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>>12922033
The stories, including the bits referred to as The Homeric Hymns, that passed down may stretch back into the "Heroic Age", sure. But they weren't written down until Homer's time
I forget though, was it during his lifetime or after. Being blind he couldn't've cared much.

Nice book for you, if you haven't heard

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>>12557892
>As soon as people stopped being nomadic they invented coinage
Absurd.
Starting with the nomads, these close-knit communities would periodically settle and grow crops in a place, and drift off later with the seasons. Becoming more attached to favorable regions, they would settle, sure, declare their farms theirs? maybe. Horde surplus crops? Or try to SELL them? what a novel and stupid idea. It was the tools people started to develop that became the prize and instrument of thefts and conquests.
AND gifts!

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>>12447497
War has been glorified, and even in recoiling horror imbued with honors undue, it's true.

But it was a fact of their time, their mindset then as it is now

So how do we heal the cause of it and break these zombies trance? I drop hints, but no one seems to care.

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>>12402351
>Thinks Homer was Greek and not Anatolian
>Thinks Homer/Homeric didn't travel to Crete
I have a book for you. You might like it.

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>>11177651
>T levels increased at least by 50% while reading.
>I am now completely bald.

The Odyssey (any reputable translation) and The World of Odysseus here.

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>>11178751
Shut up and read this

(And Edith Grossman's Don Quixote)

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>>10685351
Very much myth. Likely a series of raids on various towns.

Read this book for that.

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>>9793035
I say just read the Odyssey.
For afterward read this

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>>9655322
Herodotus is more of a travel guide and amateur sociologist, but it's all set in the Athenian ("Periclean") age.
I just read Finley's World of Odysseus and thoroughly enjoyed it's insights. Maybe best to read afterwards.

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>Pokymon

Fagles or Lombado, for you.

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We always see threads asking about the best Homer translations, but what about Ovid?

How about Lucretius' De Rerum Natura?

>>6431367
How about pictured?

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