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No. I'm not autistic, and I have some bare minimum level of self-respect.

>>10156477
>Not being autodidact
way to go pal

>arguing with your professor
Are you autistic?

>>10156481

Thanks. Teacher here. We actually don't mind healthy debate so long as it doesn't interfere with our lectures. We have office hours for a reason.

Furthermore, if you wish to make an actual scene DURING class, I take that personally (I'm human, after all) because it's more about you grandstanding than making a point

I'm a history autist and during an ENGL 101 class the prof, who was a generic middle aged feminist, tried to equate the Crusades with modern terrorism. I had to shove some fucking historical context into her.

I've never met one.
Unless you mean doctor; no.

>>10156477
I don't argue with People of Learning. I just pleasantly work on interjecting with subconscious insinuations about their cosy offices, the breath taking views, the walls that seal them in tranquillity, but only while trying to lead them into discussions about the outside world and the politics that happens there, outside.

I also sometimes waited to see how irritated they were with me next class. The good ones fed the troll in me and cut me down, the others played group politics that was meant to gratify their ego - as most specialists without merit are want to do from time to time when young sexual attention can come their way so easily.

>>10156495
The question was how it went. Please expand.

Depends on the professor. Anyone trying to do social or political philosophy outside a philosophy department is the academic equivalent of a chem-trail theorist.

Never. Worst I would do is sometimes asking a seemingly innocent question that I knew would get the professor off track if I didn't feel like listening to what they were talking about. I don't think I'm capable of arguing with anyone except my immediate family.

>>10156503
>

No because it adds nothing of worth to the lecture. More often than not the professor has thought longer and harder than you to reach their conclusions and its better to ask constructive questions that actually make them elucidate their points rather than take time away from your classmates and damaging your own image in the professor's eyes.

>>10156477
yes, but after class.
It went well (we both understood each other's viewpoint more) but I don't think I had the command of language at the time apt to demonstrate the point of disagreement. To this day he's still one of my favorite professors albeit a psychology one.

What is with autistic kids thinking they are comedians in lecture? Every time there is some sperg in the very front of the class making dumb little comments all the time

>>10156495
Oh so you mansplained?

One time I gaslighted this professor into bumping my grade to an A instead of a B+. I got a B+ in her class and I knew it was because she didn't like me, because she's a crazy bitch who plays favorites and seems to hate male students. I knew she did it just to fuck with me, because the paper was so vague that she could give you anything from a C to an A without explaining the difference.

I spent a month and a half simultaneously acting like a crazy person who was willing to dispute the grade all the way up to the highest tribunal of the land, but ALSO acting overly innocent and nice about it, like I wasn't angry, or even determined, I was just totally fucking insane and willing to push some technicality through ten levels of review over three years until she was forced to explain her grading practices in minutiae when they didn't exist to begin with.

She got progressively more baffled throughout the email exchanges and office meetings, and kept trying to figure out where I was even coming from. She tried a lot of different emotional tacks, starting out like "what are you going to do about it?" and then sometimes angry, sometimes apathetic, but no matter what, I never let up on the facade, and she never seemed to be able to settle on a single approach to take with me. The only piece of information she got from me was that I was apparently willing to go through every single formality and do everything necessary to make her justify her grading scheme in front of as many third parties as possible.

She got increasingly exasperated, and seemed kind of nutty in the last emails, and then finally had someone from the office email me to say the grade was changed.

One time in a class I defended the 1950s when the professor was shitting all over that decade for being oppressive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsEyDe8YhhI

>had to do a presentation on Marshal McLuhan whom I hate with a passion
>could not resist shitting on him
>prof lowkey hated me the rest of the semester because of this
>end of semester and oral exam
>I do my presentation, external sensor thinks it's an A, prof want's to give me a D
>rules are clear, external sensor ranks above if they disagree
>the three of us get into a heated argument about this
>he storms out of the room
>send a complaint to my uni, he get's a formal warning and I do it again with different sensors and get my A

My parents are both professors. I used to argue with them a lot when I was a kid, but then they took on this habit yelling at me for the better part of an hour and I eventually learned to just shut down physically and emotionally when that happened, which I later applied to basically my whole life. I now enjoy the life of an emotionally crippled autist en face.

>>10156590
You must have endeared yourself to all to the ladies anon

>>10156495

So some Christian lords and their armed retainers fighting some Muslim lords and their armed retainers is equivalent to 9/11?

Maybe she should stick to teaching English.

>>10156495
Everybody believes you anon

>>10156601
The irony is that the insane amount of Muslim aggression, I wonder how many Americans who pluck out historical events for their contemporary narrative are actually aware of the Muslim conquest of Spain. Or that the Levant, Anatolia and Persia weren't muslim a priori.

>>10156599
The broads didn't like me too much in that class.

>>10156631
Is there a place where they do like you?

>>10156634
My dreams.

>>10156546
Am I suppose to get that. I even looked it up. What this even mean?

>>10156620
>weren't muslim a priori

Just...what

I actually laughed audibly

>>10156566
You no nothing of tact, and less of human and real intelligence. It is an act of grace to inject where one must, and if other might witness your greatness, than let your esteem arise as it will. Only fools suffering ignorance in silence, only the ignorant think of themselves am needing to be always humble. "Speak before you act, so that you act not in jest." The words could never be truer than now.

>>10156620

You seem very earnest and young but yes I agree with you in general.

>>10156657
Forgive me for not adhering to accurate philosophical usage of the term on an anonymous shitposting image board, in this case it isn't referring to theoretical deduction. You're a REALLY smart guy, I'm sure you can figure out what it means given the context

>>10156653
he's feeding flourine to his gerbil-man

>>10156596
why do you hate McLuhan?

>>10156477
He sent a letter to the dean (I think that's the term? the guy responsible for the faculty) to get me kicked out of the program. It's funny now but it sucked at the time, especially since I was right, but he was an egotist asshole who just wanted me to apologize for having contradicted him and in the end nothing happened.

>>10156756
hello walker

>>10156778
I'm not sure I get the reference.

To add to my post the main argument was about how digital compositing would soon replace physical compositing in film. He couldn't hold how this would ever happen. The worst part is that this was barely 10 years ago. I might not be the most socially smart person, but what the hell? Anyway, he was dumb , his only film was a massive failure and I think something happened to him later because he was harassing female students, so fuck him.

>>10156778
I'm not sure I get the reference.

To add to my post, the main argument was about how digital compositing would soon replace and become superior to physical compositing in film. He couldn't fathom how this would ever happen. The worst part is that this was barely 10 years ago. What the hell? There were probably other incidents, but the guy was incompetent. Anyway, he was dumb, he had shit taste, his only film was a massive failure and I think something happens to him later on because he was harassing female students, so fuck him.

i corrected a christcuck teacher using pseudo philosophy trying to posit the idea that gay adoption should be prohibited due to the fact that a naturally built family is more beneficial for the child since he gets both needed role models. I argued that studies didn't reflect that, but that even if it did, the childcare system is infected with child abuse and neglect, making such deficiency negligible.

The guy was livid, lol.

>>10156477
Yes.
It went well, because the point of the exercise was to argue with the professor.

>>10156581
I hope this happened

>>10156711
He represents the worst kind of reductionist technological determinism. His theory of medium specificity is pathetic and completely useless for any sort of in-depth analysis, as it presupposed a clear demarcation between different media purely and directly based on material and physical properties. For him aesthetic activity, rhetoric, textual codes and cultural aspects of media are reduced to an determined by the technological medium itself. How media are used and understood, plus the entire relationship between reader/text are just thrown together into a poorly defined, purely technological conception of media. What's worse, he tries to extend his theory of "hot" and "cool" media to entire societies and cultures in general, lumping all non-western culture into the category of "cool backwards societies".

