grocery stores, go to thrift stores, go to churches, say hi to your neighbors, all that
you'll see the bad apples, and there are a lot of them, but you'll also see the good
if you go somewhere super urban it'll be harder to see the good (and some of the bad) because everyone's in their own little world and you can get everything you need in the space of a few blocks
I recommend the outer parts of Flint, Michigan
>I don't want to die
they're fixing the water and the shootings, while tragic and fucked up, are not random, and no one's done drive-bys in ages
if you keep your head down no one will fuck with you
in fact, keeping your head down is basically part of the moral code in black communities
the above should apply just as well to Latinos, although with the potential language barrier and more foreign cultural bits incorporated, things will be harder

>>10488519
>read neezsctcha
>become ubermench
>die riding nuke missle into north korea

>>10488762
>>tribalism is learned
Yes. But that's not what you said, fuckface. You said "racism is a natural human response", which is false, 100 percent, certifiably false. Tribalism in human society didn't just magically become racial in structure, retard.

>>10488743
I thought the Jews were the ones pitting us against each other...?

>>10488763
>The fact that you call people racist shows that you have taken up a side in this argument
Wew lad, OP literally calls himself a racist. None of your post was even remotely in the realm of sense. Fuck off. If you need to white knight for racists, I'm sure there is a forum for that.

>>10488763
I told you not to post again. Your shit's retarded dude, you aren't convincing anyone of anything!
You look like a huge nerd with these embarrassing demonstrations. Go read a book. Think things over —grow up!

>>10488519
You don't really need books for this: ideological screeds are what got you into this. You don't need any more to get you out of it. Just be in the world as you are and talk to people as they are. Evaluate those who you come across on a case-by-case basis. But remember that otherwise good people can still have bad days, as I'm sure you have in the past. It's pretty simple.

>>10488519
Sorry bud but you'll never be allowed to retreat. However once you come out the other end you'll realize that the end point of all these isms is really just normal behavior. Find a nice church, marry a nice girl, have some kids, work hard and die surrounded by your grand children.

>>10488642
This will only increase racist sentiments. Was just in the post office today and there were two niggers casually talking about how they beat the shit out of their children. Naturally they were both getting money orders for like $30.

>>10488770
What you have been told is "racism" is completely natural and normal, it's a response to an outside threat that isn't going away. Stop being retarded.

>>10488763
>If you have an opinion on how people should treat race then you're more than just "non-racist"
Fucking wut? What are you even on about? I want to treat everyone fairly and under the same legal system, how on earth could you have a problem with that unless you suffered from autism?
>The fact that you call people racist shows that you have taken up a side in this argument
Holy fucking kek, is racism a "side" here?
>you've been confronted with the fact that it exists and are choosing to believe that it does not exist.
Well all those liberal cucks that work in genetics seem to agree with me...

>>10488574

lel

>>10488519
There's a difference between being a """"""racist"""""" and being a race realist. Denying that there is absolute differences between the races is retarded. Sorry to tell you this lad but once you get on the ride never ends

>>10488788
But it's literally not...

We've been doing actual sociological tests on children about this very topic for the better half of a century now. It's a learned response, my uneducated friendo.

>>10488792
>There's a difference between being a """"""racist"""""" and being a race realist.
KEK, oh boy...

>>10488797
sick argument faggot

>>10488787
>This will only increase racist sentiments.
Probably because you, yourself are already too far gone.

Who cares if racism is human nature? That doesn't make it right, and to say otherwise is to commit the naturalistic fallacy. Human nature SUCKS, screw that and do what's RIGHT.

>>10488792
wow this picture of 10 people really convinces me

>>10488800
I'm not going to argue why you are retarded for calling yourself a "race realist" who sees nearly minute heterogeneous genetic differences between groups as some sort of race magic to sperg about. The fact that you're retarded enough to think race realism is even a thing...

>>10488792
You're still stuck in temporal scientism and you don't even see it.

>>10488784
>Ideological screeds
Otherwise known as observing reality.

^may have mixed up my fallacy names, I don't know shit. Whatever the name is for the fallacy where "natural = good".

>>10488519
>>10488792
Some more truth here friendo.

>>10488805
Anti racism is a totalitarian ideology

>>10488793
That's simply not true. You are being manipulated into believing in this prolefeed nonsense called "racism." You are a bickering peasant too stupid to realize that you have been coerced into believing natural human emotions and responses are bad. Be less of an idiot please.

>>10488815
Naturalistic Fallacy.

>>10488821
Yes, because look at all those racist 5 year olds yelling "niggers back to Africa", it's everywhere! I'm sure you're correct, it must be this elaborate conspiracy to accept people that are different than me...and we all know that's a big NO NO! Amirite, shadilay?

>>10488805
>Do what's right
Who are you to determine what's right?

>>10488812
Race realism is most definitely a thing. The equality doctrine that's been pounded into your brain OTOH is not.

>>10488826
>needs philosophy to not be a piece of shit
not surprised

>>10488826
Then who are you?

>>10488812
oh so you gave up a potential argument, I win then loser

>>10488812
The averages in trait expressions in populations matter especially when they are very prevalent, be them brown eyes in blacks or low IQ amongst negroid and negroid hybrid peoples. These kind of things matter because the kind of people you have in your society will dictate what it becomes.

>>10488825
You're just admitting that you have a childish worldview.

>>10488830
If that's what you need to think to go away, sure.

Someone make a "the virgin white male" vs "the chad black lesbian" meme

that will convince OP

>>10488816
good job thats only a chart of how groups broke up and it doesnt show all the massive interbreeding. swedes maternally have a haplogroup in common with the middle east and north of africa

>>10488825
These freaks, the marginalized victim groups so beloved of leftoids, particularly the gay tranny community, they try don't want tolerance, they want to be "accepted", that is celebrated, worshipped, they want to make everything revolve around them, every single aspect of the culture, they want to indoctrinate our children and make them hate themselves for who they are.

>>10488825
You should try to accept that you aren't very smart. You have been conditioned to think "racism" is the worst thing in the world and you are mindlessly reinforcing the party line because you're an idiot who doesn't think for himself.

>>10488826

I didn't claim to know what's right, heck I didn't even say racism was wrong (although imo it is). In fact I made no value judgements at all. All I did was say that "racism is human nature and therefore good" is a fallacious argument, which is a simple fact.

>>10488831
That's a genetic absolutism,Social Darwinist dystopian view of reality you mentally ill retard. Your type of people get really quiet when that argument is used against you though, don't you? When it's brought up that Jewish populations and Asians have leagues better general IQ dispersal in populations...but then it's "WELL UHHH, IT'S NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE REEE". It's all mostly a strawman for what it implies; that we should treat people differently based on genetic or IQ factors, the latter of which, is not even remotely an exact science. It's just a form of apologetics for racism, or phrenology.

>>10488519
Yeah, there's this book I learned about a while back you might be interested in. It's called "Quit Posting This Shit On Every Board" by "4chan Isn't Your Personal Army".

>>10488843
I don't even think racist think racism is "good". More like default.

>>10488842
>I'm conditioned to think racism is wrong, and this is bad.
Imagine living life like this.

>>10488776
>IF I CALL HIM RACIST HE'LL FEEL SHAMED
You're literally using communist jargon to shame a non-communist, how stupid can you be? People who white knight for pro-miscegenaters and oikophobes like yourself are the problem. You can try to push your 60s hippy bullshit all you want, but nobody is going to buy it grandpa.

>>10488779
I told you not to post again. Your shit's retarded dude, you aren't convincing anyone of anything!
You look like a huge nerd with these embarrassing demonstrations. Go read a book. Think things over —grow up!

>>10488790
>I want to treat everyone fairly and under the same legal system
Why? Why should a foreigner be given the same rights as me under my country's legal system? That doesn't seem fair.

> is racism a "side" here?
What are you even on about?

