/lit/ - Literature

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>Deleuze was a pedo-endorser along with most of the French intellectuals of that time period.

yes, the 1970s were most definitely a wild and crazy time. i don't think the idea was Pedophilia Fuck Yeah but it's definitely one of those baka moments for the french intellectuals. if it were me i probably would have passed on that one. i don't know what those guys were thinking. barthes is on that list too and i like him. but no doubt they were trying out some wild ideas. guattari's own life w/the clinics and so on was pretty crazy too from what i have read. his own family life was a mess. it just seemed like crazy was in the air.

the crazy list is by no means exclusive to france. how about heidegger? he's like my #2 guy, an unironic fascist for a few years, then more or less quit that and became just a completely apologetic one afterwards (progress!). he's a giant of philosophy but this is part of his legacy. same goes for dt suzuki and things he said during the war.

or, my favorite one:
>The yellow peril! It is not racial but spiritual. Not about inferior values but about a radical strangeness, strange to all the density of its past, where no voice with a familiar inflection comes through: a lunar, a Martian past.

the above comes from emmanuel levinas, of all people. philosophers are not necessarily saints, that's for sure. it is to his enduring credit that girard managed to not do or say anything completely batshit that we know of. but surely no man is a hero to his valet. for what it's worth.
>and there is also the probably-just-the-wind question of whether or not scapegoat theory necessarily occludes the fact that the jews were also scapegoated by the christians. so this is not to say that scapegoat theory is *wrong,* just that being a catholic doesn't necessarily mean you're completely in the clear.

nobody's really just all-the-time wonderful, is all i'm saying.

>Amazing that you can have this if you just stop being liberal.
i guess. i'm less liberal than i used to be, perhaps, but it's not about politics tho, really. it's just about sanity, intelligence, other ineffables.

there's the question of hermeneutics as well. by comparison to today, even, the US and most of the Western world during the 1950s and 1960s was probably a lot more "conservative" than now, and yet these are periods we can't describe as being anything other than liberal social democracies. we can have damn near anything we want when there's enough coherence to agree on what phenomena we're talking about. it's like weinstein said: left authoritarians and right authoritarians can't get along, left libertarians and right libertarians can. and authoritarianism is fine if it shows the results. the roman empire under marcus aurelius wasn't exactly liberal but it was a pretty great place to live. i doubt anyone expected wakanda to be as big a hit as it was with the collective unconscious. can't predict us humans. we are just too weird.