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10302927 No.10302927 [Reply] [Original]

>western civilisation finally went up in smoke in the chimneys at Dachau

What did he mean by this?

>> No.10302938

>>10302927
He meant that the Enlightenment, the deepest root of Western civilization, had led us to that global catastrophe and thereby run its full course.

I don't know. Just a guess.

>> No.10302940

He means he worships dead Jews as his god. And not even the right dead Jew.

>> No.10302945
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>>10302938

>mfw McCarthy is accelerating

>> No.10302972

>Westerners genocide an entire continent's population by 90%+ and replace it with Western settlements
>Westerners enslave Africans for generations
>Westerners educate Asians to massacre each other in the tens of millions for Western ideologies
>Westerners stand by and watch as the Armenians are genocided
>Westerners kill about five million Je--

WHOA, WHOA, WHOA! WAIT A MINUTE! HISTORY IS OVER! HISTORY HAS COME TO AN END! THERE CAN BE NO POETRY AFTER THIS! THERE CAN BE NO LIFE! WE ARE IN THE MAUSOLEUM OF THE HUMAN CONDITION NOW! HOW DARE YOU TOUCH A JEW? A SACRED JEW, ONE OF THE CHOSEN RACE, THE GLORIOUS CHOSEN PEOPLE WHOSE FEET YOU WILL BE KISSING FOR ALL TIME ONCE THE MESSIAH COMES? HOW DARE YOU KILL FIVE MILLION JEWS, EACH OF WHICH IS WORTH A BILLION GENTILES, YOU SLAVE-RACE OF NON-CHOSEN CATTLE WHO WILL LICK OUR CIRCUMCISED COCKS IN G-D'S PERFECT WORLD?? HOW DARE YOU THINK HISTORY CAN CONTINUE AFTER THIS TRAVESTY? NOW EXCUSE ME, I HAVE SOME PALESTINIANS TO HOLOCAUST!

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>>10302972

>> No.10302986

>>10302972
kek

>> No.10303018

>>10302972
What blows my mind is that people who think the Holocaust is the worst thing ever or even the transatlantic slave trade or the settlement of the Americas somehow marking white people out as the incarnation of the devil are totally unaware of any of the atrocities carried out in the Islamic slave trade or their conquests (especially their failed invasion of India that killed 200,000 people and not in compatitively luxurious ways like gas chambers or smallpox or starvation) or any of the horrors in Chinese history. Imagine 6,000,000 people being murdered, but by cannibalism. Talk about Eurocentrism!

>> No.10303024

>>10303018
It's almost like they have some kind of ulterior political motive or something.

>> No.10303035

>>10302927
WW1 was really the end of the enlightenment facade.
A few jews dying of typhus in a slave labor camp was just mop up work.

>> No.10303036

>>10303024
Think they wanna breed out whiteness, m8?

>> No.10303037

He meant the following;

Civilisation = Modernity

Modernity = Jewish invention

Therefore, Jews went up in gas at Dachau aka Western (((Civilisation))).

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>>10302972

>> No.10303055

>>10302927
it's were we converted from truth to untruth as the highest value

>> No.10303062

>>10303037
This. To me, McCarthy made this comment to disparage Jews and point out how they're genociding us

>> No.10303068

>>10303018
>Islamic conquests were worse than the genocide of two continents.
Ok, buddy.

>> No.10303069

>>10303036
What an antisemitic thing to say. I'm sure they just want to improve our economy by importing boatloads of unskilled cheap labor from the third world.

>> No.10303072
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10303072

>>10302972
Now this, This is a good post

>> No.10303077
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10303077

>>10302972

>> No.10303078

>>10303069
Maybe if you read Mein Kampf you'll see the true nature of Jews

>>10303068
First of all, the killing of Indians wasn't a genocide. At no point will you find that this was a systematic killing.
Also, the Holocaust? Are you really this naive? The deaths there (no more than around 3000 individuals) were from disease

>> No.10303090

>>10303068
The Americas were depopulation by accidental contagion introduced by people with no concept of germ theory. The Muslims deliberately tortured more people to death.

