/lit/ - Literature

>>10162691

Is Roose Bolton sacrificing Frey kids to The Great Other or just The Others in general? I'm curious where he is going with his arc and with his alliance with Walder Frey. Seems like he's just using them to gain otherworldly powers like possibly immortality.

>>10162693
All Lord Frey wants a seat at the big boys table, and to feel important and clever. Tywin and Roose were using him as a scapegoat so that the negative PR from the Red Wedding didn't backfire on them. They don't give a shit about him beyond that.

Also, I don't know if you're only drawing from the show, but Walder Frey has a bunch of trueborn sons and a lot of bastard ones too. Two of them hang out around Winterfell for a while in the second book iirc.

So, I'm pretty sure I'm going to hell for enjoying this book. My feminist heart wants to condemn everything about it. But damn it, it's actually really good in spite of everything.

Felix is a sad little man with a sad little super power, the ability to upgrade anything he owns. When he accidentally buys himself a slave, he discovers that this applies to other people as well. So he goes on a slave buying binge. WTH? A book that aims to make the idea of slavery a fun and silly plot device? Slaves that are magically bound to him? Slaves that happen to be attractive women?

Is it supposed to make it better that as Felix and his slaves grow their business, it is the women who take over the building and operation of the company? That they are treated well and that supposedly they are getting far more out of the arrangement than they are giving up? What a load of bull, but that's what the story tries to convey. Okay, it's fantasy, and Felix can magnify their super powers, give them new ones, heal them, and more. So what? That doesn't make the concept of slavery okay.

Then there's the cannibalism angle. Oh no, that's not a major plot point. It's just what they do with the remains of their enemies. Toss them in the sausage maker. No one is forced to eat the sausage. It's all voluntary. So I guess that's supposed to be okay too?

What makes me angriest about this book... is that it's a really fun read. It's good. It shouldn't be good.

>>10162763
god damn it i read that review too.
some people are so delusional its not even funny anymore.
these kinds of people are currently in positions of power. god damn it. not to mention its the best god damn book i read in ages.

What's the last book by a non-english author you've read and enjoyed?

>>10162804
roadside picnic.

>>10162727
>>10162741
Fuck off to your containment general you faggot.

>>10162763
deffo reading this tome now

>>10162763
That only wants me to read the book more.

>Magic realism is fantasy written by people who speak Spanish

Was he right?

>Mfw The Others or Children built The Wall
>Mfw Cold Hands is a semi-perfect version of what The Children or The Others want
>Mfw Wights aren't zombies but are people without souls
>Mfw The Children are going to use Bran's ability to warg to take over The Others and use their body to house all the souls of those in the weirwood to achieve immortality

>>10162817
>>10162813
feminists got all hissy about william d arand because of the otherlife books where he literally gives mc a harem of women + 3 goddesses who all constantly lust after his dick.
told them to fuck off.
while the first book series is not that good and mostly just more of the same if you read any "trapped in vidya" super sales is fucking great.
i recommend the audiobook too. its fantastically voiced.

>>10162804
Sffg: Solaris
Non-sffg: The three arched bridge

I'm writing a novel set in futuristic Berlin following a proxy war. The city is in a state of de jure autonomy and it features three main characters:

>Konstantin, member of the city's secret police. Pragmatist but also ruthless, risks his life when he deflects off the agency after discovering a plot that most of them were left out of.

>Theodore, influential person within the state who actually tries to "usurp" the leadership of the agency. His sense of justice often contradicts his moral compass.

>Wilhelm, leader of the NSPK, a resistance group whose goal is to "smash" the state.

The bulk of the novel's plot is the two groups trying to outsmart and outmaneuver eachother while Konstantin has the role of a trump card

>>10162839
>told them to fuck off.
Where did he do that?

>>10162811
Got the 3 Wolfe Moon pic anon?

>>10162846
twitter i think. its been a while he didnt actually tell them to fuck off but refused to change his books in a kind of rude way.

>>10162839
>otherlife
>he literally gives mc a harem of women + 3 goddesses who all constantly lust after his dick
this sounds like complete shit

I just finished the second book of the south from the Black Company, and I must say both of them were pretty weak compared to the original trilogy

Do the books of the glittering stone get any better?

>>10162874
make a post about it on goodreads

>>10162874
its not complete shit but its err more of the same as any other litrpg.
after the series he admited it wasnt quite as good as he liked and he promised to change. which turned out is true because super sales is actually really good. and the litrpg elements are very minor and grouped up in one spot rather than coming up constantly.
you should skip the otherlife books but i honestly hope you give super sales a try. its honestly really good and the audiobook is fantastic its like the narrator actually gives a crap and puts in effort. it turned out really well.

>>10162834
Instrumentality?

>Overlook Press
>Bakker's latest book full of overlooked typos
lyl

>>10162910

I think George is going for an instrumentality ending but I think that's what The Children/The Others are trying to do, either preserve their culture through immortality or gain an unstoppable army and get revenge on the humans and first men ancestors for how they were treated. The Drowned God ritual probably has some connection to The Children and makes it easier for them to gain a host for a soul trapped in a Weirdwood.

>Who are your top 3 characters and why?

'Dandelion' from Witcher series, since he is the rare kind of sidekick that is not actually a total derp.

'Lopin' from 'Letopisy Vukogvazdské družiny' ... I highly doubt anyone here would know him, ... but if you do I'm pretty sure he is on your list. His inner growth throughout the story is magnificent and his punchlines are just awesome.

If Lovecraft counts as a sci-fi or fantasy than Nyarlathotep is my last pick. Mysterious, majestic and unpredictable. That's the spice.

>What makes a good character in your eyes?

The ability to surprise/astonish me.

Can anyone rec books like Dark Souls/Bloodborne? not saying this as a vidya fag. There's just something very serene about a protagonists that hardly say anything braving apocalyptic lands and slaying monsters ten times their size. Also lore that isn't fully explained and very mysterious so that the reader draws his own conclusions and doesn't get fed information.

>>10163301
Book of the New Sun
Pedro Paramo
The Night Land, a Story Retold

If felix can give abilities, why doesn't he give some slave the ability he has, so the slave could boost his stats? Or upgrade his ability so he could upgrade himself?

Regular old physicist here.

>The gravity force will not be "toward the middle of the ring's thickness" but toward the center (hole) of the ring.
Come on man, it's rotating. In the habitable middle region the centrifugal force would cancel out the radial gravitational component.

> because you would need something to counter the force every time it changes direction.
Gravity of the disk.

>Toward the outside of the ring, the rays would penetrate at a very low angle... This would make the atmosphere absorb most of the heat
That is a presumption that the star's oscillation amplitude is relatively small.

>tens of thousands
Actually much much more. The disk has a higher mass than the star itself, several times more. Everything is physically possible but it's nonetheless ridiculous because the amount of energy it would take to transmute several neighboring stars completely into heavier elements and then get them spinning around a small star like this.

>>10161230
Regular old physicist here.

>The gravity force will not be "toward the middle of the ring's thickness" but toward the center (hole) of the ring.
Come on man, it's rotating. In the habitable middle region the centrifugal force would cancel out the radial gravitational component.

> because you would need something to counter the force every time it changes direction.
Gravity of the disk.

>Toward the outside of the ring, the rays would penetrate at a very low angle... This would make the atmosphere absorb most of the heat
That is a presumption that the star's oscillation amplitude is relatively small.

