/lit/ - Literature

First for OP is a fag.

>>10212601
>Do you even read sff novels?
no

re:Malzan.

I really, really liked the first book. It was interesting, very creative, with fun camaraderie between the characters who are these hard-bitten veteran soldiers, fighting men and women, no use for officers. But now, it's all just getting to be too much. If I had to put my finger on why the story is losing my interest, I'd have to say "too much magic."
The whole thing with the warrens, the gods, the Tlann Imass with their immortality sundering ritual, the ghost dogs, the Azath houses, the Deck of Dragons, the gods mingling in mortal affairs, etc. etc. it's all just too much. This is a world where anything can happen, and consequently nothing that happens really has much weight. There are no meaningful consequences to anything. You know if a character dies or gets horribly injured, they can easily be fixed if the right person snaps their fingers and makes it so. And if the right person refuses to snap their fingers, there isn't likely to be a good reason.

>>10212601
>no ghostly Wolfe head hidden in the BG
It's like you didn't even try OP

>>10212650
If I had to rez every patsy that croaked on my watch I'd have no time for real wizard work.

I finally read The Book of the New Sun. Overall, its was... neat, I guess. Not sure what all the hype was about, though. It looks like it was mind blowing when it came out, but it didn't have any impact on me. Some parts were really fun and/or interesting, and the story is way better on a second read-through. Tbh I don't know wtf happened at the end of Shadow of the Torturer.

>>10212601
>implying anyone on this board reads at all.

Where is the guy who's obsessed with catgirls?

>>10212650
I think everyone who dies in Malazan stays dead outside people serving Hood. People might disappear, fake their deaths, or indeed recover from bullshit injuries, but actually dying is pretty formal. As for no weight, lots of fan favorites kick the dust and have no hope of truly returning to life, including many figures who 'snap the fingers'. I wouldn't rate lack of consequences as one of the problems with the Malazan universe.

Can someone give me some ideas to my short story I'm going to write? I need a character, and story

>>10212764
that's incredibly vague.

>>10212762
Yeah you know I just really struggled it was so long and boring and there was all this stuff that wasn't really explained and it just seemd like the author was trying to make it hard to read. Also I don't really care about the chain of dogs at all so its kinda boring.

>>10212764
the character is a medieval or renaissance era money-changer, gender is up to you.
the story is about finding the [insert local ruler's title here] stolen gold, which has been pilfered due to a misunderstanding of the exchange rate between two kinds of coinage. your character handled the transaction and is assumed to be at fault for this. they have three days to accomplish their task or be hanged.
hard mode: your character is the thief and needs to keep the money for reasons.

>>10212764
A young monk experiencing a demonic outbreak.

He dies at the end

>>10212748
>Where is the guy who's obsessed with catgirls?
>imblying
I'm trying to spend less time here.

>>10212774
>>10212817
>>10212823
THanks

>>10212826
I need your expert opinion on Hestia

>>10212764
Young black-furred felinoid servitor rebuffs the advances of a lecherous prince and is exiled. She decides to become a witch for revenge but is very bad at it. Falls in love with a rival prince who isn't interested but thinks she can work witchery on the other prince. They utterly fail at their plans and in the process she endears herself to him. Happy ending, etc.

>>10212850
What sort of opinion? It's pretty short and has a nice cover.
Spoilers:
Tragic feral kitty waifu gets domesticated (or does she) and tries to assist offworld engineer in saving the ungrateful rednecks colonists from her tribe.

>>10212826
how do you feel about this kat?

>>10212877
Isn't that the plot to Avatar?

Anybody in here read Octavia Butler's "Bloodchild"? One of the best SFF short fiction pieces I've ever read, hands down.

>>10212658
The Wolves are enough.

>>10212658
Here you go cunt.

>>10212601
Any other Donaldson fans here?

>>10212909
Her ears just aren't fuzzy enough to do it for me. Also /co/ is a horrible place.
>>10212912
As much as Avatar's is the plot to Pocahontas, sure.

>>10213006
Appreciate it

>>10211783
>Too Like the Memes
>great phil interludes
>great worldbuilding
>great plot, as opposed to the majority of hard sf, great prose, GOAT characterisation, all the characters have dubious motivations - two books in and you still aren't sure who you should put stock in, great conspiracies
>Mycroft descended from the GOAT almighty /lit/ combo of Gulliver Foyle and Jacques
>Palmer is a Wolfefag and Gundamfag
Books of the era. I can't wait to borrow/torrent The WIll to Battle.

>>10213048
Here. We're not well liked on sffg though.

>>10211972
So like real life? Where nothing we do matters in the end because we will all die?

>>10213252
Is just that one autist mang.

>>10212774
>Yeah you know I just really struggled it was so long and boring and there was all this stuff that wasn't really explained and it just seemd like the author was trying to make it hard to read. Also I don't really care about the chain of dogs at all so its kinda boring.
Brainlet struggled with a book, and because he doesn't have the iq to decipher the novels he calls it trash with no consequences.
Typical.

>>10212668
>brainlets trying to read BotNS
You guys shouldn't have shilled it so much.

>>10213268
>one autist

>>10213259
>implying God isn't real

>>10213284
Herro senpai

>>10213048
Depressing as fuck but pretty good. I never finished the third trilogy

>>10212601
Why is isekai the future of fantasy?

>www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/the-prince-of-dragons-christopher-paolini-and-the-rise-of-inheritance-20120308

Posting the article for that dragon anon from the last thread.

what book should I read

>>10213475
The Bible

>>10213465
I had found it in the meantime, but thanks anyway.

The paolinis sound like insufferable bobo hipstery faggots tho.

>>10213480
what version

Which of these should I read next?

>>10213465
>tfw we only get crappy isekai without goblin harems and experience points

>>10213523

>>10213523
1

>>10213523
2

>>10213523
3

>>10213523
>>10213530
I like this cover best.

>>10213048
First trilogy was good, second was mediocre, Final Chronicles was so universally panned I never bothered reading it.

>>10212620
>op called me out on my shitposting
>he knows I don't actually read
>let me call him a faggot

>>10213530
This one solely for the cover

>>10213465
Isekai, and LitRPG, needs to be loaded onto a rocket and fired into the sun.

>>10213734
This

What font and size do you guys write in?

I've been using Times New Roman in size 10. Is that boring? I want it to be comfy to read and not pretentious looking or retarded.