All of this based on anecdotes and arbitrary historical connections, grounded in completely uncritical technological optimism and wrapped in pompous british language. There is absolutely no reason why anyone should read him at a university and his influence is an absolute embarrassment to academia. Fucking fraud.

>>10156833
>pathetic
Not a point
>useless
Not a reason

>>10156574
We had one guy make snarky comments about women when during my master's degree. Pretty fedora-tier, without the clothing to match it. In my class we used to get touchy-feely with the girls because a loy of us have known each other for some time and also a lot of us were on and off fucking. Imagine his shock when he got a black eye after he grabbed some chick's ass. Autists really don't get context do they?

>>10156477
>taking a course on research methods
>prof spends 90% of each lecture shitposting and trolling us, making outlandish claims to get people to counterargue and think for themselves
>dude was basically redpill and anti-sjw before most had heard of these terms
>most students hate his points of view but too retarded/unmotivated to ever offer any counter arguments
>one day prof casually suggests that all prisoners should be executed to deter others and save taxpayer $
>takingthebait.jpg
>mention how there's little evidence of positive correlation between harshness of punishment and crime rate
>mention how certain minorities are grossly overrepresented in prison population so you'd just be systematically eliminating people of a certain race
>all of a sudden tard-bots pipe up
>"omg did you just say minorities commit more crimes" "yeah anon that's so racist"
>a couple more proto-sjws join this bizarre circlejerk
>mfw look at prof in disbelief, he's laughing at me like "what the fuck did you expect"

>>10156836
read the rest of the sentence then and refute my points if you're interested in """reasons""", fucking illiterate autist

>>10156833
Thanks anon I'm planning on reading McLuhan soon I'll try to keep your criticisms in mind.

>>10156494
>I encourage debate as long as you don't challenge my point of view in front of others
>(I'm a petty human, after all)
a decent educator would welcome the opportunity to transcend their role as a glorified text-book reader. unless you're teaching a course that is free from controversy (e.g. real analysis), chances are whatever shitty memes your telling us during our lectures will be obsolete soon enough

>>10156872
Not OP, but some students are pretty annoying and just go on and on and can really disturb the flow of the class for other students. This can get old quick, especially when the student I'm question thinks he is smarter than he is. I get why a lot of teachers prefer not to engage repeatedly on minor points with a single student during class.

>>10156872
>a decent educator would welcome the opportunity to transcend their role as a glorified text-book reader. unless you're teaching a course that is free from controversy (e.g. real analysis), chances are whatever shitty memes your telling us during our lectures will be obsolete soon enough
You either never had several lectures disrupted by autists who inject their opinions and questions to everything the lecturer says or you are that autist who everyone hates for wasting their time by trying to sound smart.

>>10156872
Unless you're one of those stupid fucks who continually questions the lecture content even though they're just fucking dense as shit and don't realize, then hold the entire lecture up and make all the other students hate you. Like Walker from John William's Stoner.

>political philosophy class
>professor is an unironic commie
>make my final presentation about neoliberalism and its role in lifting countries out of poverty, individual freedom and the state
>speak for about 20 minutes
>once I'm done, professor immediately interjects
>we end up arguing til the very end of the class (about one and a half hour after I'd finished my presentation)
>we disagree to the very end, but he gives me the maximum grade ("impressive research")

>ancient philosophy class
>we are working through one of Aristotle's refutations of the sophists
>somewhere in one of the arguments, he brings up the point that words are material
>*scratch head like a motherfucker*
>I spend the rest of the class ruminating on this
>approach him at the end of the lecture
>"speech and writing aren't words; words are something abstract that precede said material representations", so goes my reading of it all
>he disagrees
>we end up exchanging emails on this for well over a month
>bring it up during one of his later classes
>"well, you can't seem to let this go, huh, anon?"
>"I remain unconvinced"
>cue long exchange where each one of us reassert the same shit we've talking about via emailing
>class joins us: some people seem to agree with me, but the vast majority of class agrees with the teach
>he explicitly forbids me of ever bringing it up again in class

Had a Prof make an offhand joke about how "soft-scientists" do whatever, so I interjected. His response was that the level of certainty in "hard" science was much better than those kooks. Moments later he started taking about three-ring as a source of data for temperature....

>>10156495
>"The crusades were terrible for the cities that were sacked, absolutely devastating to the Middle East. Cities were razed, men were executed, women were raped, the treasures of entire civilizations were stolen. In many ways the violence can be compared to the conflicts between modern groups like ISIS and - "
>"Well ACTUALLY professor it was the duty of the white god-fearing christian man to rape and pillage because muslims are just as bad. Stop being an sjw cuck and watch some of my man jbp, that's Jordan B Peterson for you libtards. Europeans dindu nuffin. Deus vult."

>>10156988
>Cities were razed, men were executed, women were raped, the treasures of entire civilizations were stolen. In many ways the violence can be compared to the conflicts between modern groups like ISIS
modern terrorist organizations basically invented these things

>>10157029
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Jesus Christ are you retarded?

>>10157029
What is the purpose of such a needlessly stupid post, anon

>>10156840
>mfw look at prof in disbelief, he's laughing at me like "what the fuck did you expect"

>>10157029
>modern terrorist organizations basically invented these things
Not him but fuck you. Learn about war between nations and 'war' conducted by terrorist groups. You'll find that the vast majority of terrorist groups don't have anywhere near the number of people AND governance structure AND economic system of ISIS

I am triggered by this statement.

10/10. Shitty enough to piss me off, not too shitty as to appear as obvious bait.

>>10156953
What arguments did the later have for words being material?

>>10157036
that it's fucking stupid to compare the christian crusades with modern terrorism considering the links between them are universal in any violent conflict in history. It's cool to compare modern terrorism with past conflicts but it's idiotic to compare past conflicts with modern situations, especially considering that the conflict in the middle east is pretty tame compared to what war was like in the middle ages. it's lazy and presumes the person listening knows absolutely nothing outside of what's been in the news for the last decade, and if you disagree I hope your complacency kills you

>>10156477
My professor likes to insert random esoteric references that have cunt-all to do with the topic during seminars, like a trashy 90s anime director. I snapped during one of his branching tangents, because suddenly going into Topology 101 in the middle of econometrics is fine, I guess, but going from Topology 101 into Kabbalah is just plain stupid.

He told me that he is just trying to engage the audience.

>>10157052
>cunt-all

>>10156988

That was what the conduct of war was like in the Medieval Era. It was no different in intra-European conflicts.

>>10156597
:(

>>10156952
>>10156914
ffs stop being pussies and just tell the autist to fuck off. if you're geting cucked in class by an autist, it's only a matter of time before you get cucked for real

>>10157052
>going from Topology 101 into Kabbalah
This sounds like some sick ass Cyclonopedia shit, my dude. You should have let him continue.

One time a middle aged man in an ancient religion class I was taking kept interjecting to draw comparisons to some fucking video game about Akhenaten.

>>10157052
Whats the name of your prof? He sounds like a well read guy.

>>10157052
How are Topology and Kabbalah related? Im genuinely curious as to how your prof explained the interrelationship

>>10156802
Were you studying Cinema ten years ago? What happened? What do you do now?

t. filmmaking student

>>10157101
>>10157143
>>10157152
I've made it up, obviously. In real life it's all dull drudgery and profs at my university - and in my country, generally - avoid all traces of personality, fearing, perhaps, that they'll have to go the extra mile and interact with the students in a fashion that they are not paid to do. Remembering their names gets tougher every year, but I can understand the logic behind their (in-)actions. Students here prey upon anybody who shows a quantum of familiarity and derail every lecture and workshop, creating some weird fusion between a cult of personality and vicious mockery.

How Kabbalah and topology relate may actually be an intresting topic, going to read something on that.

>>10157100
you do realize we are in a world where professors are getting fired at the whim of students, i don't blame them for being careful not to offend the retarded virtue signally autists.

Also making a point> Losing your job.

>>10156581
Any chance you could pastebin this email exchange? Removing any chance of it being linked back to you of course.

