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>epic poetry is dea-

>> No.10319990

>>10319985
>not dactylic hexameter

???

>> No.10319996

It's insane to me how much I actually like this poem.

>> No.10320001

>>10319985
I got the eye of the tiger
The champion
The something something somethin
And I am the campion
And youre gonna hear me roaaar

I liked this version more

>> No.10320028

>>10319996
This. After reading it more deliberately and sinister-like I really liked it.

>> No.10320502

>>10320028
I dislike it. It isn't unintelligible enough for me.

>> No.10320517

>read it
>pssh whatever
>age 6
The anon
He destroyed his cage
Yes
YES
The anon is out

>> No.10320524

I don't get poetry at all. Are people pretending when they say they like this?

>> No.10320544

>>10320524
It's okay to be autistic anon.

>> No.10320556
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>>10319985
>reads the first epic poem onc-

>> No.10320566
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>>10319985
>The tiger
>He destroyed his cage
>Yes
>YES
>The Tiger is out

wtf why is this so good, will this kid be the greatest modern poet?

>> No.10320576

>>10320566
It's good because you can feel the emotion behind it, and emotion--sensation--is a huge part of what poetry is all about. One might argue that all non-narrative poems succeed or fail based on the degree to which they successfully capture a feeling. You have to take a state of mind and capture it in stone, so to speak. This is one of the things Wordsworth and Keats were really good it.

>> No.10320580

>>10320566
he already is

>> No.10320582

>>10319985
What is the tiger a metaphor for /lit/?

>> No.10320587

>>10320582
large benis

>> No.10320590

>>10320582
The first time I saw this poem it was posted by a right wing Twitter personality with accelerationist leanings so I took it to be Capital/modernity.

>> No.10320594

>>10320582
What ISN'T the tiger a metaphor for?

>> No.10320598

>>10320566
Imagine being this kid, and having to live up to expectations based on a poem you made when you were 6. Imagine being like 17 and feeling like you peaked at 6 years old.

>> No.10320600

>>10320582
the overman

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10320602

>ywn destroy your cage

why even live?

>> No.10320610

>>10320566
i don't want to think it but it could have been edited with linebreaks or caps but it is really great

>> No.10320614

the best thing about this poem is the fact that it shows pretentious /lit/tards will assign a meaning to anything if it's shitty enough

>> No.10320616

>>10320614
>t. cagelet

>> No.10320618

>>10320614
what did he mean by this???

>> No.10320633

>>10320614
If you can't differentiate between memes and real opinions I don't know how you navigate this site. No one assigns any deep meaning to it, it just arouses a certain feeling very effectively with a tried and true metaphor. Pretty good for a 6 year old.

>> No.10320643

>>10320587
This. It's actually an epos about modern class struggle between emasculated caucasian men and the grotesque insatiable third-wave feminism machine, in which the former succeed in breaking the metaphorical cock-cage of oppression and ultimately reverse the master-slave dialectic of gynocratic neoliberal hellscape we live in.

I'd bet good money Nael's last name is Ulyanov.

>> No.10320651

>>10320614
It is a great poem by every standard though. There's no point in being le dismissive patrishoon if you can't even tell great art when it literally stares you in the face.

>> No.10320683

>>10320614
stick to your antiquated and melodramatic structures, kiddo
the adults are talking

>> No.10320693

>>10320651
this is literally true.

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10321639

>>10319985
>age 6
Heh, step back kid, 7 year old coming through

>> No.10321649

>>10321639
LMAOO

Please post more of those.

>> No.10321691

>>10321649
>7 year old
Move over, big kid incoming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3C-DO9FyEo

>> No.10321700

>>10321691
god damn i hate slam poetry so much
tiger kid is #1

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>>10320614
Sounds like your stuck in the cage.

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10321713

obligatory
1/2

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>>10321713
2/2

>> No.10321784

>>10320576
Al this in such a short and spare poem; not a single letter is wasted or misplaced, and the sheer elemental pull of the poem is undeniable. On top of that you also have the allusion to Blake's Songs of Experience, and after the first line Nael's "Tiger" almost even replicates the fearful symmetry that Blake described, except that the symmetry is not perfect, because the tiger and his unbridled id has been unleashed and nothing perfect can withstand that.

