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>Everything in the universe is mechanistic since it's all ultimately based on the expression of the laws of physics.
Life is an intelligent, mind-like process. Through homeorhesis, Gaia regulates itself. Organisms are analogous to indeterministic holons, which are both parts and wholes at once, and merge to generate semi-autonomous systems. In much the same way that eukaryotic cells are already ecological communities, the distinction between organisms and their environment is blurred.
I recommend reading Biocivilizations by Predrag B. Slijepčević. Presently, life is fundamentally autopoietic ("self-making") whereas tech is currently allopoeitic ("other-making"). Moreover, life is more fluid and structurally coupled with its environment like a "holon" as previously described. Gaia is like sculptor making itself. Life is based on anticipatory systems whereas present cybernetic DL models are more I/O models based on Bayesian statistics. Here is a professionally written review on Biocivilizations:

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/5761296121

Predrag has a PhD, and it is well-written, combining Alfred N. Whitehead's philosophy beautifully with evolutionary biology. I consider it as an evolution of Klages' thought on Geist vs. Seele sort of.
>It's the case for all life, just because it's generally balanced in its competition does not mean the fundamental nature is different.
Symbiosis is the primary driver of evolution's biodiversity whereas competition is the secondary characteristic emerging from multicellular organisms.
>Saying there's a deeper mystery just means you don't understand it enough, not that it cannot be understood and quantified.
There is a deeper ontological** mystery when viewed from a panpsychist perspective. That would take longer to get into, but I recommend David Skrbina's works. One powerful argument against it is Kastrup's "Analytic Idealism" though.

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>Actually without natural selection.
The primary driver of evolution is symbiosis and not natural selection. Natural selection is secondary and applies more to multicellular organisms and, thereby, increasing reproductive fitness. The first eukaryote emerged from endosymbiosis/symbiogenesis of one bacteria devouring another (or virus), and this led to a cascade of novel symbiotic events that eventually yielded multicellular organisms.
Life is an autopoietic system ("self-making"), even the human body's cellular relations (or the gut-brain axis) can be said to exist in relatively persistent symbiosis, thereby yielding the organism.
Mankind, however, no longer exists in symbiosis with the Earth due to mechanization.
Other systems, such as physics or a car produced in an assembly line, are allopoetic ("other-making"), so life and the mechanistic world are two different orders of logic.
>There's a difference between cults and religions, that's why there are different words for them
Abrahamism is a cult that can't even accept basic facts like how human beings are primates.

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The primary driver of evolution is symbiosis and not natural selection. Natural selection is secondary and applies more to multicellular organisms and their competition for resources. The first eukaryote emerged from endosymbiosis/symbiogenesis of one bacteria devouring another (or virus), and this led to a cascade of novel symbiotic events that eventually yielded multicellular organisms.
Life is an autopoietic system ("self-making"), even the human body's cellular relations (or the gut-brain axis) can be said to exist in relatively persistent symbiosis, thereby yielding the organism.
Mankind, however, no longer exists in symbiosis with the Earth due to mechanization.
Other systems, such as physics or a car produced in an assembly line, are allopoetic ("other-making"), so life and the mechanistic world are two different orders of logic.

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