>>10156805
You were wrong.

>>10156872
I swear to God, please don't speak during lecture unless there's any open debate or you don't understand the material. Why the hell do people think Phil 101 and second-year history courses are the time to begin their political crusade?
I didn't pay to hear your shit opinions when they're not needed or asked for, take it to the public debate forum literally any good college has if you're so confident your illustrious opinions on Islam will hold up.

>>10157029
>he doesn't know what the fourth crusade was

>>10157626

no he wasn't go back to your /pol/ containment board

>>10156833

The problem is that you’re attempting to read a man trying to come up with frameworks to examine the zeitgeist and make predictions as if he’s making an analytical argument, and he’s not.

By comparison, this is like arguing with your aunt at Thanksgiving that her feelings about her job she dislikes, and why she thinks someday the compamy will go under due to a lack of emotional glue connecting managers, irrespective of balance sheets, is wrong.

You can’t argue with the above because it explicitly admits its not an academic theory; she knows her feelings are not objective and that current company financial success directly contradicts her opinion that they’ll shut down, but it’s still valuable as it’s someone introspectively trying to determine the meaning of 100 intangibles, to see if anything tangible will result.

McLuhan has a great track record for doing this, being the first person to clearly articulate to recognize that the medium content is presented on dictates almost everything about the content including how you ultimately perceive it, as well as predicting the invention of the internet, what one would do on it, and that it would ultimately be personal rather than centralized, successfully predicting, approximately, the creation of personal computer following centralized terminals at universities.

Go reread his playboy interview with the above in mind, I almost guarantee you’ll like him more.

I had a professor who was a Beowulf scholar, and he tried to get the class debating on whether the dragon was evil or just an animalistic force of nature and when I brought up that dragons were people transformed by greed, like Fafnir, in old Germanic works he absolutely lost it and went off on me.

>>10156477

I've posted this before.

>had class on WWI
>Professor was insecure woman, refused to acknowledge anyone unless they addressed her as professor
>one day she claims that people in the past thought differently than we did, that they seen everything through their respective ideologies, and that we no longer had any ideologies
>I raise my hand, and ask if the notion of us having no ideology is not itself a type of ideology
>she ignores my question and goes off on an unrelated tangent
>I approach her after class, and ask her what sources I should read to understand where, when and how ideology came to an end, as this was surely one of the most important developments in human history
>she starts to stammer about election results (what that had to do with anything I couldn't see) and was visibly uncomfortable
>I interrupted her by thanking her for her time and then left

I met her in our department a few days later. I was about to say hello when she said "I don't have time to talk!" and hurried away in the opposite direction.

>>10156704

>I no use word right but u dumb

>>10157655
Yeah I get where you're coming from.
But if you really think my opinions are shit i.e. opinions that have less evidentiary basis than whatever standard narrative the prof is espousing, it takes like 20 seconds to call me out on being full of shit.
Sometimes you gotta get your hands dirty to maintain order my man, instead of whining on an anon board.
And frankly, the whole "I paid to get a piece of paper with my name on it, not to hear your opinion" thing reeks of the anti-intellectualism you accuse the political crusader of.

>>10156620
this... ahahaha. this dude really thought that a.... that a priori means... HAHAHAHAHAH

>>10158071
>>10158258
>What is colloquialism
It's okay I'm sure all that time studying Kant's Critiques will impress people enough for them to pay you

A sociology professor and card-carrying Communist spent the whole semester shilling for gun control. I asked him what would ever happen if someone broke into his house with a gun and he said he'd just call the police like it wouldn't take them ten minutes to arrive. Thought about loading up the Mini 30 to teach him a lesson but I never got around to it.

>>10156620
>Or that the Levant, Anatolia and Persia weren't muslim a priori.
wut

>>10156574
Lighten the fuck up.

>>10158278
Misusing a word because you do not know what it means =/= colloquial use.

I like how you think using a priori correctly equates to studying Kant and trying to impress people.

>>10158278

>If you know what that word means and how it should be used then you're just a pretentious psuedo-intellectual

>>10156620
>Or that the Levant, Anatolia and Persia weren't muslim a priori.

Not openly in class. Nobody like that kid. I do sometimes stay after class and talk, but usually I’m able to build friendships with them. I still talk to some of my professors via email, and we trade music back and forth.

Even if we fundamentally disagree with one another, I don’t think it’s impossible to be friends and have a productive discussion about a topic.

I’m a bit autistic when talking in class though, in that I usually don’t unless I’ve got something to say. I’ll review the lesson the night before and think up a good question before class, but usually one that has an answer. I fucking hate those people who refuse to have their world views or beliefs challenged. Like, why are you in college if all you’re going to do is take up time in a 100 level philosophy course arguing with some professor about Christianity? I wanted to kill myself in my logic class because his kid ALWAYS had an objection to the professor (who had been teaching philosophy for 25+ years). The kid was almost usually wrong. Bless your heart, Tom, for tolerating Mark.

Read not to contradict, but weigh to consider. It’s completely okay to raise objections but do it in a manner that doesn’t intrude on others, and be willing to accept your position may be wrong.

>>10156574
>make a few innocuous jokes from time to time
>single peevish schmuck sitting in the back gets upset
Truly a Batman-Joker type relationship.

>>10156872
>real analysis
>free from controversy
humanities majors believe this

>>10158366
>people who refuse to have their world views or beliefs challenged
>Like, why are you in college if all you’re going to do is take up time in a 100 level philosophy course arguing with some professor
You are dumber than that a priori anon.

>>10158407
That was real rude Kant-sama.

All I'm saying is that this is a class of like 60+ people, and if you feel so threatened by some poor bastard trying to explain basic philosophy to people then you need to do some self evaluation.

If you disagree with something from our readings, reject it in the term paper. Share after class with the professor. If you're going to posit a question in class, at least make it good or thought provoking. Demonstrate a willingness to at least learn, instead of being defensive.

That's what I'm trying to say

>>10156477
A physics professor said alpha was from the Latin alphabet and I said I thought it was Greek and he said no and I said ok can carried on

>>10156477
W..what is wrong with retarded pepe?

Yes. It was so fucking stupid that I had to speak up

>In "Multiculturalism in the United States" (I know, I know. I had to take it)
>Professor is going on about how the founding fathers smoked hemp and how weed was legal in the United States until black people tried growing it to make money
>Says that hemp was made illegal because white people thought that when women smoked it, it made them want to fuck black people
>Try to contain my autisms, but I can't
>Ask her if she's talking about hemp or weed because I'm so confused at this point
>She's talking about hemp, tries to say that people were smoking hemp and growing it in the pre-civil war times
>Ask her if she knows that you can't get high off hemp and that's an industrial crop
>"No, I use the oils all the time."
>Just leave it at that because I don't want to turn this into an argument

I understand that people can be make mistakes and be wrong, but this was just objective retardation. People can be wrong, and that's alright, but I swear she was just making shit up.

>>10158435
Its apu.

I used to argue with teachers.

Not so much anymore. Instead, I shut up because I learned it's no fucking use to do so even if my professor says something really profoundly stupid. Really, the smart move is to just not care and not say anything in class and hold no presence. It's allowed me to get a new perspective. Other people who do talk a lot in class tend to make me cringe and i'm glad I'm not one of them anymore.

>>10158451
I heard that the Declaration of Independence was written on paper made from Marijuana. Is that true?

>>10158472
Yeah man. They had the rewrite it actually because Ben Franklin blazed up the first copy with Washington.

