/lit/ - Literature

>>10194239
We don't discuss Palmer enough anymore

You messed up the previous thread order. The new one goes at the top of the list.

>>10194239
Palmer has great taste in covers.

I didn't get it. I didn't get the point it was trying to make, I didn't understand the characters' motivations, I lost track of which imaginary oppressed people was which.

First book was great, now I'm wondering if I should even bother with the third.

>>10194273
yeah, I don't post much anymore
just re-read the first chapter of TLTT after my bookshelf, got my wondering how /sffg/ is doing

>"Hey George, you know how you named a dragon Drogon?"
>"Yeah, kid?"
>"I called my dragon book Eragon."
>"..."

>>10194293
>First book was great, now I'm wondering if I should even bother with the third.
Like so many other books this year, it fucking killed itself before the trilogy was done. And Breq never goes back to being a hivemind they get stuck on the scifi equivalent of a fucking asteroid for the rest of book 3 and repeatedly drink tea and it's only really worth reading for the cute sociopathic Presger shenanigans, the translators are pretty hilarious but that's about it.

Authors should really try to stick to putting their all into one book rather than shoving all their ideas into the first book and having no idea how to deal with the fallout. Finished Maze of Death yesterday, another great PKD story and all his books come to about 200 pages with no filler, which is far too short in my opinion but the plot is very concise unlike all the new authors who are eager to fill a trilogy with one book's worth of ideas.

But no one will ever beat Dan Simmons at his game of turning his entire universe into a fanfic of itself, or whatever Endymion was supposed to be.

>>10194374
>GEORGE RELEASED ANOTHER BOOK THAT ISN"T WINDS OF WINTER

>>10194392
Honestly I suspect what happened was she wrote the first book and the publisher said "great, we'll take it as a trilogy" so she just sort of half-assed the sequels to get paid.

Anybody read Provenance yet?

>>10194634
At this point he's doing it to spite people.

>>10193061
America was made from of immigrants stealing the natives lands. Stop trying to behave like it was something else. You and your forefathers are all land grubbing illegal aliens.

What's preferable?

>creating unique mythical creatures
>breathing new life into obscure ones

Oops, missed that a new thread was made.

How bad is the drop in quality in lightbringer books after the first one? All the hype for that series seems to have died, it can't be 3 books of full of tight pussy right? Has to be something else wrong with it.

>>10195057
>Implying the people there didnt kill off the previous inhabitants

>>10195227
couldn't even manage to finish the first book desu
the mc is a massive pussy

Has anyone read this absolute masterpiece of literature? Honestly 9/10 pulpy fun.

Conrad "Fucks Bitches Gets Money" Stargard

>>10195161
Neither. I honestly can't stand mythical creatures in my fantasy. I'm all about that shit where it's just humans.

>>10195326
Maybe if I wasn't a fucking retard I would have attached the cover.

>>10195161
God writing. Either one works as long as you do it right. Though you probably shouldn't just straight up use a mythological creature, for the simple reason that most of them suck ass and were beaten into the dust a long time ago. You always need SOMETHING to differentiate. Even just changing the name or slightly altering the appearance.
But more importantly, just write well, nothing else matters. You can have a great book with sphinxes and chimeras and selkies and gremlins, or you can wind up with Harry Potter. It's all up to you.

>>10195241
So? If that's the case there's nothing inherently wrong with Mexicans eventually replacing you.

>>10195378
And nothing wrong with whites hunting down and scalping all the Mexicans, eating their hearts, and invoking their ancient gods to genocide all non-whites so they can reclaim the earth.

>>10195406
By your guidelines there's nothing wrong either. Except only one of those situations is going to happen :^)

>>10195227
The drop was because a whole book was wasted on pussy elasticity.

>>10195420
Agreed, only one.

>>10195331
>>10195326
>quest for rubber
Did some girl offer pussy but he has no "strap"? Is this novel about him finding a dick sleeve?

>>10195057
>natives

The natives were long dead bro, those who conquered and ethnically cleansed them were in turn conquered (while they were constantly at war with each other)
Except whitey not only left some of their descendants alive but they also improved their quality of life by leaps and bounds.

>yfw you realize that first contact with white people had more of an impact on shitskins than the discovery of fire

>>10195453
>everything white touches is forever changed for the better
>whites do no wrong
>whites invented everything and discovered everything
>everyone else steals other people's culture for their own not whites
>my ancestors were more nobel than everyone today
>because some caucasian guy did something decades ago that means me, as someone who lives in a basement also did it, and I should take pride in it and rub it in other people's faces as my personal accomplishment
>>>/pol/ >>>/s4s/ >>>/bant/

>>10195453
>The natives were long dead bro
>Muh solutreans
Oh fucking please. You could at least TRY to point out how bloody tribal warfare among natives was.

>>10195472
Yes, that's all true. What about it?

What is the lewdest fantasy out there? Am I asking the right question? I want a fantasy erotica with orc gals and harpies and stuff. But I don't want some vanilla shit your mother would read.

Now that I'm in the mood, does anyone have any recommendations for good colonization fantasy or sci-fi?


>>10195476
Why would I need too?

The "natives" had no rights of ownership or just outright traded it for beads and whitey didn't immigrate into their nations.

>>10195472
This is all correct, every civilization that was conquered by whitey is better than those that weren't.

>>10195472
Honestly I prefer the type of person you're describing to angry, bitter, minorities who have never gotten over their peoples' failures. I don't really know what to say to them, sorry you lost I guess?

>>10195326
I'm eager to read something like this because isekai shit just does it for me.

>>10195161
Do both.

>>10195505
I read a "she's still warm" fantasy book once, I can't remember what it was though

>>10195505
So basically GRI?
I know no self respecting mother would read this: Black Jewels Trilogy.

>>10195571
Not that guy but from what I looked at black jewels just had gri happen off page in the past tense or fade to black, disappointing desu.

>>10195517
Losing is not the problem. The problem is a bunch of racist basement dwellers who haven't accomplished anything in life listing off OTHER people's accomplishments like its their own.
They post stats that match with their world view, and when you post evidence that shows they are wrong they call the source not reputable.
They talk about normie media, yet they hang around yahoo all day to post their fabricated shit once any story is posted.

Anyways this is sffg, unless the book is dhalgren we are discussing, this convo has no place here.

>>10195584
Read it and see if you rod doesn't stay in your hand the entire time.

>>10195593
There is no evidence proving they are wrong though, desu.

The problem is hordes of shitskins trying to claim they are owed something for suffering they never experienced while not being grateful for the benefits they do experience.

>>10195584
>>10195598
How much gay rape and incest are we talking here?

>>10195632
>How much gay rape and incest are we talking here
Cock rings, femdom, forced incest, willing incest, loli rape, penis self mutilation, mind break, orgasm denial, daddy satan, etc

>>10195644
>Cock rings, femdom, forced incest, willing incest, loli rape, penis self mutilation, mind break, orgasm denial, daddy satan, etc
BUENO

>>10195476
>it's the old "'white' people aren't as violent as those SAVAGES!" joke

>>10195598
>>10195644
Can't find any complete torrents, not enough seeds desu

>>10195593
I've never heard anyone on this site claim to have invented the steam engine or written the complete works of Shakespeare, but I HAVE heard minorities try to claim other peoples' accomplishments for their own.