>tens of thousands
Actually much much more. The disk has a higher mass than the star itself, several times more. Everything is physically possible but it's nonetheless ridiculous because the amount of energy it would take to transmute several neighboring stars completely into heavier elements and then get them spinning around a small star like this.

Excerpt from Moorcock's When The Gods Laugh, 1961
---

Something moved, slowly, menacingly in the clinging whiteness. Elric’s right hand whipped over to his left side and grasped the hilt of Stormbringer.

The blade shrieked out of its scabbard, a black fire gleaming along its length and alien power flowing from it into Elric’s arm and through his body. A weird, unholy light leapt into Elric’s crimson eyes and his mouth was wrenched into a hideous grin as he forced the frightened horse further into the skulking mist.

“Arioch, Lord of the Seven Darks, be with me now!” Elric yelled as he made out the shifting shape ahead of him. It was white, like the mist, yet somehow darker. It stretched high above Elric’s head. It was nearly ten feet tall and almost as broad. But it was still only an outline, seeming to have no face or limbs—only movement: darting, malevolent movement! But Arioch, his patron god, chose not to hear.

Elric could feel his horse’s great heart beating between his legs as the beast plunged forward under its rider’s iron control. Shaarilla was screaming something behind him, but he could not hear the words. Elric hacked at the white shape, but his sword met only mist and it howled angrily. The fear-crazed horse would go no further and Elric was forced to dismount.

“Keep hold of the steed,” he shouted behind him to Shaarilla and moved on light feet towards the darting shape which hovered ahead of him, blocking his path.

Now he could make out some of its saliencies. Two eyes, the colour of thin, yellow wine, were set high in the thing’s body, though it had no separate head. A mouthing, obscene slit, filled with fangs, lay just beneath the eyes. It had no nose or ears that Elric could see. Four appendages sprang from its upper parts and its lower body slithered along the ground, unsupported by any limbs. Elric’s eyes ached as he looked at it. It was incredibly disgusting to behold and its amorphous body gave off a stench of death and decay. Fighting down his fear, the albino inched forward warily, his sword held high to parry any thrust the thing might make with its arms. Elric recognized it from a description in one of his grimoires. It was a Mist Giant—possibly the only Mist Giant, Bellbane. Even the wisest wizards were uncertain how many existed—one or many. It was a ghoul of the swamp-lands which fed off the souls and the blood of men and beasts. But the Marshes of this Mist were far to the east of Bellbane’s reputed haunts.

Elric ceased to wonder why so few animals inhabited that stretch of the swamp. Overhead the sky was beginning to darken.

>>10162763
I felt the same way, the voice actor, Jeff Hays, fucking hard carried that shit though. A lesser voice actor and I'd have rated it a 10/100ish instead of like a 45/100.

>>10163653
Why I posted this, to show off Moorcock and Elric's strongest and most fun qualities: the anime-esque magic sword porn, the god-invoking pomp, the distinctive image of Elric, the fast-paced, direct and taut style of prose - which makes me feel like these stories could have been written in the 90s and 2000s.

All of the political allegories and existentialism is another matter.

>dustbringers, releasers

the lamest fucking names ever thought up for what is the most generic of flashy powers.

>>10163653
CAShill, is that you?

>>10163722
Yes. Elric's Melnibone/Immyr is a lot like CAS's Zothique in its decadence and cruelty, refined pleasure-seeking, slavery and tortures, but other than that they're very different authors. Well, I can't only read Clark Ashton Smith, but I still want to polish off all the Zothique stories before the end of the month.

Is Arthur Machen underrated? I see him praised by writers and other creatives but among readers he seems to rarely get mentioned along with Lovecraft, Chambers, Poe, Borges, CAS, Bierce, etc

>>10163787
I found his Penguin collection diverse. Some Conan Doyle esque stories with intercolutors and learned men discussing spooky things, then some WW1 propaganda stories and tall tales, then the White People which is a beguiling Virginia Woolfe-like stream-of-consciousness story that is insidiously creepy. He can write better than Hope Hodgeson but has not the degree of imagination - preferring to use folklore. If you like British folk tales you'll love him.

>>10162691
I powered through - more like burned through - Starship Troopers and found myself loving it despite disagreeing with its politics completely. It's gotta be the authentic style of a man who has seen both hard training and combat, loving and hating both.

I'm afraid to watch the film now though. I remember it quite clearly and I believe that satire aside it's pretty true to the style of the book. Should I rewatch it?

>>10163954
>It's gotta be the authentic style of a man who has seen both hard training and combat, loving and hating both.
Heinlein has seen neither

He was a libtard polygamist dipshit

post itt if you fell for this shitty meme

>>10164002
>WOMAN AUTHOR

>>10163954
The movie is at the very least entertaining and somewhat funny.

Nobody gives a fuck about your opinion stormnigger.

>>10164002
>womameme

>>10164002
Is it really bad? I was sort of interested because it won some awards, but it looked a bit generic with "muh super speshul but universally despised mc" and "muh castes"

>>10164007
>medic

Top kek

>>10164040
Not bad but generic as all fuck. You won't remember shit about it. I can't even remember what the MC's name was.

is metro 2033 realy worth $18 for mere entertainment value? it's not even past 500 pages.

I read the first two Dune books. I've heard the third is good and everything is bad after that, especially the stuff written by Herbert's son. Is this true?

>>10164040
>I was sort of interested because it won some awards
Avoid all modern books have won Hugos.

>>10164129
I'd just pick up 10-15 paperbacks for that price.

>>10164136
I've paused reading Messiah to read Book of the New Sun myself, but yes. Brian takes the Butlerian Jihad and absolutely fucking ruins it. Just takes a big, fat, slimy shit all over it and keeps pumping out those craps. He had to make prequels to explain his sequels which are another fat turd all over the message of Dune.

>>10164137
Strange&Norrell and Spin are good. Ender's game won too and that was fucking shit. Then there's Gaiman and fucking Rowling winning. And Scalzi for Red Shirts which is putrid garbage. It's hit or miss.

>>10164136
You absolutely have to read God Emperor. It's fucking bizarre and probably my favorite Dune novel barring the first one. Children of Dune can be a slot but it's worth it to get to the 4th book.
The direct sequels written by Herbert's son and the stars wars author are awful. The other spinoff books range from mediocre to good. The Road to Dune is definitely worth a read.

>>10162804
The Ring

>>10162804
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea

>>10164177
>Strange&Norrell

>Womameme author

>>10162804
No Longer Human

>>10164177
Card, Gaiaman and Scalzi are all fucking shit

>>10164344
You have some fucking shit taste.

What is the most mindfuckey sci-fi book you have ever read /lit/?

inb4 blindsight

>>10164393
ubik

>>10164387
Gayman* but yes, that was my point. I quite liked Old Man's War but the sequels were shit.

>>10164387
Anansi's Boys is great muh man.

>>10164393
Ubik
5th head of Cerberus

>>10164389
He's the autist that admitted in some thread a few days back that he hasn't written one word since February, doesn't have the energy to read one chapter of anything and just chronically masturbates and shitposts here.

>>10164434
I'm pretty sure that he's the guy who keeps posting the blindsight pic with ....wow after it.

>>10164434
No I'm not
You think there's only one person on the planet who thinks female authors are garbage?