>>10156477
>be notorious class clown in high school, one time diving across a teacher's desk like a slip-and-slide and knocking over everything on his desk.
>night classes, classmates single parents and former military who work during the day, razor thin tolerance for bullshit
>read Infinite Jest the summer before college. unironically believed it was the pinnacle of literature despite only reading high school literature prior to it.
>English Literature, The American Experience class
>female "instructor", AKA Ph.D student
>I bring up Infinite Jest in literally every single discussion, even if it has nothing to do with it
>instructor tells me how Infinite Jest is a contemporary work that might be forgotten in the next 10 years, not worthy of comparison to the classics, and beyond the scope of this class
>actual animosity builds between instructor and i
>sometimes in the middle of discussion while she's talking, i'll take my copy of Infinite Jest out of my backpack and loudly smack it onto my desk, making the entire class jump and look at me. This caused the professor to KNOW I'm about to ask a question relating her monologue to Infinite Jest, and you can feel her shifting her monologue mid-sentence to steer away from as much possible Infinite Jest-related things as she could. That simple smack was a real mind fuck. The rest of the class was glaring at me.
>one day I did this and a former US Marine sitting next to me literally grabbed my copy of Infinite Jest and threw it out the window. We were on like the 4th floor and it was raining outside.
>the class applauded loudly
>then SMACK! i had another copy of Infinite Jest in my backpack. I was SO proud of this, and trying so hard to hold back my shit-eating grin but I couldn't contain it. I looked beyond autistic.
>"Get out!" the instructor yelled. Thinking everyone would laugh, I was scared at her response, and the Marine took my backpack and book and placed it in the hallway and held the door for me to leave
>i ended up dropping the class

>>10156477
yes, but very briefly
It wasn't an argument so much as a question about an assertion he made: Why is the Cartesian circle a logical fallacy?
He responded:
>because Descartes is trying to prove God but uses God as a proof for God
now I know that it isn't actually fallacious at all, but I went along with what he said because I was a layman at the the time

>>10156477
I got into a somewhat fiery, but ultimately respectful (no yelling or name-calling) discussion/debate with an instructor who tried to claim during one of my classes that Quine was a logical-positivist "anti-philosopher" who thought that we should just stop doing philosophy and do science instead. I held off on confronting him about it until the end of class, since I didn't want to interrupt things and make a scene, but I went up to the front as soon as the class finished and point-blank asked him why he said Quine was a logical-positivist, given that he wasn't, and is pretty widely regarded as having destroyed the movement via his criticisms of its central doctrines. The discussion, as I said, got a bit spicy, and became pretty technical fairly quickly. He made some claims that I found quite spurious, but I didn't want to flat out say they were completely false (e.g. he claimed Quine's views could be split into early and late periods, like those of Wittgenstein, and said that Quine had to water down/roll back some of his views due to academic pressure and 'politics'), so I just pushed him to give me examples and asked him who'd done work that argued this. He kind of softened his stance by saying that he'd have to go back and read some more of Quine's stuff, but said that he'd spoken to "well regarded scholars" who had made the same claims. Given that this wasn't exactly a private conversation (about 12 people had gathered around us while we spoke) I understand why he'd want to end it that way, but I still left feeling pretty pissed-off, and I lost a lot of respect for the instructor as a result. I stopped attending his class regularly after that.

>>10158371
lol. ya got me.
are you just talking about axiom of choice or is there some other aspect of set theory or some other assumption fundamental to analysis that is considered controversial?
i have a feeling this is truly approaching super-pedantic/acoustic thresholds for what qualifies as "controversy"

>>10157080
but this one was waged against poor brown people you fucking intolerant racist biggit

>>10156988
>The crusades were terrible for the cities that were sacked
No way

>absolutely devastating to the Middle East
In the sense that it was a "distraction" for them or in that you could argue it sapped manpower of the major potentates that could've stemmed the [regular] tide of steppeniggers (it wouldn't have btw), but you could also argue that it served to unite many Arabs against a common foreign foe/the kuffar, at a time when the Arab/Muslim world was fragmented and full of "in-fighting" in what used to be a theocracy with power centralized in a single caliph and non-sunnis and minority faiths less of an issue.

tl;dr you're retarded

I don't know if this counts but I'll say something anyway.

So, one of my professors was a self identifying social justice warrior and feminist.

The class was theater history, which I had to take, and each subject she'd make it about how blacks or women were oppressed in theater.

One day after class and everyone was gone I went up to her and asked if she could maybe not be so political with her lessons. She looked really confused and said she didn't think she was political. I told her that I kind of disagree with some of her views and felt that she was a bit confrontational with her political views since as her students nobody really had any choice but to kind of agree with her. I was starting to wish I hadn't said anything thought and after she said she wasn't confrontational with her politics I told her that I'm sorry for troubling here and that I probably shouldn't have said anything and to just forget it.

Next class she states in front of whole class that her class isn't biased classroom but that hate speech will not be tolerated and all that kind of stuff. I just sat down quietly in my seat trying to keep on my poker face, wishing I just kept my fucking mouth shut as she glanced at me.

>>10158486
kek

>>10156974
>certainty
The absence of total certainty makes certainty about certainty an uncertainty.
STEMspergs are the height of anti-intellectual cancer
>>10156953
Abstract objects are material you STEMsperg.

>>10158371
No controversy in the undergradshitfest which you belong to, newcancer.

>>10158568
you should've
> 1.) asked her if any classroom or person can really be without bias
> 2.) asked her to define hate speech
it could've been fantastic man

I got into an argument with one because I put a phrase in quotes. I said something like, "Space Lawyers," or some shit. He wrote on my paper that I needed to cite my source to it.

I told him I wasn't citing anything, I just wrote that phrase in quotes because it's kind of a ridiculous idea, and I wanted to draw attention to it with quotes that's all.

He was like, "Well...you still need to cite the source."

I ask what source is he talking about.

He says the person who made the phrase up.

I said I made it up.

He says: no no, who thought it up originally?

I said I did, for all I know. If somebody else has used the idea, I don't know, but I'm not citing any of their work for my paper.

He gets visibly upset. I kind of suspected that he didn't really read my paper, and he just saw a quote without a citation, and automatically took points off, without actually reading it. I think he realized that I completely realized this was the case at this point, but he didn't want to loose face, so he just got made and threw his arms out and said, "Well you still need to cite it!"

I'm like....cite what? Cite the fact that I just now on the spot, made up a phrase for the purpose of a dumb goddamn paper?

He just keeps repeating that I always need to cite sources.

This argument goes on for about 20 minutes, him not backing down at all, and towards the end he starts accusing me of plagiarism.

I ask who am I plagiarizing, myself?

He then goes on a 5 minute speech about how it's actually possible to plagiarize one's self, and I shouldn't act like that's a dumb idea.

I get fed up and just say I'll fix it and turn it back in. I citing my source as my own paper, that anyone reading it would have just read. He said he wasn't happy with that, but didn't take any more points off.

He was a real douche.

>>10158623
Fuck off back to plebbit with your literal fucking redditspacing.

>>10158623
You should have put "Space Lawyers" in scarequotes ('Space Lawyers') then, plebbitor.

>>10158631
that would still technically be a quotation...

>>10158637
>...
kys plebbitscum

Scarequotes aren't quotes, they're most often used to mark-out something uncommon or an odd phrase.
I had this same problem on a paper last week, and I just had to explain that I meant to put it in scarequotes.
Because he isn't some idiot who hasn't done research since the 40s as I assume your 'professor' has, he dropped the concern immediately.

Perhaps you should learn how to cite, because if that one point drew such a fuss, then you probably fucked everything up.

>>10158066
kek'd audibly

>>10158568
Should've screamed at the top of your lungs and shivved her with a sharpened pencil really fast, she shamed you

>>10158278
Mate I've read line 14 pages of Pure Reason and I don't use a priori wrong.
A proiri isn't colloquial vocabulary, it is technical. Use it properly or don't use it at all because nobody will know what you're fucking talking about.

>>10158649

Funny how my prof didn't know this, or could explain this to me instead of arguing for a half hour over it.

I did think, afterwards, that a simple solution would be to not just use quotes at all in the first place, or find some other method, but the argument was actually over the fact that I sort of caught the prof not knowing what the hell he was talking about, and he felt the need to defend himself instead of just being like, "Oh...i see, well just do x then."