>>10195684
>why pepal be violent and shit.jpg
>no rape fueled blood offerings to heathen gods depicted

Hmmm.

>>10195684
They would justify that pic.
Also not lit

>>10195684

And yet that war led to a treaty that reduced the frequency and extent of future wars. Is there a black Grotius?

>>10195708
Whites claimed for decades that Egyptians were white, they tried to fabricate documents and research that helped corroborated this. Nappy even went as far as disfiguring the sphinx so no one would see the nose.

I don't know why you pol cucks don't stay in pol. When you bring your meme stats against actual educated people you lose every time. Lit always puts yall in your place. You always move goalposts to win arguments in the end. Just leave.

>>10195733
>low quality bait.gif

Stop de-railing the thread anon.

>>10195538
It's exactly like your chinese cartoons so you'll like it. Main character is a Mary Sue with a literal harem of 14 year olds.

>>10195447
He doesn't need a dick sleeve. He doesn't know it but during time travel he got cured of any and all diseases he was carrying and immunised against anything the locals have.

>>10195326
>Frankowski's most recent work again featured Conrad Stargard. He wrote Lord Conrad's Crusade in collaboration with Rodger Olsen, which his then-publisher Baen rejected 'for "bad writing" (an explanation Frankowski doubted). Baen also terminated its contracts for other upcoming titles.

Something Baen WON'T publish?!? Never thought I'd see the day!

>>10193845
I envisioned that you'd post it together with a recommendation. For example, if I ask if Abercrombie is a good writer you'd answer yes or no and post your chart so I could judge your taste and recommendation.

>>10194561
But him becoming one with Thecla does change him and the narrative. The descriptions of his interactions with Thecla in the early parts of the book become quite different.

Does Jack Vances' Dying Earth series hold up in the modern day? Or is it just something that should be appreciated for the effect it had on the genre?

>>10195806
Not sure I'd call the proficiency of the actual writing downright "bad," though the storywriting is definitely pretty bad. The only character to receive more than a glance of development is the MC, the storytelling is "this happened then this happened" with an occasional interspersed scene that expands on something, there's the whole Mary Sue aspect of it, and of course it is pretty blatant wish fulfillment.

I would equate reading the books to watching the Transformers movies. It's possible but you really need to switch your brain off if you're going to bother.

>>10195692
from mobilism:
https://userscloud.com/77ujjl0mmqem

>>10195472 >>10195733
>because some caucasian guy did something decades ago that means me, as someone who lives in a basement also did it
>Whites claimed for decades that Egyptians were white, they tried to fabricate documents and research that helped corroborated this.
>You can't take pride in your ancestor's accomplishments!
>You must carry the burden of your ancestor's faults!

Also >>10195057 >>10195593
>Let me link to a previous thread to point out to everyone that white males did something very bad in the past
>Anyways this is sffg, unless the book is dhalgren we are discussing, this convo has no place here.

This is you. You're the worst type of hypocritical piece of shit. You claim you're intelligent but you never seem to apply this intelligence to introspection. This makes you a holier-than-thou cunt.

t. happily engaged STEM ph.d white male who's never lurked /pol/.

>>10194239
Can anyone recommend me some good sci-fi/space opera? I've read all the Culture novels of Iain M Banks, and enjoy and have read much Alastair Reynolds, Peter Hamilton and Stephen Baxter. Any new sci-fi recommends that are of, or surpass, the authors I listed in quality?

>>10195972
>>10195241
>>10195406
>>10195057
Neck yourselves, mongrels. Take that shit to /pol/ or one of the bait threads around here, if you want to sperg out.

>>10195972
Did you come straight from /r/t_D, autismo? Because your posts are more retarded than the rest. Slit your wrists.

>>10195972
>truly... we have become autism

>>10195972
Kill yourself

>>10194239
Wow I should probably reread the first 2 books to prepare. And I've hardly read any sff since Seven Surrenders, maybe the holidays will give me some time to work through my unread Wolfe, Lem, Dick, and so on. Nina Allan has a new novel out too...

>>10195986
This was my first post. Sorry anon.

>>10195972
>t. happily engaged STEM ph.d white male

Kek. Neck yourself

>>10195839
It's not outdated and I see no reason for it ever to become so. Appreciation for the effect it had on the genre is simply a bonus.

>>10195733
No offense, but you don't write like an "actual educated" person.

Tbh, I don't even use /pol/. I just enjoy baiting libshits.

>He reads books by women
>He reads books with implicit cultural marxist values
>He reasd books with female protagonists
>He reads books with homosexuality
>He reads urban fantasy

lol

>>10196236
Hang yourself you fucking retard. Don't post if you don't have anything of value to contribute. This is a general, not your autistic bait shitpost. Either lurk more, or fuck off.

>>10196241
He got you bad

>>10196244
He reads all of the above lol

I know not that many people read horror on here, but picture related is amazing if you want some modern spooks that aren't Stephen King.

>>10196236
>literally nothing wrong with any of the things on that list

why so salty, anon?

>>10196246
>>10196236
At least he reads.
List 15 sff books that you read this year.

>>10196391
they don't read
they just here to meme
which is why you won't get no answers

Holy fuck, I just realised that I learned the word vicissitudes from an anime.

>>10196391
Cradle series
Kings Dark Tidings series
The Lost Prophecy series
Set in Stone series
plenty of others

>>10196493
>dk holmberg

Might as not have read at all desu

>>10196506
I like his stuff & he doesn't take years between books

>>10196244
>>10196246
>>10196236
Why don't you swallow 50 redpills and off yourself? Fucking samefag faggot. Get cancer and rot.

>>10196628
not accurate

>>10196628
>Get cancer and rot.
Your (literally) faggot ass will rot from AIDS first.

Would it kill you chuckleheads to just not respond to bait?

>>10196655
>woman author

>>10196660
Indeed. Only book I've read so far where a potted plant makes unwelcome sexual advances on the MC.

>>10196664
O rly?

>>10196667
Yah really.
By rights it should be the other way round, eh?

The nubile tanned woman cringed as her owner brought forth an erect penis. "I am a nubile woman!" She cried indignantly. "How dare you sex me before my time! Guards!" She called. "Guards!"

Borin, her owner, placed one hand on his penis, and the other on the table and looked at her. "You will be fucked" he said.

"You do not dare to sex me!" laughed the woman, her oiled tan lines gleaming in the low light.

"You will be fucked," said Borin.

"Do not sex me!" wept the plant.

"You will be fucked," said Borin.

I watched this exchange. Truly, I believed the woman would be fucked. She was a woman, and on Gor she had no rights. Perhaps on Earth, in its permissive society, which distorts the true roles of all beings, which forces both woman and owner to go unhappy and constrained, which forbids the fulfillment of owner and woman, such might not happen. Perhaps there, it would not be fucked. But it was on Gor now, and would undoubtedly feel its true place, that of woman. It was female. It would be fucked at will. Such is the way with women.