I don't know if Nael thought through all this carefully or if he's just a poet savant, but either way "The Tiger" is one of the better works of poetry we've seen come out of the 21st century.

>> No.10321804

>>10321713
Too bad this gets rid of the contrast between the first and second "yes" because every letter is capitalized.

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>>10320566

>> No.10321890
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>>10319985
How the fuck is this poem so GOOD!?

>> No.10321906

>>10319996
Getting a lovecraftian vibe after reading between the lines.

>> No.10321914
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>>10320566
>>10319985

>> No.10321939

>>10320524
>I don't get poetry at all
You have to realize the point of poetry is to evoke response/emotion.

>Are people pretending when they say they like this?
No.

>> No.10321945

>>10321890
poetry is about conveying emotion and evoking a response simply without the fetters of long prose.

A child has very simple emotions, ones that most people can evoke within themselves.

>> No.10322099

>>10320582
white identity

>> No.10322126

>>10320582
>he thinks the tiger is a metaphor

>> No.10322174

I've written poems that sound nice, but I am interested in meter. I want to try a longer poem and a meter sounds like good structure to try this with, but I don't know which? I might just look at Fitzgerald's Iliad/Odyssey and try to copy whatever that is.

>> No.10322192

>>10320582
Masculinity

>> No.10322207

>>10322174
Iambic pentameter is the easiest meter, and the default for English epics

>> No.10322214

>>10322174
I challenge you (and /lit/) to write a poem in Amphibrachic Dodecametre, where the number of words in each line follows the Fibonacci sequence

>> No.10322223

>>10322214
I thought it was syllabels that counted not words?

>> No.10322225

>>10320600

>> No.10322228

>>10322214
>Amphibrachic Dodecametre
oh my god... I'm a literature major, not a STEM dude! You think I am good at math??

>> No.10322230

>>10322174
Meter is a scholar's way of coping with the lack of natural ear for rhythm.

>> No.10322233

>>10322230
Perhaps, but it is also structure which is in itself an interesting foundation for creativity.

>> No.10322246

>>10321939
>to evoke response/emotion
So if I write the edgiest, most autistic poem to offend the most people I’m a talented poet?
Going to a poetry reading and chanting “nigger nigger nigger nigger...” in front of the audience sounds like a valid artistic endevour now.

>> No.10322259

>>10322246
You don't seem interested in understanding poetry.

>> No.10322339

>>10320582
repressed sexuality

>> No.10322352

>>10320598
When I was like 10 I made a drawing about robots and my father and all his friends seemed to love it. I don't fucking get it, my father isn't the type of guy who lies on this kind of things. My grandpa even put that picture on the book he published

>> No.10322353

>>10322259
You don’t seem interested in experimental deconstructions and subversions of creative forms

>> No.10322399

>>10319985
Perfect preclassical
>>10321914
Perfect modernism

Which literary era did you encapsulate before you started middle school, anon?

>> No.10322547

I mutter this to myself at work.

>> No.10322575

>>10319985
DID NAEL JUST ASSUME THAT TIGER'S GENDER

>> No.10322810

>>10322246
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2zDW9me-IY

>> No.10322823

Clean your cage!

>> No.10322831

>>10320582
the light of god's truth

>> No.10322871

>>10319985
>tiger
>not tigress or tigrXs

1/10, reinforces patriarchy

>> No.10322883

>>10322575
Ah! But that's whete you are wrong, my dear little semen reservoir! That simple "he" gives way to one of the various interpretations of Nael's magnum opus. The sex of the tiger obviously implies that the poem is about the liberation of masculinity from the literal and metaphorical cages of feminized modernity. Thus, Nael uses the majesty of the tiger to express his vision that virility will eventually react against modern emasculation
But Nael's genius doesn't stop there. For the revelation of the tiger's gender may also imply that he is a representation of man's violence against the world, how such masculinity is dangerous amd destructive. Thus, peace amog humanity may only be achieved when all men,like the wild beasts they are, are forever castrated.

