/lit/ - Literature

>>21506228
Well again these are colloquialisms which are dependent on the original Latin; Fasces, those redefinition or reinterpretations of 'deeper meaning' are local and peripheral to the Latin, which is still Fasces.

>Americans like democratic Roman fascism in opposition to the state church
True, true, there is a statue of G. Wasington dressed as Constantine. I think there was some element of redefining this as 'bad' when the Germans began to take it up as a symbol of democratic nationalism, so the Fasces became considered again (probably through heavy advertising spin) as "bad, toady, weak ganging up on the strong," and it kind of always was that... to some extent anyway, given its origin in the roman republic against the roman kings.

>Arguing middle English wanted to be democratic is a bizarre oversimplification
The Fasces existed in the culture of the 1700's and 1600's renaissances as a symbol of actual democracy and enlightened attitudes, there is a painting I'll link of (i forget, maybe mary astell or damaris masham) a "proto-feminist" holding a little red book with a fasces on it, for instance - so it wasn't the 20th century alone that knew about the 'unity' aspects of the thing,

I mean here: that the 'positive' meaning of Fasces existed first of all and was probably, then, associated with black propaganda to make it seem like "homo nazi" as it's in that era that the term fagging/fagged/faggot became popular to describe the authoritarian bully type of behavior, and it was said to relate to the Fasces stick-bundle.

We often forget that the Nazis were widely disparaged as being full on homosexuals during the war lol

>>20986963
>Wollstonecraft (1792)
also Mary Astell as well as Damaris. I forgot to say Astell yesterday, >>20984984
>Damaris Masham, "thoughts on the christian or virtuous life,"for the original purpose and function and case for Female Advancement.

>Lady Damaris Masham in the (1600/1700's) "on the vertuous (or christian) life," on the need of women to be educated as their education as being mothers and stewards of the house is more important given their vital station in parenting the children and managing the household.

>The burping and monkey-swaggering woman who lowers herself to emulate a common drunkard is the exact opposite of this.

>There are others, Mary Astell springs to mind, but Damaris was the first. Coincidentally one of the first humans, regardless of sex, to write logically and rationally about the Virtues, without fraudulent appeals to religion, probably since the Roman Republic.

I said this on anther smiliar "best feminist authors" thread but, you know what, I don't think anybody actually knows who Damaris even is anymore. The later "feminism" of tricking Women into becoming dumb-minded factory drones couldn't be further from what "feminism" was.

Anyways, let's discuss her book, if you like. I find it odd that she's not even listed as a "feminist" author and is listed instead as a "christian theologian" when nothing in this particular book relies upon religion. She's moreso like a Michel Montaigne, in my opinion. A highly underrated British author, technically should be very famous due to being a Woman, but is completely ignored because she highlights Virtue and Intelligence as a prerequisite to and of the goal and maintenance of Liberty.

>>20891638
This is easy, the first and best:

Lady Damaris Masham in the 1500's/1600's "on the vertuous (or christian) life," on the need of women to be educated as their education as being mothers and stewards of the house is more important given their vital station in parenting the children and managing the household.

The burping and monkey-swaggering woman who lowers herself to emulate a common drunkard is the exact opposite of this.

There are others, Mary Astell springs to mind, but Damaris was the first. Coincidentally one of the first humans, regardless of sex, to write logically and rationally about the Virtues, without fraudulent appeals to religion, probably since the Roman Republic.

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>>20562171
I see, so you believe in advertising magazines written by homosexuals from the late 1990's defines 'beauty' for all time in the emaciated face and vacant expression of an artificially oranged Dutch or German woman with her pubic hair removed so as to resemble an infant baby, gotcha.

You're totally straight and the contrast of yourself to Black Africans is not at all scraping the bottom of the barrel to self-justify by extremes.

>>14716700
>The ideology is still heavily stigmatised and states and companies only cherrypick certain bits of it for the sake of justifying globohomo culture.
given that Feminism was never about putig women into slave-like factory and office jobs and corporate culture has made it all about doing that, i'd say the 'ism' it's pretty obviously being held hostage by the fatcats.

Camille Paglia talks about this, others as well.

But this is why I suggested, ages ago in this thread, to go BACK BAC K BACK and read the Women from the 1700 and 1800's who were writing with high IQ on the nature of intelligence and literacy and good effective conduct.. because that's the only way to rise people out of the mental gutter.

the party-pol approach is just the old boys club stuff lingering on. it achieves nothing. and anyway modern feminists haven't obviously even read or understood where feminists were coming from on any level at all.