>>10164443
Slit your wrists

>>10164443
Oh I'm sure there are plenty of losers around and that the cover of anonimity makes you especially bold. Just know that you are a faggot and no one will ever take you seriously, incel.

>>10164443
>No I'm not
Yes you are shitposter kun

>>10164451
>>10164456
>>10164459
You know if you want to drool over roasties and whiteknight them constantly you can just go to reddit right?

>>10164477
With your amount of reddit spacing cancer shit I can imagine that you just came from that shithole yourself.

There you go buddy, the incel comes right out.

>>>r/incels/
>>>/r9k/
>>>permavirginity

>>10164480
What reddit spacing you idiot?

>>10164487
Read over your original post you dyslexic retard.

>>10164488
Oh shit, separating the quote and my own greentext, what a reddit

>>10164492
Nice damage control you fucking newfag.

>>10164488
Stop feeding the faggot.

>>10164497
If you're calling someone a newfag for "reddit spacing", then you're the newfag here

>>10164506
>People should stop bullying me in my reddit spacespace mummy
Time to change your diapers honey.

>spacespace

>>10164515
>safesafe

>>10164426
The first three were good but I've got a soft spot in my heart for colonization stories.

Fuzzy Nation was a decent pastiche of a late 50s first encounter story as I recall. Redshirts was basically "The gang decides to win a Hugo" and wastes it's entire premise, the terrible anime ReCreators "anime is real and it's pissed about it" did it better.

>>10164519
>colonization stories

How's the 3 colours of Mard trilogy?

Pullman's book is out on mobilism
https://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?f=1295&t=2279928&hilit=La+Belle+Sauvage
https://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?f=1295&t=2279928&hilit=La+Belle+Sauvage
https://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?f=1295&t=2279928&hilit=La+Belle+Sauvage

>young adult
>female protag

>>10164592
YA is ideal for you if you find actual books too difficult to comprehend.

Asking again in this thread, where do I go to get a rewrite of the night land?

Lib gen is empty.

>>10164393
Source?

>>10164793
READ THE FUGGING IMAGE. Literally the first site I mentioned.

>>10163558

>Come on man, it's rotating. In the habitable middle region the centrifugal force would cancel out the radial gravitational component.
Did you just (correctly) assume my gender, friend?
I admit I was thinking about a ring rotating with the same angular velocity than earth, but with a higher velocity you're absolutely right

>Gravity of the disk.
True, but:
>That is a presumption that the star's oscillation amplitude is relatively small.
the amplitude of the oscillations would have to be minimal if the period must be around 1 day.

>Everything is physically possible but it's nonetheless ridiculous because the amount of energy it would take to transmute several neighboring stars completely into heavier elements and then get them spinning around a small star like this.
Imo the main point is that it would be unstable anyway.

>>10162804
>non-english
I assume you mean non english speaking? That would be Hard to be a God.

>>10162804
Gagner la Guerre, Jean-Philippe Jaworski
If you're proficient in french, I really recommend it. GRI approved, too.
No idea why it hasn't been translated into english yet.

>>10163591
See >>10164856

>>10164480
dont forget shazbowl.
shazbowl was responsible for doubling traffic of 4chan. especially /v/.
didnt help that it was officially facilitated and commentated on by the developers.

>>10164040
The Hundred thousand Kingdoms is one of the very few books I didn't finish.

>Is it really bad?
Yeah she's bad, but come on. At least give her human attributes.

>>10164585
Could you post a link?

>>10164913
As anons have said again and again, Broken Earth and Dreamblood 1 are her books worth reading.

Hundred Kingdoms is like all the distilled and most concentrated version of shounen anime cliches and power levels to ever walk this earth including futa shit, /ss/ etc.

The second book of the Broken Earth trilogy is probably the best shit she has written so far. The third book is technically good but quite unimaginative and something like an Evangelion end would have suited it better.

TBE is still really good and worth reading for Nassun and Schaffa.

>>10164918
jdownloader 2 beta to avoid having to click through the links.
It ain't hard.

>>10164929
AUDIOBOOK
WHEN

>>10164506
>>>/r/t_D you fucking mongrel. stop shitting the thread up

>>10164931
RIP audiobook anon.
iirc Overdrive goes by amazon times so there's 40 libraries (a lot of libraries) with at least one copy of the audiobook currently, it's just whether or not there's any people at these libraries who can be bothered/know how to rip them.

>>10164943
welp

>>10164950
It will probably be up on mobilism tomorrow when all the americans wake up.

>>10164793
But it is on lib gen. Are you not using the search categories right or can't spell, it's under fiction.

>>10164910
Fuck that was truly a glorious moment, regardless of the faggotry that followed.

>>10164393
The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch
Permutation City
BotNS

>>10164393
It's fucking Blindsight

I just finished reading pic related. Holy fuck this is some fun reading, is the rest of his stuff this good?

>>10165033
I don't like Hamilton that much personally, but his style is pretty consistent. Definitely give the Night's Dawn books a read.

>>10164954
Yeah I was retarded, found it.

Danke anon.

>Gandalf himself took a hand. Picking up a faggot he held it aloft for a moment, and then with a word of command, naur an edraith ammen! he thrust the end of his staff into the midst of it.
>The fire burned low, and the last faggot was thrown on.

>>10165272
Oh Avatar-kun, you know me so well.

>>10165272
Underrated post

>>10164393
What's going on in this picture? Dumped brides?

>>10165378
Looks like a page from Barlowe's Inferno.

Damn I really should have posted my PKD thread here. Reading The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch right now

>>10165272
>doesn't know thw old meaning for gay, fag, and faggot
>doesn't know current day homosexual corrupted and annexed 3 words for their own use

>>10165431
Yeaaaaaah, I'm pretty sure >>10165272 knows that, hence the avatar implying the joke.

Btw gays didn't corrupt or annex these words. They weren't the ones using them in the first place. What they did was start owning these words to remove their insulting connotation, which is absolutely fair game.

>>10165466
>What they did was start owning these words to remove their insulting connotation, which is absolutely fair game.
So to remove racism, I must own qt white girls?

>>10164926
>futa shit, /ss/
Fuck, I dropped the first one pretty early. How much you talking?

Read the first Malazan book and now I'm 100 pages into this.

When does this get good? Everything's been pretty mediocre so far

>>10165814
The 900 year old shota tries to seduce the MC and gets rejected because MC feels like a paedo. NKJ is probably a proper animu degenerate, I'm sure thay they fucked offscreen.

>>10165881
*that

>>10165853
1 - ok
2,3,4 - great
5-10 - dear god make it stoooooooooopppp

Are you happy more and more queer-inclusive fantasy books are coming out?

...wow

>>10165985
wew...

>>10165984
what do you think lad?
use your head, /lit/ is and always has been an alt-right board

>>10165984
>18 books
>less than half by relatively known authors
it's a veritable flood of gayness

>>10165985
Is this pro- or ant- BS?

>>10165158
Eh I personally enjoyed the commonwealth saga immensely (maybe because the idea of interstellar train travel tickles me silly) but nights dawn is one of the few books I have ever not finished simply because it bored me unfortunately I cant say exactly what bored me as it has been some time.

>>10165984
>people who spend time and energy seeking out and posting about things to be mad about

New crackpot Ice and Fire theory. Cranogmen are the result of the marriage pact between The Children of the Forest and First Men. Jojen paste theory is also real and The Children eat the babies Craster sends them after harvesting their souls to strengthen the Weirwood network.