Borin guided his penis, and muchly fucked the woman. The woman cried out. "No, Master! Do not fuck me!" The master continued to fuck the woman. "Please, Master," begged the tan nubile, "do not fuck me!" The master continued to fuck the woman. It was female. It could be fucked at will.

The supple female sobbed muchly as Borin extracted his penis. It was not pleased. Too, it was wet and sore. But this did not matter. It was female.

"You have been well fucked," said Borin.

"Yes," said the female, "I have been well fucked." Of course, it could be fucked by its master at will.

"I have fucked you well," said Borin.

"Yes, master," said the female. "You have fucked your woman well. I am female, and as such I should be fucked by my master."

The older woman next to the nubile supple tanned woman shuddered. She attempted to cover her small form with her small frail arms and small hands. "I am female," she said wonderingly. "I am of Earth, but for the first time, I feel myself truly womanlike. On Earth, I was able to control my fucking. I often scorned those who would fuck me. But they were weak, and did not see my scorn for what it was, the weak attempt of a small older woman to protect herself. Not one of the weak Earth owners would dare to fuck a female if she did not wish it. But on Gor," she shuddered, "on Gor it is different. Here, those who wish to fuck will fuck their women as they wish. But strangely, I feel myself most womanlike when I am at the mercy of a strong Gorean master, who may fuck me as he pleases."

"I will now fuck you," said Borin, the older woman's Gorean master.

The mature beauty did not resist being fucked. Perhaps she was realizing that such fucking was its master's to control. Too, perhaps she knew that this master was far superior to those of Earth, who would not fuck her if she did not wish to be fucked.

>>10196682
Book?????

>>10196682
The plant one is funny. This is just dumb.

>>10196682
Cringe

>>10195684
>beating the goose
fuck white people

>>10196660
Slit your wrists.

>>10196645
My ass is fine, your crack whore mother uses a condom on her strapon. Her ass, on the other hand... She loves shitting my seed under your pillow. She almost looks cute doing that, then she prays to the nut-fairy to make you into a man; no matter. He both know that you're a handicapped kissless sperg.

From my new novel, The Mongrels that Come Before.

>>10196695
Gor

>>10196682
The nubile tanned plant cringed as her owner brought forth an erect hose. "I am a nubile plant!" She cried indignantly. "How dare you water me before my time! Guards!" She called. "Guards!"

Borin, her owner, placed one hand on his hose, and the other on the table and looked at her. "You will be watered" he said.

"You do not dare to water me!" laughed the plant, her oiled tan leaves gleaming in the low light.

"You will be watered," said Borin.

"Do not water me!" wept the plant.

"You will be watered," said Borin.

I watched this exchange. Truly, I believed the plant would be watered. She was a plant, and on Gor she had no rights. Perhaps on Earth, in its permissive society, which distorts the true roles of all beings, which forces both plant and gardener to go unhappy and constrained, which forbids the fulfillment of gardener and plant, such might not happen. Perhaps there, it would not be watered . But it was on Gor now, and would undoubtedly feel its true place, that of vegetation. It was a plant. It would be watered at will. Such is the way with plants.

Borin guided his hose, and muchly watered the woman. The woman cried out. "No, Master! Do not water me!" The master continued to water the plant. "Please, Master," begged the tan nubile, "do not water me!" The master continued to water the plant. It was a plant. It could be watered at will.

The supple plant sobbed muchly as Borin extracted his garden hose. It was not pleased. Too, it was wet and sore. But this did not matter. It was a plant.

"You have been well watered," said Borin.

"Yes," said the plant, "I have been well watered." Of course, it could be watered by its gardener at will.

"I have watered you well," said Borin.

"Yes, master," said the plant. "You have watered your plant well. I am watered, and as such I should be watered by my gardener."

The older plant next to the nubile supple tanned plant shuddered. She attempted to cover her small form with her small frail arms and small hands. "I am a plant," she said wonderingly. "I am of Earth, but for the first time, I feel myself truly plantlike. On Earth, I was able to control my watering. I often scorned those who would water me. But they were weak, and did not see my scorn for what it was, the weak attempt of a small older plant to protect herself. Not one of the weak Earth owners would dare to water a plant if she did not wish it. But on Gor," she shuddered, "on Gor it is different. Here, those who wish to water will water their women as they wish. But strangely, I feel myself most plantlike when I am at the mercy of a strong Gorean gardener, who may water me as he pleases."

"I will now water you," said Borin, the older plant's Gorean gardener.

The mature beauty did not resist being watered. Perhaps she was realizing that such watering was its gardener's to control. Too, perhaps she knew that this gardener was far superior to those of Earth, who would not water her if she did not wish to be watered.

>erotic fiction
>fucking stupid meme bondage fiction

Mary-Sue
A sexist term used to enforce the misogynistic ideals that female characters/authors shouldn't be allowed to fantasize or write anything along the lines of wish fulfillment. Its misogynistic qualities are exemplified in many ways, most notably being the fact that it's not a term dominated by the male counterpart despite existing in a patriarchal society, as well as the fact that the male counterpart is largely undecided upon in name and also undefined (see urban dictionary's Gary Stu entry which has no definition but to say "A Male Mary Sue", and the Marty-Stu entry which involves the "Mary Sue" definition to define it).

It's usually used on the whole to bully new authors out of writing female characters altogether, making the task seem so daunting to some that they now only write slash fictions with two male characters, also exemplifying the misogynistic qualities this term involves.

>>10196866
We're now at poorly editing a poor edit of a hilarious parody of a stupid book? I wanna go home.

>>10196969
Don’t forget, you’re here forever.

>>10195505
wild wastes is basically smut about a guy with a harem of monster girls.
the first girl he encounters is an orc woman.
its not really any good but its one of the few books with orc romance. also driads are cannonically all cuckqueens.

I can't get into Cherryh. Her descriptions of things are so bland and sterile, it's like there's no style or aesthetic sense. I've tried Cyteen, Downbelow Station, and 40 000 in Gehenna, and I haven't got past 10% in any of them. Should I give up on her?

>>10197392
don't read women

>>10197392
She can be rather dry and you've chosen some of her driest, Gehenna in particular is rather painful to read. If you're set on SciFi, try Rimrunners or Finity's End. If you don't mind switching to fantasy, her Fortress series is more emotive and the Russian stories have some nice atmosphere.

>I'm a terrible person, but at least I'm aware of it unlike you!
>This is supposed to make me agree with the character and not think they're shittier than the person they're calling shit when they know they're a shitty person and do nothing about it.

>>10197579
>you and I are not so different

>>10196928
>this whole post
What? Mary sue is someone who is the perfectess of perfect. Anita Blake is now a Mary sue. Her vagina grants instant power ups, and god speaks to her directly.

>>10197434
>She can be rather dry and you've chosen her at her driest
Then how am I suppose to fuck her? KY Jelly?