>Well all those liberal cucks that work in genetics seem to agree with me...
On what? 30 years of research has reached the conclusion that genetics at least than 50% explainable for cognitive differences between races. You're the one holding an anti-science position here. It's kind of comical that you would try to use science to defend yourself.
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.186.102&rep=rep1&type=pdf

>>10488852
Read Ragnar Redbeard dude, the boogeyman of racism and the myth of the holocaust are being used to enforce slave morality

>>10488845
That argument hasn't been seriously floated for quite some time now. These days it's based in the right to self determination & separation. Tons of 'racists' think it's great that those people are smart but they should be smart elsewhere.

>>10488852
>I want to be conditioned to think politically convenient falsehoods
Wew

>>10488845
High jewish and Asian IQ is strictly verbal and rote though, which is why they're uncreative people. Whites have more variance and more top level high IQ people overall, and have created 97% of everything because whites are innovative whereas those others are not. Please stop talking about things you don't understand.

>>10488836
And how much do you think those Swedes have in common with Sub-Saharan Blacks? You do understand that the sahara isolated the two human groups right? And that for the most part negroids were not intermingling with Caucasoid derived races due to geograghy up until the last millennium.

>>>>10488854

>Why should a foreigner be given the same rights as me

Why not? Because of the circumstances of their birth, which are in no way under their control? I'm sure they WANTED to be born in some third world shithole. Unlike you they actually WORKED to get into a better country. It took them effort to get through the bazillion tons of paperwork and shit.

>>10488854
>You're literally using communist jargon to shame a non-communist, how stupid can you be?
OP literally called himself a racist...
>pro-miscegenaters is a term I am using
fucking wew, lad.
>why should everyone be held up to the same legal standing, rights and privileges?
I don't know anon, maybe a first world society just ins't for you? Maybe Saudi Arabia is more your speed?
>30 years of research has reached the conclusion that genetics at least than 50% explainable for cognitive differences between races
Right, see now your conflating actual genetic information for "well hurr durrr dis means da niggurrss are subhuman because genes, amirite?" Again, it's some pseudo-scientific phrenology shit that genetics never even implies as a concept.
>You're the one holding an anti-science position here
Whatever you say, champ.

>>10488814
>Otherwise known as observing reality.
To those who can only observe the reality of this sublunary world, - sure. Personally I'd advise you to try and stop finding ideological pretexts to forgo forgiveness, but that is easier said than done and I am an anonymous nobody with zero stock in the personal trails of your life.

>>10488861

[citation needed]

>>10488559
This verse refutes the point you're trying to make. The Bible recognizes the distinctions between the sexes and between slave vs. free, and expects them to act in accord with their earthly positions. So by this logic, although anyone can be a Christian, Jews and Greeks still ought to act differently and fulfill different responsibilities.

>>10488861
>Whites have more variance and more top level high IQ people overall
Kek, see? This is where you /pol/niggers deflect to, no. Both of those statements (by your own bastardization of genetics and by your own logic) are absolutely wrong.
>only whites are innovative! Le invented everything meme
You're like a fucking child. Are you claiming every Roman and Greek achievement you fucking mutt faggot?

>>10488858
If they're born in your country, they're your countrymen, mate. If they become a citizen, they are your countrymen. You only have an argument for illegals.

>>10488787
white people just don't talk about it as much, I've met plenty that hit their kids, including the most Christian family I ever met

>>10488881
sick arguments faggot
oh wait, there are none

>>10488861

Einstein was a Jew you fucktard. Among so many other innovative and creative geniuses.

>>10488877
>>10488881
There's no debate here. You're out of your league.

>>10488642
Being around minorities is the fastest way to become violently racist
Those who prop up Muslims and blacks as "just cool people like you and me" live in rich 100% white communities and only know of these demographics from what they see in the token characters of TV and movies.
Drop every high-horse white "anti-racist" into an East Atlanta hood for an afternoon and see how fast they change their tune.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO4luf3PRC4&t=183s

>>10488859
>racism is okay and if you disagree with me, you are brainwashed
wew, indeed.

>>10488896
me: white anti-racist who actually lives in the middle of atlanta

what now bitch?

>>10488792
firstly that red hair isn't a natural red and I have doubts about the white-blond hair
secondly the eyes on the black side are all different shapes, while the eyes on the white side are pretty much all the same shape

>>10488894
Einstein was a plagarist everyone thought was stupid until he magically became a genius after working in a Swiss patent office.

>>10488895
lol what the fuck even is this chart? Isn't this from the book written by an ex-Klansman and "race realist"? The guy who used to be a researcher who lost his career over being a generally autistic piece of shit?

>>10488896
>Being around minorities is the fastest way to become violently racist
Nice cyclic gymnastic there, faggot.
>Those who prop up Muslims and blacks as "just cool people like you and me" live in rich 100% white communities and only know of these demographics from what they see in the token characters of TV and movies.
I'm barely middle class and my fiance was black.
>you will literally begin to hate EVERY BLACK person in the universe if you get beat up by a few violent ones
>you will then generalize that the entire black "race" is out to destroy you

>>10488793
And yet sociologists are adamant that white people have ingrained privilege that they cannot ignore. It's not that there's a gene that makes you hate other races. It's just that people prefer people who are like themselves, and this leads to them engaging in a soft nepotism. Every human "likes" themselves to some extent, so they favor people similar to themselves in a genetic sense.

>>10488903
Look at this non-white losing his shit and asking about a book title that's literally at the top. Please, this is a forum for white literature. You don't belong here and must leave.

>>10488913
>a book written by a race realist with no actual legitimate credentials and has been laughed out of every forum for the last 20 years
I was right, huh?

>>10488734
>Chest
Where start with Chesterton?

>>10488887
Sorry but a state is more than just its government. If you were given Chinese citizenship tomorrow it wouldn't make you Chinese.

>>10488875
There's nothing to forgive. It's not a crime or even a moral failing to recognize a group of things are distinct. Nobody's done anything wrong by not wanting to associate with other groups.

>>10488911
found the coalburner

>>10488902

>Albert fucking Einstein isn't a historic genius, because muh politics

Anyway don't be a smartass, Einstein was just an example. Literally just Google "list of Jews" or something.

>>10488871
>Why not? Because of the circumstances of their birth, which are in no way under their control? I'm sure they WANTED to be born in some third world shithole. Unlike you they actually WORKED to get into a better country. It took them effort to get through the bazillion tons of paperwork and shit.

the logical conclusion of leftist though can only be totalitarianism. They abandoned classical liberal principles as soon as they decided the problem was just not 'racism' but 'unconscious racism' an omnipresent bias that can only be detected and exterminated by properly trained and accredited bluehairs. Everything is racist, your children will be told how racist they are starting from preschool, your culture will be retroactively erased from history. And why? for an utopia of coffee colored consumers and couch potatoes, genderless, sexless, and cultureless creatures existing in a state of complete equality.

>>10488912
>And yet sociologists are adamant that white people have ingrained privilege that they cannot ignore.
Weird whatabout.
>It's not that there's a gene that makes you hate other races. It's just that people prefer people who are like themselves
And usually, it's based on actual need or desire, not race. I know you desperately want it to be though, but no kid is walking around his classroom sizing up where the niggers and spics are. It's based on resource management and interpersonal relationships, kids literally don't see race past basic appearance.
>and this leads to them engaging in a soft nepotism.
Nice made up term.
>Every human "likes" themselves to some extent, so they favor people similar to themselves in a genetic sense.
lol kids have no idea what genetics even is.

>>10488916
You are an idiot and I'm guessing a mudblood. Why are you on a white literature forum? Are you lost or something?

>>10488919
>If you were given Chinese citizenship tomorrow it wouldn't make you Chinese.
Is this an argument?
>Nobody's done anything wrong by not wanting to associate with other groups.
If your reasoning is absolutely retarded, then you just come off as...retarded. If you are irrationally afraid of entire swaths of people and associate them ALL with bad characteristics, then you're being a fucking ape.

>>10488927
I'm guessing you didn't bother to look up the author up? Funny how you didn't source the image...or the author...

Really grinds my almonds into almond milk.

>>10488921
No politics in plagarism. Jews are semites, and semites are uncreative people. This is just the way nature works.

>>10488519
Just start looking at blogs close to redpilling elements you like but that are evidently further from /pol/.