>>10166125
Craster doesn't send the Children any children you idiot.

Any decent recent military sci-fi series?

>>10166164

I stand corrected he sends the kids to The Others, The Others probably send the kids to the children, COTF then get sustenance so they can strengthen their network and powers.

Is it good? Or a meme?

>>10166275
I loved it but I've been told I have shit taste on here before

>>10166281
Did you like Name of the Wind?

>>10162793
>some people are so delusional

Oh yeah, sexually abusing women, keeping women as slaves, taking away their powers.
Sure, perfectly acceptable and should be the norm right?

Fucking asshole

>>10164393
Since you posted Barlowe, have you ever tired God's Demon?

>>10166320
of course.
havent you gotten your recent orders from the patriarchy yet?

>>10166320
>Oh yeah, sexually abusing women, keeping women as slaves, taking away their powers.
>Sure, perfectly acceptable and should be the norm right?
A lot of western leaders seem to think so, what with the amount of Islamic refugees/immigrants they are letting in

>>10166343
>>10166350
Fuck you

>>10166357
Why fuck me? I agree with you, you dolt. I'm against Islamism too

>>10166357
hey man were against dune coons too.
dont be like that.

>>10166350
Taking them in and showing them the wonders of free cable and porn, bikinis and guns.

Acquisition of raw material by assimilation. Someone has to work the burger joints when fat white neets think they're too good for that and complain about not having a job.

>>10166357
actually society would be a lot better with legal slavery.
not to mention currently saudi arabia and china alone are responsible for over 70% of modern slavery.
the rest is africa because theres nothing better they like than enslaving each other.

>>10166622
Society wouldnt be better from your perspective if you were a slave

>>10166637
but being a slave is my fetish.
i live to serve.

>>10166275
It's average and quite boring to read.

>>10162691
Guys, I got one audible credit to buy a book with. What should I get? Please only recommend things with a good narrator, I had to return the last one I bought cause the narration was shit.

>>10166760
what do you like anon?

>>10166793
So far the audio books I’ve listened to and liked are Mistborn, Thrawn, Hyperion, Lions of Al Russan, and Snow Crash. I like just about anything but I’m looking for something like an adventure or quest with a party of characters, or just a book filled with a lot of interesting ideas like Dune.

>>10166760
The Expanse.

>>10166799
so its fairly diverse. metal boxes is pretty decent i liked the audiobook a lot.
if you like urban fantasy the dreseden files are read by james marsters who was spike and buffy the vampire slayer.
also apparently reading from the thread this super hero book seems to have a good narration ive yet to listen to it though, its on my list but for now i wanna finish the kings dark tidings.

>>10166852
>metal boxes
Is this an SFFG meme, or do people really like that juvenile parody of a sci-fi book?

>>10166892
i honestly like it.
its kind of a mix of starship troopers and warhammer 40k but the opposite of serious.

>>10166899
Different folks I guess, I couldn't stand it, the MC is one of the worst Mary Sues I've ever witnessed outside of fanfic, I mean, he combines most dreadful aspects of Wesley Crusher with romance in the best traditions of 12 y.o. dreams. It would be better named "Adults Are Useless, The Book".

>>10166918
i agree with that, yes. however it for me it was nice change from all the grim dark and serious novels that tend to be the overwhelming majority.
also adults really are just grown up kids.
trust me i work in software engineering. i know first hand that adults are useless.

What bookaroos can I read do help me get over pic related?

>>10166991
pride and prejudice.
mein kampf.
in my own shadow of the jew.

>>10166991
>jennifer lien
hmm

>>10165853
>Doesn't like Deadhouse Gates
That's the high point of the story, so just stop reading.

>>10167149
But I'm only 120 pages in. It gets better right?

>>10166065
>Is this pro- or ant- BS?
It's some anon who didn't like the book trying to start a shitpost in the hopes that other anons will latch onto it and start spamming the shitpost every thread. This eventually leads to everyone not liking Blindsight due to groupthink. Happens all the time on boards like /a/ and /tv/.

>>10167156
>It gets better right?
I guess? The Chain of Dogs arc gets more interesting as the books goes on, but the series as a whole takes a huge drop after Deadhouse gates, so if you don't already like the books then don't waste your time.

>>10167089
>in my own shadow of the jew.
elaborate

Bazaar Of The Bizarre (1963) seems to be a highly rated Fafhrd and Gray Mouser story, but I couldn't get into it. It milks its central premise and theme, the illusory nature of a trinket shop in Lankhmar whose wares are extremely interesting to some, and junk to others; and has plenty of imaginative scenes and comic moments. But I found it all too whimsical and comic for my taste, like a Terry Pratchett story, and Leiber seems to be writing in long fluid sentences than previously here, as if it was written by dictation.

I preferred more straightforward swashbucklers like Seven Black Monks, The Howling Tower, The Sunken Land; by comparison this one gets a lukewarm 2.5/5 dinosaurs.

>>10167170
google.
might need to dig around a bit.
that book is harder to find than the real copy of mein kampf.

>>10167165
b-but I was told that if you can past the drag that is the first book (which it was, kinda) then you're in for a wild ride for the rest of the books!

>>10166760
Anything done by Tim Gerard Reynalds. I'd personally suck that mans dick.

He's done:
Ririya Chronicles
Age of Myth
Red Rising
Cycle of Arawrn (this is pretty mediocre though)

Or you could try listening to Kingkiller Chronicles, and bitch about the 3rd book not out yet.

>>10167218
>you're in for a wild ride for the rest of the books!
lol

>>10167271
why lol :(

>>10166019
imagine being this delusional

sage

>>10167326
reported for announcing ur sage

>>10167474
>ur

>>10167507
ure're

>>10165984
Thanks for giving me a list of books that I must avoid. Mainly:
>Craft Sequence
Read book one. Will not continue the series

>The Meme itself's Author Adam Robert
Not touching any of his books now.

>>10166991
>get over pic related

>>10167174
>dino as ratings anon is back

why thanks for recommeding all this friendzonecore shit /lit/

The Wise Man's Fear

>I have known her longer, my smile said. True, you have been inside the circle of her arms, tasted the wetness between her legs, felt the soft warmth of her bosom, and that is something I have never had. But there is a part of her that is only for me. You cannot touch it, no matter how hard you might try. And after she has left you I will still be here, making her laugh. My light shining in her. I will still be here long after she has forgotten your name.
>There were more than a few. She went through them like a pen through wet paper. She left them, disappointed. Or, frustrated, they abandoned her, leaving her heartsore, moved to sadness but never as far as tears. -


The Republic of Thieves

>"“So, has it… well, how long has it been, for you? Since, you know—”
>“You already know the answer,” said Locke. “Very precisely. Think about the day you left. Go back two nights from that, and there you have it.”
>“Not even once?”
“>I guess it’s fucking ridiculous, isn’t it? But no. I tried. I tried to enlist some help. One of the resident cherry tops at the Guilded Lilies.
>Turns out a redhead’s just not a redhead if she’s not, you know, twice as smart as I am and three times as infuriating.”
>“I suppose I should tell you… it hasn’t been the same way with me these past few years. For several reasons. I had some comfort from it, once or twice.” She reached out and touched his arm, not softly, as though she were afraid he might suddenly decide to be elsewhere. “And the rest of the time, it was to empty some pockets. Or a vault. You know.”

