/lit/ - Literature

>>12661705
my ideal world is the one in which we recognize that the point is entirely to Advance The Meatbag. Sloterdijkian patronage seems like a good idea to me, if you're so obscenely wealthy that you can afford to pay everyone's college tuition, the state should make you a landed noble and build a huge statue of you. conscripting huge numbers of people into the army and Kondo-ing your country ideologically is undeniably attractive when people are in crisis but you wind up depending on crisis in order to rule, and this only leads to disaster.

Patchwork really is quite brilliant for a lot of these questions, and the nice part about it is that you don't even require anything like a system of social credit on the scale of the Chinese. independent or small-scale states can put it into practice as they like, but ultimately if it winds up stifling business it's going to have to go.

the appeal and attraction of Social Credit is not lost on me, as a way of producing ideological conformity. using the *actual* means of production - finance - to continue one's dream of building a moderately prosperous Chinese nation makes a lot of sense. but ultimately it's only going to work if that dream of moderate prosperity actually does come to pass, which is going to have to involve doing business with the rest of the world also, and if the rest of the world is turned off by what your state is doing to their own people it's not going to work. Land's version of Patchwork is kinda-sorta SC by another name, if we understand that by Social we mean Credit and by Credit we also mean Credit, that it's just capitalism all day erry day errywhere and beyond this we need to look no further for questions of policy, governance, or rule. whatever system does right by Capital does right by its people, and to do right by one's people is all one can expect from a sovereign.

>>12661715
yeah, my wording there was quite silly, i had two different thoughts going on at the same time. it's both i think, defused - by becoming formalized - and diffused, by becoming de-absolutized (the board > the monarch). the sovereign is simply a being of authority, an eminence. everything meaningful can be done by the bean-counters (who are, as i said, ideally going to have to publish this all as open-access reports for public review and scrutiny). cloak and dagger stuff is inevitable but obviously not desirable.

>>12661762
>I do lean towards his royalist views though. Leftism = entropy
this is the big one. Murphy said as much too, in the podcast. i concur. it's like actively pursuing entropy. obviously i like things like universal health care, free tuition, things like this. but these are the fruits of careful economic planning, not hammer and sickle mandates. we have to be smart about this stuff.