>mfw Shallan finds a writhing inhuman abomination in Urithiru's basement

That was unexpected.

>>10213048
I'm looking forward to giving Seventh Decimate a try in November. Hopefully he can redeem himself with this new trilogy.

>>10213530
This one. It was a real pleasant surprise when I read it, much better than I was expecting. I'm actually looking forward to the sequel.

>>10213525
>tfw narnia would have been ten times as good with an incest harem

>>10213734
Ur a shit.

>>10213234
Are you the mecha-cunt who posted that chapter from Seven Surrenders fucking months ago?
If you're one and the same, thanks for finally getting me to read Palmer's wild ride, such a good recc.

>>10214184
>The Will to Shill

Only a one month now lads

>>10214184
Yes.
>>10214193
This can't come out soon enough.

>>10213760
I write in Courier New size 12. That's apparently what those short story mags want as the standard. Not that I'll get accepted anyway.

Why does it now feel like most posters on most boards even here in this general, are underage?

>>10212650
I liked the first book more than the rest too. Author kept on adding more stuff to build a deep world/plot/magic instead we got a shallow mess. Almost all the best bits were the parts were with the army which you see less and less of in later books.

Reading through Titus Groan of Gormenghast right now. Is the author going for Tolkien style writing? I'm on the third chapter and we haven't reached a plot point besides a new heir to Gormenghast has been born. It just feels incredibly slow.

>>10212601
>Do you even read sff novels?
Actually, I do.
>What sff books you enjoyed reading this year?
BotNS, Dying Earth, Jonathan Strange, Fifth Head of Cerberus, The Three-Body Problem (series), Hard to be a God and Left Hand of Darkness, to name the best ones.
>How many sff Books did you read this year?
About 20-25.
>Recommend a book from the ones you read this year.
>answering anything not BotNS on a recommendation

>>10212764
>hey, /lit/, I want to write
>I have no imagination though

Which one of these was the best fantasy book published in 2017, /sffg/? Do you think any of them is worth a Hugo Award?

I recently picked up Beggars in Spain by Nancy Kress, now going on chapter 5. The concept and the ideas are really interesting, but I'm finding all the teenage drama bits to be so off-putting and frankly bland that I'm considering dropping the book. Does it get better? Should I stick with it? I'm finding it very underwhelming for a Hugo and Nebulla winner

>>10214414
Tad Williams. N. K. Jemisin and Gaiman were decent. Haven't read the rest.

>>10213930
>>10213670
>>10213539
>>10213530
>people telling the guy to read this book when all they did was look at the cover art

>>10214414
I have only read Gaiman. It's basically a retelling of stories I already knew, while it's well written I would not say that it deserve any award.

>>10214206
Because it's Halloween /turkey time. Kids are out of school.

>>10214280
It's dinosaur fuel for a reason.

>>10214481
>kids out of school for Halloween

>>10214414
Not Anne Bishop's new series. I dropped it a few years ago. Can't say for the rest. I read sins of empire, Norse mythology and red sister. From those 3 I would give Gaiman the award for making norse accessible to younger persons in understandable prose. Rick Riordan has gone full fanservice PC, and that first Norse series I read from him was complete shit. Haven't read stone sky yet.

>>10214516
>From those 3 I would give Gaiman the award for making norse accessible to younger persons in understandable prose.
There's absolutely no shortage of dumbed down norse mythology since burgers are absolutely obsessed with turning it into games, comics and movies or whatever. So it has far less value than you give it credit for.

>>10214564
Not that anon but the Gaiman's retellings are quite true to the originals, unlike most games and movies that bastardize the myths.

>>10214564
Does this look like /v/ /co/ otr /tv/ to you?

Is shadow and claw any good?

>>10214592
>>10214593
Sorry for not explicitly stating that writers of books have cribbed from norse mythology for a long time as well. I figured that went without saying but I guess it didn't. I'm not saying that you have to read the fucking Icelandic manuscript to the Poetic Edda but come on son.

>>10212650
This is what is turning me off from starting this series. There being so much shit going on and no tension. Gods and magical creatures and wizards and evrything and more. It feels like a highschool goth kid got together with a heavy metal kid and an english nerd and wrote it.

>>10214601
Yes. You should get Sword and Citadel as well, it's the second part of the series.

Don't listen to what people say of how complex the series is or how Severian is such an unreliable narrator. Don't even read it as a sci-fi story.

Read it as a book that leaves many things unanswered, as a book that is read like being in a dream.

So I've finished reading Jordan's part of WoT and so far I've really liked it despite its flaws.

If you're looking for a comfy read, something that you can enjoy in your armchair by a fire in a winter night, this is not the series for you. WoT is something you read when you crave fast-paced action, with minimal, to-the-point plot and brutal war scenes that will make your heart rate go through the roof. Don't read this in the evening unless you don't plan on sleeping.

Jordan imposes a relentless pace on the story. Here you will find no overly descriptive paragraphs, no tax-system, no irrelevant character, no five-parties political intrigues to determine who will attend the ball. The vivid action takes you from place to place, barely letting you catch your breath before taking it away again. There is a plot twist or a battle scene in nearly every chapter.

The characters are few and easy to follow up on. Although it could be argued that they feel hollow, that they lack background, they serve their purpose. Where Jordan shines is in the interactions between the characters, which all feel natural and flow smoothly. The harmony between the characters is heartwarming, and most of the women will make you feel serene just by their peaceful and dignified presence - the perfect counterpoise to the never-ending action. Compared to them, the men feel a little off.

All in all, WoT is a great read for brainlets who don't feel like remembering names from 7 books ago, or people who just want a wild ride.

What is the mahou shoujo madoka magika of /sffg/?
By mahou shoujo madoka magika i mean a book with a plot twist which brings sorrow and despair.

Read Do android dream of electric sheep. Bretty Good. Some shit didn't make sense though, like how dumb some of the androids act. Aren't they supposed to be super intelligent? Pretty fucked how Gordon cheated on his wife and it's never really brought up though. Overall good book.

Thinking of reading Alas, Babylon next.

>>10214805
The androids are just kind of autistic. That's AI for you I guess.

>>10214613
>Sorry for not explicitly stating that writers of books have cribbed from norse mythology for a long time as well
True. However, Gaiman's retellings are quite true to the originals, which hardly can't be said about parts cribbed by other various writers.

