/lit/ - Literature

The only truly enduring thing which could be said to be the "I" or self is the awareness which experiences all other phenomena. There is no way to prove whether the phenomena which make up the experience of thinking a thought are actually the result of a truly existent "I" actively thinking or if the awareness is simply passively experiencing a collection of phenomena which happen to give rise to the illusion of thinking.

Should philosophy be taught in public schools?

Why do so many modern writers feel the need to put an explicit sex scene in every single book they write? Do they think it makes their books more mature, or that it makes the characters deeper and more human? Are they unable to properly convey romance and passion any other way so they have to resort to throwing a porn scene in the middle of an otherwise good book? I'm getting so fed up with this shit that I'm considering just not reading anything written in the past 50 years, or at least sci-fi/fantasy books since they're the worst offenders when it comes to this.

>>10726491
Powerful tools are often difficult to learn.

>>9722976
Good place as any to ask. Do you know if anyone ever tried translating Shakespeare into modern english?
Before you'll rage let me explain. I got this idea while watching the latest Macbeth movie and struggling to make any sense of what I was hearing. Obviously I know the story, but my language skills just gave up confronted with old english. Then It occured to me how good it is to be non native english speaker, because I could choose from at least 10 very different translations instead of being stuck with vintage play.
So question: did anyone tried to remake, remaster or make the works of Shakespearemore appealing to current public?

>>9124048
It's a very short read, but it reads like a really beautiful parable or fable, and it's a little bit surreal as well.
The only other book I can think of which has the same fairytale-like setting and deals with war trauma is Hesse's The Glass Bead Game, but as a Bildungsroman it's way more massive and not really like a fable.
On a side-note, Max Frisch and Friedrich Dürrenmatt have written some fucking funny plays/stories based on their experiences.

>>8907451

>To extend the base of the student movement, Rudi Dutschke has proposed the strategy of the long march through the institutions: working against the established institutions while working within them, but not simply by 'boring from within', rather by 'doing the job', learning (how to program and read computers, how to teach at all levels of education, how to use the mass media, how to organize production, how to recognize and eschew planned obsolescence, how to design, et cetera), and at the same time preserving one's own consciousness in working with others.

They come right out and say it. Smart commies realized that old fashioned class struggle, marches and strikes etc, would never work so they changed their tack. It's way easier to go after the soft underbelly of the western intelligentsia, because for whatever reason intellectuals in the 1940s-1960s were naturally inclined to fall for edgy new ideas from Central Europe. Then you had the phenomenon of university professors showing up for class wearing leather jackets and sharing these hip new ideas with their impressionable young charges. Result: degeneracy! In the current aevum successive generations of these sjw cucks have gotten tenure and bred their replacements. That's why both faculty and students are so far gone.

You're basically a relic with your "class consciousness" ideas.

>>8486413
The perfect purist translation is a spook, especially when talking literary translation
The more recent translation theory I've been exposed to seems to have embraced what literary theory has to offer, namely Bakhtin and the notion of novelistic discourse, or 'uneigentliche Rede', which is the better term for describing what ancient rhetorics called the 'improprietas' use of words where words are assigned an extra, non-standardised meaning, like when paraphrase someone and use words that were not his own, and metasemes also rarely if ever allow for 'direct translation' (a spook)

>>8456586
I've read it along with the rest of the short stories in the collection Schicksal und Traum, I think he has a clean style and a good grasp of what I'd guess you'd call novelistic and free indirect discourse, respectively, which works especially well when shifting in and out of dream, or delirium, like in some of the collected short stories, and not unlike Stefan Zweig
Also not unlike Stefan Zweig, the themes covered (gambling, adultery, incest, and more) provide good opportunity for Freudian psychology, which occasionally gets a bit thick, but it's not too bad

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>>8404168
You should ditch the alphabet and any thematic distinctions (which make no sense for a small library) and go by publisher consistently instead desu
To comment on the content, I don't like genre fiction but I think it's an otherwise good collection. Given your interest in psychology, I'd also like to recommend the novels/short stories/plays of Stefan Zweig and Arthur Schnitzler. They were more the contemporaries of Freud than Jung but I still think they both had a keen grasp of human psychology, and they both wrote really well, or you would probably enjoy symbolist or symbol-rich literature, e.g. Sophus Claussen, Isak Dinesen, or Rilke

>>8081092
Interestingly enough, the title of this book is one of those cases where a translation is obviously much better and more descriptive because of the poverty of the English language when it comes to describing types silence, and the original title has always struck me as more fanciful than descriptive.
Cf. the German title, Schweigen der Lämmer, where 'Schweigen' isn't just being silent, but keeping silent even though possessing information.

>>7464748
1) Social privilege.
2) Shallow fucks getting impressed by masculine writing.