>>10167598
At least for republic of thieves it’s because he’s some horrific magic experiment gone wrong.

>>10167607
that doesn't explain why his slutty daughter didn't stay faithful to him

>>10165984
ive never heard of any of those authors

>>10167598
>dat cover
jesus h christ

>>10167598
but /lit/ hates Rothfuss

>>10167611
Because she got kiddy diddled for having a red pucci, which is why she gets so triggered by his red hair fetish

>>10165984
The image of this writer/reader totting up the gay content of new books, always on the lookout for more.

I read gay and lesbian sex/relationships in Ursula Le Guin and Robert Silverberg books that were written in the 70s+80s. It was as an incidental passing detail, minor piece of character development or to illustrate the world within the book, a background detail. But this writer wants gayness front and centre, but outside of a romantic context? What does that even mean? It seems to me this would mean derailing otherwise engaging adventure, revenge, picaresque and travel plots with heavy handed tokenism; bear cocks and bull dykes from nowhere, constantly reminding us of their sexuality when it isn't relevant to the story.

>>10167607
>he’s some horrific magic experiment gone wrong.
He's going to turn out to be literally lelouch

>>10165984
I've heard of Leckie (Ancillary Justice), but I've never read anything she wrote. I remember de Bodard's name from some retarded drama a couple of years ago but I've never even heard of anything she actually wrote. The rest, I've no idea.

>>10165421
>Reading The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch right now
Good choice anon.

>just finished Book of the New Sun
fuck I got gene'd. what an incredible journey

>>10168043
I really enjoyed Ancillary Justice. Ancillary Sword was also pretty good. Ancillary Mercy was frustrating but I don't know how to explain why. I read one of Foz Meadows' books and it was not very good in addition to being really pandery. Gladstone's Craft Sequence books are interesting but you can smell his opinion, such as it is -- I'd still recommend checking one of them out. The order doesn't matter a huge amount..

>>10166275
its enjoyable. easy to follow yet filled with detail.

>>10168077
also can anyone tell me who apu punchau is and his relevance to the story

>>10162913
he was oblivious to the fact that his editors have apparently done nothing for him since he signed with them. he didn't realize there were errors until his rabid fans pointed them out to him, and he still decided to trust them with TUC. he's so far up his own asshole and has no perspective, so i feel his contract with OP is just rewards

>>10168077
Unironically read the sequels. Some of them aren't as good but Book of the Short Sun makes it worth it. And if you're curious pic-related is Gene's unequivocal second greatest series, though you'll need to brush up on your Roman mythology

>>10164156
have read all the original 6 Dune, the houses trilogy, the butlerian jihad trilogy, and the hunters/sandworms duology, and can attest to a very clear difference in quality between the original 6 novels and what has been released since his death.

also pretty convinced that brian herbert and kevin j anderson made up omnius being the reason why the honored matres were returning from the scattering. pretty sure whatever notes frank herbert had written for dune 7 did not include an AI from many thousands of years in the past returning for final revenge

>>10167290
i love mbotf, and would love for more people to enjoy the series like me. but i have to agree with the other guy that if you're 120 pages into deadhouse gates and not enjoying it, there's almost no hope that you'll like anything else in series.

>>10167218
Only the first Malazan book is good, the rest is downhill

Are there any good litRPG books? I've tried listening to 4 of them and they're all awful. It's like they're written by 13 year old boys for 13 year old boys. Any actually good mmo books out there?

>>10168392
Sufficiently Advanced Magic
Forging Divinity
Super Sales for Super Heroes

>>10168404
Oh, these ones aren't "trapped in game" garbage cancer.
But I am also looking for more good litrpg, that isn't stupid shit mmo trash

Fantasy and Sci-fi really are trash, huh, literally no good book to speak of.

>>10168404
>Super Sales for Super Heroes
>Warning and minor spoiler: This novel contains graphic violence, undefined relationships/partial harem, unconventional opinions/beliefs, and a hero who is as tactful as a dog at a cat show. Read at your own risk.

You better not be fugging me friend, I trust you

>>10168421
If you need more encouragement, then read this review here
>>10162763

>>10168426
This may be asking too much but do you know where I can get the audiobook torrent? audiobookbay has failed me

Anything that reads like Corruption of Champions? Or just ultra lewd fantasy, the more deviant the better

>>10168430
What?
Oh shit, I mistyped, it's on super heroes, not for.

http://audiobookbay.nl/audio-books/super-sales-on-super-heroes-william-d-arand/

Also, the audiobook is amazing, and the narrator is fantastic

>>10168439
Holy fuck, thanks man!

>>10168441
Cheers, I hope you enjoy it as much as I did

>>10167598
Denna a slut
Devi is best girl

>>10167598
When is the 3rd book coming out?

>>10167598
>recommeding
>implying
Literally the only book that gets more hate on here is The Wise Man's Fear.

>>10167615
Didn't you look like that at 13?

>>10162913
>the put that consumes all traces of consumption
this is the worst one

>>10168324
I think robots/machine intelligence being the reason for the reflux that included the Matres is pretty likely to have been Daddy Herbert's original plan. There were more hints in that direction than the other major candidate, ayyy lmaos.

The Junior/KJA execution was just retarded (by all accounts; I refuse to read their books).

>>10168765
No, but I wanted to.

There are demons even demons fear

I just finish Dune. Great read, but should I read other books? I started the second one and the quality drop make rethink about finish the Frank Herbert saga

>>10168404
>Sufficiently Advanced Magic
This fucking shill is gaining traction. Multiple anons read this shit and denounced it. Now this reddite piece of shit is holding it up as some pinnacle of game literature. He (the shill) even admitted that it's shit but he had to finish it. Now he wants people to read it.

>>10168420
So true. Now leave and read IJ for the 20th time.

>>10169055
I'm not the one you're thinking of, I just read that shit and liked it, and I'm waiting for the next book.
I recommend books I like to people because I pirate everything, and spreading word of mouth is the least I could do for authors whose books I like

>>10169071
I would rather read ready player one than insufficiently shilled magic

>>10169084
Isn't Ready Player One some stupid "trapped in a game" garbage shit?

>>10169055
I endorse this post. Sufficiently Advanced Magic is far and away the worst book I've read in 2017.

>>10169084
I've (regrettably) read both and Sufficiently Advanced Magic makes Ready Player One look like fucking Anna Karenina by comparison.

>>10168874
try the second one. if you enjoy it, repeat. drop if you dont like it. everything besides the first book is okay-tier to trash-tier.

>forging divinity
Do not read at all costs. It is terrible

>>10168350
well I bought all 10 books in a garage sale, so I'll at least finish the second book and see how that goes. The only thing that grabbed my attention was Moon's Spawn since a favorite band of mine is called Caladan Brood. But most plot events seem so forced and contrived. There's too many characters, which of course end up being Mary Sues with little depth. The world building is all right but nothing special. On the bright side, the second book is noticeably better than the first, which was pretty mediocre, so I'll continue for now

>>10168377
the first Malazan book read like a cheesy young adult novel

Is the reason biopunk is rare is due to the baseline technical knowledge you'd need to make it convincing or due to lack of interest with readers?

>>10169503
That is not how you use your key cleaner.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20439379-starship-s-mage

this any good?