>>10214036

>>10214833
But if you actually care about authenticity you'd be reading the original texts instead of some britbongs novel where he looked up wikipedia beforehand. Especially since the only thing a brit could add or verify to the norse myths is how a Viking raid feels. Whereas if you wanted some sort of fun devil may care interpretation then you'd be better of playing Age of Mythology or something.

>>10214852
No one without a deep interest in either literature or mythology will read the Edda. Many people will however read literally anything Gaiman write and his book will give people a much better understanding than Age of Mythology (not hating on AoM, that's some good shit).

>>10214430
The series is mostly a drama revolving around relationships, so once the interest of Sleepless has worn off and you've gotten the gist of the plot, there's not much reason to plod to the end if you're not enjoying it.

>>10214791
Red Rising.
The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant for the opposite.
Literotica.com

>>10214852
Did you even read the fucking book? Why do the pseuds in this general start spouting shit without even reading the novel they are discussing.
>this book is like that
>even though I didn't read this book to be sure about that statement

>>10214414

Isn't Hugo supposed to be strictly SF?

Haven't read any in the pic but I'll go with rowling for the meme.
Most likely gaiman tho because he's where it's at.

Also surprised that Hobb is still shitting out her garbage. When will she learn?
That ilona andrews stuff has the YA-est cover art tho. How terrible is it?
>#1 New York Times Bestselling Author
>it's on every Sanderson book too
>really makes you think

Any fantasy stories of the protagonist solving a murder? Like kriminology in a fantasy setting?

>>10214993
Lovecraft

>>10214993
Guards! Guards! and the rest of the books with the City Watch

>>10214993
Dresden Files, they're actually good

I've read the hobbit and the lord of the rings, starship troopers, and farenheit 451. That is basically all the experience I have with sffg. What should I read to get me into it? I am looking for a comfy fantasy book, but complex enough to make me use my brain.

>>10214414
They all look garbage, judging solely by their covers and names. Kings of the Wyld looks like viking shit, and I don't think I've ever really seen fantasy done in that setting, so that might be cool.

>>10215082
Wheel of Time is the ultimate comfy.

>>10215074
This is cool but utterly unreadable

I like bitches and waifus
Tell me good fantasy books with bitches and waifus

>>10215082
Probably Wheel of Time (>>10214778). It's what really got me into reading again.

>>10215093
I know, but it's different from this picture that I usually posted. Which seems to be the newest version of the guide you just provided. The only redeeming value is the dates of publication.

>>10215082
>comfy
Got you more than covered friend.
You can start anywhere you like, except maybe the first and last three books by date of publication.

>>10215108
I can't actually think of any canid waifus. Underserved niche prolly.

>>10215074
>>10215093
Wow, i didnt expect that something like that actually exists...ill check it out

>>10215076
im not that much into urban fantasy, but dresden files gets mentioned quite often, i might check it out, thx

>>10214993
The Archonate series by Matthew Hughes.

>>10215082
There is only one option.

>no kaladin chapter this week again
>double shalan chapters
>shalan gets into another shit situation and comes out smelling like a flower that shits out chocolate and cotton candy and everyone around her ends up looking like a dumb cunt
>isn't she fucking awesome

shit week, fuck this ginger whore.

>>10215188
yes she's a god-awful character. characters who are described as "quick-witted" or "sharp-tongued" are invariably shit.

banter has to go

>>10213536
I'll pipe in and say that while this series is not groundbreaking or revolutionary in any way, it was a very enjoyable coming of age story. A nice cast of characters, a main character that isn't overpowered (right away at least), and some fun twists.

Some cliche stuff in here, but not overbearing.

>>10214993
I remember a pretty decent short story called "Insufficient Evidence", but I don't remember who wrote it.

>>10215082
I would recommend either the Pryddain books by Lloyd Alexander, or if you're willing to venture into a more sci-fi milieu, the three Elijah Baley novels by Asimov.

>>10215188
Sanderson legit has trouble writing females that aren't mary sues

Get hyped for the one volume Earthsea collection, fully illustrated. It's coming out next year.

Which program you use to read anons?
Adobe acrobat makes images shit.

>>10215339
>images
honeyview

>>10214778
This but unironically

>>10215379
This

>>10215216
>Sanderson legit has trouble writing
FTFY

>>10214993
The City and the City.
>ywn be on a case with Tyador Borlu

>>10214791
Worm has a very similar plot. Literally almost the same plot in fact.

>>10215143
If you read Dresden Files, know that the first two books aren't going to be amazing. Book 3 and onward is excellent though.

>>10214993
The Wolfhound Century series by Peter Higgins is set in a sort of Fantasy Russia that's been modernizing to around 1930s tech levels. The main character is a police inspector summoned to the capital to hunt down a terrorist, but ends up getting involved in weirder things.

>>10216094
The first two books were his homework from a writing class that his teacher said "yeah, this is publishable, let me call my agent."

Also the working title was Semiautomagic.

>>10215221
Sauce?

>>10215339
>program
I use a book.

>>10216180
>Semiautomagic
i remember that actually.
wasnt the dresden files originally going to be a litrpg where magic is put together from different building blocks? similar to electronics?

>>10214206
We are just getting old, man. Every year more young people will be here and probably less and less of us older people.

Why is it so fucking hard to just commit to a story? Holy shit, writing is awful.

>>10215082

>>10216617
Naw your kind will always be here.

>>10215082
Gormenghast trilogy.

I made a reading chart based on Lovecraft's essay "Supernatural Horror in Literature." Throwing it into the online aether.

>>10216639
Why is there a zealots section?

>>10216753
Thank you anon. I no longer have to finish the horror chart I promised a month ago.

>>10216780
Hey, no problem. The essay was ideal for a chart like this.

Just finished Asimov's Foundation today - should I jump into the next one (Foundation and Empire)? Does it continue a similar format of storytelling (jumping ahead and such)?

>>10216188
http://www.unboundworlds.com/2016/07/press-release-the-books-of-earthsea-publishing-2018/

>>10216932
>tfw it will make tehanu and following even worse when directly compared to wizard of earthsea and farthest shore

what did /sffg/ think about the story in shadow of mordor/war?

>>10216958
I thought it was considered blasphemy according to the literary canon?

>>10215194
I’m leaning towards that one

>>10216958
lacked a t-rex.