Try blogs like

https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/

https://hotelconcierge.tumblr.com/

https://samzdat.com/

http://theblondbeast.com/

https://exploringegregores.wordpress.com/

http://slatestarcodex.com/

And so on. This stuff has both deep suspicions of SJW content while all leaning to different degrees away from /pol/isms.

>>10488922
nice pasta.

>>10488924
>Kids don't know what genetics are, all racists BTFO forever
you truly are raising the bar lad

>>10488519
You took the redpill. There is no out. You had that chance at the start.
Maybe drinking will destroy your brain eventually.

>>10488937
That is fucking terrible advice, it will just spin him into another autism hole.

>>10488922

Fucks sake you're even worse than leftists when it comes to jumping from "my opponent expressed an opinion to the left/right of me" to "therefore my opponent is literally a Stalinist/Nazi". I defended the human rights of immigrants, so now I apparently am a radical leftist who hates white culture? It would be a tragedy if white culture was destroyed, but immigrants aren't destroying shit. Most just want a better life.

Mein Kampf.

>>10488933
I posted it and have read the book. You're the one who doesn't know what it is even though the title is literally right there. You must be a nigger. Why are you here pretending to care about literature? Just go, please.

>>10488519
If you want a serious response, I'd say that Richard Wright's Black Boy is a good book. It's pretty controversial but if you're willing to read it something with an open mind, it's definitely worth looking into.

>>10488944
> OY VEY GOY SHUT IT DOWN, DON'T LET HIM SEE OTHER PEOPLES OPINIONS
at least try to blend in Dr Sheckleberg

>>10488519
I don't think directly reading about class/minority struggle etc is completely nessecary to meet that end. As an undergrad I'd jerk my knee whenever someone pulled an "everyone has their own opinion," but while I still slightly do, just studying formal logic alongside a handful of continental subjects has made me a little more sympathetic to the general notion, which obviously happens to hang behind quite a few left wing ideas.

The other half of it is to not ascribe too much weight to what people are saying. For example, most generic center-right people hear the word "racist" and generate an image of some guy who says "nigger nigger nigger" behind people's backs out of spite, whereas most of the left uses the word to describe people who are simply "racially negligent" or something like that.

>>10488944
Better than the current one. He might get close enough to puss to sorta catch a whiff now.

>>10488941
Fucking Christ you are stupid. Your argument was literally that children can somehow magically smell or sense genes in blacks, which is pants-on-head retarded and even if you were correct, why don't we see ANY EVIDENCE of racial division in kindergarten? In early childhood-ed? We don't. If you were correct, white kids would constantly be pairing with only white kids, black kids only with blacks...this just doesn't happen enough to constitute any sort of "race-related" trend in childhood relationship bonding in early education. It just doesn't happen.

>>10488922
nice picture of a white person anon

>>10488928
>Irrationally afraid
I'm not afraid though. I've had plenty of very nice dinners and social interactions with all kinds of people. My best man was a Jew and the other groomsmen were all Mexicans and Argentines. Doesn't stop me from recognizing what they are and what I am. I want them to appreciate their own shit as well. It is a two way street after all.

And yes that is a rebuttal to the idea that all it takes to be my "countryman" is a slip of paper.

>>10428927

>unironically using fictional slur from a children's book

We've reached peak autism

>>10488946
are you talking about legal or illegal immigrants, because most people here are from America and the word "immigrants" to us means Mexican rapists

>>10488951
>I posted it and have read the book.
You didn't' read the book, if you even had a brain, you'd understand why the book is absolutely retarded.

>>10488960

I meant 10488927. I'm a phonefag, sue me

>>10488937
these links are organized in exponentially worse order

TLP is the only one i can tolerate HC is trying way too hard, is obviously derivative and very light on insight

>>10488959
>hey Pablo, come to my wedding
>JUST KNOW WHAT YOU ARE YOU SUBHUMAN! I LOVE YOU THOUGH!

>>10488788
>What you have been told is "rape" is completely natural and normal, it's a response to an outside threat that isn't going away. Stop being retarded.

>>10488957
implying that I was the same person you originally replied to
what a faggot
also people naturally prefer their own race, if your only argument against this is children below the age of 7 then you are beyond saving

>>10488970
>Subhuman
Damn you people really have hang ups about projecting your comical boogieman onto everyone.

>>10488963
> the book is absolutely retarded

The book you have asked the details of 3 times now even though the title is at the top?

You should feel extremely embarrassed by this performance and accept that you come from an inferior race, which is the source of your envy and anger towards whites, whose country you are currently squatting in.

Start with the Greeks

>>10488961

I assumed legality, if you are talking about illegals than please specify.

>>10488969
I agree that HC was try hard, but they've had a very different style all of a sudden since the summer that I think is a big improvement. And Samzdat reads just like TLP and actually focuses on the ideas TLP cultivated from authors like Lasch. The rest are literally in mind for someone like OP. I'm fine with the quality of the links not holding up after maturation.

>>10488869
> And how much do you think

it doesnt matter what much i think. what matters is the science of it. 'negroids' and 'caucasoid' are old ass terms no-one uses anymore because they were inaccurate. neither group existed until homo started to move up from subsahara to east africa. from east africa the first humans started and then traveled all around the globe. the oldest genetic haplogroups are in the middle east and south africa and they are the ancestors of every single human, so much that almost all genetic human variation can be found in little pockets of those parts of the world.

you're using looks which is the dumbest thing i can fathom. according to your stupid perception, youd probably place indigenous Australians in the same category as 'negroids' even though they are more genetically distant than europeans are. in fact, there are groups in subsaharan africa that are more genetically distant from each other than swedes are from subsaharan Bantu peoples. by the way, those 'negroid' people intermingled freely with north africans during Egyptian prehistory, you know the cradle of civilization right?

so yeah. youre a retard. stop posting this bullshit. its bad enough that the american education system sucks ass, now edgy teens have to make everyone else stupid too.

>>10488975
>also people naturally prefer their own race
Well, sort of. The correct answer is "sort of, not necessarily". There is plenty of actual research that suggests racial division is almost completely a learned response. When that isn't taught, you see multi-racial groups in classrooms. We've done this test over decades, with almost thousands of kids, in multiple countries and all the data is the same.
>hurr durrr but dat don't matter because they are below the age of 7
How does this make any sense to you? It shows that before any major concept is fully developed in their brains, they don't give a shit about race. Are you actually retarded? It's learned, it's not ingrained, it's not innate.

Fucking kill yourself.

>>10488519
You can check out any time you like,
but you may never leave

>>10488979
Despite the fact that you won't properly cite it, I looked up the title, looked up the book, looked up the author. What now, retard?

>>10488958
the ruling class under full nwo ZOG rule will be mostly Jews, aided by sick liberal whites and genderqueer degenerates, lording over the niggerizzed masses, masses hooked up to human cattle social algorithms designed to shut down crimethink

>>10488989
>Thinking niggers and North Africans were interbreeding during Egyptian prehistory

It would be like you fucking a dog.

>>10488993
>getting mad at someone over the internet
lol
also link all of this "actual research" that you keep bringing up, till then I don't believe a word of your female lies

>>10489004
What's the point? You're not going to fucking read it. How have you never looked it up before?

>>10489004

>calls someone out for being petty on the internet

Why the fuck are you on 4chan you fucking retard

>>10488996
It's not my job to make you less of an idiot.
>What now
You need to leave this white literature board. You don't belong here, and nor do you belong in the white country you currently reside in. Go.

>>10488993
>We brainwashed children
We know.

>>10488994
>I just read the allegory of the cave guys
every redpill poster

>>10489017
So you'd prefer to actually brainwash children and sit them down and make them hate everyone that isn't them? Yeah, that really helps with social cohesion... it would be a utopia, amirite?

>>10488994
>unironically posting this image
I'm convinced that /pol/tards legitimately sufferer from paranoid personality disorder

>>10489003

>>10489016
The book is spurious information that has been constantly criticized and the author has been kicked out of any modern discourse. You are easy to manipulate.

Lobotomy is the only way, after all, to greet and like the people who will destroy your country, kill you and rape you is unreal.