>> No.10303092
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>>10303078
>Also, the Holocaust? Are you really this naive? The deaths there (no more than around 3000 individuals) were from disease
Did I mention the Holocaust? What are you even saying? If you think only 3000 people died of disease in the Americas (which was usually spread through biological warfare), you're are completely lost. Goodbye.

>> No.10303100

>>10303090
>no concept of germ theory
"The germ theory was proposed by Girolamo Fracastoro in 1546." They were still yet to colonise all the Americas by then, spreading disease well after 1546. Why did they give blankets with smallpox on them?

>> No.10303123

>>10303092
>>10303100
>biological warfare
>smallpox blankets

This happened only once in the centuries during which settlement was taking place, centuries after the big dieoff caused by first contact, during an actual war between the Indians and the settlers. The idea that evil Pilgrims in buckled hats handed innocent Indians in feather headdresses blankets laced with smallpox whereever they went is a lie that only retards repeat.

>> No.10303129

>>10303090
according to bernal diaz, patient zero was a negro slave. kek.

>>10303100
>smallpox blankets
myth
the epidemic started much earlier in the 16th century

>> No.10303132

Threads like these are useful. Keep the redpilled brainlets distracted while the men have real talk.

>> No.10303142

>>10303100
Columbus and his crew never did that. You're historically illiterate. And if you think they had any idea of virgin soil epidemics, you're an idiot. You realize that the Indians introduced diseases to the Old World that killed hundreds of millions, too, right? Should we hold Indians responsible for genocide? No. No one at the time actually understood epidemics. Holding them and their descendants morally culpable for forces beyond their control that they didn't understand is dishonest and stupid.

>> No.10303150

>>10303132
thanks for joining us, genius

>> No.10303165

>>10303100
>1546
In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue.

No concept.

>> No.10303448

>>10302972
Not even a /pol/-tard but I can't argue against this, good post.

>> No.10303457

>>10302927
in what book did he even say this

>> No.10303520

>>10303457
the sunset limited

>> No.10303559
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10303559

>The white race died at Stalingrad

What did he mean by this?

>> No.10304580

>>10302972
You could say that that was the killing of our souls, that not Asian savages or swarthy mongrels, but true European artists, musicians, philosophers and scientists, had bloodied their hands, against others of their kind, not in honorable classical warfare, but pitiless genocide. Well, sure enough, with this festering wound, we were open to all manner of further moral ills, on the basis of that original one, and here we are. A society slowly dying from HIV.

>>10302972
This is pretty accurate.

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10304598

>>10302972
oy vey delet this antisemite kremlin neo-nazi troll

>> No.10305943

>>10303078
>The deaths there (no more than around 3000 individuals) were from disease
people don't actually think like this, right?

>> No.10305956

Its the idea that western thought

>> No.10305976

>>10303142
>Columbus and his crew never did that. You're historically illiterate.

Which is ironic, since libshits always claim to be "better educated."

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>>10302972

When did /lit/ get so woke

>> No.10306358

>>10303123
https://www.nativeweb.org/pages/legal/amherst/lord_jeff.html

>> No.10306776

>>10306358
thanks, anon

>> No.10306814
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10306814

It's me, Jonathan Bowden. I've come back to assassinate the ghost of the Holocaust

>> No.10306832

>>10302927
That committing acts of unspeakable barbarism in the name of civilization is ironic and self-defeating.

People made this assertion much earlier, while analyzing imperialist policy in Africa and Asia. Hell even Pynchon goes into this theme in V.

>> No.10306853

>>10306832
OP might like Octave Mirbeau's Le Jardin des supplice (The Torture Garden).

>> No.10306856

>>10306853
supplices*

merdre

>> No.10306888
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>>10303123
Look at this post above morons.
>>10306776
>>10306358
You realize that you're faggots right? One case of biological warfare and you claim that the whole continent was genocided with small pox and other diseases. You're insufferable cunts. Most of what occurred people wwre unaware of. I'm from northern New England, we have plenty of local stories about injun raids on the settlements around here. Scalping, rape, murder, the killing of innocents. Every group is guilty of these things. Hold each group to the same flame and watch as each group melts. Holy fuck I can't stand people like you.