Not claiming I'm a master of academic writing,seeing how I was a STUDENT, but you'd think the prof would be.

Just thought I'd spell the subtext of the story for you, tardboy.

>>10158258
It's actually correct use of a priori you pleb. Once you're done with freshman philosophy you might learn something.

>>10156495
> some smelly europeans migrated to civilization to destroy it

there is some truth to what she was saying you know.

I argued with a proffesor who talked about Saussure's concept of sign, he didnt really read about it before. After I pointed out that he doesnt understand the basics of his theory he sperged out

>>10156477
They appeal to the crowd of kiddos watching. They know they haven't really won, but as long as their image can be preserved for the class, they don't have to examine their ideas.

>>10156494
> Had friend who said he "won" debates against his professors
> Cringed into oblivion when he said that

>>10158672
Because they've only been in popular usage since the mid 90s. Saying he hasn't researched since the 40s was an exaggeration, but it is possible if he's an old fuck, that the last bit of modern research he did was in the early 90s.

>>10156477
had an argument with a teacher about the line between oral tradition and oral history

>>10156495
this is justified

>lit class
>professor points out JK Rolha as good example of successful fem writer
>correct her saying that what she writes is not lit>
> quote Harold bloom in the western cank
>most students agree with me
>I becomeknow as the most intelligently debaterin

>>10158702
in any case, kind of irrelevant to the story, but thanks for your valuable contribution.

>>10158711
so is this sarcastic or just terribly pathetic

>>10156596
McLuhan is is a drug addict Ed psued and I should know. You did right.

>>10156837
Did you go to college in the 80s or what?

>>10158711

You should've said it was only successful because it is well marketed towards people learning English as a second language and not because the content is actually good and the movies.

>>10158716
Harry potter fan?

>>10158472
it is my understanding that nearly all paper before the industrial revolution was hemp paper, DoI, bibles, newspapers, everything. the industrial revolution made trees more profitable than hemp crops, before heavy machinery trees were too dense to profitably process. transportation from forests to paper mills may have played a role. although timbers have always been floated on rivers, but obviously trains could be built to extract timber where there was no river. so the paper industry changed because of that.

>>10158009
>I don't know about Harold Innis

The post

>>10158566
>anon misinterprets the point of the post and spergs out
I love these episodes

>>10158726
Eastern Europe is a strange place for you Westerners anon.

> homeschool days
Teacher divid groups
Each groupwould need to read a writer
Ours would be jd salingers catcher in the rye
Being the only one who actually enjoys lit in the class, opposed saying that it's wrong that other are going to read great works lie lord of the flies, bp1984 and the book about burning books
Say the only thing good bout catcher in the rye was john lennons death
Manage to change the group and read the honnit by tolkien
Feelsfood

>>10158760
How do you fuck up greentexting?

>>10156477
>Psych 101
>Professor lets everyone know "FREUD IS DEAD"
>mfw when I read a shitton of Freud and Jung during my spare time
>Realize my prof was full of shit and probably a brainlet who's never read either.
>Day dream about debates in the classroom where I blow him the fuck out repeatedly
>never brother arguing in class because I'm not autistic

I would reference Freud in my assignments and whatnot quite often though because I'm a passive aggressive cunt

>>10158765
I just wanted the setting pgreentexted, doing some experiments

>>10158745
Misinterpret how, I took your post apart by the points you made which were retarded, the Crusades didn't devastate the Middle East, they were probably more immediately devastating for European kingdoms than anything considering the kings that got fucked by going on them like Barbarossa, Richard I, Louis IX to name a few.

>>10158791
I like how you went off from stupid to retard and now to some other level of idiocy that does not even have a name yet.

>>10158781
lolololol I actually think you mean this. Jesus christ it's pitiful how easy it is for people to make it to adulthood never once exposing their ideas to adult-level scrutiny.
1. Statistical methods are an engine of confirmation bias.
2. The analysts were each trapped in a masturbatory chamber of confirmation bias.
3. The self doesn't exist, the psyche isn't a thing.
4. I hope you continue into your career in psychologically regurgitating freud. Please be that guy so I have something to laugh at.

>>10158794
nice argument

>>10158781
Tfw when you study some crap yiur holy life and can't adnit that it is wrong because doing so would be admitting that youve wasted time

>>10158760
>>10158788
What the fuck

>>10158804
Not everything deserves an argument. You for one deserve a brick to the head to go with your full frontal lobotomy.

>>10156590
While it was certainly the final bright burning spark if WASP culture it was very impressive for large groups across the country.

>>10156953
>we disagree to the very end, but he gives me the maximum grade ("impressive research")

holy shit dude... i am impressed.

>>10158799
>career in psychology
?

>>10158816
>Not everything deserves an argument.
>I'll just make a series of pointless angry posts instead to display my ineptness.
Stellar lad.

>>10158623

Why are you double spacing individual sentences?

>>10156590
So what you said was:
>I want women to stay at home, because that's viable
>Niggers don't get to vote or do business
>even the Olympic Gold medalists need to get to their fucking ceremonies with the service elevator
>no Clean Water Act
>nuclear holocaust looming
>Korea

Are you a retard or something?

>>10158407
>You are dumber than that a priori anon.
Wrestle me faggot I'd HUMILIATE you

>>10158713
It's not irrelevant. You should have used scare quotes. If you would have used scare quotes, you wouldn't have confused the senile old bastard and he would have just asked what they mean or ignored it totally.

>>10158781
>my face when when

>>10158816
>>10158794
lol go home

>>10158791
>be so shit at invading you do more damage to yourself than the supposed enemy

Top kek, what a bunch of stupid faggots

>>10158813
?

>>10158868
>have to fight sandies in sandland, most of your men languish in the desert climate and often contract disease
>often have to march all the way across Europe, through hostile Asia Minor controlled by marauding turks if you didn't sail
>have to fight to reach your target initially and when the crusader states are established, defend it against constant Muslim onslaught after they recover from the initial shock and a process of centralization among them begins to wage jihad on you
>only have a portion of the men of christendom, kings often don't even come on crusade and it's left up to minor dukes and counts from Italy and France
they did respectably well, they even made sandies so butthurt that modern jihadists refer to ameriburger invasion as new crusades

>>10158451
>Multiculturalism in the United States" (I know, I know. I had to take it)
Sounds like an interesting class, why do you act like it's a mark of shame?

>>10159113
it actually kind of is (barring the blatantly wrong things we’re learning, but I just figured that it’d get shit on here

>>10156477
>2017
>Not arguing with Marxist teachers who want open borders and think whites should pay for it all, and that only white nations should have them/accept millions of 3rd world subhumans
>Ishiggydiggy

>>10156836
t. Stefan Molyneux

>>10158855

Yeah. I should have used something I didn't even know was a thing back then. Would have solved the whole situation.

>>10156477
Professor? No. I haven't really disagreed because, well, they don't really teach us anything but facts. So far, at least, they just ask us our opinions.

Secondary school teachers though, yeah.
>>10156495
I...yeah, that's really dumb. A full-scale invasion by disorganised holy-warring Franks is a bit more than running over a few guys in a car.

>>10156620
Yeah and the Christian Byzzies tried to stamp out the Mussies before getting Drawn Sword of Allah'd. What's your point? That "he did it first" is a good excuse?

>>10158898
Actually, that's a new thing which largely stems from Jihadist's own westernisation, implanting western romance (Crusades were so cool dude but also hell but also cool) into their culture.

Previously, the crusades were not considered too important because it was just a part of an already troubled time (for Muslims). It's not the crusades which made Muslims butthurt, anon -- it's the motherfucking Mongols.

I do wonder where you're getting this stuff from.

>>10158278
Looks like you don't know what a colloquialism is either.

>>10159142
>barring the blatantly wrong things we’re learning
Like what?