>>10489009
link it cunt, prove to me that it is real, the god old- time tested "look it up" doesn't cut it

>>10488924
>weird whatabout
You bring up sociological tests, I point out what sociologists are actually saying today.
>no kid is walking around his classroom sizing up where the niggers and spics are
Strange, because overwhelmingly in school kids make friends with, and date, people of the same racial group. There are of course exceptions. And I don't think it's a negative action; more that they just prefer their own group. And this is true not just of white people, but also of any racial group.
>nice made up term
thanks
>no idea what genetics even is
I literally mean people prefer others who, on average, fall into their self-identified genetic cluster. These clusters form when looking at allele frequency across thousands of various loci.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Genetic_Diversity:_Lewontin%27s_Fallacy
Read there if you're interested in Edward's paper.

>>10489021
>>10489024
>cant accept theories of /pol/ aligning with the current condition of the world
>thinks “the Jews” don’t exist despite very obvious evidence of the contrary
>gets skittish browsing /pol/ because of reading the hard r’s

useful idiots

>>10489029
Just stop. You didn't even know what it was a minute ago, spare me your critique.

>>10489023
>Wanting social cohesion
>Also wanting a multiracial society

The best you can hope for is parallel societies with strong trade relations. This multiracial utopia you're aiming for has never existed on a large scale in human history and in order to create it you're willing to use draconian measures to impose it. You're just setting up a house of cards.

>>10489002
then literally everyone is the end-result of dog fucking.

im so sorry that your retarded racism prevents you from accepting obvious things like "people on the same continent had sex with each other." im so sorry that your retarded racism prevents you from knowing that ancient humans flocked around the nile river and that the current sahara desert didnt exist till 3400 BC.

>>10489040
>he's fed that bullshit of "multicultural societies can't be cohesive" meme

>>10488993
>>10489034
I was interested to see if I could actually find any studies. I'm sure they exist, but what popped up when I actually looked is contained in the following link:
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=racism+learned+studies&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiF8bXAw73YAhUFyoMKHTatC3wQgQMIJzAA
Needless to say, nothing in there looks particularly promising. I would appreciate any of the sociological studies mentioned for my own personal reading.

>>10489037
>be a jew
>people tell me I think the jews don't exist
every time

>>10489036
>You bring up sociological tests, I point out what sociologists are actually saying today.
Right and I'll say again, that's a whatabout.
>Strange, because overwhelmingly in school kids make friends with, and date, people of the same racial group.
Where are you even getting that from?
>And this is true not just of white people, but also of any racial group.
It's a half-truth, but you don't give a shit. You'll parade it as an axiom.

You people take genetics, and try to reverse engineer it to support anything you want. It's mental illness.

>>10489045
I think "multicultural societies can't be cohesive" is just a fancy way to say "I, personally, cannot be cohesive in a multicultural society"

>>10489053
>be a jew
Sorry, why are you here on /lit/?

>>10489038
>an anon not knowing my race realist and the bullshit he peddles, makes HIM the dumb one ;)

>>10489062
why are you here fuck off. at least jews dont post dumb shit they learned from pol only 20 minutes ago on a literature board.

>>10489060
Are you retarded? There has never been a successful multicultural society but multiculturalism has a long track record of wrecking societies.

>>10489050
m8 I don't see how any of these studies have anything to do with what she was originally claiming. The closest one is the second link down which says "anti-racism is no more innate than racism, and needs to be learned–largely by text and talk" which goes against what she was originally arguing

>>10489062
Because my race's average IQ is higher than whites I guess, even according to pol?

>>10489045
>Everything I disagree with is a meme

>>10489041
There are barriers to mating other than geography.

>>10489072
>There has never been a successful multicultural society
USA, Canada and most of the first world live in relative peace, friendo. Saudia Arabia may be more your speed if you sperg out this easily.

>>10489071
You didn't explain why you're on a white literature board. Did you misclick on something or come in from b? Why are you here?

>>10489076
lying on the internet, not surprised, this is what Jews do

>>10489075
>which goes against what she was originally arguing
No it doesn't? The point was that racism is a learned response, which all evidence points to. Why does science bother you when it doesn't pander to your bullshit?

>>10489072
>There has never been a successful multicultural society
most successful societies are multicultural nowadays

>>10489072
There have been tons of successful multicultural societies you're probably just limiting yourself to the last 200 or so years

>>10489079
>There are barriers to mating other than geography.

geography is the only one you cared to mention and it turned out to be completely wrong.

man i feel bad for you. how much time have you wasted on this nonsense? at least i studied it because of my degree. you used your free time to learn nothing. rip

>>10489080
So your examples are countries that have been multicultural for 50 years and are already coming apart at the seams because of it? Having a dysfunctional class of post-slaves doesn't count as multicultural btw.

>>10489084
anti racism is also a learned response which all evidence points to. Why does science bother you when it doesn't pander to your bullshit?

>>10488519
READ SIEGE. The leftist enemy has won, it's no longer a contest in the united states, It's a matter of revolution. helter skelter is the only way. we gotta recruit the white normies as soldiers of the revolution, against their consent, since they are too craven and cowardly to stand up for themselves. Our job as national socialism is to as to reach the ultimate objective: Race War, when even the most craven of white cowards will be forced to fight for their miserable lives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo64nlKdA0k

>>10489086
You're talking about white countries that have declined as they've become more non-white.

>>10489087
No there have not.

>>10489072
>There has never been a successful multicultural society
What about Singapore?

>>10489082
Except it's true though. Even in /pol/'s edits of the sharah's scribbles comics they were modest enough to put the jew's IQ above the white IQ, because they know I'm right. Even on pol this isn't an uncommon belief.

>>10489072
> There has never been a successful multicultural society

> tfw when 'monocultural nations' are a modern phenomenon and the end result of multicultural fusions over thousand years of history

j-j-j-japan isnt multicultural

>>10489091
>the first world is "coming apart at the seams"
kek, are you one of those faggots who doesn't think Rome was multicultural?
>having people I don't like, doesn't count as multicultural for reasons
Sure thing, bud.

>>10489080
Pretty sure the U.S. fought a civil war over partial integration and currently is only being kept in check by a heavily militarized police force. Don't know what Canada's current situation is but almost everywhere else in the west is >80% white European.

>>10489105
>sharah
*Sarah's scribbles. I actually know someone who spells their name that way though.

>>10489093
What in the fuck is ant-racism? Just being normal and not mentally ill?

>>10489099
Fuck off CIA we know your tricks of entrapment

>>10489099
>as to reach the ultimate objective we must keep the chaos building, we must inflame racial tensions, we must encourage sjw crazyness and feed them

>>10489112
>whites exist, so this means free first world societies aren't multicultural
you people make no fucking sense. Europe is a collection of different cultures, your "whiteness" isn't a culture, are you going to lump together English and French culture as a monoculture? Stop...

>>10489104
Singapore is dominated by Chinese people and was only kept together by the authoritarianism of LKY.

>>10489108
Multiculturalism is what caused Rome to fall. It is not a strength, it's a weakness. Whites do not need non-whites to be successful.

>>10489055
>where are you getting this from
My own experience, but also some general indicators. The picture attached shows how people rank other races against the average attractiveness score. You'll note that with the exception of black and white men, people always rank their own race highest. There's more data here: https://theblog.okcupid.com/race-and-attraction-2009-2014-107dcbb4f060.. You'll note that there's a couple of exceptions every year in the male groups, but women almost always rank their own race highest, with the consistent exception of asian women (but even that is changing towards own-race preference).
>half-truth
I acknowledged there's exceptions. It's not a half-truth though; it's true much more than half the time.

I'm not even that big on race realism, other than acknowledging it's true. My own beliefs were first that racial differences existed, but I wasn't sure why; I thought maybe it was learned. Then I learned about crime statistics, and thought maybe there was something to a genetic argument. Then I learned about Lewontin's "more variance within than without" argument, and was convinced that races were arbitrary, but now I've learned more about genetic clustering and some weaknesses in Lewontin's arguments, so here I am. If new information comes out I'll switch again.

>>10489116
oh sick las you found a spelling error, you totally won.
In all seriousness im starting to believe you are a shill, no one that has access to a free speech website stays liberal for long, your either new, wicked old, or a shill

>>10489112
>almost everywhere else in the west is >80% white European.