>>10216847
A little, it has perspective shifts, but the story is pretty much continual chronologically.

It ties the series in with the Robot series. I don't know if that's your cup of tea. You probably should read them if you want to read Robots and Empire.

>>10217096
Foundation and Empire =/= Robots and Empire

>>10217160
Oh, derp.

Foundation and Empire is longer and more structured than the original Foundation. Instead of 5 (?) short stories, you have two novellas, one longer than the other. Same general setup, the two stories are set quite a bit apart chronologically. They're well worth a read, as is Second Foundation. I'm so used to dealing with them as a trilogy I honestly forgot someone could be talking about the first work and not the second.

>>10216780
>Why is there a zealots section?
Because while making this chart I planned to put in some books filled with zealot characters /plot... But I forgot the examples I had / used them in other sections. I cba to delete when done, using the excuse I would get to it later.... Months later and I still cba.
Should have written done what I was going to put in each section... but who plans anyways?

>ready player one
What would be you guys reaction if we formed a bond from the love of Lovecraft and CAS, and at a planned meet up you discovered I was black?

>>10217288
Did you enjoy the book?

>>10217288
>the love of Lovecraft and CAS
coincidentally, I just requested the book of their correspondence through interlibrary loan

>>10216652
...he said, ironically predicting his future.

>>10217288
I'd be surprised at your detachment, given that Lovecraft's racism is spammed all the time on /lit/ and /pol/.

Is it just me or is Lovecraft undergoing a seachange in terms of the perception of his work? I'd swear a decade ago he was solely the domain of cutters and goth fat chicks and now he's damn near canon.

>>10217381
There's still a lot of goths and such, but I do agree with you. I think as the sp00ky tentacle aesthetic has grown in the pop culture over the past decade, more actual readers have ended up picking up his stuff and actually reading it.

reading dying earth, on "cugel's saga" right now, maybe at the halfway mark, I don't know
it's a lot better than the first cugel book (eyes of the overworld) and I've even laughed out loud a couple of times
though, I loved the ending to the first one, with cugel sitting on the beach in despair
he's a complete shit and only when he's set against someone as bad or worse than him do I root for him (and even then half-heartedly) but it works

>>10216932
>fall of 2018
WEW

>>10214843
What's a good story to start cultivating with?

>>10215997
I don't remember Homura shooting Madoka in the back of the head execution style.

>>10216753
>modern
>most recent death 1957

Make a new row and put somebody new on there you prick

>>10213530
>The Crimson Queen by Alec Hutson is at first appearance a book that might cause your eyes to glaze over it. Its cover has an unusual shade of yellow in its background along with a generic appearance of an old city. That however would be your first and last mistake.

Robert Thompson's spoke man, this is your book

I'm just a consumer.

>>10216753
>Lovecraft's guide
What did he mean by that?

I havn't read a book in years and i'm currently trying to write two or three different stories I have mostly worked out in my head but I can only get four pages in before getting lazy.

What are some good non-standard philosophical scifi?

By non-standard, I mean less social and political philosophy, which seems to be the norm, and more metaphysics (playing around with things like: what exists, weird theories of causation), epistemology (playing around with theories of knowledge, belief), and that sort of thing.

>>10218005
Blindsight my nibba

>>10217888
>just
dont belittle yourself anon.
without you the mediom would not exist.

Just finished the night land re-write.

Feels like a wasted setting that would make a decent movie.

>>10217691
Warlock of the magus world.

>>10217939
I feel your pain bro.

>>10218005
Lord of Light.

>>10217381
>>10217455

I think the first Penguin collection from around 2000 opened up Lovecraft's readership a lot. I also think he's more approachable than Poe and Ambrose Bierce and the rest of the 19thC writers, which helps.

As for Clark Ashton Smith, he has always been obscure; his estate have been be sloth, and he wasn't championed in the same way as HPL and REH, by Derleth and Sprague Camp. Authorised and restored texts from him appeared only recently, along with the 2014 Penguin volume';the only way is up. More people will be discovering him - he is in some ways a superior writer to HPL, a better stylist and more worldly voice, but an ideal complement, and frankly a must for a weird fiction collection, but anybody with an interest in fantasy should also consider his Hyperborea and Zothique stories

PKD was definitely a tits guy

>>10218327

Lovecraft was also an object of philosophizing by continental philosophers as far back as the 80s. D&G's A Thousand Plateaus has Lovecraft in it, and influenced a lot of recent philosophy, especially the CCRU and some of the philosophers that sprouted from there, e.g. Nick Land, Mark Fisher, Eugene Thacker, etc. All of who have written material on the philosophy of horror and how it relates to Lovecraft.

anyone got a link for the crimson queen audiobook?

>>10218333
He seems to be a yandere guy. Susie Smart and Pat Conley were really classic examples of that archetype.

I feel that even Palmer Eldritch (with his glucks) and Kathy inherited streaks of it.

>>10218350
Yes, Lovecraft has a philosophical relevance that isn't found in Smith. It's very interesting to compare the two writers' strengths and weaknesses. I couldn't state that either is better than the other. But in my mind Lovecraft is the superior plotter, the way he builds up and foreshadows a story within the first person. He does also seem to have a better grip on scientific elements, and more of a philosophical hinterland which is feeding into the modern relevant you are alluding to.. Clark came to short story writing from poetry and it shows, the better prose writer, an aesthete, but an incredible imagination too, and more of a versatile writer across diverse genres and settings.

While I am talking about Clark; his sculpture, of ghouls, demons, aliens, and other weird images, seems to be turning up in random places even still. He made and sold many over a lifetime, I suppose many are still unaccounted for. If encourage anyone living near San Francisco or Northern CA to look at your local trinket shops for anything marked KA.

>>10217825
>>10217899
Read the footnote. The sections are verbatim from Lovecraft's essay.

>>10217825
Also, I'm planning on doing a more comprehensive chart once I get through some more horror, but that one won't have the "Lovecraft's Guide" conceit.

Would classify it as a tragedy. Lot's of action in space and firefights on the ground. Interesting backdrop with megastructures, mysterious aliens, and a galactic warzone. A few pacing problems. I see no reason for the rockclimbing thinker lady interludes, they break up the action but don't add anything to the story. To address the recommender from 1/2/whatever years ago: Lightly furred exterior alone does not a catgirl make.
3/5 dinosaurs and 1/5 on the catgirl scale

>>10218649
Did you see a reason for the poop-eater island?