>>10197907
I suppose that's up to you anon.

>but christopher, the movies were good

>>10197998
Why does that looked shooped?

How concerned should I be about re-using ideas I've already used between unrelated stories?

>>10198238
How specific are the ideas? A lot of writers have themes they like writing about. It's not an issue unless you get really repetitive

>>10198055

You have lost all sense of authenticity due to excessive cooptation/commodity fetishism from and to the societal simulacrum of interactions, with social media desensitizing you to the point of being unable to discern concrete and symbolic.

>Also some of the pixels from seeing quite a few shoops in your time

>>10198264
Three or four basically identical characters, with very distinctive personalities and types of magic, repeated between two unrelated books. Also, similar but not identical settings and mythologies.

Initially, the first was a dry run for the second, but they kind of diverged. I could bring them just close enough back together that they could be alternate universes of each other, but it would take heavy editing

>>10198296
It sounds like you just have one tale you want to write down but are indecisive on the details

Rereading the first two Stormlight books in preparation of the third. Holy fuck I didn't notice the first time how bad Shallan chapters were.

>>10198322
A little, but at the same time the first story, which only has a few pages left before I'm done with the draft, has very much become its own self-contained thing. This one doesn't need to tied to the other one, and both would mutually benefit but at the same time it's too hard to completely separate them. It's like trying to disassemble a PB&J to make better food out of the components.

Has anybody checked out The Southern Reach trilogy? Just finished all three up last week, thought they were pretty good. The ambiguity at the end was too bad.

>>10198296
Sounds like Terry Brooks desu

Does anyone know the name of the sci-fi book (that may or may not have started out as fantasy) in which the world is a three-tiered platform (the second being named the Tabletop or something similar) that ultimately ends with the upper two collapsing and forming a giant lake? I want to say it had Avalon in the name, but I'm not sure. I think the main character's name was Edgar, or something that started with an E.

>>10198426
talking it over it sounds like I already know what I need to do but at the same time I don't want to

This is gonna sound stupid, but I've had this huge itch for a fantasy series about Elves, preferably the "has a kickass civilization" sort rather than the "We hump trees". Any suggestions?

>>10198452
i think theres this one series about space elves.
its 6 books i think but i cant think of the name.
sorry about that.
i wish goodreads had a tagging system so you can search for tags and filter out results more effectively.

>>10198452
Read TES lore

Why do women write such awful science fiction / fantasy books?

>>10195508
The Word For World Is Forest

Any books with demon characters in them? Preferably if they're on the "good side"

>>10198550
you're a snob and women don't waste their lives writing for the ivory tower

>>10195979
Book of the New Sun

>>10198452
>book about elves
read the silmarillion if you haven't.

>>10198452

Blood of elves

>>10198265

That actually makes sense

>>10195708
>theives

>>10198374
I'm going to read it soon anon, don't worry.

>The Red Wedding is basically the first Thanksgiving genocide
>The Others are Wendigos
>Wargs are Skinwalkers
>The Lord Commander who chased after The Other girl is pretty much the Pocahontas story

When did you realize that the Starks are Native Americans?

>>10198550
Inability to think creatively. They always need an already established base, and even then have great difficulty writing anything thats not grounded in reality.

>>10198374
I didn't think it was good at all. Too damn inconclusive and pretentious.
>oh look I'm going to show you this SPOOKY THING but never give any implications as to its nature or why it's like that
baka

>>10198677
Theres some hints I guess, but theyre barely there. I felt like it explained a lot of the small details too thoroughly though.

>>10198374
I just read Annihilation last week. I liked the weirdness and imagery of the book but not sure if I want to finish the series. DO the other 2 books actually have some more plot or is it just strange stuff than the POV character rambling on and on about random shit and being confused and thinking about studying wildlife all day? It's intersting for a few chapters but the first book was really fucking slow after a while

>tfw you have a huge back log of books to read but stick to restarting the same chinese web novel over and over again.

It's killing my own attemtps at writing.

>>10198786
Same, but I just read Star Maker over and over again. I can't complain since it's so great. I haven't been keeping track but I've read it at least 5 times now.

I'd like to write my own fantasy short stories one day, so I read the likes of Elric, Conan, Fafhrd and Gray Mouser, as well as older stuff like Jirel Of Joiry, looking at the nature of these iconic figures of sword and sorcery; their personality, their strengths and weaknesses.

Conan. A great swordsmen and physical figure. Weaknesses? All I could come up with was a lack of street smarts. He is a fish out of water in a settled society - not a schemer or cunning wit. I've yet to read him using magic either, but perhaps somebody can give an example.

Jirel Of Joiry. CL Moore's woman knight . She relies on mental fortitude and willpower in overcoming difficulties - not Conan-like superhuman martial fears, which she seems to be incapable of. Not a magic user either.

Fafhrd and Gray Mouser. These two combine Conan's martial ability in Fafhrd, with Gray Mouser's street smarts and rat-like cunning. I've yet to encounter them using magic, but they have patron wizards. Weaknesses - diminished when separated.

Moorcock's Elric is very interesting because the elements of his being are much more volatile than the others. A superb swordsman in his own right, but physically deficient without drugs - and his Stormbringer sword. There is also his personality; fatalistic, nihilistic, melancholy, but given to mood swings. In fact I wonder if Moorcock wrote him with bipolar disorder in mind.

The one iconic swordsman I lack knowledge in is Karl Wagner's Kane, so if somebody could give me a basic outline of his character I'd be grateful. Does he have Elric's depth of personality? Is he a Conan-like fighter or a more dogged Jirel, or Mouser-ish street brawler? And have I neglected to mention anybody else?

>>10198981
It may sound memey, but have you read BOTNS yet?

>>10198993
Yes - I think there's a bit of Elric about Severian, but he's a far more elusive figure, difficult to define. From my memory he isnt a particularly good swordsman, but he did extricate himself from the cave fairly well. His magic is through items/relics. It's a little while since I read it. After Stormbringer, Terminus Est is the most iconic sword I can think of.

>>10198993
>terminus est
FRENZY CHARGES A SHIT NOW

>>10198981
>conan lacks street smarts

The fuck are you talking about, he's literally a successful king and wise as fuck.

>>10198550
You don't read so every book is shit to you

>>10198904
I might check that out.

I think the biggest problem with getting over warlock of the magus world is how much potential the setting touches on.

So Little Severian was 100% burned to ash by some sort of laser beam, yes?

>>10199192

Lol okay Sir Knight, whatever you say.

What is the super smash brothers melee of fantasy literature?

>>10198588
Thanks I'll check it out!

>>10199365
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4112682/1/The-Subspace-Emissary-s-Worlds-Conquest

Longest piece of fiction ever

Will Dying Earth be stolen by normalfags the same way regular fantasy has?

>>10199405
hollywood will steal it and massmarket it by throwing out shit stories which will be advertised by "based on X authors bestelling series" which then will translate back into more shitty books to draw in the normies.