>>7466555
Kill all other races.

>>7425161
>Anaconda Kafka
I see you're familiar with most major, German publishers, wouldn't you agree that Anaconda books are by far the shittiest, even though they're fairly cheap hardbacks? I've an Anaconda Stefan Zweig and a Nietzsche collection, both have glaring punctuation and spelling errors like commas in the middle of words and words with clearly misplaced letters, and I was gifted the same Kafka as yours, but I especially wouldn't entrust Anaconda with that and I went out and bought the Fischer version because those guys I trust.

>>7432106

Your tragic background doesn't make you any less accountable as a relatively sane adult.

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I'd like to point out something very depressing here.
For men, it's normal to go to a brothel when you're married or have a girlfriend. They do it as a planned group activity. Despite it being cheating. Men do cheating as a planned group activity, systematically, paying money to do it. Pretty sick. They defined this as being socially acceptable and women seem to have given up hope.

I even once argued with a dude on some feminist issues, and he was claiming women cheat more, and claimed he couldn't think of a single guy in his life who he knew to have cheated, despite knowing several women who cheated. I asked him whether he really couldn't think of any guys who were married and still went to a brothel. That made him think a bit, then burst out "b-but that's different!" Pathetic. Some men literally do not even realize it when they cheat.

When a woman has an affair, even a single one, unplanned/going with the flow, feeling some shame/guilt throughout, she is nevertheless demonized to an extreme extent. Called a cheating whore, slut, manipulative, deranged, morally bankrupt. Pushed into deep self-hate.

This is insanely fucked up.
I'm a guy, and I still stand with the women on this one.
If you fail to have a proper, mutually emotionally fulfilling relationship with your partner and see her as a friend, and even go out buying sex from strangers because you don't even care about your partner THAT much (not to say only caring about your partner for sex is acceptable in any way), then you should absolutely not be surprised when she seeks fulfillment externally, all the while being too afraid to break up or admit that she likes someone else, because you'd absolutely lose your shit.

>>7428460
You should both feel bad.

>see word i don't know
>look it up
>write it down on a piece of paper

>>7289246
There's a /lit/ chart with translations. I don't have it, some other anon might, and I know German, so I haven't read translations, but as I understand it Kaufmann translations aren't considered top notch and they come with comments that skew Nietzsche's sayings.
However, I can give an example of blatant mistranslation in Kaufmann, although in The Gay Science where "Unthier von parodischem Stoff ihn in Kürze"(monster of parodic material) gets translated "monster of material for parody", which is ambiguous and hardly makes sense.

>>7036843
I recently read Zweig, same book, I think he has a nice and classic style but his tones gets a bit preachy at times
Really fucking interesting book, though, with him brushing shoulders with basically a whole generation's power players, and Hitler lived across his street at one point

>>6994205
But the chromatic scale that he developed actually sees use by artists because of the whole concept of temperamental and complimentary colors etc., to at least give him some credit.
Also I know a guy who went to a Rudolf Steiner/Waldorf school and they're supposedly nuts for esoteric stuff like that which I guess doesn't surprise me.

>>6847155
One of the main characters in Buddenbrooks, the heir to the family or whatever, delivers a pretty massive, pessimistic misanthropist rant. Not that you need to read up on Schopenhauer like that though, the rant is pretty explicit and step by step if I remember correctly.
Magic Mountain, by comparison, I think is more subtle about it, I'm pretty sure Mann sneaks a near-quote of Nietzsche in there, but at the same time Buddenbrooks is still pretty layered, like with spooky Poe/Fall of House Usher elements

>>6613624
Reclam books are cheap as shit but they feel and hold together like shit, Suhrkamp make nicer books, it's also nice the way the latter make a small mark every time there's a Hinweis, and the way they translate words from olden times right on the page they're used.

>>6552205
With notes, you're carrying and using a minimum of two items, book and notes, because if you're using the notes, I don't think it makes sense not having the book by you for reference, and I'm not just talking notes about who did what when, I'm talking that as well as thoughts that come to you as you read, which is also why it's nice having an edition with stuff like examples of interpretation or it's reception history (that you can also add notes to)
If you write it in the book it's all right there, man.

>>5877236
Real talk tho
Without the whole Nazi thang, would Heidegger have been bigger?
He along with his family have been pretty good at airbrushing and de-browning him up until recently

I dunno I think he's pretty boss

All manner of misfits call this site home. I think it's safe to assume that a higher proportion of users of 4chan are mentally ill, troubled, etc. than the rest of the population. This isn't some kind of suicide club though.

People here often discuss philosophy, it looks like your son (if this is real) was interested in philosophy. Maybe he was trying to work out life and it's meaning.