Pic related faggots.

>> No.10306912

>>10306888
Why do americans think the US is America? Not only were your indigenous tribes genocided, ALL of America's tribes were.

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>>10306888

>> No.10306958

>>10306912
then how do you explain mexicans

>> No.10306997

>>10306958
pure iberian blood, my friend, not a drop of indio

>> No.10307004
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>>10306912
I'm not disputing genocide. I know it occurred. But biological warfare on that scale simply didn't happen. It was two groups of people intermingling, diseases were passed to each other, and they spread like wildfire killing many indigenous people. They posted about the USA so my argument was about the USA. Also, in American English, when referencing outside or with the USA, we make it plural to Americas. My other point was the indigenous people tried to genocide the settlers too. Neither group is innocent, the difference is, the settlers were successful.

>> No.10307017

>>10307004
>My other point was the indigenous people tried to genocide the settlers too
citation needed

>> No.10307046

>>10307017
We have plenty of local history here. Especially during the French and Indian War. My hometown was burned to the ground, it's inhabitants driven off, and those that were captured were scalped if they were men, or taken as wife's (if not forceably raped) if they were women, whilst the children were taken from their parents and raised in the tradition of the tribe, no original language, you erase your heritage.

Here's a few books and the like.
https://www.counter-currents.com/2013/02/a-fate-worse-than-death/
https://books.google.com/books/about/Scalp_Dance.html?id=uADnfqhizbMC&hl=en
https://books.google.com/books/about/Dog_Soldier_Justice.html?id=Xahdfncs8aIC
http://www.unz.org/Pub/AmRenaissance-1998mar-00005

If you're willing to look at the atrocities of whites, you must also look at those of the injuns.

>> No.10307070

>>10303132
I agree.

Only smart redditors like ourselves should have a say

>> No.10307088
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10307088

>>10302972
woke af

>> No.10307094

>>10307046
>attacking a single settlement is genocide
lol

>> No.10307109

>>10307094
>Not looking at sources.

You're a fool.

>> No.10307138

>>10302972
N-nani

>> No.10307249

>>10302927
>>western civilisation finally went up in smoke in the chimneys at Dachau
I guess he hates delousing?

>> No.10307257
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>>10302972
>mentioning the good Messiah in his rant against evil kikes
for what reason.

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>>10303142
>Indians introduced diseases to the Old World that killed hundreds of millions, too, right?
>being this fucking retarded

>> No.10307268
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>anti-semitism isn't a jewish invent-

>> No.10308312

>>10307268
/pol9k/ the philosopher desu

>> No.10308347

God I hate jews so much, and fuck off with your back to /pol/ shit. If you don't get irrationally angry when presented with some kike's face and his constant playing of the victim there's something wrong with you on a fundamental level as a human being.

>> No.10308355

>>10308347
crying kikes are fun though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sok-VlmjG8M

>> No.10308363

Plrase watch this fun video to make sense of this: https://youtu.be/Hhk4N9A0oCA

>> No.10308788

>>10302972

>> No.10308808

>>10307265
Guess how many Old Worlders especially Asians died from the syphilis Columbus' crew brought back from the Caribbean. There are still people dying from it in shitholes in Africa.

>> No.10308836

>>10302927
Civilized men were perfectly fine with mass murder when it was done discretely, indirectly and with some uncivilized nobodies as victims, but then civilized white people did it to civilized Semites, quite effectively too and suddenly everyone was shook in their belief in their own status as a civilized person above mass murder. That is precisely what he means.

>> No.10308845

>>10308836
Civilised white people had already mass-slaughtered other civilised white people in World War 1

>> No.10308886

>>10308845
But you see, that is war and combat, which is entirely different to the civilized man, because the soldier is a class of its own, specifically designed and armed to solve conflicts of interest by going at each other's throat. You will find civilized man also made this very clear when he went to war with Germany for the true and not so true violence committed against the citizens of Belgium. But you make a good point that these Jewish merchants, artists and intellectuals who somehow didn't manage to emigrate in time weigh more than even the most darling little Belgian girl when it comes to the burning of civilization.

