/lit/ - Literature

>>19771804
Care about what is essential and not what is contingent (most of modernity).

>what do you think is essential?
Read Guenon. Start with Crisis of the Modern World.

Assuming this is the new general Guenon thread, was reading Perspectives on Initiation:

>If one leaves aside the case of possible survivals of certain rare groups of medieval Christian Hermeticists ... there are only two [Western organisations with initiatic claims] ... however degenerate they both may be through the ignorance and incomprehension of the vast majority of their members ... these are Compagnonnage and Masonry.

>pg. 34

>This also explains how the efficacy of the rite accomplished by an individual can be independent of the true merit of the individual as such ... even if the individual lacks the degree of knowledge necessary to comprehend the profound meaning of the rite and the essential reason for its diverse elements, that rite will nonetheless be fully effective if the individual is properly invested with the function of 'transmitter' and accomplishes it while observing all the prescribed rules and with an intention ... From this it immediately follows that even an organisation that at any given time has only what we have called 'virtual' initiates ... is nonetheless capable of really transmitting the spiritual influence of which it is the repository.

>pg. 53

Although I would much rather join a Christian Hermetic group (given the rarity and restrictions, this seems almost impossible), I do have an option of joining the Masons, which, given these excerpts, would not be completely worthless since I would at least receive the transmittance of the spiritual element of the organisation although only virtually because of its decline. I would then be able to practice their rituals and practices with a better understanding from my reading and maybe have a chance of realising the virtual spirit. Give it to me straight, is this completely fanciful thinking? I assume if it was possible, Guenon would have done it himself. Though a lot of his imparted knowledge was given after his initiation and probable spiritual realisation. He didn't have this knowledge himself when he was a Mason.

>>19497387
>Guenon never died and has email

>Be that as it may, one has the general impression that, in the present state of things, there is no longer any stability; but while there are some who sense the danger and try to react to it, most of our contemporaries are quite at ease amid this confusion, in which they see a kind of exteriorized image of their own mentality. Indeed there is an exact correspondence between a world where everything seems to be in a state of mere ‘becoming’, leaving no place for the changeless and the permanent, and the state of mind of men who find all reality in this ‘becoming’, thus implicitly denying true knowledge as well as the object of that knowledge, namely transcendent and universal principles. One can go even further and say that it amounts to the negation of all real knowledge whatsoever, even of a relative order, since, as we have shown above, the relative is unintelligible and impossible without the absolute, the contingent without the necessary, change without the unchanging, and multiplicity without unity; ‘relativism’ is self-contradictory, for, in seeking to reduce everything to change, one logically arrives at a denial of the very existence of change; this was fundamentally the meaning of the famous arguments of Zeno of Elea.

>>15080587
>A man denied his tradition

>>15044370
indeed, all 'philosophy' is a degeneration of true wisdom, aka Traditional Metaphysics

>>15040492
based, hylics btfo

>>15006821
This is so based... So brother... So pbuh...

>>14934724
Perceived 'destruction' by hylics is our strength... What is of Guenon (pbuh) may never perish, but merely appear to for those deluded by maya...

>>14926528
Based... Was Guénon (pbuh) perhaps also Based Incarnate?