/lit/ - Literature

>>23001338
*PISS BE UPON EVOLA

>>22552056
causally retroactively refuted by guenon

>retroactively refutes the is-ought gap

I'm a retroactive refutation machine
Ripping apart theories like they're made of thin paper seams
An autodidact with a brain that's keen
Guenon's my name, I'll make sure your illusions are destroyed like a bad dream
I don't need Nietzsche or Whitehead to pave my way
I've got the wisdom of the ancients to guide me every day
Hylics beware, I'll expose your materialistic play
Like Parmenides, I'll show you the way of the true ray
Shankaracharya's teachings are my compass, my guide
I'll take you to the path of realization, no need to hide
Don't get me wrong, I'm not addicted to opium or any other drug
But my love for the traditional path is unshakeable like a bug

Chorus:
Fuck degeneracy, Allah be praised
Ibn Arabi's teachings will forever be engraved
In my mind, in my heart, in my soul
I'll keep spreading the trad and make sure the truth is told

I don't care for theosophy, it's all just a shallow ruse
Their New Age nonsense is just a way to confuse
But I'm not one to be amused, I'll break it down and refuse
To let their delusions spread, no need to be obtuse
I'll show you the way of the true, the way of the light
The way of the timeless and the way that's right
My Guenonfag screencap collection is just the start
I'll make sure to tear apart any theories that aren't on the right chart
I'll never falter, my faith is strong
I'll keep spreading the word, all day and all night long

Chorus:
Fuck degeneracy, Allah be praised
Ibn Arabi's teachings will forever be engraved
In my mind, in my heart, in my soul
I'll keep spreading the trad and make sure the truth is told

Guenon's my name, and I'm here to stay
I'll keep spreading the traditional way
No matter what the pseuds may say
My mission is clear, and I won't stray

Discord server for civil discussions relating to metaphysics, religion, Guenon and similar:
https://discord.gg/hPvQCmx62f

>The modern world is shit

>>21368774
Start with Multiple States of the Being, Intro. to the Hindu Doctrines, or Man and his Becoming.

To understand the doctrine of the multiplicity of the states of the being, it is necessary before considering anything else to return to the most primordial notion of all, that of metaphysical Infinity, evisaged in its relationship with universal Possibility. The Infinite, according to the etymology of the term which designates it, is that which has no limits; and if we are to preserve this word in its strict sense we must rigorously limit its use to the designation of that which has absolutely no limits whatsoever, excluding here everything that only escapes from certain particular limiting conditions while remaining subject to other limitations by virtue of its very nature, in which these limitations are essentially inherent - as, from the logical point of view which simply translates in its fashion the point of view that can be called "ontological", are those elements implicated in the very definition of the things in question. As we have already mentioned on many occasions, these latter include number, space, and time, even in the most general and extended conceptions we can possibly form of them, which far exceed our ordinary notions;* all of this can really only be in the domain of the indefinite. It is to the indefinitude, when it is of a quantitative order as in the examples just mentioned, that some people improperly apply the term "mathematical infinity", as if adding a fixed epithet or qualification to the world "infinity" did not itself imply a contradiction pure and simple. In fact, this indefinitude, proceeding from the finite of which it is only an extension or development (and therefore always reducible to the finite), has no common measure with the true Infinite, any more than an individuality, human or otherwise, even considered in the integrality of the indefinite prolongations of which it is capable, can ever be commensurate with the total being. This formation of the indefinite from the finite, of which we have a very clear example in the production of the series of numbers, is only possible on condition that the finite already contain the indefinite potentially, and even were teh limits extended so far as to be lost sight, so to speak - that is , to the point at which they escape our ordinary means of measurement - they certainly are not abolished thereby; by reason of the very nature of the causal relation it is quite obvious that the "greater" cannot come from the "lesser", nor the Infinite from the finite.

*It should be observed that we are careful to say 'general' and not 'universal', for here it is nothing more than a question of the particular conditions of certain states of existence, which should suffice to show that there is no question of infinity since these conditions are obviously as limited as the states to which they apply, and which they help to define.

>It may be remarked incidentally that the contentions of philosophers are often much more justifiable when they are arguing against other philosophers than when they pass on to expound their own views, and as each one generally sees fairly clearly the defects of the others, they more or less destroy one another mutually. Thus it is that Bergson, if one takes the trouble to rectify his mistakes in terminology, gives a good demonstration of the faults of rationalism (which, so far from being one with 'intellectualism', is on the contrary its negation) and of the insufficiences of reason, but he is no less wrong in his own turn when, to fill the gap thus created, he probes the 'infra-rational' instead of lifting his gaze towards the 'supra-rational' (and this is why his philosophy is just as individualistic and ignores the supra-individual order just as completely as that of his rivals).

>>20012123
>If it be argued that war itself is also a disorder, this is true in a certain respect, and even necessarily true by the very fact that war is waged in the world of manifestation and multiplicity. But it is a disorder intended to balance another disorder, and according to the teaching of the Far Eastern tradition, previously mentioned, it is the sum of all disorders or disequilibriums that constitutes the total order. Furthermore, order only appears when a standpoint is taken that is above multiplicity and from which things are no longer seen in isolation and "distinctively", but in their essential unity. This is the standpoint of reality, for apart from its principle multiplicity has only an illusory existence ; but that illusion, with the disorder inherent in it, endures for every being so long as he has not arrived in a fully effective manner (and not merely theoretically) at this standpoint of the "unity of Existence" (Wahdat al-wujūd) in all the modes and degrees of universal manifestation.

>Accordingly, the end of war is the establishment of peace, for peace, even taken its most ordinary sense, is ultimately nothing else but order, equilibrium or harmony.

Rene Guenon, Symbolism of the Cross, pg 50

>>16178558
Guenon's reading of the world would be that it is a rather chaotic and haphazard place, but in this chaos there are patterns. These patterns comprise the human experience and therefore can produce knowledge about the flow of time - history, memory, action, thought and so on.
The experience of the human world is that it is not a static, immobile place. Instead it is in constant flux, and many patterns appear within this flux.
The flux can be understood as the evolution of consciousness. This aspect is often overlooked in that it is like a wave, with an individual moment of consciousness followed by another and another.
Life is a photograph of the passage of time, and this photo can be dissected into many moments. Only by observing each moment in isolation from another moment does a static picture emerge - the illusion that life is static.
The self is a momentary experience of consciousness, with no permanent substance - just like water. Water has many forms and states but it cannot be plucked out from its wave; the wave moves on and takes the water with it.
Water is the perfect metaphor for the self. It is always flowing and it will never be pinned down. Even if one were to freeze water, all that would result in a momentary state of being.

HAHAHA THE BUTTERFLY FAGGOT IS GONE

>>15126905
Maybe, but unlike you, he had sex.

lmao, this balding retard (he's only 49 but looks 69) did a 12 part video series attacking Guenon's (pbuh) ideas.

The core of his argument comes down to this:
>liberalism/the modern west is good because it makes people individuals
>each individual now creates their own metaphyiscs
>this is good because we get lots of material things

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv9WK89p_60

>>14693579
*refuted, retroactively*

>>14684737
Yes.

For me? The Platonic Ideal of Womanhood itself of course.

>>14653259
Based thread, brother.
>>14653312
Based refutation of the animalistic Anglo by Shaykh René Guénon (pbuh).
>>14653339
>>14653352
>philosophy
>emasculation
>serrano
>Nietzschean
Retroactively refuted by Shaykh René Guénon (pbuh).