/lit/ - Literature

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Wordsworth and Shelley are far above Keats

>>10249968
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>>10249968
I find Shelley incredibly overrated.

>>10249968
hey fuck you pal

>>10249968
>Wordsworth and Shelley combined even beginning to approach the zenith that is Keats
Fuckin' kek

>>10249979
>>10250325
Ozymandias vs. “Bright star, would I were stedfast as thou art”

Shelley wins, even against Keats

>>10250334
Ozymandias is good for Shelley, but "Bright star..." isn't even Keats' best poem.

>>10250351
Hyperion is unfinished, Grecian Urn is barely passable for good or cannon

>>10249968
Shelley a shit, Wordsworth is goldy though

>>10249902
William Blake is better imo, but I get why you'd prefer Keats.

>>10249902
>tfw when no Byron
Byron clearly lacks the education, but does have moments that are sublime

“There is a pleasure in the pathless woods,
There is a rapture on the lonely shore,
There is society, where none intrudes,
By the deep Sea, and music in its roar:
I love not Man the less, but Nature more,
From these our interviews, in which I steal
From all I may be, or have been before,
To mingle with the Universe, and feel
What I can ne’er express, yet cannot all conceal.”

>>10250367
>cannon

>>10250367
>Grecian Urn is barely passable for good or cannon

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>>10250381
Solecisms are the final arguments of plebs?

>>10250369
at least this is a respectable opinion.
shelley and wordsworth baka

>>10249902
It's Coleridge or Byron.

>this thread
FURTHER PROOF

>>10250451
but he was such a cuck

>>10250451
Coleridge ultimately lacked self-esteem, that was his main problem. Well that and being an opium addict.

>>10249902
I wish Ode to a Nightingale didn't have that flower stanza. Would be a perfect poem if that was replaced.

>>10250377
byron is a poet for low class people

>>10250377
Byron is incredibly enjoyable but he's not primarily a poet in the sense of Keats, in the sense of short romantic poems on an idea or experience. He's a narrative poet, basically, and his narratives are very good. He's disliked by people today who need someone to bash in order to feel patrish and choose him instead of Wordsworth.

I trust Goethe on this:

Lord Byron is to be regarded as a man, an Englishman, and as a great genius. His good qualities belong chiefly to the man, his bad to the Englishman and the peer, his talent is incommeasurable.
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His high rank as an English peer was very injurious to Byron; for every talent is oppressed by the outer world, – how much more, then, when there is such high birth and so great a fortune. A certain middle rank is much more favorable to talent, on which account we find all great artists and poets in the middle classes. Byron’s predilection for the unbounded could not have been nearly so dangerous with more humble birth and smaller means. But as it was, he was able to put every fancy into practice, and this involved him in innumerable scrapes. Besides, how could one of such high rank be inspired with awe and respect by any rank whatsoever? He expressed whatever he felt, and this brought him into ceaseless conflict with the world.
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I could not make any use of any man as the representative of the modern poetical era except him, who undoubtedly is to be regarded as the greatest genius of our century. Byron is neither antique nor romantic, but like the present day itself. This was the sort of man I required. Then he suited me on account of his unsatisfied nature and his warlike tendency, which led to his death at Missolonghi.

Lord Byron is only great as a poet; as soon as he reflects, he is a child.