>> No.10322900

I don't know if you guys are memeing since I don't usually lurk here but I stumbled here, read the poem and actually "felt" something visceral. Do you fags have any recommendations on poetry I should read about? Possibly continental and particularly italian

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10322933

>>10320582
AI

>> No.10322947

>>10320614
heh, the author is dead, kiddo

>> No.10322963

>>10322353
You don't have any basis for saying this. That post about "does this make me a talented poet" was some philistine shit.

>> No.10322973

I unironically like this.

>> No.10323050

>>10322973
well it's a good poem so why wouldn't you

>> No.10323078

>>10322973
I LITERALLY like this

>> No.10323102

Has based Nael written anything else? I want to see the rest of this prodigy's work.

>> No.10323157

pretty great tbf op

>> No.10323836

>>10319985
epin

>> No.10323839

>>10319985
wow

>> No.10323849

>>10323078
do you like like it?

>> No.10323874

>>10322933
Quick rundown on this guy ? researched Ccru a bit today

>> No.10323883

Yes
YES

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>>10320594

>> No.10324364

>>10320594
a tiger

>> No.10324387

>>10320502
Got to bed Tristan Tzara.

>> No.10324391

>From "They're Singing a Song in Their Rocket"

This kid is the next Pynchon

>> No.10324437

>>10321691
Wow, I don't want to sound like a cynical faggot, but this kid fucking pisses me off. . . one might even say I'm fucking TRIGGERED.

He really is a faggot.

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>>10324321

>> No.10324993

>>10320582
The Id

>> No.10325035

>>10320566
>>10320028
>>10319996
>>10319985
Are you faggots memeing me? Why do you think this conveys such emotion.

>> No.10325195

>>10321639
hey now

>> No.10325438

>>10325035

>yes

>YES

>> No.10325470

>>10323849
Yes
YES

>> No.10325507

The reason that young children can write good poems is because they don't have all the knowledge and presuppositions about what poems are "supposed" to be, so they just write shit and sometimes it sounds nice

>> No.10325587

>>10325438
Yeah but how incredible or novel is thta

>> No.10325595

It's because it's sincere and you know it. You just don't see that in this age with the internet and hyperawareness.

Only children, the mentally ill and the elderly can do it.

>> No.10325599

>>10319985
Jesus Christ I haven't been here in like 6 months why are you fuckers still recycling this shitty meme?

>> No.10325615

>>10320517
underrated

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>> No.10325796

On the outer Barcoo where the churches are few,
And men of religion are scanty,
On a road never cross'd 'cept by folk that are lost,
One Michael Magee had a shanty.


Now this Mike was the dad of a ten-year-old lad,
Plump, healthy, and stoutly conditioned;
He was strong as the best, but poor Mike had no rest
For the youngster had never been christened,


And his wife used to cry, "If the darlin' should die
Saint Peter would not recognise him."
But by luck he survived till a preacher arrived,
Who agreed straightaway to baptise him.


Now the artful young rogue, while they held their collogue,
With his ear to the keyhole was listenin',
And he muttered in fright while his features turned white,
"What the divil and all is this christenin'?"


He was none of your dolts, he had seen them brand colts,
And it seemed to his small understanding,
If the man in the frock made him one of the flock,
It must mean something very like branding.


So away with a rush he set off for the bush,
While the tears in his eyelids they glistened-
"'Tis outrageous," says he, "to brand youngsters like me,
I'll be dashed if I'll stop to be christened!"


Like a young native dog he ran into a log,
And his father with language uncivil,
Never heeding the "praste" cried aloud in his haste,
"Come out and be christened, you divil!"


But he lay there as snug as a bug in a rug,
And his parents in vain might reprove him,
Till his reverence spoke (he was fond of a joke)
"I've a notion," says he, "that'll move him."


"Poke a stick up the log, give the spalpeen a prog;
Poke him aisy-don't hurt him or maim him,
'Tis not long that he'll stand, I've the water at hand,
As he rushes out this end I'll name him.