>> No.10309299

Sounds like somebody got a case of them Dachau Blues

>> No.10309338

Perhaps the fiction of the holocaust (as well as of those chimneys) marked the end of Western civilization as we all bowed to the collective delusions that have followed the second world war.

>> No.10309478

>>10307046
>first source is a book from a propaganda publisher
kys

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>>10303018
Well, Muslims are p shit at genocide since pajeets still exist. The whole history of India involves genocide anyway.

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>>10302972
>Armenians are genocided
lol

>> No.10309598
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10309598

holocaust exceptionalism is a shitty 20th century meme and literally nobody will know about it except history nerds by the year 2200, just like nobody remembers the "exceptional" dzungar genocide where the chinese killed damn near a million mongols in the 1700s, i.e. almost all of the dzungar people.

once all the jews who got camp'd die off and their family members in high places stop spamming this shit all over western media, nobody will care. especially given the hot new trend of multiculturalism where the "white-passing jew" is old news and their suffering as muh chosen people is taking a back seat to brown folk, who have/had it worse than western jews today

>> No.10309992

>>10309598
have you read The Holocaust Industry?

>>Half-fruitcake, half-mountebank, Wilkomirski, it turns out, spent the entire war in Switzerland. He is not even Jewish. ... Israel Gutman is a director of Yad Vashem and a Holocaust lecturer at Hebrew University. He is also a former inmate of Auschwitz. According to Gutman, "it's not that important" whether Fragments is a fraud. "Wilkomirski has written a story which he has experienced deeply; that's for sure.... He is not a fake. He is someone who lives this story very deeply in his soul. The pain is authentic." So it doesn't matter whether he spent the war in a concentration camp or a Swiss chalet; Wilkomirski is not a fake if his "pain is authentic": thus speaks an Auschwitz survivor turned Holocaust expert. The others deserve contempt; Gutman, just pity.

>> No.10310011

>>10303018
Millions were killed settling the Americas
Trail of tears
Etc

>> No.10310133

>>10302972
Guys, this antisemitism has to stop

>> No.10310178
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10310178

>>10302972

>> No.10310229
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>>10307046
>injun
>happy injun life like my fathers and grandfathers for thousand winters
>white man wash up on shore one day
>white man say he want to live here
>all the buffalo start disappear
>my tribe get the fire rash
>all the children die
>white man bring fire water so we not so angry
>we drink, fall down
>white man come back later, bring thunder sticks
>fall down, no fight him
>children dead, women gone, men dead
>we fight back now
>get slaughtered by white man army with fast llamas and big thunder stick
>army bring fire back to our teepees
>ten thousand buffalos weep
>300 years later white ancestor says "fair fight"

>> No.10310314

>>10302927
>Dachau
Why this particular camp? Just say Auschwitz or something. Or is Auschwitz too obvious?

>> No.10310328

>>10310314
Easier to pronounce.

>> No.10310348

>>10310328
>>10310314
Also, Dachau never used its Gas chambers, and used its ovens sparingly, unlike Auschwitz. I don't know why he uses it, Dachau was relatively minor in comparison to Auschwitz-Treblinka and Buchenwald.

>> No.10310598

>>10310011
Have you ever read any Chinese history at all?

>> No.10310694

>>10310314
It was the first KL that the Nazis opened and a lot of important prisoners were held there that told of their experience after the war, which is why it holds such a firm hold on public imagination.

>> No.10310808

>>10310229
>*unzips scalp*
>*sacrifices your still beating heart to the sun*
Nothing personnel white man

>> No.10310880

>>10310011

Most natives got fucked by diseases, a lot were killed by rival tribes who acquired horses and proceeded to stampede further West, killing off their neighbors, triggering a series of mini ghengis khan events. I'd be astonished if more than 10% of the entire population was actually genocided through direct colonist action. By contrastast the 80 mln Hindus and Buddhists got either handcrafted deaths or committed suicide to not get diviersified in various orifices. Americas stand out because of their hopelessness (isolation, lack of immunity), lopsidedness of the encounter and the range of cultural loss. But the numbers of people destroyed in conscious action seem to be of the "norm" to me.