>>10158799
Freud isn't science. No one thinks that. But he was a hell of a philosopher and his insights into the cultural and psychological workings of people were and still are brilliant. A great deal of contemporary psychologists still rate many of his ideas quite highly, and therapists often find his methods useful.

>The self doesn't exist, the psyche isn't a thing.
Proof? Of course it does, you absolute ignoramus.

Am I not suppose to debate with the professor? I've been doing it every class :/ .

>>10156546
The pic fucking killed me

>another monday morning in fucking intro to programming
>wunderkind "you can do anything you set your mind to" sitting in the front row again
>being a smart ass again
>interrupts the professor to ask about a "no smoking" sign above the stage
>"No smoking in this building"
>"But professor, isn't smoking banned on the entire campus?"
>"Yes"
>"Then why do we need a sign that says 'no smoking in this building?' isn't that kind of....implied?"
>eyebrow wiggles
>"Just because we imply it doesn't mean you infer it"
>class erupts in reddit whoop whoops
>actually used the word infer dude? holy shit infer???
>smartass vanquished

this is what you get when you go to a state school. This is the intellectual environment you get for thousands of dollars a semester.

>>10159645
>state school
>paying
what

>>10159657

I'm 28 non traditional student I didn't do the fast track national merit scholarship to meme degree helicopter parents thing I took some time outside the daycare zone doing actual lit stuff

>>10159665
But that's not what's confusing, Mr. Chip-on-your-Shoulder. State schools are free. That's the point. Why are you paying?

>>10159614
It's ok, you just look like an autist, waste everyone's time, achieve nothing, and are disliked by everyone including your professor.

>>10159668
>State schools are free.
Not in freedom land

>>10159675
I...what? Are you talking about universities?

What the fuck is the difference between a private and state university?

>>10159679
Are you fucking 12?

>>10159691
I'm not a Burger. Is that really so enraging...?

>>10159671
I am graded for participation in 3 classes, I just assumed that I should for my other 2. That explains why most of the other students are so quiet... I should move to the back.

>>10159700
It's annoying that your don't understand simple concepts and jump to conclusions.

>>10159704
Is this about the chip on your shoulder comment?

>>10159703
Speak up when its appropriate. While there's nothing more annoying than some arrogant fuck face who won't stop harassing the lecturer every five minutes, there's nothing worse than sitting through a tutorial or lecturer where no one is engaging or discussing, especially for the lecturer, but also for the students.

>>10156477
I took a US history class during the 2016 presidential campaign and we started class with a discussion on current events. My professor claimed that Trump wants to deport all Muslims from the USA and I argued against her saying that Trump never said that and that she was mixing up his travel ban and talk on deporting illegals. She didn't agree with me.

>>10159708
Not even the same anon. I just think you're an idiot because you waltzed into a conversation with your underageb&-tier insight, then when corrected you respond as if you knew you were correct instead of bowing out. You should have thought, "clearly I'm ill equipped for your discussion and should leave." Instead you thought, "me smart, me make a point."

>>10159703
/lit/, how do I stop being so autistic? I am irl an aspie, but I wish I could hide it :(

>>10159715
You could just answer my question, you know.

>>10159720
The difference between private and state schools here is the source of their funds afaik, and state schools tend to cost significantly less to attend

>>10159737
How much do private ones cost if state unis are thousands a semester?

>>10158366
Go suck your proff's dick elsewhere

>>10158486
The part about the marine throwing your copy of IJ has me dying, everything after it too
Please save

>>10156631
I think you're a swell guy

>>10156988
Yeah thats pretty much how it went.

>>10158568
Was this at Stoney brook?

>>10159542
Naw you know what fuck you, I'm right you're wrong

>>10158568
What the fuck.. That's crazy. What country was this in?

>>10159921
Except you are wrong.

>>10159927
Lmao whatever you say philosophaggot

>>10159744
Top tier private schools are ~40 and into 50k a year including housing, living, etc.
in-state public school is ~25k

>>10158836
What is so wrong with a generation that grew up in the depression and fought in WW2 coming home and having stability and comfort? Boohoo, the wife stays at home and lives a comfortable life and puts her children above all and before herself. Children actually having breakfast in the morning, a packed lunch for school, and a good meal in the evening? How dreadful! Women should be out flooding the labor market and driving down wages, not being mothers!

Also, a strong family unit was much more common among negroes then. If you were a black child, would you rather have the government taking care your family, or your own father?

And how did that nuclear holocaust turn out?

>>10158623
(((Space Lawyers)))

>>10159553
Like that the founding fathers were smoking weed...

>>10159942
so a masters degree would cost 125k usd?

good job whatever country you're living in

>>10156477
one professor got pissed because i kept leaving his classes

i left once because i was a lazy asshole during my sophomore year. i deserved it

then i left during my senior year during my thesis class because i had a orgo lab to go to. the class for my thesis was rescheduled. he was mad because i didnt critique in my class. i was clearly the best in class but gave up half way and he knew it. called me out for not helping out, but i just left anyway. the class didnt take itself seriously, why should i?

I went to school for something objective, the only reason to go to school, so no I didn't argue with my professors.

Imagine paying 60k for a library pass L O L

>>10160103
Bad bait.

>>10156481
yes i am [retard]

I find if I don't fully understand something, it's better to interject and disagree than to ask a question.
If you ask a question, you usually get some canned response that doesn't actually explain anything and is just designed to shut you up so the class can move on. But if you disagree, lecturers see that as like a personal attack and will jump into action to defend their honour and give you a much more in-depth explanation.

>>10158317
he would be robbed, you would get shot.

>>10156872
> office
> hours

>>10158486

>>10157655
Youngins want to look smart and gain that rep anon.

>>10156477
I had a professor (60yo) yell at me at the end of class for speaking with friends during her lecture. No warning whatsoever. Just came up the auditorium aisle and started screaming at the top of her lungs, turning red as a beet. For some reason she focused on me, even though we had all been talking. I just nodded at her in agreement, didn't say a word, which seemed to anger her further.

In retrospect, I should not have been talking during her lecture. But she handled it like a 12-year-old. Talk about emotional fucking baggage. I eventually dropped that class.

>>10160349
>But if you disagree, people see that as like a personal attack and will jump into action to defend their honour and give you a much more in-depth explanation.

>>10158486
Well done, pleb. I would have laughed.

>>10159499
What is self-defense?

>>10158486
There's no way this actually happened.... no one is actually this autistic

When I was 18, I got yelled at because I was quietly doing math homework in one of the computer labs on an open computer where a class was taking place, bothering no one, except the professor apparently.

He asked me if I was enrolled in his class, to which I innocently replied "no." So he told me to "Get out." Well, he more yelled it like he had just caught me fucking his daughter.

I don't understand people. Such a long time ago but fuck that asshole.

>>10158637
>>10158649
>...
I can hear the incredulous inflection

>>10160604
WOW INSIGHTFUL (O_o)

>>10157297
Living the life, posting in 4chan. I've worked a few years in TV editing and general postproduction before changing career because that went nowhere, so I switched career to focus on writing. Be aware that a lot of film schools don't prepare you to work in the real world at all. I was lucky to find something right after graduating, but a lot of other people I knew took a lot longer. Be sure to work on your own stuff and don't just focus on getting perfect grades. By all means be the best student you can be, etc., just make sure that you work on as many projects as you can to build your resume and a portfolio, and to understand what's actually possible, depending on your location and situation, once you get out of there. Good luck.

My Logic 101 professor used the "Socrates is mortal" syllogism as a basic model of deductive logic and he would reference it whenever he needed to explain a concept in a little more detail. Every single fucking time the professor would bring it up, the same guy would raise his hand to argue that the syllogism isn't sound because the name "Socrates" doesn't necessarily refer to a man and therefore the premise "Socrates is a man" isn't necessarily true.