"Here he comes, and for shame! ye've forgotten the name-
Is it Patsy or Michael or Dinnis?"
Here the youngster ran out, and the priest gave a shout-
"Take your chance, anyhow, wid 'Maginnis'!"


As the howling young cub ran away to the scrub
Where he knew that pursuit would be risky,
The priest, as he fled, flung a flask at his head
That was labelled "Maginnis's Whisky!"


And Maginnis Magee has been made a J.P.,
And the one thing he hates more than sin is
To be asked by the folk who have heard of the joke,
How he came to be christened "Maginnis"!
The Bulletin, 16 December 1893.

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>>10321914
>Yes, but I don't want to.
I wasn't ready for those feels.

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>>10320582
>His ears stick up, signifying a peaked readiness... It's as if he could, at any moment, pounce; he is, after all, a close relative and descendant of the mighty jungle cats of Africa that could leap... after prey. You could see the power drawn into Garfield's hind quarters, powerful haunches indeed.

>> No.10325884

>>10321804
Yes but it makes up for that contrast with the contrast of human/beast.
If you take the human to be the expression of the inner intellectual/spiritual self and the tiger to be the expression of ones instinctual will, you may interpret the drawings as conveying the necessity of intellectual/spiritual freedom for achieving freedom of ones true character.

Frame 1: a beast enclosed
Frame 2: inner awakening
Frame 3: building a footing of logically consistent value judgements
Frame 4: a being once broken and inert experiences perceptual inputs as separate distinct entities existing in its conscious mind
Frame 5: the being now firmly standing within enables pathways hitherto forgotten to be trotted over and finally, with fullness of its mortality, it breathes alive for the first time since its mental infancy

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10325907

>>10325035
You still in the cage faggot

>> No.10325924

>>10325789
>>10325792
truly the greatest poem of the 21st century
the embodiment of satori in anthropologically/mythologically coherent words

>> No.10327045

>>10325438
beautiful

>> No.10327069

>>10319985
desu the second yes makes all the poem
i foresee a bright future for this kiddo

>> No.10327138

>>10319985
Hate this trend of grabbing shit written by children who don't know what they're doing and then pretending it's great art because it vaguely resembles bad modernism

>> No.10327145

>>10319985
This is actually really good.

>> No.10327173

>>10320582
his step dad fucking him in the ass

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>>10325907
>tfw you realise plato's cave is simply an imperfect attempt at explaining Nael's cage

>> No.10328187

>>10319985
A fantastic poem

>> No.10329195

Better than Poopy Kaur, that's for sure.

>> No.10329228

>>10319996
It's a good poem. However, I have a strong feeling that if the same exact poem by a 6 year old girl had been published and was referenced here, it would be heavily disparaged as being the result of SJWism and the collapse of art.

>> No.10329248

>>10329228
How sure are you that Nael is a male name?

>> No.10329257

>>10329248
I think it's probably a male name. But whether Nael is a boy or a girl, my point stands because certainly almost everyone here on /lit/ assumes that Nael is a boy.

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Oh oh... time for /lit/ to start saying how the poem is crap, Nael is being pushed by SJWs, etc.

>> No.10329293

By a 12 years girl

Water falls

Water falls from the bright air
It falls like hair
Falling across a young girl’s shoulders
Water falls
Making pools in the asfalt
Dirty mirrors with clouds and buildings inside
It falls on the roof of my house
Falls on my mother and on my hair
Most people call it rain

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>>10328169

>> No.10329344

>>10322883
Did you just assume Nael's gender?

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10329438

>>10322353
I once worked in an asylum for the mentally ill and deranged. Each one of them is capable of such subversions.

You give yourself far too much credit - far too much. To deconstruct an art form, one must understand it.

The best experimental deconstructionists of poetry are the great poets themselves.

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>>10329438
Good post.

>> No.10329847

>>10324993
yeah...

>>10325507
anyone can forget what a poem oughta be

>> No.10330764

>a swarm of flies as a thousand eyes
>yet i see more of you than they ever could

me 5 seconds ago