Literally nobody cares if the man doing the historical slaughter wasn't white. Actually nobody cares at all, now that I think about it. Nobody cares about shit on a visceral level, they just take the perfect vacuum space where care supposed to be, the shape of it and try to cudgel you with it. Or upon a rehearsed mark they pair up and engage that retarded dance. Ritual poses and phrases get exchanged and they disjoint, happy as pigs in shit they got to reaffirm their sensitivity/morality/mindfulness/whatever. If anyone cared the fact that colonialism corresponded with lower global violent death tolls in the long term would give them a pause and rethink the kind of reality people lived back then. It never does.

>> No.10310930

>>10302927
When and where did he actually say this?

>> No.10311155

>>10302972
>>Westerners educate Asians to massacre each other in the tens of millions for Western ideologies
they were doing that long before westerners got there, honestly

>> No.10311165

>>10306888
>I'm allowed to be as shitty as I want because someone else out there is also shitty
Truly a stunning example of humanity we have here

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>>10302972
WOKE POST
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>> No.10311169

>>10304580
>Jews
>Of European kind
Nice try

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>>10302972
Quality post

>> No.10311418

White (prof in the Sunset Limited) is an edgelord Cioran-tier pessimist. HARDLY a mouthpiece for McCarthy

>> No.10311629

Dachau wasn't even a death camp or specifically for Jews, it was a camp for criminals and people deemed enemies of the state. The idea of those kind of people being put into camps and then dying there is hardly groundbreaking when looking at history. Maybe Auschwitz was too mainstream.

>> No.10311655

>>10302972
they handed over their fellows, many of whom were fully integrated and highly educated

>> No.10311657

>>10304580
Jesus Christ calm down with the fucking commas. Also
>Jews
>true European anything
Don't make me laugh

>> No.10311692

>>10308886
Ok, you've given me an excellent description of what happened. But irrespective of everyone else, how do you really feel about it?

I can't tell if you're being dryly ironic, cold, or just impartial, and I'd like to know, because you've shown you already have interesting and meaningful things to say (even if I don't necessarily agree with them).

>> No.10312221

>>10311692
I feel that the horrors of the Holocaust are perpetually exaggerated and appropriated for political reasons and financial gain and that the whole idea that this is a groundbreaking new, different, worse than ever thing is based on the following:
The victims were Jews who were and are very prominently active in the universities and medias.
Hitler and Co used pre-Modern tactics of warfare and expansion politics (Drang nach Osten) which the Western liberal nations had already replaced with economic warfare and acting in secrecy thereby giving a bad image to the whole show in the eyes of common people.
No one likes to see harm done to helpless civilians, it's like kicking puppies.
The industrial nature of things. Simply that it was well planned and organized rather than a horde of Slavs stuffing their dicks and bayonets into some girls in the heat of the moment.

I hope that summed up my genuine opinion.

Regarding the difference to the Great War I do think that war between soldiers is and should be regarded differently than slaughter of civilians and also the Great War and its outcome, the revolutions and Versailles did leave a serious, deep mark on Western culture, shacking the believe in industrialism, modernity and everything really to the core, much like McCarthy said there, Western civilization was finally blown to bits in the trenches of the Somme. That fact has just been forgotten, erased and replaced with that second war.

>> No.10312228

>>10311172
That gif is terrifying.

>> No.10312267

>>10312228
It's ok, nukes gonna start flying soon enough. I predict a massive Muslim vs Chink war in the next 15-20 years in South East Asia and massive consequences to Africa, screencap this.

>> No.10312299

>>10311172
>trends will continue for decades unchanged

>>10312267
Confirmed to have never step foot in SEA.

>> No.10312591

>>10311418
Good post. For some reason people do like to ascrbibe the views of a character to the author of the book.

>> No.10312619

>>10302927
propriety and nobility towards one fellow man as an ideal vs the mechanized grinding of human beings.

I think a waltz back to the 30 year war would benefit him tho

>> No.10312635

Western thought ended in the holocaust happening so there must be something that went wrong.