>>10199423

I think what I like about Dying Earth is that it isn't polluted by a lot of shitty books attempting to knock off Tolkien or GRRM like the way fantasy has. I don't really think Dying Earth would work remotely well in any visual medium unless it is animated.

Is it a good choice to avoid adapting Kvothe's story and instead go for a spin-off?

>Patrick Rothfuss’s bestselling contemporary fantasy trilogy The Kingkiller Chronicle is now in the works at the premium cable network with Lin-Manuel Miranda set as executive producer. The Hamilton Tony winner will compose music for the series as well. Writer-producer John Rogers (Leverage) will serve as showrunner.

>The series “will follow a pair of wandering performers on their adventures through the unique and startling world of Temerant, immersing audiences in a universe of unexpected heroes, mystical places, and terrifying dark forces.”

>The first season will be a “subversive origin story of legendary proportions set a generation before the events of the trilogy’s first novel, The Name of the Wind.”

>“Pat Rothruss’ Kingkiller series is some of the most exciting storytelling I have ever read,” Miranda said. “I could not be more thrilled to help bring the sights and sounds of his wondrous world of Temerant to the screen.”

>>10194392
The bloat in modern SFF is really out of control. A few months ago I grabbed about a dozen old SF paperbacks at a used bookstore. The longest of them was 230 pages I think, with most around 150. A few felt a bit rushed, but cutting a 200 page novel down to 150 pages is nothing compared to padding it out to 3x 500-page books.

I blame Robert Jordan.

>>10199510
I was checking out the average wordcount for published novels a few days ago just to see how fanfics stacked up and /sffg/ apparently requires about 90k+ to have even have a chance of publishing.

>>10195057
>>10195241
>>10195378
>>10195406
>>10195426
>>10195453
>>10195472
>>10195476
>>10195508
>>10195517
>>10195593
>>10195632
>>10195720
>>10195733
>>10195742
>>10195986
>>10195997
MODS

Why aren't you reding Nnedi's books?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/06/books/ya-fantasy-diverse-akata-warrior.html

>This week, Viking published “Akata Warrior,” the second book in the Akata series, a dark, sprawling epic that some fans and readers have labeled the “Nigerian Harry Potter.” The story centers on Sunny Nwazue, a Nigerian-American girl who moves to southeastern Nigeria from New York, and learns that she belongs to the secret Leopard Society, a group of people with magical abilities. An albino with pale skin and hair, Sunny is treated as an outcast by superstitious locals who call her a witch. But once she discovers her powers, she becomes friends with three other Leopard children, learning to cast spells, read Nsibidi and move between the physical world and spirit realm.

>Over the last decade or so, Ms. Okorafor has published a dozen science fiction and fantasy novels, and has emerged as one of the genre’s most innovative and visionary writers. Her stories, which are often set in West Africa, use the framework of fantasy to explore weighty social issues: racial and gender inequality, political violence, the destruction of the environment, genocide and corruption. She’s won virtually every major science fiction and fantasy award, including the Hugo, the Nebula and the World Fantasy Award, as well as the Wole Soyinka Prize for Literature in Africa.

>Now, after developing a cult following, Ms. Okorafor’s gritty, unconventional fantasies are catching on with a much larger, mainstream audience. Her novel, “Who Fears Death,” which is set in a postapocalyptic Africa, has been optioned as a series by HBO, with George R. R. Martin signed on as an executive producer. She’s writing a three-issue arc of Marvel Comics’s Black Panther series, as well as a Marvel comic based on her character Ngozi, a Nigerian teenage girl who is “bonded to the alien symbiotic organism Venom.”

>In a genre that has long been dominated by white men and Western mythological tropes, Ms. Okorafor’s stories, which feature young black girls in starring roles as superheroes and saviors of humanity, have been hailed as groundbreaking. Her fan base includes some of the genre’s biggest names, titans like Rick Riordan, Mr. Martin, Ursula K. Le Guin and Neil Gaiman.

>>10199533

>>10194239
Really enjoying the new Expanse book.

Why is the Union army so shit? If they just fought and won a really long war 10 years ago surely they'll have a fuckton of experienced officers and soldiers.

Why does Abercrombie think drill and armour are bad and that nobles have no idea what they're doing.

What do we do about Karsa Orlong's highly problematic character?

Any good bookaroos with iconic characters like this?

>>10198583
Dante Valentine Series by Lilith Saintcrow

>>10198583
Not sure it counts but, Memnoch the Devil by Anne Rice

>>10199426
>every fantasy book knocks off Tolkien and GURM
Please kys. It's obvious you don't read books if you think everything is a Tolkien and GURM copy. But you more than admitted that you only reread dying earth tropes. So you reading other books for one chapter of then dropping them is probably the best way for us to know who is knocking off whom.

>>10199517
Why would you link to it, and thus continue the conversation?

>>10199533
>she belongs to the secret Leopard Society, a group of people with magical abilities.
So Charlie Bone and the red king then?

Why aren't you reading A Practical Guide to Evil? It's the best fantasy web serial.

https://practicalguidetoevil.wordpress.com/

>>10199747
>and that nobles have no idea what they're doing.
Hi mister one percent. Are you mad that you are represented in fantasy?

>>10199947
>web serial.
Because we don't read web serials
>>>/a/ >>>/co/

>>10199953
Don't kid yourself, the thread is people full of who read Worm.

>>10199947
I've read 2 chapters and its a vastly worse malazan.

I've finished this book.
This is very good!

>>10199949
What are you on about retard?

>>10200034
>sci-fi

Has there ever been a comfier piece of sci-fi than this book? Serious question, I'm looking for something similar to this or Dinotopia, i.e. beautifully illustrated, cozy sci-fi fantasy books. Has anyone read Stewart Cowley's Terran Trade Authority books? They look pretty good but I don't know anyone who's actually read them

>>10194239
http://www.torforgeblog.com/2017/10/19/excerpt-the-will-to-battle-by-ada-palmer/

An actual first-chapter EXERT from The Will to Battle, published a few days ago!

Enjoy!

>>10200072
>tfw Bridger will never be your god
Why even live?

>>10200034
Sequel Elysium Fire out in 3 months.

The Warrior Prophet cover. Yeah, it's awful.

>>10198760
The second book kinda is more of the same thing, except for replace the wilderness with weird espionage junk. The third book has some interesting stuff going on in it, but its muddled up by a bunch of unnecessary junk (ie all the stuff with the light house keeper).

>>10200125
Why are they fighting with sticks?

>>10200171
>sticks
Looks more like they're dual wielding quarterstaves.

>>10200174
Why would you duel wield with quarterstaves?

>>10200179
>Why would you duel wield
Because fantasy faggots love it

Show me a single KOTOR player who didn't dual-wield sabers.

>>10200187
>those people who used saberstaffs

http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/25/never-satisfied-social-justice-mobs-ruining-ya-book-publishing/
>Professional literary agent Steve Laube has been in the industry for 36 years. While he says the industry has always been geared toward women as readers, since a small percentage of the male population buys and reads books, the industry has also changed in recent years.
>“The general market is aggressively pursuing LGBTQ stories for their YA books,” Laube said. “It feels like a prime importance of their publishing strategy.”
Are SJWs harming science fiction or is this just more retarded "sad puppies" alarmism?