> tfw 'white European' is a modern conception that happened because thousands of years ago everyone on the continent pillaged and raped each other

> tfw all european languages came as a result of multicultural fusions that started near the black sea

>>10489088
It's not my fault you don't know how a caste system works and couldn't infer that's what was meant by fucking a dog. Even today it's not as if every couple in the U.S. is interracial. In fact it's a very small minority of couples AND the majority of that minority are classified as "hispanic/white" which isn't really descriptive enough to be classified as interracial.

But I'm sure ancient Egypt was way more progressive.

>>10489075
Yeah I'm asking her for better studies cause those all look like bullshit.

Thoreau and Emerson. I used to spend a lot of time on pol as well OP. Simply outgrew it desu. All the shit about refugees being rapists and Hilary being evil is just a scam to help distract people from their empty lives. It’s better to read great literature. Lit is a half decent general forum.

>>10489128

change the subject completely from genetics good game plan

>>10488973
bumping this

>>10489127
>Can deconstruct 90 different flavors of whiteness and figure out that they didn't mix for the vast majority of European history
>In fact they fought countless brutal wars
>But niggers are made of fairy dust so it will work out

>>10489120
You're right I should have said >80% white European "natives".

>>10489050
>>10489034
>>10489004

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3973920/

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/10/new-evidence-that-racism-isnt-natural/263785/

https://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/jocn_a_00311

http://sites.psu.edu/aspsy/2017/03/25/racism-is-learned-at-an-early-age/

>>10489124
Could these attraction stats simply be a result of seeing, interacting with, and forming relationships with people of their own race more than people of other races?

>>10489142

if they didnt mix then why does everyone have mixed genetics? or did swedes just happen to have a large chunk of maternal middle eastern dna when they suddenly appeared out of the ice after being forged by the hammer of odin

>>10489126
>no one that has access to a free speech website stays liberal for long
You're actually brainwashed or have no idea what the world "liberal" means if you believe this.

>>10489117
Dude, read James Mason. The revolution isn't happening through the ballot. no real revolution does. Trump is a NeoCohen ZOG puppet. They are not letting us do it, we are going to have to do it IN SPITE OF THEM, over their dead bodies. If the movement was on the ground on Ferguson, those flames would still be burning. We need to smash the ZOG machine and rip it appart from the root.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrWhpSbVmmE

>>10489124
>https://theblog.okcupid.com
>and my anecdotes

>>10489124
>but now I've learned more about genetic clustering and some weaknesses in Lewontin's arguments
You have no idea what genetic clustering is and you must not have had great convictions outside of defaulting to race realism in the first place. You may just not be very bright? That's an option, do you go to /pol/? That answers all your questions.

>>10489155
bitch if you think "liberal" and "libertarian" mean the same thing these days then you need to look at some of the "liberals" on your local college campus, because they sure aren't libertarian

A world of deteriorating race relations unfortunately demands a highly racialized manner of thinking. These lines were drawn without our consent, and it seems they're only becoming more significant. Just try not to be hateful about it.

>>10489152
That's too easy for /pol/niggers...

>>10489153
Most people don't have that much mixed genetics. Having a stray haplogroup here or there could easily just be noise. Or do you think that some Swede who suddenly finds out they've got 1% Nigerian DNA is suddenly Nigerian?

>>10489164
>MUH COLLEGE CAMPUSES
>BEING LIBERAL IS BAD REEE!
So again I ask, what on earth do you think a liberal is...? What do you think I believe? Because I don't think you are some retard for being a fiscal conservative.

>>10489170
>the fact that almost every population has some level of mixed genes is just "noise"
kek, the gymnastics continue.

>>10488519
Don't worry, man. Roll with the blows. /pol/ is right about a lot of stuff and it's not easy to live in the world bearing the truth like that. Maybe read some existentialists and stoics.

>>10489171
Someone who pushes for a brand of scientific politeness so restrictive that it isn't worth living in.

>>10489152
if leftoids had their way, blue haired shrinks would be sent in to medicate you and ensure you are equally attracted to all beings regardless of age, race gender or species, because refusing to have sex with anyone is exlusionary and sexual preferences are queerphobic white supremacist social constructs!!! these people want to destroy you they want to systematically deconstruct everything that makes you , ''you'' and turn you into a generic consumer soyblob!

>THOSE WHO SURVIVE THE INITIAL PERIOD OF ABSOLUTE CHAOS, WILL CRAWL OUT OF THEIR HOLES AND TAKE UP THE STRUGGLE ON NEWLY EQUALIZED TERMS.... ANIMAL TO ANIMAL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLe2muuJ9fs

>>10489173
>/pol/ is right
There should really be a restriction that prevents the retarded from posting.

>>10489126
>In all seriousness im starting to believe you are a shill, no one that has access to a free speech website stays liberal for long, your either new, wicked old, or a shill
do you not see how recursive this reasoning is?

>People who disagree with me are actually shills, because noone here would actually disagree with me, because everyone who does is actually a shill, because noone here would actually disagree with me...

>>10489176
Okay, without the vague buzzwords, can you try rewording that into English? I don't speak reactionary or mentally ill, so WHAT exactly do you think I believe?

>>10489148
>cites the atlantic
we have a front bencher here

>>10489177
Interesting point,
Kudos for taking the time to type out a coherent and well thought out reply to my question

>>10489178
/pol/ is right about a lot. Most of the time /pol/ is simply righteous indignation and we do have a lot of reason to be upset about the way the world is going. I'm not they're right about everything, but sometimes they're on the ball.

>>10489148
And there are studies that show infants that have negative reactions towards other races. But what kids think doesn't really matter. Even adults who pretend to not be racist avoid blacks because there is an intuitive sense that blacks are more likely to harm them. This is a natural response. The suppression of it is what is not natural.

>>10489184
>ignored the ncbi and MIT studies
Get some finesse with you cherrypicking, retard. I accept your concession.

>>10489170
>Having a stray haplogroup here or there could easily just be noise

'stray haplogroup' isnt a scientific statement

20% paternal DNA is

>>10489172
You're the on postulating that some African tribe miracled its way into Sweden. But yeah I'm sure if you can believe that the concept of "noise" would be some serious mental gymnastics.

>>10489179
denying being a shill is actually what shills do, heh checkmate feggit
really tho if you stay on this website much longer you will learn that much of what you were taught in high school was meant to indoctrinate you lad, assuming you are American

>>10489187
>And there are studies that show infants that have negative reactions towards other races.
Infants don't know what race is anon, they can have negative reactions to people with enough of a tan. Surely you aren't still on the skin color = race level of thinking, right?

>there ARE studies
>like uh

>>10489187
>And there are studies that show infants that have negative reactions towards other races.
...that's...no. It doesn't have to do with their race.
>But what kids think doesn't really matter.
lol what?
>Even adults who pretend to not be racist avoid blacks because there is an intuitive sense that blacks are more likely to harm them. This is a natural response. The suppression of it is what is not natural.
I hate to correct you, but not everyone walks around thinking "every black is out to kill me" like some paranoid faggot. I'll reiterate, my fiance was black, how does that factor into your paranoia?

There is no research or data to defend that racism is an inherently natural response, sorry. The science doesn't support that.

>>10489190
Not him but what are you trying to say here? You're aware that whites used to live throughout the middle east, right?

>>10489178
aw sick argument faggot, you really got him with that one

>>10489192
if your take-away from what i said is "African tribe miracled its way into Sweden" then you are so beyond help idk what to say

>>10488519
As someone that went through an edgy /pol/ phase, books won’t really help.

But I joined the military for a few years, and you actually interact with tons of people from different backgrounds. You smoke and drink with a dude and you realize he’s just a normal dude like the rest of us. I had a friend that saw his first dead body at six, and his brother killed a dude because he had the wrong colors on. He was also 20 times better read than I was, and I’d be the first person he called to play beer pong.

TL;DR just meet more people.

>>10489195
Infants have negative reactions towards adults of a different race.

>>10489196
Blacks are violent and commit a lot of crime. Shouldn't come as a surprise.