>>10218657
Sure, it followed the overall formula of weird place where horrible stuff happens pretty well. Did it seem out of place to you?

>>10218666
It was just exceptionally nasty is all. It felt tonally jarring.

>>10218670
The book starts with the MC being put to death by drowning in excrement. Author is fairly descriptive of gore in other places as well.
I don't recall them specifically eating any dung, though it would have fit the theme of their religion. The description was fish heads, bones, shells, dirt etc. I do recall the prophet saying that food was just undigested excrement.

>>10218585
Tweaked the chart so that the description is a bit more noticeable than a footnote all the way at the bottom.

I have a 15 hour plane trip to China, a 13 hour layover and the same on the way back home.

If you had to bring one fantasy book with you, what would it be?

I like meme pleb fantasy like Wheel of Time, Sword of Truth, LotR, The First Law etc

Thinking about starting Black Company...

>>10219267
Black company, Malazan, The Red Knight, or Second Apocalypse if you want something edgy

>>10219267
>I like meme pleb fantasy
You have read Sword of Shannara, the plebbest of memes?

>>10219267
Break out into a higher class of stuff. Take along the Amber Chronicles with you.

>>10219267
play some bing bing wahoo on your switch

>>10219330
That doesn't sound very sffg

parody of "luke, i am your father" but backwards. "You are my father". Okay idea or stupid one?

>>10219375
Fallout 4 did it.

>>10219276
I have not. But I own it, good idea.

>>10219274
Been meaning to read Black Company

>>10219267
Try some meme patrician fantasy.

>>10219330
I don't know what any of that means

>>10219297
TL;DR: me pls? Can't look stuff up right now

>>10216958
Better than the canon

Does /sffg/ ever do these?

Heh, I'm rereading my Hammer's Slammers collection and I forgot there's a story where "Secretary Tromp" gets killed for betraying the Slammers.

>>10219573
Not often, but one will pop up from time to time.

>>10218408
http://audiobookbay.nl/audio-books/the-crimson-queen-alec-hutson/
just got uploaded
heres the magnet in case you arent registered.
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also in case no one knew audiobookbay has an rssfeed either for the entire site or per category.
its fairly convenient actually.

>>10219729
thank you!

I have shadow & claw and the first book of dragonlance in my backlog, which read first?

Does anyone know of GOOD apocalyptic fantasy books?
Something alike to night land but in a fantasy book?

Name one good sf/f book that came out in 2017

>>10219779
shadow & claw, you idiot

I finished re-reading Gene Wolfe's Shadow Of The Torturer, the first part of Book Of The New Sun. As suspected, the second read was much more satisfying than the first. Allusions were better appreciated; the whole St Katherine thing, and Severian's philosophical moments (e.g. discussing where the life of a person resides) as well as foreshadowing. I also had the benefit of my annotations from a previous read which had decoded the vocabulary, making the reading experience a less disjointed one without running to a dictionary every so often.

I was also able to appreciate the plotting of this book even better, and its tonal shifts, which seemed to arrive every fifty pages or so; Sev's nostalgic childhood at the Matachin Tower and encounter with Vodalus; his reticent guild initiation and conflicted time with Thecla; his free-wheeling departure and quixotic botanical garden sequence; subsequent entanglement in worldly affairs by chance/deceit, a duel, and Dr Talo's play. And some of the lore is downright enticing to behold even at the reread - the green moon, the cacogens, the exultants, the little peaks of Urth history and fable, the throwaway anecdotes and puzzling asides. It's to his credit that Wolfe can string the reader along willingly while puzzling and confounding them - and judging by Severian's torturer/writer analogy near the end Wolfe is very deliberate in his methods.

>>10219893
Murrhurrhurr

>>10219898
Why shadow & claw?
And why am i a idiot?

>every thread
>every week
>only book of new sun being discussed
i am fed up of this shit

>>10220080
It's a meme.
Why don't you tell me about your favorite book so that I can read your post without responding since I haven't read that book?

>>10218291
>1100 chapters
Holy shit!
>that summary
Holy shit!

At last I see! The Chinese were the TRUE masters of dark and edgy fanfiction all along! A perfect fusion of east and west, the pinnacle of achievement!

>>10219573
I've only done one.

>>10219779
Read Dragonlance if you've just gotten hair on your peaches. If it's reached your face, give BotNS a spin. If it goes over your head, just give it some more time.

>>10219905
CASbro, enlighten me regarding your annotation methods.
I was tempted to reread along with you but "The Company" was finally in at the library.

Vancebro, this is really good so far but I'm just a chapter in and "Snow Crash" is preventing me from getting too excited about the strong start.
Also picked up some P. G. Wodehouse: several of the Jeeves books.

>>10220190
>If it goes over your head, just wait until you've got some fur on your back.
Dammit, missed that one.

>>10219573

>>10220212
>pricks ears

>>10220190
Generally I underline problem words and come back to them after the chapter, and look up the definition in a dictionary/wikipedia. With BOTNS specifically the main problem earlier on was the palceocene dinosaur names; barylambdas and diatryma et al, and the names for soldiers (uhlans, dimarchi.)

But I also annotate to decode some of the important foreshadowing, allusions and symbols. With Christian references I will put a crucifix in the margin and a brief note, e.g. 'St Katherine (torture guild patron), Catholic intecerssor against sudden death.' I also throw the crucifix around when encountering something which can potentially be understood by Christianity or perhaps needs thinking about; this time around I noticed the amount of times Severian would philosophise about life and there would be some kind of biblical illusion; his bread/life observation, blood/chrism of the guild, Catherine wheel, acts of resurrection/miracle working and miracle working throughout. If something baffles me I will put a question mark beside it and return to it - the black beans anecdote at the end of the book is so tantalising.

I will also put an asterisk or line in the margin beside passages that stand out, something that's interesting or revealing about a character, setting, the author's intention, or just a part that uses language in an interesting way.

I did this routinely with challenging texts since an ill-advised English degree a decade ago.

What delayed books are you waiting for?

>>10219893
Oathbringer desu

>>10214778
>and most of the women will make you feel serene just by their peaceful and dignified presence - the perfect counterpoise to the never-ending action. Compared to them, the men feel a little off.

Motherfucker, I almost fell for it. KeK'd hard.