>>10168259
Aou Punchau is a future(past) version of Severian.

I want a story where the protagonist is so overtaken by the burder of stopping Dark Overlord he kills himself and it ends right there.

>>10169723
The Light of Life:The Cycle of Galand

He literally becomes an undead lich for the evil overlord. That's all I'll say

>>10169084
Ready Player One was garbage. I got it free as a gift from a friend through audible.

It was nice to turn your brain off and listen to. But if you actually listen and pay attention it's fucking shit. I had a hard time not cringing at everything the main character did.

>>10169084
The problem with litrpgs is that writers thinks this gives them leave to drop references all over the place. They also like to pad their barely readable prose with huge stat sheets that achieve nothing.

Also, why are there so many gay/bisexual litrpg protagonists? Is it just for the brownie points?

>>10169909
>The problem with litrpgs
Is that they are litrpgs.


Seriously, the hell is up with this Isekai/mmo faggotry? I get it with anime - pretty pictures, "unusual" style, allows for the usual self insert protag and shit, but why the hell would you enjoy it in a book? I just don't get the appeal, it makes the world less coherent and barely adds anything in return.

>>10169980
Well yes. By definition it’s a niche genre. But even the people who write it and seem to enjoy it, don’t realize that they all write the same derivative memespouting nonsense.

>>10169992
>don’t realize that they all write the same derivative memespouting nonsense.
You sure about that?

I like milsf, for example, and I'm pretty sure most writers realise that majoirty of it is the same drivel all over again - "one ship save the galaxy", "growing up in the fleet", "Republic vs Empire" or "Good space magic vs bad space magic", cover like 8 out of 10 books in the genre, and I'm pretty sure writers know this, so do the readers. The occasional breaks in the matrix or the rare actually well crafted example of the above is like an oasis in a desert of incompetence, and you still have to read lots of mundane mediocre crap, in between them. Never the less I keep reading them because I like the tropes common to them, and occasional decent character you can find in any book no matter how meh.


Problem with litrpgs is that I just don't see why you would even read the good ones. Like what is the core appeal?

>>10170008
Don't overthink it anon.

>>10170008
The core appeal is watching a fish out of water flounder on the shore.

X trying to survive in y

Just finished Cixin Lius Three body problem trilogy, before that i finished the Fear the sky books. All together and separately they were amazing. Any recommendation for similar stuff?

>>10170227
Have you read Blindsight yet?

>>10165984
Why isn’t the upcoming red sun rising book on here? That’s even more progressive with having a gender fluid character or some such. Or is that not considered gay?

>>10170252
Will check out. Thanks.

>>10170252
Have you read Blindsight yet?

>>10170252
someone gimme a quick rundown.
i dont frequent /sffg/ enough to get the joke. also ive never read or heard about it until coming more often.

>>10170605
You seem to be new to memes in general. The proper way to learn about a meme is by using it.

>>10170650

Did i >>10170539 just get memed then?

>>10167149
I disagree. The Seven Cities stuff was always my least favorite setting. MT and RG were the highest points for me.

Maybe because Tehol and Trull were my favourite characters.

>>10165853
If you don't like it by now, it's probably not for you. Maybe DG will pick up for you though. I know some people consider it the best, though not me.

>>10170252
>>10170578
...wow

>>10170605
Someone hates blindsight, they keep posting about it, hoping to make people hate blindsight because it's posted all the time, people mostly ignore it, other than few leet kids who join in on it. End of story.

>>10170784
alrighty then guess the best thing to do is put it in my 4chanx filter.

>>10168392
Might as well just jump to japanese LNs they're not audio books but they started the genre so they do it best. I recommend infinite dendrogram personally its got an official translation.

>>10169539
I can only think of one biopunk series it was leviathan or something and had biopunk allies versus steampunk great entente

>>10170670
Not him but I read it and liked it though it gets a bit too technical at terms the story and idea were actually good I thought

>>10170008
Recommend me some milsf. I tried reading The Lost Fleet, but the writing was so bad, so bad, that I loved Old Man's War that I read afterwards.

>>10170578
I did actually, years ago. I then read the rest of Watts' oeuvre, then bought Echoprexia the day it came out.

>>10170936
Well, here are some off top of my head:

>Dread Empire's Fall
Nice character drama set after a species ruling interstellar empire dies out and former subject species try to sort out how to move on from there.

>On silver wings (Hayden's war)
A "special agent" tale about first encounter between a fledgling human civilisation and an interstellar alliance of sorts. Really like the way tech and tactics evolve book to book. Gets kida stale around book 5, gets kinda shit at 7, but early books are pretty great.

>The Terran Fleet Command Saga
Just about the most straight forward milsf I've ever read, also one of the best ones. Humanity gets picked by advanced alien empire to be their enforcers in the region, get's supplied with tech to do the job, shortly thereafter things go tits up.

If you are interested in some particular theme or narrative scenario, I could try to give you a more detailed recommendation.

>became wageslave
>biking everywhere instead of transit
>fell out of reading
>miss it now
>enjoyed botns and hyperion
>previously read lathe of heaven, fifth head of cerberus & fourth mansions

do you guys have any suggestions as to what I should pick up next?

>>10171033
Pulp era short stories, fantasies, sci-fi and Lovecraftian horror. easily fit into an hour or so of reading on an evening.

>>10171033
i too am taking the bike to work, but i was putting off listening to audiobooks while doing so because im afraid i might end up under a truck or something.

>>10171053
Any CAS stories that have a happy/okay ending? The Holiness of St. Azedarac kind of has one, but that's the only one like that I've read so far.

>>10171006
Nice, I'll check those out, thanks.

Themes I like in scifi are first contact, but I think I've almost exhausted those, not easy to find an interesting one. Then, opening of diplomatic relations is alright too. The Lost Fleet was building up to these when I dropped it, which is too bad really, you just don't find military and those together a lot. I also really like hard sci-fi, but I understand that the hardest ones will also make boring military novels aside from maybe the forever war that I still haven't built the courage to read. Colonization and megastructures are themes I look for as well. Aliens is a big plus, particularly if they are not of the hivemind category, and can be dissected, studied and spied on. Cold wars are cool too.

>>10171081
Most of his endings are bleak or have a morbid twist. The Empire Of The Necromancers has a happy ending, depending on who you're routing for, and it's one of his best stories. Ditto The Charnel God. His Averoigne stories tend to be less morbid so their endings are usually more positive.

>>10171062
maybe if my commute involved a trail or something

>>10171091
Yeah, I dropped Lost fleet too after a few books, there was a lot of promise but I felt like writer is either shit or milking the series, neither of which I'm interested in. I think books get better later on, but I can't be arsed.

With themes you specified I'd recommend Starting with Terran Fleet Command it does most of the things you want rather well, and while by no means hard it works to justify it's tech quite hard.

Some additional recommendations to consider:

>Ark Royal
Battle star Galactica'esque series that prominently features problems when trying to figure out alien specie's thinking and conduct both warfare and diplomacy with them.

>Derelict: Tomb
A horror story about a team of marines dealing with an old ship showing up that shouldn't be where it is. It's not exactly what you are interested in but it provides an interesting twist on a few themes like colonisation, alien first contact and how it all can go horribly wrong. While the ship in question is not by any means a mega structure the narrative makes it feel enormous. Again, not exactly hard-sf, but pretty close.