>>10199456
>Patrick Rothfuss's bestselling contemporary fantasy trilogy
wow, Rothfuss is gaslighting people into believing Doors of Stone is already out, AND a gets his own TV series.

the man is a genius. how does he keep getting away with it?

>>10200198
This is happening in every medium, so I doubt it’s just puppies.

>>10200198
The publishing industry is 85% female. It's got nothing to do with what authors or buyers want and everything to do with what publishers want to push.
Getting anything that doesn't toe the politically correct line published these days is borderline impossible.
This isn't just happening in the publishing industry though, it's a whole lot of other mediums. It's not even being pushed by out of touch content creators, it's universally the in-between businesses that are pushing it.

Basically it's the "We want to Call of Duty audience" of the 2010's.

>>10200198
they're harming just about every medium of fiction in some way, but more because they'd rather write a list of perceived injustices against themselves rather than a decent story.

>>10200198
If you want more books to be like X, then pay money for new copies of what you want to read rather than being a disgusting pirate, buying secondhand books or using libraries, dumbass. Companies don't care about leeches.

>>10199947
>>10200009

“So, out of curiosity,” I rasped out. “Did someone just drop a godsdamned comet on us? Because that’s a bold opening move, not gonna lie.”

“No. Goblin munitions,” Black replied.

“Sharpers,” Istrid specified in a growl. “They always mess with my hearing.”

HMMMMMMM
kinda like the shapers of the moranth munitions.

>>10200198
>thefederalist.com
nuff said

>>10200125
Still better than the angry dinner plates.

>>10199947
>>10200281
>web serial
>le so witty quipathon dialogue
>first person

>>10194239
Newfag here. How does /ssfg/ feel about Metro 2033?

>>10200464
it's a book now?

>>10200464
>that mask
did someone braap

>>10199170
I don't know about that. Conan becomes a King, and is a superhuman fighter, but does he have the rat-like cunning of Gray Mouser (Conan is a capable thief in the early stories), or the strategy of Odysseus?

I was trying to find a weak link in this Mary Sue character, and his being at odds with settled societies, with their duplicity and court intrigues, was the nearest thing I could come up with, and I haven't seen him use magic either.

>>10200123

Cool! Thank you.

>>10199456
>bestselling contemporary fantasy trilogy
>trilogy
I thought trilogy meant three books.

Anyone who likes reading sci-fi for adventure and advanced technologies, don't read starmaker.
Starmaker is the scifi equivalent of Buried Giant. It's a book filled with the human condition and the philosophical implications those apply. The prose is great, and it's well constructed, but nothing happens. They just visit other planets and philosophize what it means to be human and how the world wars shook the author so much that he wrote this novel.

If you are a philosophag, then this is for you.
If you like books like roadside picnic, botns, then don't bother reading, this isn't for you.
If you liked Solaris, then this book is for you.

>>10200036
>no comprehension
>in lit
>in sffg
>doesn't understand something simply laid out using foregained knowledge
I guess that anon a few threads back was right, very few people read in these generals, only board invaders shitposting.

>>10194239
>boy is apprentice
>gets a job to take care of female prisoner
>course he falls for her
>tries to rescue her, fails, gets punished
>punishment is a external mission+ fancy sword

solid but typical start. sure it was an obvious failure from the masters, (keeping an horny teenage boy with a hot girl for ~1 year as her only contact? course he falls in love) but still good and the world is really interesting so far.

>mission starts
>goes to an inn
>dont want to pay for his own room, sleeps next to some giant freak
>friend of giant freak invites him to participate in a freak show!? also persuades random girl in 10 seconds to join him
>he wants to buy mantle first, falls in love with another random girl at shop
>somehow random guard finds him there, gives him ultimatum
>ITS TIME TO DU-DU-DU-DUEL!!!! with some random flower sword from a botanical garden? if he refuses duel, assassins kill him
>but first random girl, who should fear him to death, flirts with him
>random horserace to garden!
>random temple accident with casualties?
>no punishment
>random girl still walks along with hero, because everything went perfectly normal so far and the juicy dick from the outcast torturer who likely dies in a few hours is exactly what she wants
>some random shit happens in botanical garden
>~25% of the book left

should i bother with the rest? i really liked reading about the world and some of the conversations. but everything after the inn is just one random event after another random event. Nothing really happens, and the events come and go without any reason. The conversations are getting more boring and more abstruse per page.

>>10200583
>without any reason
its a puzzle init

>>10200072
Are you telling me that in coming weeks/months, more anons will get "the will to shill"? How long do I have to endure you retards for?

>>10200583
literally nothing about that is random brainlet

>>10200174
Quarterstaves are still sticks you cunt. Stop being pedantic.

>>10200586
>>10200594
thanks, really hoped it my impression was wrong. guess iam going to read the rest after a break.

There is any book which features a romance between the protag and the spirit which resides in his sword?
Bonus points if he is cuckolded.

>>10194239
I don't read books too much, but is Game of Thrones worth reading? I like the medieval politics, but the TV show is sort of ass, but I hear it doesn't capture the spirit of the books.

So what do you guys think?

>>10200659

Soft-core porn is the only redeeming quality of GoT. You can't see tits and ass when reading. Do yourself a favor by not reading trash like ASOIF

>>10200659
the books are tax/10.

>>10200677
>>10200679
What's some good fantasy then?
Also I know the taxes meme, but why is he made fun of it so much?

>>10200659
its good. start reading, when you enjoy it after a few hundred pages, you will probably like the other books as well. if not, stop reading.

>>10200685
Its just a stupid thing to say, the books are worth reading though, at least the first 3.

>>10200685
he said in a interview about the differences between him and tolkien(fags love to compare him to tolkjien or even dare say he is best than tolkien), he said how tolkien was a high fantasy and he is low fantasy and focus on taxes and things like this.
Then ppl began to meme his interview as him saying that tolkien was shit cause he didnt talk about taxes.
Also, if you didnt read silmarillion and LOTR yet, go.

>>10200511
He's not a mary sue, he's just competent.

>>10200700
I have read LotR but not the silmarillion.

>>10200696
>>10200689
I'll probably see if I can get them cheap somewhere then, and see if I like it.

>>10200583
so is the protag some sort of chosen one?

>>10200700
>he said how tolkien was a high fantasy and he is low fantasy and focus on taxes and things like this
He said nothing of the sort. He made a joke about mundane aspects of fantasy worlds and used Tolkien as an example of what he was talking about. He also never branded himself as "low fantasy" because, for starters, he isn't. He writes high fantasy. I have no idea how this thread has so many dipshits who do not even know what high and low fantasy are.