>>10220281
>English degree
>mutilates physical texts
Sir, I am confounded. 'Mirin your thoroughness, though.
I think I will do this as well with my ebook copy but on a separate notebook, just to give technology a stiff finger. I could try annotating on my Kobo but I'd prefer a painless suicide.

>>10220325
7 Things To Do Before You Die in Talgarth (Shades of Grey #2)
by Jasper Fforde

>>10219893
Wolf Moon was good.

>>10220329
seconded

I read A Scanner Darkly. Which Philip K Dick novel do I read next?

>>10220465
Ubik

>>10219905
>that image
>terminus est
>pointed tip

I finished Blindsight a couple days ago. I liked it quite a bit. Any of Watt's other novels worth a read?

>>10220398
My SF+F books are mostly second hand paperbacks with little resale value or particular rarity, no calf-skin or dragon parchment here. I also keep my annotations brief and in the margins/white space. It would be another matter with hardbacks and prestige format books - but they are so unwieldy that I hardly own any. I don't do it with everything either, but Wolfe is an author who demands navigational help.

I've used notebooks in the past, mostly spider diagrams with branching ideas and copied quotes that i liked. Pic related is one I did for Emphyrio. These are fun to make but they tend to make less sense when referring back to them, whereas annotations keep observations and findings close to the text.

>>10220486
Starfish is very good.
The sequel is good
The third book is meh

I didn't like the sequel to Blindsight very much.

The short stories are very good.

>>10220497
>>10220398

And for funsies here is one i did for Clarges/To Live Forever, where I must have been feeling arty what with all of the arrows.

I encourage SFFG to adopt the same habit, and jot down their notes and thoughts about the cucking in Bakker, etc.

Any books like Stranger Things or Life is Strange? I'm starting Firestarter tonight. have Carrie, The Mist, Wayward Pines on my list. I've heard Dean Koontz might have some stuff. anything else similar I should add?

>>10219905
WAIT WAIT WAIT
THE PROTAG IS BLACK?????
FUCKING D R O P E D!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FUCK OFF S J W SCUM Ò_Ó

>>10219905
Is Severian Grimsley?

Oh dear fucking god, I just read my previous night's writing and it's worse than I thought. I want to re-do it but last night's work was redoing the previous night.

It's pure cringe

>>10220651
>endlessly redoing instead of editing once you're done with the first draft
Hate to break it to you but you're never going to make it.

>>10220635
>>10220580
I dug that cover up because it's pretty bad. It gets the sword and face wrong. I think it was just artwork they had lying around or the artist was badly briefed.

Early in BOTNS Severian writes he has a long straight nose, sunken cheeks, and close-set eyes. And my feeling was is that he is a gaunt and ill looking figure. Terminus Est has a square edge, onyx and silver grip, a skull at each side of the guard, and a opal at the end of the pommel - and terminus est engraved on the blade. Sev describes the sword a lot more thoroughly than himself and enjoys fondling and polishing it in front of the women in his life.

I enjoy digging up questionable art though.

So I just remembered the existence of a fantasy serie that I read as a child, named Everworld, by K.A Applegate, the Animorph woman.
Wikipedia tells me that between 1996 and 2001 she published 12 tomes of everworld and 54 of animorphs.
While it's probably YA trash -I don't really remember- how does one even publish so many books?

>>10220651
This isn't your blog faggot.

>>10220571
I don't watch Netflix nor do I play video games, but judging from your book selection might I suggest some Ramsey Campbell? Especially The Influence and The Face That Must Die.

Also, check out Shirley Jackson, especially The Haunting of Hill House. Creepy stuff.

Pardon me if this does not fit what you requested.

>>10220732
>Ramsey Campbell
This influence shill is going hard.

>>10220748
Sorry about that. I got a bit carried away.

>>10220671
Im nearly done. My rule is that i can edit as I go but it doesn't count towards my daily quota. Thats why im stressed, because if I go back and edit i'd be doing three nights worth of writing after I already did 2 yesterday

>>10220701
Ghostwriters.

>>10220651
push through it nigga, if you just constantly rewrite you'll never finish whatever it is you're working on

>>10220701
thats only 5 books a year of what seem to probably be YA trash novels that are probably short reads. there are plenty of full time indie authors that write a novel a month and make a killing. pulp writers back in the day used to churn out like 2 novels or more a month. it's literally not that hard to wriet a 50-60k word novel in a month, thousands of normies with full time jobs do it every year for NaNoWriMo. a full time author can easily shit out 3000-5000 or more words a day, every day

Does making the main character a deserter make him seem like too much of a weakling?

>>10220973
depends on why he deserted. Did he chicken out or did he disagree with the war. Furthermore, it depends on how you depict the danger involved. People are jaded to an ordinary war, but if it's made nightmarish and hopeless enough it won't look as bad

>>10220963
anon, I was going to say the same thing but then I read the full post. It's not 12 in five years, it's 66

>>10220973
>>10220987
Hemingway's "A Farewell to Arms" would be good evidence to consider.

>>10220547
I forgot to ask, why did CAS use "KA" as his maker's mark?
>pillages BotNS
>leaves Vance's blessed leaves unscathed
Pic related.

>>10212601
>Do you even read sff novels?
Yeah, I have a box of sf I read from when I'm between more serious books.
>What sff books you enjoyed reading this year?
Some of the Berserker ones are pretty good, especially the early short stories. Pic related was also fun, but goofy.
>How many sff Books did you read this year?
At least 5; I haven't kept track.
>Recommend a book from the ones you read this year.
I don't remember if it was this year, but The Forever War was one of my favorites in recent memory.

>>10214414
Red Sister

Jemisin really won the Hugo two years in a row? Do I need to actually read this shit?

>>10219788
Dark Tower

>>10221133
She's overhyped because she black, but the Fifth Season trilogy is, even uncharitably, "not bad".

>>10221133
It's not the 70's anymore. The Hugo awards are safe to ignore nowadays.

>>10221260
>puppies are still complaining about not winning a popularity contest

don't worry guys, you still have all those 5/5 reviews on goodreads.

>>10221260
Just saying, consecutive. Peak devaluation?

any urban fantasy outside of The Magicians that isn't total shit?

Is there a consensus of what Vance's best series is? Or his best standalone? I wanna go down the Vance rabbithole.