>Fire by Fire (Cain Riordan)
Kinda like "On silver Wings" but more focus on aliens and characterise and less on warfare. I find it a tad preachy, but that's just taste.

>Duel in the Dark(Blood on the stars)
Cold War IN SPACE! I find it grating, but again, that's just taste. Actual writing is quite good, tho fair warning I stopped reading early on because I'm exactly the wrong audience for this book.

Sadly can't think of anything when it comes to megastructures.

>>10171171
>I'd recommend Starting with Terran Fleet Command
Ok then. Thanks a lot. I actually hadn't heard about any of those, usually people just recommend the same books over and over here.

Is fantasy a meme genre since the major authors get butthurt and cry if you ask when the next book is coming out?

More Elric action, exerpt from The Singing Citadel

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Men fell on all sides, screaming more in horror than in pain as they realized what the sword had drawn from them. Four came at him with axes whistling. He sliced off one’s head, cut a deep gash in another’s midriff, lopped off an arm, and drove the blade point first into the heart of the last. Now the Tarkeshites were cheering, following after Elric and Moonglum as they cleared the sinking galley’s decks of attackers.

Howling like a wolf, Elric grabbed a rope—part of the black and golden trireme’s rigging—and swung towards the enemy’s decks.

“Follow him!” Moonglum yelled. “This is our only chance—this ship’s doomed!”

The trireme had raised decks fore and aft. On the foredeck stood the captain, splendid in scarlet and blue, his face aghast at this turn of events. He had expected to get his prize effortlessly; now it seemed he was to be the prize!

Stormbringer sang a wailing song as Elric pressed towards the foredeck, a song that was at once triumphant and ecstatic. The remaining warriors no longer rushed at him, and concentrated on Moonglum, who was leading the Tarkeshite crew, leaving Elric’s path to the captain clear.

The captain, a member of the theocracy, would be harder to vanquish than his men. As Elric moved towards him, he noted that the man’s armour had a peculiar glow to it—it had been sorcerously treated.

The captain was typical of his kind—stocky, heavily-bearded, with malicious black eyes over a strong, hooked nose. His lips were thick and red and he was smiling a little as, with axe in one hand and sword in the other, he prepared to meet Elric, who was running up the steps.

Elric gripped Stormbringer in both hands and lunged for the captain’s stomach, but the man stepped sideways and parried with his sword, swinging the axe left-handed at Elric’s unprotected head. The albino had to sway to one side, staggered, and fell to the deck, rolling as the broadsword thudded into the deck, just missing his shoulder. Stormbringer seemed to rise of its own accord to block a further axe blow and then chopped upwards to shear off the head near the handle. The captain cursed and discarded the handle, gripped his broadsword in both hands and raised it. Again Stormbringer acted a fraction sooner than Elric’s own reactions. He drove the blade up towards the man’s heart. The magic-treated armour stopped it for a second; but then Stormbringer shrilled a chilling, wailing song, shuddered as if summoning more strength, slipped on the armour again. And then the magic armour split like a nutshell, leaving Elric’s opponent bare-chested, his arms still raised for the strike. His eyes widened. He backed away, his sword forgotten, his gaze fixed on the evil runeblade as it struck him under the breastbone and drove in. He grimaced, whimpered, and dropped his sword, clutching instead at the blade, which was sucking out his soul.

>>10169521
>There's too many characters
>complaining about "too many characters" and you're only on book 2
Just give up right now, you're not gonna make it.

>>10170936
I like the Armada wars

>>10171340
It's not that there are too many or me to keep track of, that's not it at all. It's that there are so many that it inevitably results in most being shallow and forgettable mary sues, adding little to the story. There are many characters for no real reason

>>10170936
Yeah Lost Fleet isn't very good in retrospect. Good space battles but everything else is blah. The spinoff sequels about some Syndicate Worlds rebels have some hilarious, amazingly bad romance in them.

Recommendations, I should really make a chart or something:

David Drake, the Hammer's Slammers series especially, but also the Lt. Leary series.

Joel Shepherd's Spiral Wars series is a good milSF/adventure mix about the crew of a space battleship going on the run after a conspiracy kills their captain, but then they also get involved in a even bigger conspiracy. He also did another series about a android super soldier that runs away and ends up working for a SWAT team.

Ninefox Gambit by Yoon Ha Lee. A promising young military officer fucks up so her superiors shove the ghost of a mass-murdering general into her head to take a undefeatable star fortress. Somewhat Warhammer 40k in tone.

Glen Cook's The Dragon Never Sleeps and Passage At Arms. He's better known for Garret P.I. and The Black Company, but The Dragon Never Sleeps is a good story about immortal legions of space peacekeepers, and Passage at Arms is a great Das Boot style story.

Linda Nagata's The Red is a good series about near-near future cyborg soldiers in power armor. Starts out kinda generic but quickly takes a Metal Gear Solid-esque turn.

Jamie Sawyer's Lazarus Wars stuff is good. Space marines who use remotely operated clone bodies versus the Zerg, but typically it turns out other humans are the bigger threat. Very camp and action packed with death and betrayal around every corner, but they don't get boring.

The Frontlines series by Marko Kloos is probably one of the better self-published hooah space marines series out there right now.

>book has 3 opening quotes, 1 dedication and 4 forewords
Jesus fucking christ control yourself authors

Any good fantasy where one of the major villains gets redeemed and joins the good guys? Bonus points if the mc and the villain are of opposite sex and fuck and/or marry.

>>10171289
>“Follow him!” Moonglum yelled. “This is our only chance—this ship’s doomed!”
That contraction is jarring.

>>10171554
Dagger and Coin, kind of. The villain doesn't get 'redeemed' exactly, more redirected to fight the bad guys. He and the main character (or the closest thing to a main character, anyway) do fuck though.

>>10171576
I love Geder as a villain but I don't think that he fits anon's description. Geder made Dagger and Coin fucking great though

>>10171554
Also need this

>>10171554
The wozard of earthsea

I want a book where the protagonist is nearly silent.

What's the best fantasy novel that is actually a science fiction? Bonus points if it's relatively hard science fiction.

>>10171585
Yeah, he's pretty unique as far as villains go. A few of his chapters are pretty cringey, though.

>>10171554
Nevernight
MC gets betrayed and her love interest killed by a comrade but later falls in love with her

>>10171613
Geder is what I'd be like as a villain.

>>10171616
He's what a lot of people who read SF/F would be, I think. It's funny because it makes him easily the most 'human' character in the book.

>>10171446
>mary sues
You keep using this word and the more you use it the more convinced I am that you don't actually know what it means.
>There are many characters for no real reason
Yeah like I said: just stop reading now and save yourself some trouble, cause it's apparent from you're attitude you're not interested in trying to get into the series. You're just wasting your time. Malazan is a huge story: hundreds of named characters, events spanning continents, worlds, and hundreds of millennia. It is absolutely jam packed with information. It takes several books for any individual character to build up their rapport with the reader, for arcs to materialize, even for the actual plot to come together. Yet you have already lost patience and you're not even done with book 2, with most of the main cast not even introduced and the main story not even underway.

So believe me when I tell you that you are wasting your time with Malazan if you are complaining by book 2. You don't have what it takes.

