/lit/ - Literature

>>20802242
>When a dilettante has done what lies within his capacity to complete a work, he usually makes the excuse that of course it's as yet unfinished. Clearly, it never can be finished because it was never properly started. The master of his art, by means of a few strokes, produces a finished work; fully worked out or not, it is already completed. The cleverest kind of dilettante gropes about in uncertainties and, as the work proceeds, the dubiousness of the initial structure becomes more and more apparent. Right at the end the faulty nature of the work, impossible to correct, shows up clearly and so, of course, the work can never be finished.

>>19670659
>I think they NOT being womanizers is more like the rule than the exception throughout history,
Not really.

>>19556567
Coleridge, Kaufmann > the rest

>>19556763
I was thinking the same.

>>19556733
I see no need for the revision honestly; Garnett reads very well. I read McDuff first so his C&P will always have a special place for me, but P&V are simply the best (stay away from their Tolstoy translations!), alongside Garnett.

>>19556783
Interesting

>>19107045
>>romanticism = dominated by the english
Yikes bro, the Germans had at least a 20 year head start on the English in Romanticism. And they're easily their equals, if not very likely their superiors in Romanticism.

>>symbolism/decadentism = dominated by the french
Wagner was at the heart of symbolism and can be considered its creator (again the Germans come first).

>>modernism = dominated by the portuguese*
This is just retarded, the most prominent modernist authors are English, American, Irish, German, French, Italian and so on, before you come to Portugal.

Anyone have the quote by Goethe saying the Nibelungenlied is equally a classic as Homer?

>>18421011
Germany conquers all.

>parzival
>goethe
>meme shit like mann
>that's about it
Why is german literature so shit?

>>16087353
>Goethe's writing is best when he isn't distracted by hebephil "every girl i meet loves me" pussy chasing or nobility ass kissing.
It sounds like you have a serious inferiority complex anon, if anything one should appreciatively laugh at the comical idiosyncrasy of this great figure and his thought, in his work. Besides, Goethe looks to the nobility to represent what was recognised by Plato most efficiently, a natural hierarchical difference in nature, to represent his Ideal of it. In part he believes the way it was in real life at that time was like this, that obviously aristocrats would have been more intelligent(I can tell you that Goethe would have had much engagement with Peasants), as well as recognising that in real life at that time anyhow it was not entirely like that but that these social conditions existed and he acted that way as they are, and how he would want to be.

You can be against a strict Aristocracy in society, but it's not necessarily a bad thing, and has rather been proved to be a naturally good thing. Though the idea is that there may be a better.

>>15466196
>In fact most writers start later in their lives.

>>15454708
>Also, the poet is for now the only one who can make something out of the nihilism and current situation of our world. So we must return to his verses as well.
I'm sorry mate, I tried but it's almost impossible in our nihilistic age. Both the poet and thinker are dead. We can only poetise and think in our own person to get through the current landscape, through a "beaten track", but no great genius poet, a Hero-poet can arise today.

You've bargained with the devil haven't you Mishima. HAVEN'T YOU!?

>>14863166
Looks like I failed, nah you're gay HAHAHA!

How does it feel to know that you're all technically midwits in the eyes of Goethe?

Beauty.

>*is the greatest poet both of our age and all time*

>>14368294
1. German/Latin
2. English
3. Italian
4. Russian
5. Ancient Greek
6. Sanskrit
7. French(, I guess)
8. Hebrew
9. Japanese
10. The lumping together of whatever pre-modern Chinese languages there were

Irrefutable.

>>14313905
The only thing greater in philosophy than the joy of being successfully refuted in an argument is the joy of having an argument be ignored entirely. Fite me.

>>14189827
In regards to personality, morphology both plays a role in character, but also does not. As if shaping what is already there, or perhaps what is already there shaping the latter morphological character, whatever it is there is much interplay.

>>14158754
I can understand poetry, it's by no means my favourite art as I think it correlates to a more feminine nature and that necessarily infers either by birth or the maturity of age. As far as I know I currently hold neither.

So I am wondering just as one must apply the conscious structures in reaction to the unconscious aesthetic to all art forms; the understanding of polyphony within music for example, or seeing how the paint interacts in such a way to present the literal dogma in a symbolic order, the sense-of-form with sculpture as third example. These I all know, but the meter of poetry I know nothing of consciously, and it is something I am in need of doubly so for poetry, as I said before and shall say again, is not an art I have a natural resonance with.

Anyone please halp? To be fair also I have not read too much poetry.

>>14110693
I thought he was handsome
yes
no
I guess he doesn't like me
I'm too
special to eat chinese guess

life: and
that is so.

>>14018398
>i have arrived...