>>10489186
>/pol/ is right about a lot.
Yes, I'm sure glad that President Romney's administration put a stop to those FEMA death camps and then went onto finding that secret basement under Comet Pizza, on their way to whistleblowing how abortion clinics sell baby limbs to liberal scientists on the black market for cash.

>>10489182
not the guy you were replying to but I believe in free speech, which is what modern day liberals don't want because it has the potential to be offensive to someone, somewhere. Modern day liberals are authoritarians.

>>10489185
woah nice john oliver(tm) snark totally debunked anon's post. Tell me how is not the logical result of queer theory and anti racism a totaliarian dystopia?

>>10489148
Response differences with age is definitely the first step in an argument for a learned response theory. However, it is important to note that some behaviors actually become more genetically determined with age. One example of such a "behavior" is IQ. Interesting data though.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24799770

>>10489182
>I don't speak rmentally ill
Any paradigm of mental illness that doesn't pathologize belief in intersectional styles of leftism is too flawed to take seriously.
>WHAT exactly do you think I believe?
That it would be desirable for our society to have a highly politicized system of etiquette, and that failure to adhere to it should result in some mob doing whatever is in their power to render me unemployable and unable to participate in social life in general.

>>10489210
>However, it is important to note that some behaviors actually become more genetically determined with age.
That doesn't really make much sense how you word it...

>>10489212
>That it would be desirable for our society to have a highly politicized system of etiquette, and that failure to adhere to it should result in some mob doing whatever is in their power to render me unemployable and unable to participate in social life in general.
Holy fuck, you can't name a real thing that you think I believe that doesn't come off as a cartoonish boogeyman, can you? You can't name a real policy? Attitude towards economics? ANYTHING? Are you under the impression that I believe in anything you just wrote?

>>10489197
all i said was that everyone is the result of thousands and thousands of years of mixing, both culturally and genetically.

this is part of our evolutionary drive, since the more genetic diversity we have, the less likely the same disease or dna disorder will kill us all off.

swedish people may look the same as each other but that doesnt mean shit w/r/t their genetics. genetics isnt based on looks. i said this before but there are tribes in africa that are genetically more distant from one-another than africans are from europeans but you'd say they're the same genetically - thats because looks don't mean anything.

all humans came from some apes in africa intermixing. then those apes moved to the middle east and went to europe and fucked some apes there. some of those apes went back and fucked some apes there. our whole history is apes fucking each other.

you can be racist all you want i don't care. just accept its a cultural attitude, it has nothing to do with science or genes. white and black people were killing each other long before anyone even knew DNA was thing.

>>10489212
>Any paradigm of mental illness that doesn't pathologize belief in intersectional styles of leftism is too flawed to take seriously.
What sort of word vomit is this? Are you actually mentally ill?

>>10489189
>cites the atlantic, ncbi, MIT, and psu
It's worse than I thought lads, this one likely self-flaggletes and may even be a low-level priest. A true believer.

>>10489152
I think that's definitely a viable explanation which deserves its own argumentation. However, if that's the explanation, it still means "racism in dating" is "normal," unless you think people are being forced to see, interact with, and form relationships with people of their own race more than people of other races, against their will.

>>10489210
IQ isn't a behavior, it's a measure of capability. That's like saying reading speed is a behavior.

>>10489225
>ncbi, MIT, and psu are not good sources
Is...is that what you are saying?

>>10489219
You must know nothing about Canadian, German, or UK policy if you think that guy was talking about "cartoonish boogeyman"

>>10489232
I said that his response was a cartoonish boogeyman, which it was.

>>10489222
By your own logic those "distant" genetic tribes in Africa should be driven to interbreed. You're a fucking idiot apparently.

>>10489234
everyone was driven to interbreed...Why do /pol/scientists hate that fact about genes?

>>10489234
>By your own logic those "distant" genetic tribes in Africa should be driven to interbreed

idk what that means or what logic or what "distant" in scare quotes is supposed to mean or why you think i said anyone should do anything suck my ass

>>10489228
Research the cathedral my man, /lit/ is a nrx board

>>10489222
This is a really stupid argument made by someone who doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. The races evolved differently and have evolved different behaviors and traits. This is why Swedes can build functional societies and Africans cannot.

>>10489239
>different "races" have actually evolved differently
You don't understand how macro-evolution of a species works, my friend.

>>10489219
>Holy fuck, you can't name a real thing that you think I believe that doesn't come off as a cartoonish boogeyman, can you? You can't name a real policy?
MY biggest problem with the left is their preference of using soft power in order to to paint themselves as something other than authoritarian while still dominating everyday social interaction. Whatever you personally believe is irrelevant (your type always likes to use the individual as a smokescreen). they're so overwhelming powerful that advocating for anything other than the complete marginalization of the left (both explicit and implicit) is a show of support.
>Attitude towards economics?
I agree more with the political left on economics that the right. It's likely that we have a lot of common ground in this regard.

>>10489224
Psychiatry is primarily a system of control. I believe it's only a worthwhile practiced if it's being used to reduce the influence of the political and social left.

>>10489227
The behavior IQ measures is "doing well on IQ tests". That's why I put it in quotes. You could just as easily say amygdala response metrics aren't a behavior, they're just a capability, but that would be incorrect.
>>10489213
It makes more sense if you read the paper. Think of it like height. When you're young, your height is less predictable from genetic data. They can give an estimate, but you have more input (you can drink a shitload of milk or something) plus there's just more uncertainty involved. As you get older, your height becomes more set in stone, and limited by what you are "genetically" capable of.

>>10489194
>heh checkmate feggit
>really tho
At this point even you can tell you're wrong, you're just trying to deflect with lightheartedness while following it up with generic unspecific cynicism to earn yourself some contrarian coolness points. This is the same squeamishness I pretty much always get from pol, you can see it hiding even in things like the pic in >>10489105. Every race which is socioeconomically above them is part of a conspiracy, while every race they perceive as lesser deserves to be conspired against and systemically oppressed. Anyone better is a cheater, anyone worse is a loser, but they're always the norm. They think they're something more than your typical Ayn-Rand conservative, but they really aren't. It's all the same thing really.

>>10489239
>Swedes can build functional societies
by this point, an islamist takeover of Sweden would represent a massive IMPROVEMENT over its current AIDS tyranny. That's why I could never be completely unsympathetic towards islamists, they understand who (((the enemy))) is and waht means which must be taken to combat it.

>>10489245
>You could just as easily say amygdala response metrics aren't a behavior, they're just a capability, but that would be incorrect.
response =/= behavior either anon, and that goes double for response rates, which are again different from both behavior and response

>>10489224
>accuses the nice politie anon repeatedly of being mentally ill
>constantly vomits out uppercase emphasis.
This is second rate projecting mate, and first rate delusion, neurotic even... What was that you mentioned earlier about being a jew?

>>10489244
>MY biggest problem with the left is their preference of using soft power in order to to paint themselves as something other than authoritarian while still dominating everyday social interaction. Whatever you personally believe is irrelevant (your type always likes to use the individual as a smokescreen). they're so overwhelming powerful that advocating for anything other than the complete marginalization of the left (both explicit and implicit) is a show of support.
Can you name one thing you think I believe, please? Because no, I'm not like any of these buzzwords.

Come on man, Give me a direct example of a policy or position...

>>10489244
>Psychiatry is primarily a system of control. I believe it's only a worthwhile practiced if it's being used to reduce the influence of the political and social left.
Is it even worth it at this point to say that you sound absolutely insane?

>>10489239
> mfw for the vast majority of human history people didnt live in anything even remotely resembling a society

keep drinking that /pol/aid bub im sure you can convince yourself you werent a useful idiot when your ubermensch pals kick a boot up your asshole

>>10489241
You're out of your league here.

>>10489249
Are you implying that arabs view jews as their enemy? Because that's not true, both groups are semites.

>>10488519
It sounds like you need to read literature on why its ok to be white, why its ok to view western civilization as superior, and why it doesn't matter if minorities criticize white values and institutions.

>>10489259
>You're out of your league here.
Sure I am, at least I understand how Evolution works. At least I don't think "races" of humans are like RPG classes.

