/lit/ - Literature

>>18348305
What do I care for your suffering? Pain, even agony, is nothing more than information before the senses, data fed into the computer of the mind.

>>17926551
>But muh suffering-
What do I care for your suffering? Pain, even agony, are merely information before the senses. Data fed into the computer of the mind.

>>17821552
What do I care for your suffering? Pain, even agony, are merely information before the senses, data fed into the computer of the mind.

>>17694284
What do I care for their suffering? Pain, even agony, are merely information before the senses, data in the computer of the mind.

>>17672136
>if suffering has any value at all or worthy
That has never been a question. Suffering itself has no value and does not even merit consideration. All pain, even agony, is merely information before the senses, data in the computer of the mind. David Benatar relies on suffering having a negative value; he is just as guilty as the rest of them.

>>17603893
Antinatalism is a hedonistic philosophy which assumes that all pain is bad and then argues from there. But far from calling either suffering and pleasure absolutely good or bad, they are not even worth considering besides pragmatically. That is to say, pain and pleasure are only good or bad incidently, in view of their consequences, rather than in themselves. There are some examples, of course; exercise and study is commonly considered a type of suffering, yet those activities are still evaluated as worthwhile for the acquisition of strength and knowledge, respectively. This can be applied to all forms of suffering, and even to pleasure too. So in the end, all observations of suffering are as relevant as saying 'the chair is red'. Merely information for the mind.

He comes to a gateway in the brick wall, looks in, and sees a great perplexity of iron lying about in every stage and in a vast variety of shapes--in bars, in wedges, in sheets; in tanks, in boilers, in axles, in wheels, in cogs, in cranks, in rails; twisted and wrenched into eccentric and perverse forms as separate parts of machinery; mountains of it broken up, and rusty in its age; distant furnaces of it glowing and bubbling in its youth; bright fireworks of it showering about under the blows of the steam-hammer; red-hot iron, white-hot iron, cold-black iron; an iron taste, an iron smell, and a Babel of iron sounds.
>Dickens, Bleak House

When beholding the tranquil beauty and brilliancy of the ocean's skin, one forgets the tiger heart that pants beneath it; and would not willingly remember that this velvet paw but conceals a remorseless fang.
>Melville, Moby Dick

OK, but play Yang.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJlPr2KHSFo

>>14859184
>You're right that an imposition of "communism" from the top down will never work while people remain what they are--the solution, as you say, lies in education. But there is no reason to believe that "human nature" will remain what it is among a truly well-educated populace, as such a thing has never yet existed.

Right you are, comrade. Commence the nerve stapling and build those genejack factories!

>>14208516
pic related is a more compelling atheist philosopher than any of those assholes except perhaps hitch, and thats only because I enjoy his journalistic exploits.