I attempted to debate my grade with a professor and she yelled at me. I wasn't even being disrespectful or anything, I just thought that I did the things required and tried to explain it to her.

I had just transferred from a college in Hawaii, and it was my first semester at UNF. Suffice it to say this even set the stage for the rest of my time here. Certainly an interesting change in... values.

>Undergraduate Crim workshop
>Small groups of like 12 first year students
>Led by a phd qt who just needs teaching credits to get funding
>Most people don't engage and just want their attendance mark
>Teacher is naive and unironic prison absolutionist
>Take my opportunity week in week out to disagree or play devil's advocate
>She is begrudgingly impressed at first
>Weeks go on I feel she wants the Dennis
>Class is meant to bring about discussion and lead us to alternative discourses
> Still the only one who speaks she begins to rely on my responses to get through class
>One week she stops me mid argument about why hate crime legislation is problematic because policing motivation behind acts is unethical
>Refuses to let me finish
>Abstain from class discussion for remainder of class
>As we all leave she asks me to stay behind
>Don't really want to argue just want to go eat
>She apologises and explains she enjoys my input in class and hope she hasn't upset me and looks forward to seeing me next week
Fast forward to the end of year
>Papers anonymously submitted but not anonymously marked (you have access to initials)
>She knows my topic and I see her initials (they were uncommon)
>78%
>First baby
>Decide to help her out for her master's and get interviewed on sexual harassment on campus
>Adamantly make a stand against universities taking punitive action against alleged rapists and stay it's entirely the job of the CJS to deal with this
>She thanks me at the end and explains it was hard to get any participants never mind males
>Come from same part of UK (small town)
>She asks if I'm going home for Christmas and if I'm going to local night club on Christmas eve (local thing)
>Play cool say unless I get s better offer I'll see you there
>Don't go because it's fucking Christmas and I see my family twice a year
>Final year still see her around she always comes and asks me how I'm getting on

>>10160919
I was reading ,hoping for an actual ending, but the only thing relevant here seems to be that you interacted with a qt and she is somehow sympathetic with you. Great story, mate

>>10156477
Not "argued", exactly; but I once met a guy who told me he was a literature professor in an airport bar. Both our flights were delayed several hours and we got down to some pretty heavy "sups from the 'dive bouteille' as he put it." As we got tighter, he wouldn't stop going on about Shakespeare this, Shakespeare that, and I finally snapped and said, "Jesus fuck!, Hal, I mean: Harold," - he mumbled, "Call me whatever, I don't [inaudible]." - "Don't you ever just think Shakespeare's kinda, you know, bullshit? Yeah?" He said, "I know what you mean. So good to get that off my chest."

>>10156597
the whole 'shutting down' thing really makes dealing with a lot of situations easier though, gotta admit

I did, with my Literature professor, because she was dumb as all hell. Once claimed Nazis invented antisemitism.

>>10159507
>Jihadist's own westernisation
>Crusades were so cool dude but also hell but also cool
Literally cannot for the life of me picture a jihadist saying or thinking anything of the sort, where do YOU get this from?

>>10160919
>didn't feed her the dingle
7/10 story

>>10156581
Tim Ferris? He uses almost the exact same example in one of his books. Right down to the innocence factor. Exhaust them so extremely and innocently that they think twice about marking you down next time.

>>10158486

>>10157049
>especially considering that the conflict in the middle east is pretty tame compared to what war was like in the middle ages.

this claim is just as baseless as the one you're criticising, try not to be a hypocrite in future

>>10156620

Why do you think the aggression displayed by Muslims in their conquests was unprecedented or exceptional?

>>10160919
>This PhD wanted my freshman D
Is this what kids actually believe?

>>10158482
my nigga Ben blazin when he not plowin french fields, no what im talking bout

>>10156546
They're putting chemicals in the textbooks that turns the fricking students gay!

>>10156840
He's the professor we don't deserve, but the one we need right now

>>10156581
I like this.

>>10158486
>then SMACK! i had another copy of Infinite Jest in my backpack. I was SO proud of this

>>10160919
Nice build up but the ending was limp dick

>>10158486

>>10161368
this was the only time he's talked to a human female so how would he know?

>>10156953
>first one
feels good man

>second one
Not a single person pointed out the degree to which the both of you were stipulating your own conclusions? Prof should have just said "well for the sake of discussion, this is what i'm referring to when I use the word 'words'," and left it at that. Should have been a fifteen-second exchange.

>not allowing any element to move fluidly between signifier and referent roles

>>10160431
>prof lists office hours
>it's one hour
>"""hours"""

>>10156477
Argued with a theology professor over which Star Wars movie is the best. He said Phantom Menace, I said Empire.

>>10156546
goos meme

>>10159994
>negroes

I like how you tried not to sound like a racist faggot and still managed to.

>>10158486
They must've been actually terrified of you. Like one of these days instead of a book he's gonna pull out a glock

>>10161668
>Phantom menace
I knew it, theologians have been full of shit since Luther

>>10156494
>mfw argue with professors during class to cause a scene and to grandstand rather than to make point
pshht... nothin' personal, prof....

>>10156477
>Have you ever argued with a professor? How'd it go?
No, what's there to be gained from it? I walk into, and out of, every class knowing I'm above it and the professor. There's nothing to be gained from trying to uplift them except difficulty.

>Be Me
>Have attended several schools and left for various reasons related to health or quality of education
>Already have a low level degree in my field
>Decide to try to go back to a school that at one point was considered one of the best in art
>Take some foundational classes at a satellite campus to test out the quality of education at a lower cost
>4.0 average for two semesters and decide the quality is alright, not as good as what I was getting at a strict art school but pretty good for a state university
>first semester on main campus taking Intro to Design
>Covering Gestalt Principles
>Have covered this shit a minimum of 5 times throughout my education
>Get to "saturation"
>Teacher states "Saturation is of light"
>Damn near shit my pants with rage
>Everything goes red
>It's like everything just stood still as I turned my head up from my notes and just stared at her like she was a complete idiot.
>FYI Saturation is a property of the intensity of color. It is only transitively a property of light. You will get higher saturation colors if you are in a better lit are in only two practices Photography and Videography.
>Decide to politely disagree
>I say "If I'm correct saturation is a property of color"
>Teacher loses her shit, starts verbally attacking me.
>I've been in school too long for some half rate failed graphic designer to berate me over information they're wrong about.
>Stand up, pack my shit up and walk out of class
>Go straight to her boss
>Meeting with foundations head and he states that "Yes, you are correct, it is a property of color not of light and I don't know why she stated that."
>foundations head then says "But it's her class and you have to learn it the way she's teaching it."
>Pack up my shit and never return to campus.

>>10161828
I was hoping this would be funny but it was just cathartic

>>10158486
Someone save this for /lit/ humorthreads

>>10161855
ALREADY DONE

>>10156872
Except there are lots of other people in the room and we want to hear the professor, not some idiot student.

>>10161828
Proud of your conviction if true

>>10161828
>tfw constantly confronted with the fact my education is both subpar and not useful
>spent 5 years and 50,000$ in loans anyway to stall joining the workforce
I wish I had your strength anon

Well i remember one time when i felt like i was actually pretty close to argue with my philosophy professor but eventually it went just fine

>In philosophy
>Professor asks me about the concept of evil
>Put on the spot, start panicking but remember a certain quote from The Witcher books
>"Evil is Evil. Lesser, greater, middling… Makes no difference. The degreee is arbitary. The definition’s blurred. If I’m to choose between one evil and another… I’d rather not choose at all"
>Professor looks stunned, class gives me a round of applause

>>10162000
kek, it's like that time Zizek quoted from Morrowind

>>10156477
I forced my sociology professor to acknowledge that if causality is 100% in control on the micro level then it is necessarily the same on a macro level. Gained her respect.

>>10156709
got a massive kick out of this reply

>tfw you get into an argument over outlines with a public speaking professor
I've made too big a deal to back out now.