Its basically the same as the Adorno quote.
"There can be no poetry after Auschwitz."

>> No.10312640

>>10302940
pretty spot on. the holocaust worship is a sick thing - center-pillar of a very sick culture

>> No.10312648

>>10311155
yeah they had deathtolls that would hardly be reached by World Wars hundreds and thousands years ago (they had a play-on-repeat-loop to commit some apocalyptic slaughters in every X century or something in China)

>> No.10312654

>>10312640
right, nazis are sick fucks

>> No.10312664

>>10303018
tldr european islamic this-that.
Different groups of people all around the world have pretty much all played the same game of wars and conquest and slavery. Europeans being no exception. They just happened to be hugely successful in it starting in the modern times.
For some reason only they are vilified and lambasted. The picture painted looks like all the peoples around the world just had a merry sing and dance along the meadows until the ebil white man came.

>> No.10312671

>>10312664
>Different groups of people all around the world have pretty much all played the same game of wars and conquest and slavery
Some of them, not all of them. Don't justify one atrocity by another.

>> No.10312682

>>10312664
>For some reason only they are vilified and lambasted
not true

>> No.10313238

>>10311165
That's what you derived from that? The intent was to show that NEEITHER group is innocent, and the blaming solely of the settlers is lending yoiurself an unwarranted sense of moral superiority which is ironically shown in your post. Now let me be clear, when I say, moral superiority, it is in reference to your own sense nd not that of the genocide discussion.

>> No.10313248

>>10309478
>Stories that don't meet my narritive are propaganda.

>> No.10313272

>>10310229
Wasn't a "fair fight" though. Injuns fought each other as much if not more than the settlers. That coupled with newly introduced diseases (regardless if they were intentional or not) and technological differences made clear who was to win, and history shows who did.

>> No.10314302

>>10307268
You don't understand Weininger.

>> No.10314321

>>10302972
w o k e

>> No.10314501

>>10302972
Damn, you really made me think

>> No.10314535
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>>10306358
>mfw went to school in Amherst, MA and there are a lot of locations, including DFW's alma mater, named after this guy in one of the most painfully liberal towns in Massachusetts

>> No.10315983

>>10312299
These are predictions, lad. Do you have any idea what you're talking about?

>> No.10316002

>>10310011
>muh trail of tears :'(

>> No.10316003

>>10302972
>implying any Jews died, ever
Jews are vampires and the Holocaust never happened, Jews are immune to gas and all other forms of execution. The only way to kill a vampire is to perform a very specific Christian ritual which Hitler could not perform due to too much pagan spirits flying around at the time.

>> No.10316019 [DELETED] 

>>10311655
>Jews
>fellows
>fully integrated
Not a chance, Goldberg

>> No.10316144

>>10303018
The lack of material in the American education system on Islamic predation in the Mediterranean was originally Anglocentrism, I think. (Viking raids in the northern Atlantic rather than Saracen raids in the north Mediterranean.) But at some point the rationale shifted to political correcctness.

>> No.10316151

>>10310598
Of course he hasn't. As >>10316144 implied Anglophone historical education has transitioned seamlessly from the history of the English and their settlement of North America to Fuck White People. China is irrelevant to either of those things.

>> No.10316166

>>10315983
Do you? I am not the one making ludicrous predictions about a nuclear war in a region that has no nuclear weapons

>> No.10316255

>>10316151
Always have to find some way to turn it around on whitey, even when the Jews corrupt the education system to make little white kids hate themselves that's whitey's fault for having a curriculum structured around, you know, his own history. Lel you people are so silly.

>> No.10316262

>>10302927
WW2 was the genesis of the post modern

>> No.10316274

>>10303024
Almost like (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((they)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) do, huh?

>> No.10316284

>>10302972
>Westerners genocide an entire continent's population by 90%+ and replace it with Western settlements
False, most Native Americans died from Smallpox. Germ theory didn't even exist yet, suggesting this was intentional is an outright lie. Totally not comparable to the Holocaust.

>>10302972
>Westerners enslave Africans for generations
But it was a purpose, there was a reason for it, not arbitrary cruelty, not evil. Totally not comparable to the Holocaust.

