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>The gehumellschellschaft of the Magian soul was shown by al Bimbabi in 812 AD in his great work the al-Majistitarikh, presaging the decline of the Faustian spirit, which will go through the same untergangbeschullenichte as all civilizations preceding it.
Bruh I'm not reading all this lmao. Closed it before I even got to page 20. Why tf so many people read this wordcel garbage though? Nigga was deadass a high school teacher lmao, just needed to get some mf pussy.

So we shouldn’t try to make art today? This is the building phase of a new civilization? But I want to make art

>"the time of paradigmatic philosophical and scientific discovery has passed"
>20th century: theory of relativity, quantum mechanics, Whitehead, Heidegger,..."
what did he mean by this?

>the antiquity peoples who charted the stars and thought they were talking to demons who gave them knowledge while explaining the world with literal cosmological origins?
>nah man, these guys were, like, too focused on the body
>VGH THE FAVSTIAN GERMANICS WHOSE FOLKLORE WAS ALWAYS EARTH-CENTERED ARE ALWAYS ATTRACTED TO FORBIDDEN AND VAST KNOWLEDGE OF COSMIC PROPORTIONS VGH!
Why did Spengler mean by this? What makes Faust and Mephistopheles different from Socrates and the Daemons? Greeks literally had a concept of a higher dimensional spirit. I don't see what makes Faust such an aberration that Spengler feels the need that this creates the dichotomy. I furthermore do not understand his point of the Ancient World being preoccupied with the body, when all these guys were doing was trying to figure out cosmological models to explain the entire universe. It just doesn't track to me. It feels like cope.

Spengler differentiates between country, village, town and city. I understand these four correspond with the four stages (or seasons) of civilization, is the correct? Can someone explain what he exactly means by each and why he ultimately favors the town?

”It is a conclusive fact—yet one hitherto never appreciated—that all great Cultures are town-Cultures.”

>200 pages of painting autism
I get it already, painting is Faustian unlike lifeless Greek statues. This is just like Herodotus talking about the Nile. What part does he start talking about Jesus?

ITT: Jews who aren't widely acknowledged as Jews.

Where do the Anglophone world's interpretation of all and each of Spengler's cultures, prime symbols, and natural origins come from?

Who are the most influential Spenglerian secondary thinkers and their writings? The guys who didn't understand him and watered him down, resulting in Reddit-tier, wigger, neonazi, and brownoid bastardizations of his thought?

Why is Spengler chartists's (clearly a second-rate thinker) chart not actually based on DOTW's text, or even ostensibly conclusively inferrable from Spengler's thought?

They clearly didn't even undertand Faustian's origins, based on the picture they used, as the picture used unmistakably contradicts Spengler's dissociations of the natural origin.

Going by DOTW's text, China's prime symbol didn't come from its main river, but the general Chinese landscape itself. This also better integrates with its architectural expression as gardening, and according to Spengler, also landscaping with buildings in general.

Spengler doesn't even associate a river for the "illusion" symbol, which isn't even called that in DOTW, and for good reason: illusion is a secondary effect of India's actual prime symbol. Whoever spread illusion as India's prime symbol is a midwit and an idiot.

To say nothing of other stupid interpretations of the civilizations of the New World.

>A real metaphysician has to understand the most advanced mathematics of his day. Examples include Leibniz and Plato while midwit metaphysicans are examplified by Aristotle and Kant.
Oswald Spengler said this in volume one of decline of the west. Is he correct?

>>21965342
Decline of the West is in effect an epic poem

>>21902612
I was wondering if it is possible to view some of Spengler’s more fictional and artistic works? Does anyone here know where I might find them? Thanks.
>At age 15, Spengler filled whole booklets with visions and detailed sketches of two fictitious empires, down to administrative procedures and economic statistics. At 17, he wrote a stage play about Moctezuma, probing the encounter of two alien cultures.
https://www.oswaldspenglersociety.com/oswald-spengler

What are the best books to understand the right wing critiques to capitalism? I read an extract to Spengler’s Prussian socialism or something like that and that nigga was acclaiming capitalism but calling it socialism

spengler died a virgin

>>21450179
I disagree

>>21240853
Probably smile knowing that people think he looks like a big teutonic toughy because of one constantly spammed photo when he really looked as close to a Simpsons character as humanly possible.

Please don't say death and damnation.

What does Spengler mean by Nature vs History?

When exactly does a culture become a civilization?

The ultimate redpill is realizing that Christianity was the only religion that could bring about Faustian civilization. It was the synthetical result of the conflict between the Magian Jacobian-Petrine branch (Exemplified in Matthew and Mark), and the Apollonian Pauline-Johannine branch (exemplified in Luke and John). Only through this synthesis could Faustian civilization take shape.

>What defines post-Christian white identitarianism (to give it an exact if unwieldy name) is consciousness starting in 1920s that older hierarchies (primarily global white supremacy but also patriarchy & heteronormativity) are under challenge: "the rising tide of color" Spengler's great premonition in the 1920s was that global white supremacy was in its last days & that its end would produce a psychic shock to people who were used to thinking of themselves as the natural rulers of the world. Like Carl Schmitt & other members of the so-called "conservative revolution," Spengler was too tainted by Nazism to ever join a respectable intellectual pantheon. But it doesn't a Sherlock Holmes or a Leo Strauss to detect pervasiveness of latent Spenlarianism in the right. The latent Spenglarianism explains why rightists love writing books with titles like "Suicide of the West" or "Death of the West"; love gloomily fixating on demographic data & talking about the great replacement. Identity in the Spenglarian tradition is prior to consciousness: it's what you are born with. If your So even though most of the thinkers in this tradition are not believers (& sometimes "pagans") they are culturally Christian. That identity is now more salient.

https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/1549398832110354434

https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/christianitys-postliberal-critics

Thoughts? I was considering reading Spengler before but now I dunno he sounds like some proto-alt-right drivel

Have not read any Spengler but want to start Decline of the West. Is there any of his other works I should read first? Any key works I should read by other writers I should read first?

What an overcomplicating pseud kek. Lot's of words for a work no one use any idea of, but only the title. So much of these name dropped "thinkers" only used for his name in discussion, but never for any interesting idea or genuine thought.

>europe is finished it's over
*guy tries to save it*
>no stop what are you doing you're evil
What did Spengler want?

Itt: Authors who if you see that someone likes them make you instantly stop listening.