>>10160750
>interesting change in... values
Yeah not used to randomly assaulting haoles and smoking meth?

I have an upcoming interview for an assistant professorship, and it's the attitude throughout this thread that makes me question going the academic route. College is officially high school 2.0 for many kids, and they go into it not to learn and acquire employable skills, but to be little self-entitled rebels railing against a system they are voluntarily paying to be a part of.

Profs aren't your parents, your high school teachers, or symbols of authority to fight against any chance you get. Most people who go to college should work a few years so they gain maturity and become more focused, then enrol.

>>10158486
hahaha I don't even care if it's fake

>>10161828
>Think you're the shit even though you've dropped out of literally every place you've been and have never held a job in the field
>Argue with someone when they say something completely accurate
>Go full autist
lmao@u

>>10162284
test

Obviously professors can be unprofessional, so it's good that students monitor them - even if rebellious attitude is not justified and may be a bit infantile, it's a fine bullshit-test.

>>10158486
very funny

>>10162145
Please quote him that sounds funny as fuck.

>zizek
>vivec
Hmmmm

>>10162284
Professors also aren't there to educate you. They are the agents of a system of exploitation, whose process is tedious, perfunctory, and whose value is only in the form of a degree come the end. Why shouldn't you fuck with the faculty every chance you get? It changes nothing, and it breaks the monotony of being held hostage for some arbitrary qualification.
>hahaha you choose to be there
You do realize the most harassed professors also 'choose' to be there in spite of this, yes?

>>10162557
I made this meme a while ago

>>10162557

>>10162575
>DVD Games
I know when I get old I'm gonna have faux pas like this, but god damn

>>10162565
WEW LAD

>English class
>Complete all work and do extra curricular research and writing
>No marks or evaluation for 2 months of course work, ask teacher how I'm doing
>Your responses are scholarly anon, but you once submitted an assignment that was almost late
>Formatting error on website project, receive a failing grade, fix error, request reevaluation, returned again with same grade
>lost interest, didn't write mid-term, applying for concession on medical grounds (muh autism)

Have been pursuing this for nearly 3 months now. Talked to English department about it, nothing happened, wrote a letter to Dean, they sent me back to the English department. Have a meeting with department head next monday. Everyone I explain this to says "so?". Should I let sleeping dogs lie, continue pursuing this or find his car and slash his tires?

>>10162565
You're an absolute moron

>>10162575
context plz

>>10157029
>modern terrorist organizations basically invented these things
What scares me is that I know you, and many other people like you, believe this.

>>10158451
>>Says that hemp was made illegal because white people thought that when women smoked it, it made them want to fuck black people
This was actually a very real sentiment used in the criminalizing of recreational weed smoking.

>>10162587
>implying it's not true
I make a point of stealing, graffitizing, littering, and damaging anything I can while at school. I spend every day thinking about burning it down while waiting for the bus. If it weren't so logistically impossible (too many large buildings to hit at once) I'd probably try it.

>>10162715
8/10 bait

>>10162715
I used to have a similar mentality but eventually realized it was a shitty thing to do for no reason
>taking a dump at uni
>decide to flush the entire roll of toilet paper
>forget to wipe before I do
>other stall occupied by someone smoking pot
>debate using my notes
>try
>it's fucking awful
>travel to the other side of wing feeling sticky and gross to find somewhere to wipe my ass
>fee everyone staring at my strained gait and wonder if they can smell me
>new bathroom both stalls occupied
>spend like 10 pretending to wash my hands waiting evertime someone enters
>finally.png
>feel insanely happy and relieved as I navigate my crevasse
>sit down in class later and realize shit flecks still on underwear

>>10162752
the fuck

>>10162756
haha holy hell I forgot what board this was a for a second

>>10162571
Dog bless :D :D

>>10162575
I'm legit pissed. How do you fuck up like that?

>>10162565
t. highschool dropout

>>10162787
Yeah, I'm sure what motivates your professor to get up in the morning and commute to work is the earnest fulfillment of his duty to enlighten the next education

>>10162762
>>10162756
what was it

>>10162715
I used to have a similar mentality but eventually realized it was a shitty thing to do for no reason
>taking a dump at uni
>decide to flush the entire roll of toilet paper
>forget to wipe before I do
>other stall occupied by someone smoking pot
>debate using my notes
>try
>it's fucking awful
>travel to other side of wing feeling sticky and gross to find somewhere to wipe my ass
>feel everyone staring at my strained gait and wonder if they can smell me
>new bathroom both stalls occupied
>spend like 10 mins waiting pretending to wash my hands evertime someone enters
>finally.png
>feel insanely happy and relieved as I navigate my crevasse
>sit down in class later and realize shit flecks still on underwear

>>10162812
Or perhaps its their research? What else would it be? If you say money you're an idiot; there's far easier ways to make 50-70k a year besides doing a phd.

I got into arguments with plenty of people, including the teacher, in a Political and Legal Studies class I took in 2016/17. But the teacher lived for that stuff, so it was cool. He was always more than happy to give his opinion on the news, and his biases bled into our assignments rather profusely. So it was all cool. Things could get really heated, but still civil.

>>10163393
No? That suggests these people have some kind of talent or competence, if they did they wouldn't be teaching. The best professor I ever had was just doing it on the side while running his own business, it was clear how little he cared but his actual familiarity with the material came through (this was a programming course).

The career professors? Dreadful know-nothings.

>>10163540
Wew lad
I haven't seen posts this delusional since I last went on /pol/

>>10162588
Pls respond

>>10163562
t. brainwashed liberal

>>10161775

All my anger

>>10163940
>>>/pol/
You don't even have a coherent position here.

>>10163562
Those who can do, anon. Those who can't teach. Those who can't even do that I suppose...defend the inept on a Mongolian basket weaving forum with unsubstantiated outrage. Oh, you find my post offensive? How fucking convincing a rebuttal.

>>10163540
I don't think you actually made it to high-school. Did your mommy pull you out of school when the test results came in and they were all Fs to save you from further humiliation?

>>10156805

good shit

>>10163962
>since I last went on /pol/
> >/pol/

>>>/pol/

>>10157101

do people on this board read negarestani?

i'm new and have just used his arguments in debates before

>>10164132
>ad hominem
lmao you're not a teacher are you anon? Not a...gym teacher, surely?

>>10164224
>actually getting triggered by teachers
>hating on teachers as a group
>hating the very idea of education

This is some yet-unheard-of form of autism holy shet.

>>10164285
you're confusing education with education
school is a thing worthy of hate

>>10163562
>>10163962
>everyone I don't like is a nazi: the poster

>>10161775
Anon...

>>10156778
Underrated

>>10162812
>Yeah, I'm sure what motivates your professor to get up in the morning and commute to work is the earnest fulfillment of his duty to enlighten the next education
For most profs, at least in STEM, they are motivated first and foremost by research. Teaching upper-level undergrad and grad courses can be fulfilling, having good grad students is great, etc., but for the most part teaching the younger students is basically the pain-in-the-ass part of their job. That's why younger or less-productive profs typically teach the first and second year courses - that responsibility is pawned off on them.

The fact that you didn't even consider research as a major part of a prof's responsibilities makes me think you are some social sciences dropout or sour grapes kid without post-secondary degree(s). Judging by your post, you are quite immature for whatever your age might be.

>>10164095
>Those who can do, anon. Those who can't teach. Those who can't even do that I suppose...defend the inept on a Mongolian basket weaving forum with unsubstantiated outrage. Oh, you find my post offensive? How fucking convincing a rebuttal.
You do realize profs spend most of their time doing research, right? Where do you think most research is conducted?

I don't think you really know what you are talking about, you are just spouting generic outsider remarks about "hurrr ivory tower academia".

>>10165690
>>10165699
most research is worthless and masturbatory pretext

>>10162869
kek, 2nd best story so far