>>10302972
>Westerners educate Asians to massacre each other in the tens of millions for Western ideologies
What are you even talking about, people have free will, the fact that Asians killed one another by the millions can't be laid at the feet of the Europeans who indirectly instigated it. Totally not comparable to the Holocaust.


>>10302972
>Westerners stand by and watch as the Armenians are genocided
Yeah, by who though? Barbarians. The point was the west embodied progress and humanity, and THEY perpetrated this unspeakable act against humanity. The Armenian Genocide is fundamentally not comparable to the Holocaust.

>> No.10316304

>>10316284
>Holocaust
You keep saying that like it actually happened. You know what I think really broke the Western man? The fact that a generation of young patriots were manipulated by their government into fighting a war for Communist Jews who viewed them as animals. Imagine what that must have been like, to be used as cannon fodder in a war you weren't even sure was just and then to come home and realize those men who told you you were defending your country were liars. Jews overestimate their relevancy to humanity, no one from that generation cares about the holohoax, they cared about being forced into a brother war.

>> No.10316384

Do history textbooks in American high schools still give a run-down of English history and the link between English trends and achievements like the Magna Carta and the common law system, and the continuation of these developments by the process of the American revolution?

How I imagine most US textbooks to open up nowadays is to have a still from the whipping scene in django unchained, and beneath it an explanation of how the US was built by the white man's whip hand, and how there was not even any recognition by the founders of LGBT issues.

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>>10302972
/leftylit/ are on suicide watch right now, not even their subbreddits can summon a response.

>> No.10316418

>>10316284

Last I heard historians had reached 6.7 million and change fatalities in the middle passage alone, never mind death a on a plantations or lynching. Sales records from slave traders.

>> No.10316531

>>10316284
>But it was a purpose,
'muh economy' isn't a purpose

>> No.10316540

>>10316384
>the link between English trends and achievements like the Magna Carta and the common law system
American historiography no longer acknowledges the Magna Carta as having special historical significance.
I imagine most English history textbooks begin with Henry VIII executing the Pope while choirs of Protestant angels sing his praises.

>> No.10316579

>>10302927
What he ment was simple.
Let me give another example.
At one time Chivalry existed. Where only royal people chose who fought against each other.
Chivalry ended when kings started using poor people for war.
The same for white europeans exists in the present. The wealthy elite, no longer contain any truly pure white men. This includes the british royal family of today. They intermarried with jews.
Poor white men no longer had chivalry for each other.
In the past. It was white europe vs anything that wasn't white.
Times changed. War stayed the same

>> No.10316605

>>10316579
Do you have a mental impairment? The baseness of your opinions is mirrored in you diction

>> No.10316612

>>10316605
Go easy on him, he thinks Fallout is real. There's no hope for Bethesda fanboys.

>> No.10316657

>>10316166
>No nuclear weapons

>> No.10316680

How many people have western agricultural inventions saved from starvation? How many non-Westerners has penicillin saved? How many times have non-Westerners committed genocide?

>> No.10316745

>>10302927
He means that he's a good goy.

>> No.10316790

>>10316284
Jews are barbarians to Westerners. Only reason the 'Caust is made to be such a significant event is because of the Jewish ascendancy to political and cultural prominence after 1933 with FDR's administration. There's no proof of a mass extermination program anyway. "Evil" is only a thing if you believe in religion, which most cosmopolitan Westerners do not.

>> No.10317041

>>10313248
This publisher is sub-par, it's obvious when you do research.

>> No.10317050

Westerners believing that Western civilization is uniquely evil is as narcissistic as believing that Western culture is the only valid culture and should be universalized. You guys aren't special.

>> No.10317292

>>10306358
This is the only piece of evidence used to corroborate the small pox blanket story. There is no hard evidence small pox blankets were ever actually used. It is much more plausible NAs got small pox just by interacting with settlers (i.e., trading with them and raiding their settlements).