>>10489239
Race is biological, but in the last instance also spiritual. Race is the willingness to stand up and fight. The last of the hyperborean spirit has vanished from the Swede as well as from most Americans. It is up to us, the true hyperboreans, to bring back the Warrior Spirit to it's full brutal extent, to wipe the filth and the degeneracy from our streets. Death to pigs.

>>10489235
Because that's not a fact about genes.

>>10489260
name me a value that whites own?

>>10489258
There were however tribes of varying size, organization and social complexity, you'll never guess which ones stayed primitive.

>>10489258
Swedes endured harsh winters and had to learn how to survive and store food in extreme climates. Africans could pick food off trees year round. This is why Swedes can plan ahead and work together while Africans can't do much of anything without assistance from, well, people like Swedes.

>>10489251
They actually aren't different. A behavior is a response. You can make distinctions between what causes the behavior/response (internal stimuli, external stimuli), but the two aren't actually different. In fact IQ is MORE similar to response rates than most behaviors; both are to a large extent involuntary, while something like "goes to the beach every day" is more voluntary.

>>10489261
>Thinking macro evolution is a thing
You'll believe anything apparently.

>>10489263
Except it is, not a single completely isolated society has survived. Even Japan, a mostly homogeneous country, is suffering from genetic problems and a drop in birth rates.

Do you need me to explain how genetic diversity works? Or can you just throw me a bone and admit to me that you don't really get this topic?

>>10489253
> Whatever you personally believe is irrelevant (your type always likes to use the individual as a smokescreen). they're so overwhelming powerful that advocating for anything other than the complete marginalization of the left (both explicit and implicit) is a show of support.
Whether you support firing campaigns or no platforming by militant leftists doesn't matter. Anyone who doesn't advocate for the state to stop such actors them is giving them support.
>>10489256
Doesn't really bother me that you fail to understand the nature of that field and its potential.

>>10489265
Individualism

>>10489273
>he doesn't believe in Evolution
wew, lad. Maybe /x/ is more your speed then.

>>10489261
You have shown you don't know much of anything actually.

>>10489226
Yeah, I agree that "racism in dating" is still a result, but it would come from a preference based on exposure and not solely from some innate and natural preference for one's own race (and I don't mean to imply that this is your argument) which to me, even if it is true, seems like an irrelevant and minor detail used to justify hateful ways of thinking

>>10489269
>Africans could pick food off trees year round
this is so self-evidently retarded

>>10489280
>only whites like individualism

>>10489289
It's literally true. That's why Africans can't and don't plan ahead: they never had to.

>>10489278
>Whether you support firing campaigns or no platforming by militant leftists doesn't matter. Anyone who doesn't advocate for the state to stop such actors them is giving them support.
What are you on about? Can you not answer the question?

>>10489274
Based on their population density they could probably use a drop in birth rates. I'm sure your prescription is black dick though.

>>10489291
He's right, individualism is a uniquely white characteristic. It's both our greatest asset and detriment.

>>10489270
>A behavior is a response.
You really, really just don't know what you're talking about. Tell me, how is IQ a response? Do I respond to things by "IQ"ing? IQ is a potential (or a measure of it) that you carry around with you even if you aren't doing anything or responding to anything in any way at all (putting aside breathing etc). Again, it's akin to reading speed. You have your reading speed even while not reading. It's a capability, not a behavior.

look at brown pussy and tell me it doesn't look awful
look at brown eyes and tell me it doesn't look awful
look at brown skin and tell me it doesn't look awful
look at curly hair and tell me it doesn't look awful
look at noses that aren't straight or "pointy" and tell me they don't look awful
look at nonexistent foreheads and tell me they don't look retarded
look at noncaucasian skulls and tell me they don't look awful

Although I must say dark straight dense hair is superior to balding blonde. Contrast is half of it. Nonwhites have no fucking contrast, and ugly shapes.

>>10489295
I'm saying that the question isn't relevant and exists as a diversion because that's all it really is.

>>10489298
>muh density /pol/image macro argument
That doesn't change the problem of genetic defects...

You people just aren't smart. This can become a population crisis in your lifetime.

>>10489278
the state is the single biggest pusher of leftism and leftist ideas, much of sjw theory was actually funded by the military. the whole field of women's studies was practically created from the ground up by the Ford foundation. We gotta smash the big brother system itself and that means media, the military industrial complex, academia and the capitalism, which is manned largely by sick liberal whites. We gotta burn it all down. Helter Skelter, followed by the day of the rope and then, Year Zero.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe10EqpbQZY

>>10489294
>in the middle of a literal fucking desert wasteland
Yo senpai, toss me that papaya

>>10489305

idk i have a southeast asian fetish

>>10488531
>>10488559
Becoming a Christian will not make you less at odds with our times, at best it will make you frustrated in different ways.
If you do decide to go for this route, avoid the Old Testament prophets, they will only make it worse.

>>10489282
It hasn't been demonstrated to occur in the wild the way it was described. By every objective scientific standard it's sheer conjecture. You would have thought by now they would have at least evolved new species of bacteria in a lab setting but even that's been too hard apparently.

>>10489291
It's true though.

>>10489289
Let's go with winter for a thousand, Alex

>>10489306
You said being liberal was bad or tantamount to evil or some aspie shit. I asked you A. Do you know what the word means and B. Do you know what I even believe?

Then you went on some rant about how you need to destroy leftism or some other bizarre shit when I've asked you 4 times now to at least attempt to name a position you think I hold.

>>10489312
I'd get my geography down first if I were you.

>>10489316
> mfw you cant even relate to people anymore so you think saying evolution isn't real would convince anyone

>>10489316
>It hasn't been demonstrated to occur in the wild the way it was described. By every objective scientific standard it's sheer conjecture.
Oh jeez, you are actually retarded...

>>10489309
Megakikes and the Amish have had similar problems and they deal with it through arranged marriages/breeding. Shocking stuff really. Almost like we had archaic social institutions that were designed to deal with this shit and we've tossed them in the gutter in favor of "progress".

>>10489285
The issue is that this will always be the case because nuclear families are typically monoracial, and thus the extended family is typically monoracial (or at least mostly of one race). Basically most of the people you consistently interact with from birth are the same race as you, so, assuming it's purely a learned thing (and I actually don't think it is, but I digress), you would have to break up the traditional family model in order to re-order people's earliest learned behaviors.

This is in part why hardcore leftists like Guattari revile the nuclear family. They see it as a mechanism for perpetuating things like Capitalism and Racism. It's hard to argue that the nuclear family does not perpetuate racial in-group preferences, although I'm less convinced that it perpetuates an economic system.

> swedes had to live hard to survive so that's why theyre superior

> hunter-gatherers literally risk death and starvation to survive. scientists believe language to have developed from these african tribes.

> eskimo societies have changed little even though they live in societies rougher than swedes and need to plan even more to survive.

truly /lit/ cream of the crop

>>10489326
lol the Amish are nearly a dead society, what even is your argument here? It actually works against you.

>>10489326
>Almost like we had archaic social institutions that were designed to deal with this shit
lol and you think they worked?

>>10489324
>>10489321
>Offer no supporting evidence
>Call everyone else a retard
>inb4 articles about bird beak size, moth color changes, and the frequency of the appearance of flowers in Kansas

Fucking painful trying enlighten you poor souls.

>>10489320
>no deserts in Africa
Hmmmmmm...

>>10489334
If you actually need evidence for Evolution and can't even do the most basic or rudimentary research, despite there being a literal century's worth of data out there, honestly makes you look like a pathetic retard.

It's as silly as being a flat earther at this point.

>>10489331
The Amish have a TFR of like 6.5.

>>10489334
> complains about no supporting evidence
> questions scientific consensus

plz continue "trying enlighten"

>>10489340
I'm sure you believe that about vastly inbred, micro-societies that are literally going to be snuffed out within the century.

>>10489331
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2180228/Census-reports-Amish-population-booming-U-S-new-settlement-founded-nearly-month.html

Should probably let them know. The internet allowed the elders to basically set up a breeding program and they've been exploding.

>>10489333
Only for like 6,000 years or so so far.

>>10489344
They are growing exponentially, what are you talking about?