This book was so bad. What in the fuck man

>>10171213
>major authors
There's your problem, you gotta read marginal weirdos with 8 ratings on Amazon

>>10171875
>Yet you have already lost patience and you're not even done with book 2
Lost patience? Maybe you missed where I said that I'll force myself to complete the 2nd book at least, maybe the 3rd as well if I'm not drawn in by then. No need to be so defensive bud

I didn't mean to complain... just asking when it ramps up. You can't deny that, if it takes well over a thousand pages to ramp up, that it might require above average patience/perseverance for the average fantasy reader to get into it. It's not optimal but hell, I'll do it if it pays off at some point. If it doesn't then well, I'll be disappointed but at least I tried.

Btw I find the experience to be enhanced if I read the books while listening to Caladan Brood. Amazing band

>>10171612
Antrax is kinda decent but it's the middle novel in a trilogy

>>10171954
I wasn't there wherever that happened, I'm just telling you right now: Malazan is not an easy read. It's extremely long and does not hand you information on a plate, you have to be very patient and piece things together over several books to make sense of what is going on. I see you complaining about how "characters are shallow" and it just seems to me like you don't even understand what the books are doing and you expect it to be like LotR or something.

Bit of a weird question but I think that my epub of Elric of Melnibone might be missing some bits. Or maybe I'm just a total idiot and not understanding what's happening

In "The Ship Which Sails Over Land and Sea" they go from talking about finding the Ship to the Mirror of Memory breaking, and them somehow being where Yrkoon is.

>Elric frowned, deepening the lines which now marked his face. ‘Aye—Straasha might know. But I’m loath to call on his aid again. The Water Elementals are not the powerful creatures that the Lords of Chaos are. Their strength is limited and, moreover, they are inclined to be capricious, in the manner of the elements. What is more, Dyvim Tvar, I hesitate to use sorcery, save where absolutely imperative…’

>‘You are a sorcerer, Elric. You have but lately proved your greatness in that respect, involving the most powerful of all sorceries, the the mirror some property we did not anticipate?’

>‘Possibly…’ Elric tried to remember what Arioch had told him. But Arioch had been vague. He had said nothing of this dreadful, mighty sound, this shattering clangour as if… ‘He is breaking the mirror!’ he said. ‘But why?’ There was something more now, something brushing at his brain. As if the sound were, itself, sentient.

Am I missing a chunk of story here or am I just not getting Moorckock's writing?

>>10162804
The Last Ringbearer

Anyone got the wheel of time audiobooks?
Not on mam or mobilism

>>10172813
I really recommend checking this book out to anyone who likes Tolkien's stuff. Vae Victus indeed.

>>10172905
http://audiobookbay.nl/?s=wheel+of+time+

>>10172928
Thanks babe

>>10171612
As usual when there's a question about literally whatever the answer is Book of the New Sun.

Any well written books that capture similar feels and themes as pic related? I imagine Philip K Dick would be an obvious answer but I am not a fan of his prose

>>10172810
You're missing pretty much the entire adventure. No idea how that happened.

>>10173012
Damn. Thank you.

I guess that's what I get for pirating shit.

>>10172975
I didn't believe it at first and though it's just typical /lit/ wankery buy after I read it I realized that yes, nothing comes close.

>>10173018
>that's what I get for pirating shit.
aah, reminds me of my teenage years when harry potter was all the rage in the early 2000s.
I was poor and from a family that frowned upon any book that wasn't a textbook, so I was reduced to pirating HP pdfs. Anyway, for years the best pdf i had of 'the Chamber of Secrets' had a few pages missing and i was none the wiser.
can't help but chuckle now.

>>10173018
Are you using the 1.91 mb version of the epub?

Be honest with me sffg. Do you think I would make a good mom?

>>10173107
You're a better mom than Rick Sanchez and Severian.

The old Eternal Champion hardbacks are nice, if Stormbringer is an indication. 1993 hardback.

so varg would be one of the rohirrim

>>10173225
With B&W plates/illustrations before each story.

>>10171081
>does a horror author have any happy endings in his catalog

>>10172978
Altered Carbon?? Though it's stretching it somewhat to suggest a strong similarity.

>>10173107
Your brood will be fearsome senpai.

>>10164532
>How's the 3 colours of Mard trilogy
I only read the first one, literally half of it is endless descriptions of bleak dusty Mars landscapes.

>>10170936
Try Basilisk Station by David Weber. It's the first book of his Honor Harrington series. Unfortunately it is also the best book in that series, the others never reached that level again.

>>10173474
>literally half of it is endless descriptions of bleak dusty Mars landscapes
I know, isn't it great?

>>10173474
I found it to be okay but gave me very literal motivation to read the next book. The only characters of any interest were the fat American and the autistic science guy.

>>10173590
If you liked it then read the next book, Green Mars. Feel free to forgo reading Blue Mars unless you are highly motivated to.

>>10173511
What did you like about it? I read a lot of milsf but I couldn't stand that one, the author was too in love with the MC and the treecats just broke any semblence of immersion book had going for it.

>>10173647
>too in love with the MC and the treecats just broke any semblence of immersion
Yeah, the Mary-Sueness of the main character tends to be annoying, and it only gets worse in the later books. But I can mostly overlook that for the sake of the rest of the book. ther than that the story had a "realistic", gritty feel about it, lots of other memorable characters (like Chief Harkness) and some brilliant action scenes, like the final chase of the giant Q-Ship.

does fat fuck Rothfuss even plans to release third book?
it seems that he just shitposts on his blog instead of writing.
this is all his post for this year:

October 20, 2017 JoCo Cruise 2018
October 3, 2017 Worldbuilders: Puerto Rico and Hurricane Relief
September 29, 2017 10th Anniversary Edition NOTW: Sneek Peek at Art, Tour Dates, and Events at NYCC
September 21, 2017 The Things My Dad Has Said
September 14, 2017 Cameos, Poker Chips, and Some Seriously Cool News…
August 31, 2017 The Mighty Mighty Rothtones (And PAX Schedule.)
August 28, 2017 Secrets, Arts, and News of Three Parts
August 15, 2017 The Name of the Wind Art Deck
August 11, 2017 Babies: Meet Bast, Auri, Elodin, and Kvothe
August 1, 2017 New Additions to the Family: Japanese editions of Name of the Wind
July 19, 2017 Upcoming Events: Madison, Amarillo, and GenCon
June 23, 2017 10th Anniversary Edition: Cover Reveal
June 9, 2017 Making Change
June 5, 2017 Geeks Doing Good 2017
May 25, 2017 T-shirts and Onesies: The Votening
May 12, 2017 Tattoo 2: News & Tattoos Too
May 7, 2017 News From Temerant
April 28, 2017 Art Contest III: The Artening.
April 10, 2017 The Warning on the Door
April 4, 2017 Elections, Activism, Updates, and Invitations
March 29, 2017 Fictional Conflict
March 3, 2017 Fee Fie Faux
February 22, 2017 Beautiful Games….
February 17, 2017 Humble Bundle: Fantastic Fiction
February 10, 2017 What We’re Doing & How We’re Coping
February 2, 2017 Worldbuilders Stretch Goal: Book 3 Q&A.
January 26, 2017 Pat’s Far Travels: PAX South

>>10173778

The Name of the Wind is fucking garbage and literally everything that's wrong with fantasy wrapped up in one book.

>>10173778
after he stropped crying about Trump
so i guess in 7 years

>>10173849
Pls, elaborate.

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