>> No.10317296

>>10306358
good link, thanks

>> No.10317342

>>10317292
>much more plausible
if you're dumb as a rock

>> No.10317356

>>10317292
>There is no hard evidence small pox blankets were ever actually used
>he didn't read the text

>> No.10317369

>>10316418
>>10316531
What's your point? How is that in response to the post you quoted? People enslave others for a reason, to produce something. If you could enslave people without harming them that would obviously be preferable. The reason for the Holocaust was pure malice. That's what makes it evil.

>> No.10317383

>>10317369
>People enslave others for a reason, to produce something.
>'muh economy'

>> No.10317398

>>10317383
Fundamentally every exchange harms someone, it's important to distinguish between acts of evil and means to an end.

>> No.10317410

>>10317398
I don't understand
Pretend that I'm retarded and explain why your beliefs are coherent

>> No.10317420

>>10317410
What don't you understand?

>> No.10317426

>>10317420
What you think you're arguing

>> No.10317436

People enslave others to produce the State. Consumer culture is the cornerstone of the new slave trade.

>> No.10317443

People enslave others to produce commodities. Private property is the cornerstone of the new slave trade.

>> No.10317459

People enslave others to produce commodities out of them. Private property is the cornerstone of the new slave trade because I can own people as consumers.

>> No.10317460

>>10302927
The 3rd Reich is fascinating, much like an alien civilisation that existed on earth for 12 years before imploding. The events of WWII are so dramatic and removed from our everyday experience our culture has been mostly incapable of assimilating them, except through kitsch. That's what Pynchon attempted in GR, to portray the deranged SF quality of it all. look into the origins of the internet, or all our postwar reality for that matter, and you will stumble upon again and again with the same WWII era think tanks. cybernetics, networks, LSD, applied mathematics, all originated with the war effort in some way or another. 'Western Culture' is but a distant, unreachable dream, as alien to us postmoderns as the classical world was to the moderns.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xoM6-1SWl4

>> No.10317489

>>10317459
People enslave others to consume them. Human flesh is the cornerstone of the new cannibal industry because once your customers run out of money you can eat them.

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>>10317489
>your customers

>> No.10317682

>>10316540
>I imagine most English history textbooks begin with Henry VIII executing the Pope while choirs of Protestant angels sing his praises.
No it starts off with how we need to deal with the Irish problem.

>> No.10317703

>>10302927
Close, it died when the smoke stopped.

>> No.10317957

Why do Americans love Jews so much?

>> No.10318138

>>10317957
Why are Europeans so inhumane toward Jews?

>> No.10318146

>>10316019
>hurr I maed epic meme that means I redpill

kys

>> No.10318152

>>10302972

>> No.10318257

>>10318138
Every country that ever had Jews has tried to expel them except the US.

>> No.10318262

>>10318257
>>10318138

>> No.10318272

>>10318262
Not just Europeans, everyone.

>> No.10318276

>>10317957
>>10318138
America has no Volk, they are all outcasts, perfect habitat for Jews.

>> No.10318286

>>10318272
I'm asking you about Europeans

>> No.10318313

>>10302938
nah, the enlightenment never hit Germany or much of continental yurope

>> No.10318318

>>10318286
Jews cause the same problems everywhere, there is nothing unique about the European reaction to them. Antisemitism is universal, except for the US and Israel.

>> No.10318360

>>10318318
OK but I'm asking you about Europe not about 'uniqueness'

>> No.10318381

>>10318360
Because Europe, like everyone else, was tired of the Jewish minority acting against the interest of the native majority, of course.

>> No.10318399

>>10318381
that sounds kind of simplistic. are you sure you have a brain?

>> No.10318407

>>10318399
>act like cunts
>people fuck you up

sometimes life is simple anone

>> No.10318415

>>10318407
are you sure you have a brain?

>> No.10318418

>>10318415
yeh

>> No.10318442

>>10310011
Do you know what the hardest thing about the Trail of Tears was?

my dick

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retards

>> No.10319646

>>10315983
I was referring to the gif I posted, not the other thing.

>> No.10319652

>>10319480
True, but laying it out explicitly like that is hurtful.

>> No.10319914

>>10310229
how can ten thousand buffalo weep after they're all dead lmao