>>10221284
???
>>10221286
I mean, Harry Potter won a Hugo not too long ago. So you can make of that what you will.

>>10221133
Brandon Sanderson won the hugoes.

>>10221288
I like Dresden Files, but I'm sure as the pseuds and edgelords here think it's shit.

>>10221347
Mayne, fucking Card won a bunch in the 80's. I think both Xenocide and Speaker for the Dead won and those are beyond awful.

>>10221133
I enjoyed them immensely. There's nothing really like them out there (except Shinsekai Yori supposedly), and she's got good storytelling and aesthetic sense. There's earthquake magic, a stone-age tech empire, rock people, an apocalypse loli and more. Simplest way I can explain it is The Road crossed with Shinsekai Yori.

She does have an undercurrent of social justice, but it's more opposition to the idea of slavery, eugenics, etc. than IMPEACH DRUMPF FUCK WYPIPO. If you can't handle a little gay sex in the first book then steer clear. At all times she's telling a story, and her story is crafted such that the SJW themes are essential - the opposite of what people complain about when such things are "tacked on" unnecessarily to a story.

Don't read them if you can't stand 2nd person narration (about a 3rd of the whole series) or multiple POVs.

As to the Hugo, it's a popularity contest. The books pass a bare minimum of quality to get read, has themes that fit the current political climate like a glove while being palateable to the majority, and she's black. I'd bet money she'll grab it again this year.

In sum, I recommend it.

>>10221437
The second Hugo winner ever was "They'd Rather Be Right" which Ansible's David Langford described as "the worst clunker ever to be voted a Hugo."

And if you go through lists of the nominations, a lot of them are generally just forgettable and generic even by contemporary standards.

>>10221288
The Library at Mount Char

>>10221096
>why did CAS use "KA" as his maker's mark?
From http://www.eldritchdark.com/articles/biographies/29/as-i-remember-klarkash-ton :
>Many of those who possess Klarkash-Ton's carvings, or who have seen and examined them, will have noted, and been puzzled by, the curious letters inscribed on the flat bases. They are the letters K and A with the K backwards. This was Klarkash-Ton's brand or signature and he signed most of his carvings with it—except when he forgot to do so before firing. When I asked for an explanation he replied that in the ancient Etruscan alphabet the K backwards stood for either a C or a K. In this case it stood for a C, the signature being his initials CA, for Clark Ashton.

>>10221461
Yeah well, sff is a niche made of niches which in themselves are made out of fetishes and really specific dos and donts. Don't be surprised when something you find dumb hits the exact right chord with a bunch of people.

>start reading et gets fit
>leasha whore paper first chapter
>mother and daughter whore duo reminisce about cucking their significant other
I hope leasha and that tranny baby dies a horrible death. That is the only way brett is going to redeem himself.

>>10218649

Just finished it. its way overwritten with long extended prose that doesnt add shit to the story.

I still liked it but fuck the last chapters were nightmare fuel.

Does Ians books get a bit easier to handle?

>>10221555
Was at a reading of his years ago and I remember how he chastised himself over that particular aspect of Phlebas in the q&a. In short they do, even immediately with Player of Games being way more succinct and usually the goto entry point people recommend for The Culture.

>>10221546
what a trainwreck of a series

>>10221383
Harry is what I don't want.
>>10221491
thanks I'll check it out

>>10220684
It's worth noting that what's engraved on the blade isn't the literal phrase "terminus est". It's a phrase in a language that has yet to be invented that will have a "dead but respected" function in Severian's time similar to how Latin is viewed in our society.

I suspect Severian's translation of it as "the line of division" is a reference to to Matthew 10:34.

"Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but division" (or "a sword" depending on translation)

>>10220684
>I enjoy digging up questionable art though.
Here, have the latest Polish edition of SotT.

>>10221503
>K backwards could mean K forwards or C
Language is governed by rules. Unfortunately for us, half of them are gibberish.

Interesting read, that. What a rare treat it must be to make a friend of your favorite author. I'm surprised that CAS was so willing to meet strangers at home, especially in such modest circumstances. I pictured him more diffidently.

Hello,

Do you guys have any recommendations for sf&f novels with reactionary political themes (especially those against the trend of introducing LGBT characters into these genres)? If not novels, do any of you know of any articles or essays pertaining to this topic?

Thanks.

>>10221714
Yes Book of the New Sun

>>10221714
you're not committing thought crime are you anon?

>>10221724
Thank you, anon.

>>10221736
w-what? I'm a good boy.

>>10221615
I kind of don't like how everything is just essentially space magic.

I know this is mostly for fiction but I want to write a fantasy novel in the medieval setting so can anyone recommend me books on how exactly Kingdoms functioned and life within them? Doesn't have to be a comprehensive book, I can deal with one book about, say, noble life and another about being a peasant but I'd like to know how everything functioned, like relationships between villages/towns/cities and other kingdoms.

>>10220992
Not >>10220963 but 66 books in six years, that's 11 a year or less that one per month.

>>10220963
>>10220992
The most likely case is either she had one of scene index systems set up like the old porn producers in the 80's and 90's or a writing circle helping her out.

>>10221766
Literally any google search book will do although they'll all be kinda wrong.
Historians are the worst kind of fan boy.

>>10221453
But she's a woman. A woman, for god's sake!

>>10221958
I figured as much. Was hoping for a definitive book so I can't have to roll the dice on online reviews since autists here have given me solid recommendations on books to buy thus far.

>>10221453
I enjoyed shinseki yori but only because it was a story about a purebred woman learning the importance of eugenics and slavery.

>>10221963
Time for you to go back to watching capeshit.

>>10221971
Go home, squealer.

>>10221963
>>10221453
Only watched the anime, never read.

>>10221747
No, you're a pathetic safe space intellectual midget that does not want to be challenged by what he reads. But read BotNS

>>10222062
>gay sex is intellectually challenging

>>10221630
The Matthew allusion escaped me, what you say has a ring of truth. I might read one of the gospels before Claw Of The Conciliator.

>>10221668
This looks very 80s/90s. To its credit it's a nifty painted artwork, of the kind we rarely see on new books, but that man doesn't look like Severian, more like a brigand.

>>10222156
You show yourself as a newfag. Any persons on 4chin for long periods of time wants to fuck Linetrap and jessica slaughter.

>>10222156
Lmao, fuck outta here you utter pleb

>>10221962
Well how realistic do you want to be?

