/lit/ - Literature

>>23259217
Sure, I got you :3
>How To Read a Book - Mortimer Adler [1940 version is better]
>Иcкyccтвo лoгики. Кaк читaть книги - Cepгeй Иннoкeнтьeвич Пoвapнин (if you know Russian)
>Reading Like a Writer: A Guide for People Who Love Books and For Those Who Want to Write Them - Francine Prose

>The Trivium
>A Mind for Numbers: How to Excel at Math and Science - Barbara Oakley
>The Elements of Style - WIlliam Strunk Jr. and E. B. White
>The Oxford’s Essential Guide to Writing - Thomas S. Kane
>Gorgias - Plato
>Poetics - Aristotle
>Rhetoric - Aristotle
>The Organon - Aristotle
>Brill’s Companion to Cicero, Oratory and Rhetoric - Edited by James M. May
>An Introduction to English Grammar - Sidney Greenbaum & Gerald Nelson
>Understanding English Grammar: A Linguistic Perspective - T. E. Payne
>Creative & Critical Thinking - W. Edgar Moore
>An Introduction to Logic - Irving Copi
>Logic as a Liberal Art: An Introduction to Rhetoric & Reasoning - R. E. Houser
>The Categories - Aristotle
>An Advanced English Grammar - Kittredge
>The Chicago Guide to Grammar, Usage, and Punctuation - Garner
>Oedipus Tyrannus - Sophocles
>The Interpretation of Dreams - Freud
>The Birth of Tragedy - Friedrich Nietzsche
>Socratic Logic - Peter Kreeft
>The Elements of Eloquence: How to Turn the Perfect English Phrase - Mark Forsyth
>Classical English Style - Ward Farnsworth
>Classical English Metaphor - Ward Farnsworth
>Classical English Rhetoric - Ward Farnsworth
>Classical Rhetoric for the Modern Student - Edward P. J. Corbett
>Cicero de Oratore - Marcus Jullius Cicero
>Quintilian’s “Institutio Oratoria” - Loeb Classical Library, translated by H. E. Butler

Is this chart legit? What exactly am I going to take away from this? Just looks like meta-learning stuff but I think I’ve already absorbed most of this implicitly and don’t need it laid out. And do people really still need to read whole books about grammar and how to form sentences properly?

>>22970312
22970312
The Trivium is a good start. ideally for a non-native speaker you want to star with An Introduction to English Grammar by Sidney Greenbaum & Gerald Nelson then How to Read a Book by Mortimer J. Adler. both are 300 pages each and are really good
and for philosophy you want to start with an academic but brief works on the philosopher you want to learn about before the philosopher's own works

>>21725737
very nice

>>21565279
save it as a .jpg you mong. it actually looks more fleshed out than this one.

>>21470748
https://4chanlit.fandom.com/wiki/Charts
The /lit/ wiki has a lot of good information in general but this page specifically has a ton of charts to help guide you. I like pic rel specifically for beginners.

>>20883856
Start with the Trivium.

>>20487768
Not an English major but I found that revelation both astounding and somewhat of a relief at the same time. It explained quite a lot. The sad thing is that it took half a decade after reading John Taylor Gatto for it to really click that even I was 99% uneducated after completing two bachelors degrees.

Now that I'm retired I have more time to dedicate to proper education but I'm doing a tour of Europe first.

>>20325584
>>20325529
The failure is that he doesn't understand grammar at all, because he thinks punctuation is there to tell you when to breathe while speaking rather than a way to organize a sentence to convey information. He will likely never be able to write properly and is now doomed to be perceived as unintelligent or lower class for the rest of his life. The effort it would take him to learn grammar now, after having been taught wrong, is great and he's very unlikely to put in that effort since he's cleared the extremely low bar of "I kinda understand what he means".

He'd be just as intelligible if he removed all punctuation other than periods, because they don't actually mean anything to him anyways.

Pic related, download classical music (and listen to it) and then just go to nearby fine art museums.

If you're really hardcore you'll learn ancient greek and latin, read the classics in the original, and then go to Oxford and get a degree in classics.

>>19739821
Unironically, the trivium. Read deeply and slowly, and most of all, practice what you are taught.

Which retard made this reading guide? The Trivium involves the study of Latin and Greek grammar, not English grammar.

Bumping

It's weird that some people used to spend several years in dedicated schools studying nothing but Latin, logic and rhetoric, i.e. the Trivium, and today it's just a few books.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trivial_school
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_school
Here in Sweden there are still a number of schools called "Latin" something, but they're regular brainwashing institutions today, and you can bet the goys there don't learn a word of Latin.

>>19554694
this?

Hey bros, I’m trying to become well rounded in most subjects. any reading lists, websites, or resources you guys can share? I don’t need to know everything about every subject, but In the next 5 years I want to be able to know a good amount about most of the subjects I’ve read about. I have a lot of time to listen to audiobooks/podcasts/lectures because of my job. I’m probably gonna start with picrel, and I’ve already read a good amount of content (familiar with most of Western philosophy, raised Catholic so I’m familiar with the Christian tradition, and I’ve always been a decent student of history so I have some knowledge in that area), but I want to know all that I can. I was thinking of doing it like this:
History
Liberal Arts
Philosophy
Politics and economics
Theology
Science
Math
Art/culture
Cultures of the world
Literature

Would studying this reading list actually be useful? I have the time to do so and I feel like my education wasn't the best and that my fundamentals aren't good (despite going to a good private school). I don't feel like I retain any of the information I learn also.

I really like the idea of ‘learning how to learn’ and then of course applying those lessons to later studies.

If you study, not just read these you'll probably be a better writer