>>10200583
I'm reading it too. The avern is HEAVILY implied to be an alien lifeform which gets described as a flower because there is nothing like it on earth, the same way Severian mangles his description of the moon landing picture on the library. The gardens aren't actually set physical places either, and that gets brought up by Severian directly

>>10200625
>>10200625
>>10200625
Pls respond

>>10200659
The show is a super dumbed down version of the story. They cut out a lot of characters, combined the roles of the characters they cut out into characters that already existed, and removed most of the subtlety of the story. In some cases they completely reverse the character development of some characters.

Probably one of the worst-handled characters in the show is Littlefinger. They gave him too much screen time and made him far too transparent in his motives. In the books you had no idea what Littlefinger was up to until book 4, you just thought he was some kind of small-time opportunist sucking up to whoever was in power. Because Littlefinger has no scenes devoted to him in the books, you only ever see him when a point of view character interacts with him, which is pretty seldom until Sansa is spirited out of Kings Landing by LF, then you get a lot more LF scenes and it becomes apparent how dangerous he is. But in the show they have him wringing his hands and cackling with Varys in season one, making it super obvious what kind of character he is.

There is any book with a character(protag, villain or side character) who makes use of orcrux-like artefacts like lord voldmort?
Harry potter is shit but it had some nice ideas.

>>10200827
anything that features liches

>>10200835
Liches dont use orcruxs.
Orcrux while acting like phylacteries are also artecfacts, like a sword, or a ring of power.

this be good?

>>10200814
I think Jaime got butchered worse, tbf. At least LF is mostly intelligent until Dumb and Dumber ran out of book material for him.

>doesn't win or at least dominate one sword fight in the whole show, with Ned somehow being an equal swordsman to him in S1, and going downhill from there
>is a dupe for Cersei until literally the last episode of S7
>his character arc is yanked back and forth between him the book version of him gradually becoming a better person and taking his vows seriously, to going back to his old dickish self for Cersei
>the whole Jaime and Bronn's Excellent Adventure plot from Season 5

>>10199510

reading ian m banks, that nigga could cut half of his bloat out and it would be more readable. It doesnt need to be so dense for really basic shit.

>>10200574
Glad my shilling is gaining some traction, even if you didn't like it.

>>10200809
I'd love something like that (minus the cuckshit kys faggot) but I've never seen anything like it.

>>10201024
the cuckshit was a joke
I am almost certain there's some book with the sword romance but i am yet to find it.

>>10201038
Hell, I don't know any swordspirit books period.

>>10201047
we must create one them
It's a nice trope.

>>10201053
What's the personality of your ideal swordspirit? Is it the spirit of a person trapped inside a sword or is it a sword that magically developed its own soul?

>>10200625
>>10201038
zelda: skyward sword :^)

>>10201080
FI A SHIT
A FUCKING SHIT

>>10200863
Yes. I enjoy the weaving in of Byzantine history, but that is an odd taste, I recognize. Definitely worth reading.

>>10201094
yeah, I love Roman history but I'm a huge Byzaboo in particular. guess I'll check it out then.

>>10201078
There are many possibilities.
>mighty warrior from ancient times who was so stubborn that in his death it refused to die, it's soul instead being sealed in his sword
>above but comitted some atrocity, being thus cursed to never cross the river of sword, sealed in the sword, cursed to see the end of all around him
>magic sword whose properties was absorb the soul of every living being slain by it, eventually after many centuries these souls formed a single entity

>>10201038
I read one in the last year or two but I forgot its name

>>10201119
I just remembered the game Transistor. A singer's boyfriend is killed by a magic sword, trapping his spirit inside. She loses her voice and he narrates her adventure. Might be worth watching an LP.

>>10201110
You should check out Byzantium by Stephen Lawhead. It's about a group of monks who must travel to Byzantium to deliver a manuscript (The Book of Kells) to the Emperor.

>>10200625
>features a romance between the protag and the spirit which resides in his sword?
>Bonus points if he is cuckolded.
Valducan series by Seth Skorkowsky. The protags would rather their weapon than pussy, they also feel cucked if another person touches their weapon. Enjoy.

>>10200780
>I have no idea how this thread has so many dipshits who do not even know what high and low fantasy are.
They are the cunts who try to meme their way through a book conversation, but they never read the book in the first place (they don't even read), so spaghetti usually falls from somewhere on their person when they try to explain shit.

>>10201238
But the weapons have life? i mean conscience?
Also is the series good?

This evening I picked out my volume of C.L. Moore stories from the bookshelf and read another Jirel Of Joiry tale: The Dark Land, originally published in Weird Tales in 1936.

Here, the redhaired warrior-noble lies on her death-bed after a battle, when she is suddenly transported to a magical realm of darkness, whose arrogant ruler demands marriage. The story follows Jirel's rejection of his advances and escape. Although this story follows a by now routine formula for C.L Moore (i.e. Jirel enters a magical dominion and must escape it by force of will) this feels like one of the better Jirel stories, with plenty of imaginative magical spectacles (colossii, teleportation, skeletal witches, magical flames and winds) and gothic flourishes of heightened emotion. The ending feels too abrupt, however. 3/5 dinos.

>>10201269
There are fucking spirits in the weapons. Isn't that what you wanted? They don't walk to the bathroom, or form an onahole to fuck, but they are alive.
Read the first book and see if you like it.

To be honest my chart has a little of everything that you guys would want, but no one uses it.

>>10201271

Off topic but any way to get French books when you're in the US?

Is tekwar worth reading? Did shatner create something truly remarkable?

>>10201292
This reminds me, I should finish Malazan. But fuck Felisin though.

PKD invented vaporwave?!

>>10201356
I don't think he designed the 1992 edition cover.

Did anyone here have read Goblin slayer(i know, i know)?
So there is any medieval-fantasy book with a protag who makes use of batman like plans like him?

>>10201356
PKD invented drugs boi.

>>10201332
Felisin dies well before the end of the series. I think book 6. And She's totally absent from book 5.

>>10201292
I think I will make a version 3 in January. See what new books to add from last year and this year.
Library at mount char and shades of grey must be added.

What are you guys reading?

>>10201356
>brad torgersen angrily writes a blog post about how BACK IN THE DAY you could buy a book with cyberpunk statue abs on the cover and it would be about that

>>10201711
Please do anon. I use your charts. Don't let shitposters from 2 months ago put you down.

>>10201756
The Bible. I've never actually read it, believe it or not.

Did you see this catfag?

>>10201756
This. Very good story about possession. It's also short, so if you want a book to get you into the Halloween spirit that isn't by HPL, read this.

>>10201757
>imblying 1992 was BACK IN THE DAY

>>10201771
So i spent 2 hours in gimp doing this >>10201756
when there was a dragon on a pile of books already?

>>10201292
How is Theft of Swords and Promise of Blood?

>>10201781
Should I have? The only author listed that I've read anything by is Walter Jon Williams

>>10201797
>Actually googles it
>“Hrunting” by C. J. Cherryh
Oh, I see.

>I have a story in it: each of us was to choose a famous sword and write a short story based on it. Mine was Hrunting, from the Beowulf epic.
>I think it’s a pretty darned good story.
I should probably check her blog more often, but she mostly posts about remodeling.