I'm a bit of a an amateur real life shit poster myself and I've found that being overly faithful to the real world can ruin immersion.

Just aim for consistency and you'll be fine.

>>10222156
>implying it's not

>>10221750
Well that doesn't stop. If anything the tech level only gets more ludicrous.

>Do you even read sff novels?
Do Light novels count? if they do I've read quite a bit
>What sff books you enjoyed reading this year?
currently plowing through Spice and Wolf but if not I finished Baru Cormorant recently
>How many sff Books did you read this year?
Must be alteast 20 some odd by now
>Recommend a book from the ones you read this year.
If I can recommend a light novel Infinite Dendrogram was a fun read, if not then Embassytown had me thoroughly engrossed

>reading Fall Of Dragons
>tranny character starts getting pc, immersion breaking pronouns like hir out of nowhere, after being treated normally in the last book.

I am upset.

Aside from a female companion or working 12 hour shifts for minimum wage, is there anything more than reading a jack vance novel for a few hours and then doing pic related till the eyes won't stay open?

>>10222518
You'd have to be a special kind of faggot to play m&b with a tolkien mod

FUCKING LEASHA PAYPWHORE WHY DOES SHE HAVE SO MUCH BOOK TIME? I DON'T WANT TO READ ABOUT THAT HOME WRECKING SLUT. FUCK BRETT AND HIS TRANNY NOVEL JESUS FUCK

have you read shaneequandria's advantures in capeshitland yet?
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/36130625-andrea-vernon-and-the-corporation-for-ultrahuman-protection

>>10222643
>he didn’t drop that series after best boy died

Literally asking for it.

>>10221284
There aren't any puppies anymore.

>>10214993
Asimov's Robot series if you are okay with a sci-fi setting.

>>10222157
>I might read one of the gospels before Claw Of The Conciliator.
Might as well read them all, they're pretty short and even Mark has oft-alluded-to passages.

>>10222477
do writers just feel pressured to include this shit now or what?

>>10222574
>You'd have to be a special kind of faggot to play m&b with a tolkien mod
b-but its a good mod

>>10222643
honest word

>>10212601
Hi anons, I'm from a couple days back and decided to start reading A Game of Thrones, but I'm just going to be a lazy shit since I'm in the middle of no where and buy them off amazon since driving to the nearest bookstore is like 40 mintues one way.

Can anyone confirm if this bundle https://www.amazon.com/Thrones-Clash-Kings-Swords-Dragons/dp/0345535529/ref=tmm_mmp_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1509732550&sr=1-3 is corrupted by the TV show? I want to read the books but I'm worried that they might have "revised" them or some shit because of the popularity of the show.

>>10223426
a: why would you buy that shit just go dl it
b: I would advise against reading it, its terrible
c: buy used off amazon if you have to buy

>>10223438
A: I'm on a campus, can't torrent. Besides I'd rather have a book in person.
B: You're gonna have to be more specific than that.
C: Planned on it, Martin already makes too much money off this shit.

>>10223426
it's not been altered

>>10223442
a: why the hell would you dl a book with a torrent, you use IRC or libgen or mobilism
b: It's awful
c: good

>>10223447
A: Holy shit read, you'd think you'd do that much on a fucking board about fucking reading, I said I'd prefer to have the book in person.
B: Still not specific
C: No shit

ANy works that feature magical vows like in feanor of silmarillion?

Is there any science fiction story where aliens domesticate humans into pets? I know Fantastic Planet but I don't think it's been done very much even though you could do a lot with the specific concept.

>>10223639
There's a short story "The Last Men" by Frank Belknap Long, Jr. that has humans being bred by alien insect overlords. Pretty sure I've come across the trope elsewhere, but that's all that comes to mind.

>>10223490
brapapap

>>10223461
Not the same anon. A Game of Thrones, A Clash of Kings, and A Storm of Swords are all excellent. A Feast for Crows is different, but still enjoyable. A Dance with Dragons is really bad.

>>10223842
Is the 6th books ever coming out?

>>10223887
rotflmfaofam

>>10223914
You'd think someone with as much money as him would live elsewhere

ANy book with seriously overpowered protags?
Like a lvl 20 mage in dnd?

>>10223923
That's probably a really big house though.

>>10223927
Creatures of Light and Darkness.

>>10223914
>>10223923
It's not just the location, it's the inanity of it. The man is supposed to be a fantasist yet he's living in a suburban McMansion with twenty square feet of Astroturf while he pays taxes for the privilege of having rocks for a backyard and a gazebo he's too lazy to walk to.
At least Rowling bought a castle.

>>10223992
It's a shrewd move, a paid-off mcmansion is better than a mortgaged castle that would be repossessed when they finally get tired of waiting for Winds of Winter.

>>10223923
Why? Santa Fe is a huge haven for filthy hippies an other artsy types. It's also located right next to Albuquerque, the biggest city in NM and 32nd biggest in the US.

What are some really fun D&D books? I am not big on vast, epic Tolkeinesque stuff. I wanna read something pulpy and loinclothy with adventurers going into dungeons and hacking up skeletons.

>>10224041
I have never seen so many emergency vehicles going in so many different directions as when I passed through Albuquerque.

>>10224053
Conan, Fafhrd, Cugel.

>>10223992
delivery guy with dominos and pepsi about to arrive

>>10224060
>I have never seen so many emergency vehicles going in so many different directions as when I passed through Albuquerque.
They probably missed a turn :3

>>10221317
I was hoping someone else would chime in here because I'm hardly a consensus so much as an unabashed shill but I'll give you what I think the hoi polloi thinks.
The Demon Princes is the most popular series.
"Emphyrio" would be the standalone.

>>10224065
Now I'm surprised the RC truck isn't pulling a pizza-sized trailer.

>>10221317
>>10224092
People are usually more familiar with Dying Earth, but he was prolific and his other series all have their fans. My favorite work of his was Dragon Masters, which is standalone and also a novella, and I gather it gets a lot of praise from other people too.

>>10222259
realistic "enough". It's mostly for me to be honest

New thread:
>>10224328
>>10224328
>>10224328

>>10221546
I've read the first three books and bought the rest recently. I hope it's not as bad as it sounds.
The first half of the Warded Man was one of the best fantasy I've read ever, started going downhill since then.

>>10224467
there's not even a dead cat bounce