>>10489330
Eskimo's lack creativity obviously

>>10489346
>http://www.dailymail
Into the trash.
>Only for like 6,000 years or so so far.
Anon, human society has been around far longer than that without your Abrahamic bullshit and we got along just fine. It's almost like societal concepts change and adapt over time to suit the needs of changing cultures and attitudes? I'm sorry we can't all live in a stagnant bubble and nothing changes.
>>10489348
No, they aren't.

>>10489341
>scientific consensus
Still haven't brushed up on your moldbug eh

>>10489318
I like to avoid the term liberal on here because it lacks a consistent international meaning, nut I usually take it to mean something like this: political system which prioritizes the freedom and social equality of its citizens while utilize a free market economy with with varying degrees of government interference. I see leftism as a number of political positions that advocate the reduction or complete elimination of social and economic hierarchies. These are both broad groupings of ideologies, so you'll never get a full picture in a single sentence.
Liberals share enough common ground with that left threat they are functional leftists in the current political climate. The views of each individual liberal ( and I use that term in the broadest sense) pretty much work to advance the agenda of the left.

>>10489352
you people want to make it all worse, you want gynocratic POZ totalitarianism

>>10489346
>Only for like 6,000 years or so so far.
>The history of the Amish church began with a schism in Switzerland within a group of Swiss and Alsatian Anabaptists in 1693 led by Jakob Ammann.

zzZ

>>10489352
>No, they aren't
Yes, they are.

>>10489341
>Science is based on consensus
LOL now I know what this place is referring to when you call people pseuds.

>>10489339
They've only confirmed micro-evolution my dude. Also tons of micro-evolution seems to be in response to humans. Almost like some force gave man dominion over all the animals.

>>10489356
wew, lad. This is what ideological brainwashing looks like. Imagine if I said all this goofy shit about conservatives? Settle down...

>>10489304
"Behavior (American English) or behaviour (Commonwealth English) is the range of actions and mannerisms made by individuals, organisms, systems, or artificial entities in conjunction with themselves or their environment, which includes the other systems or organisms around as well as the (inanimate) physical environment. It is the response of the system or organism to various stimuli or inputs, whether internal or external, conscious or subconscious, overt or covert, and voluntary or involuntary"

That's from wikipedia, but the definition itself comes from the following: Elizabeth A. Minton, Lynn R. Khale (2014). Belief Systems, Religion, and Behavioral Economics. New York: Business Expert Press LLC

You'll note that in that final sentence they describe behavior as "the response of the system or organism."

IQ is a metric. The response is what someone does when they take an IQ test. Amygdala response rates are a metric. The response is the actual activity that goes on when you look at whatever picture they show you. Now, Amygdala response rates are more environmentally affected, if that's what you're getting at. They response rate changes more based on what is shown, while IQ tends to remain consistent across various environments, and I agree 100% that's the case. That doesn't change the fact that increasing divergence with age could just as easily be explained with a "genetic-based theory" as with a "environment-based theory."

>>10489329
Well I think we're mostly in agreement here
My one question would be why these slight preferences in race, be them natural or learned, are often used as evidence to justify more blatant and harmful kinds of racism?

>>10489362
A scientific consensus has a different definition than the layman "consensus" buddy.
>They've only confirmed micro-evolution my dude. Also tons of micro-evolution seems to be in response to humans. Almost like some force gave man dominion over all the animals.
Please tell me you aren't actually this retarded? Please...

>>10489359
m8, this is civil white society pls stop being disingenuous. Marriage is older than dear old Jak

>>10489352
It's just a write up of census data. But I'm sure you're too big brained for even that considering you're apparently advocating for returning to pre-civilization standards of social interactions. Very principled.

>>10489359
>The Amish were the first human people to practice arranged marriages
>A statement that was not made
You niggers must be getting tired. You're really dropping off.

>>10489364
My thoughts about most people who call themselves conservatives are pretty similar. We'd probably be in agreement.

>>10489373
Then just directly post the Census data. What are you afraid of?

>>10489313
oh you mean those with lots of Caucasian features making them practically half-white?

>>10489364
At first you were just embarrassing, but the stamina implicated here, the nigger brained lack of self awareness, it's all almost commendable.

>>10489375
If that is how your brain operates, there is probably very little we agree on, we aren't even in the same reality. Do you also think that cultural Marxism is a real thing?

>>10489381
Not him but yes, roughly as real as racism.

Obviously, there are distinct differences between races. It's long been known that genetics between races go far beyond just skin deep. Scientists recognize that different races are more prone to diseases. To think that these differences between races alter the mind isn't absurd at all.

>>10489392
Ah, so you are actually (probably) mentally ill?

>>10489381
>Do you also think that cultural Marxism is a real thing?
No, but I support anti-academic conspiracy theories on principle no matter hos stupid they are.

>>10489376
You lazy niggers are insufferable. The links are in the wiki article. All this because you can't stomach that there's a nice community of devout Christian whites who are getting along just fine without BBC. Sad.

>>10489398
>No, but I support anti-academic conspiracy theories on principle no matter hos stupid they are.
You sound intelligent.

>>10489407
Doesn't bother me. The fetishization of intelligence and intellectualism is something I reject entirely.

>>10489412
>The fetishization of intelligence and intellectualism is something I reject entirely.
I'm sure you honestly believe that (whatever that means) is happening.

>>10489412
>>10489395
Refute this post with out using ad-homs and silly fallacious arguments. Pro-tip: you literally can't.

>>10489396
please stop projecting shlomo, this is an anabaptist minimalist furniture building forum

>>10489368
Going back to the original point I was making, these preferences lead to soft nepotism in two senses. Firstly, people who start businesses often start them with friends and family as investors, and often with friends or friends of friends as partners. This results in most start-up businesses being mostly of one race. Some of those start-up businesses end up becoming massive corporations. Walmart is a classic example of a business that made a family and friends rich, and you'll notice most of those people are white. This is mainly because Walton, the founder, was white, so of course his family (and less obviously his friends) were white.

Just as a counter-example, I recently worked at a private company I won't name here. It was started by an Indian guy, and grew to a mid-sized company. About half the people there were Indian, because the friends and family of the owner are mostly Indian.

So if one race holds the power in a country (in democracies this just means being a majority) then members of that race who hold positions of power will be referring friends and family and friends of friends to each other, and this results in monoracial power structures. It's just kind of the natural result of people preferring there own group.

The second soft nepotism is actually results from dating preferences. The above wouldn't last very long if people just dated randomly. Assuming we're more likely to date in a racial group where we find the average member more attractive, this means that most couples are monoracial. Now, I'm sure you're aware of the somewhat common referral system that happens where your friends girlfriend introduces you to one of her friends. Because core friend groups are mostly of one race, this system results in an extra boost to the likelihood you date within your own race. And because we tend to date within our own race, races continue to exist.

A substantial portion of racial grouping and power structures can be explained by those two mechanisms alone.

>>10488519
Why not just be a non-hateful racist?

>>10489425
Thank you for the genuinely thoughtful responses, refreshing in a thread full of shit flinging

>>10489412
>I like being stupid

The most Amerimutt post possible

>>10488519
The more you read the more conservative you become.

>>10488642
>literally brainwashing yourself into other political beliefs because you want to make fun of /pol/redditors

>>10489579
>The more you read the more conservative you become

Maybe for some, but for others it seems they just become moderates.

>>10488519
Too late, you're going to be a hateful racist forever my guy.

>>10488519
You are weak. What /pol/ would call a soyboy or someone who had rejected the red pill.

I confirm OP is a faggot.

>>10488642
>warped logic
I spent enough time around 'certain people' that they redpilled me.

>>10489704
>nightmare alternate reality
Mate, come to Britain.

>>10488519
Suite Francaise by Irene Nemirovsky

>>10489579
>Not being racist is a "political belief"

>>10489579
>The more you read the more conservative you become.
lol where does this meme come from? Education seems like the antithesis of holding on to conservative beliefs. I've never met a well-read person who stayed conservative, literally never.

>>10490556
Yes, education as in college is the antithesis of holding on to conservative beliefs. That is because 95% of all colleges have an extreme liberal bias.

But, people who read independently generally grow more conservative over time.