>>10201791
I guess you're compelled to shoop some covers on, eh? :3

>>10201791
2 hours? Why did we have to wait 2 weeks then?

Great work though.

convince me to read Bakker. you guys all talk highly about this series, but all I hear about it is big black cock gay sex, alien wing-wong sex, incest, and a whole bunch of other weird shit.

i don't mind reading that stuff, but you guys make it seem like it takes up half of the series.

>>10200596
Fuck you mate.

Where is the container anon? I haven't had an update in months.

>>10201766
>2 months ago put you down.
>2 months
Try 2 years. Since the start of last year there abouts.

Anyone read Miles Cameron new additon to «the traitor son cycle»? The fall of dragons. I really enjoyed the other four books

>>10201840
Because it does. Currently there are two trilogies(quaternities).
The first one is interesting biblical fantasy with a side order of GRI and cucking.
The second is the Dong Wars, the chronicle of Sextus Bigdickus and his army of oiled slaveboys fighting the Cucklers, an alien warrior race whose religion is assrape, and whose sole purpose in life is to rape asses, where the first and only description of several important characters is their cocks, and I'm pretty sure every member of the cast, and every background character, gets sodomized at least once.

>>10201973
so just read the first trilogy then?

>>10201984
You'll probably want to read the second if you finish the first. it continues the story. But goddamn is it a drop in quality. For reference, the first book is definitely the best, if you aren't amazed by it, don't bother with the rest. As for the second part, you're probably better off reading a summary or a spoiler list. The last book is especially bad since it was originally supposed to be the conclusion of the previous book so it's half filler.

>>10201756
reading codex allera. just finished the first book and it was alright. about to crack open book 2.

>>10201973
You made me choke on my food.

>>10194634
More like
>(SCI-FI FANTASY AUTHOR) RELEASED ANOTHER BOOK THAT ISN'T (BOOK THAT PEOPLE CARE ABOUT)
Seriously, every fucking series I'm reading has been on hiatus for like five years now.

>>10195420
>25 to 100
terrible map, you should feel bad.

Yo, is the Claw of the Conciliator a drug?

>>10202182
Read Sanderson then. You only have to wait 3 years between series.

>>10202313
I'm waiting for Oathbringer, I don't know how his books are three times as long as everybody else's but he still makes actual progress on them and finishes them first.

>>10202311
It's the friends you made along the way.

Started reading and thought it was a typical grimdark fantasy with a wish-fulfillment main character. Writing kept me hooked. Things got weird as story progressed. Ending left me gutted. All around surprisingly great read.

I wish Sanderson was witty. He's so fucking bad at coming up with clever dialogue, but he tries so hard. I enjoy his writing otherwise but it makes some chapters so fucking hard to read.

>>10202327
>everybody else's but he still

That's what happens when you have God on your side.

>>10202467
fucked up my greentext. Well you get the point.

There is any book with a paladin-like protag(chosen by a god, the champion of a god)?

>>10202486
Elric Of Melnibone. His patron is a god of chaos, who opposed to gods/forces of law.

>>10202493
Already read it.

>>10202471
What is it with mormons and writing things that you wouldn't expect mormons to like?

>>10202533
>magic underwear
>holy book narrated from a hat
Dunno, seems biased toward fantasy.

>>10202545
So does Islam but they never write anything fun.

Just read Time Out of Joint.Enjoyable.

Science Fiction beats Fantasy in terms of plot, characters, prose, and cover art.

Prove me wrong.

bros I need help. I'm looking for a fantasy series of multiple books. The series has more than 12 books and I also have the page count for some of the books - 900, 620, 500, 130, 512, 800, 600, 608, 700, 700, 700, 900. There are a couple more but didn't get page count for them. The 130 page one is a prequel. Please help, need to win bet with grill.

>>10202675
whats the name of the series autist

>>10202689
That's what I'm trying to figure out

>>10202675
wheel of time?

>>10202718
WoT doesn't have anything that's as short as 130 pages does it?

>>10202594
99.9999% of sci-fi and fantasy books have absolute shit tier cover art.

>>10202722
there's a prequel called new spring, I think
but I don't know how many pages it has

and how the fuck do you know the page counts but don't know anything about the story?
that's the most bizarre thing I've ever heard.

>>10202401
>yfw he meets his daddy and you realize who’s his brother

>>10202486
Ordination

>>10201794
Thef of swords was enjoyable. Ita modern sword and sorcery book. About a thief and a do gooder swordsman.

Promise of blood was okay? Third book kinda felt rush (or am I mixing up unhewn throne and bloodsong?)

>>10202731
New Spring is about 130-150 pages yeah, but the other books he listed are too short, WoT averaged like 800 pages with the shorter ones being 600ish and the longer closer to 1100.

ANy books which features runed swords which grant powers to the wielders?
If there are girls inside the swords even better

>>10202762
hmm i only know of some litrpg drivel about a sword that gives its wielder the power to upgrade other people.
its also harem smut devil where the protag is basically a living breeding bull for angels and demons. of whom all are female obviously.
its not very good and i stopped reading like 5 chapters in.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35710461-the-builder-s-sword

>>10202773
How can you not know about the Sword of Truth series? Even if it's not that great, it's in the title.

>>10202777
well i dont like books that have half their content be bdsm.

>>10202808
The guy is literally asking for smut with magic swords though so it's obviously relevant.

Which first book got a worse sequel, Bloodsong or TNOTW? Both of them were so god damn awful holy shit.

>>10202829
Blood Song, it went from amazing 1st person coming of age to multiple POV with multiple mary sues.

NOTW's sequel wasn't good, but at least it was cozy and more of the same style.

How come good space opera as a genre no longer exists

>>10202182
The only ongoing series I'm reading is the Eschaton Sequence. I haven't even started the ASOIAF books. And it looks like I never will at this rate.

>>10202486
The Green Knight's Squire.

>>10202549
Islam has been about being the Alpha Male from day one. Most Muslims live in societies completely dominated by Islam. Mormons on the other hand have had to coexist peacefully (not necessarily by choice) with other religions for their entire existence. So they're more open minded.

Alternative answer: while both cults are foul heresies, Joseph Smith was only a dupe of the dark powers whereas Mohammed was a knowledgeable and willing consort of Satan. The difference is evident in the doctrine and behaviors of their respective followers.

New Thread
>>10203449
>>10203449
>>10203449
>>10203449

>>10200251
I must have spent forty dollars in two months buying all the clarkes, Asimovs, etc that I could've bought used or downloaded in ten seconds. I even went out of my way to try to get a new Titus Groan and it wasn't stocked anywhere at all.

The truth is that we don't matter, not one of us does. It's an uphill fight and you might as well buy it used when you can. The tastemakers decide what 90% of the market wants, and a few stodgy hipsters on /lit/ looking for 1950s shit a sri lankan picture plank user recommended to them will change nothing.

>>10202401
Good book. Hadn't heard much about it. Picked it up on a whim. There were a few times, particularly toward the end, when it made me feel uneasy. I can't really describe it. It's not disgusting or scary. Just kind of ... offputting.