/lit/ - Literature

>>20676289
This is the image I wanted to post yesterday that was similar to the image I ended up posting and sort of delineates your question.
>Why bother then? That's all I want to know.
Why not? The point of "it doesn't matter" is that there are no rules, you go from societal pressure to absolutely no pressure your desire is the limit. Like I said before stuff like books and movies have meaning and give me enjoyment even though they're "ultimately meaningless" and I think fiction is a great example of this. I cannot control that the sun is going to explode sometime in the future or that I was born here and now to a regular family and not oligarchs. That does not mean my experiences were any less meaningful growing up or my family "doesn't matter" they do, even if ((we)) don't matter on the grand scale. These are two separate and tangential ideas and in my eyes they give MORE definition to each other. The fact that my family dramas or work politics can feel deeply meaningful and then there's this contrasting reminder of "well not really" doesn't make the feeling or experience less real, it simply removes the negative feelings of pressure that can be brought on by the situation. You can respect both that to my individual life, my wellness and desires in this short blip I have this stuff is meaningful while also letting go of the absurd notion of cosmic significance. It's like how when you were little and played a game with your friends (outdoors like manhunt or kickball or something) it wasn't worse off because it was meaningless. It's literally all just play and that's so beautiful, like we came from dust and will return to dust and I can have this overwhelming bounty of experiences in the meantime.
>Why write a book, I'm just going to die.
Why NOT write a book? You're going to die (can't control that) and you can write one now (can control that). You definitely can't write one when you're dead. You ARE going to die, so you can either sit in a room and wait for it or fuck around and have a good time before then in the limited amount of time you have to have a good time. Things don't need to have meaning to be enjoyable, there's no god sitting at the end of the universe saying
>oh he read lord of the rings! *checkmark*
but that doesn't make it any more or less of an enjoyable experience.
>>20676363
>All I want to know is why am I here?
When facing this question you have to bet down and assume there is no reasoning, because it only goes up from there.
>What if the feelings I have now still persist?
You get to a core issue that a lot of people don't have the fortune to be cognizant of before getting a little ways into life here. Your feelings and wellbeing matter more than anything else, which is why stuff like mental health, enjoying time with friends and family, exercise, work/life balance are so important. Your life is ultimately meaningless and your enjoyment of that life is at a base base level facilitated by all these things.

I can't remember the last time i've seen a nihilist give an intelligent, nuanced take on ANYTHING. And for "believing in nothing", most of them are so conformist it's disgusting, their idols and role models are all corrupt billionaire businessmen and politicians like Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Fauci, etc.

Whereas all the most intelligent and accomplished people in the World tend to think under frameworks and are overwhelmingly anti-nihilistic on average, Einstein, Newton, Feynman, Plato, Socrates, Nietzsche, Boyle, Da Vinci, Maxwell, Shakespeare, MLK, Gandhi, Tesla.. pick any list of the greatest people who ever lived, and you'll see only a handful of people who could be ARGUED to be nihilists.

The psychology of the nihilist is overwhelmingly that of a coddled suburbanite NPC who is not only too intellectually cowardly to pick a framework to think under; But also, has a penchant for rationalizing their laziness to confront their own problems and psychological deficiencies with common trends like "i simply don't give a fuck, so i'm gonna play videogames and watch anime all day" and "nothing matters anyways, so i have no moral obligation to anyone, but i'm also gonna morally shame you if you do something "wrong" because morality is suddenly objective now". Self-describing as some sort of pseudo-schopenhauerian pseudo-pessimists, regurgitating quotes along the lines of "life is so terrible, no God could create this World filled with so much violence and suffering, desire is the root of all suffering, hope is the worst of all evils because it drives man to continue his torment, i hate the Universe so much". But despite acknowledging the abhorrent state of nature they never think or act out the logical implications of pessimism like asceticism or compassion, nope, they just continue being materialistic hedonistic NPCs who consoom funko-pops and Marvel movies and worship Elon Musk, because they don't even genuinely believe that life is terrible or any other pessimistic beliefs like that, they just say they do to seem smart.

Any books that'll teach me to be a nihilist like pic related? Seems pretty cool.

Midwit here, what is wrong with using Nihilism as a cope? Because of the senselessness of the universe, my problems are insignificant.

>>18325890

Why is obsessed with hating Nihilism? If everything is a cope against Nihilism, can't Nihilism be a cope for itself?

How about you just stop giving a shit?

>>16715829
It's all in your mind. Be brave and strong.

>>16469218
Nihilism =/= depression. Thats some reddit tier soiboi understanding of it. Why is it that moralcucks never actually read.

>>15717537
You wish. More like a billion agendas that were poorly planned, underfunded with little or no cohesive direction that brought us to the spit and duct tape civilization you see before you.

He only noticed the aimlessness of the social cohesion offered. He did not however bring the idea of nilihism to it's ultimate conclusion.

Nothing
Really
Matters

Now depending on who you are, that statement can mean a lot. It can mean you can sit and sulk about things or you can understand that nothing really matters, which means anything is possible if you shove your will into completing a task. Goes way smoother if you are polite.

Thoughts? Is this what authors dealing with the subject are actually trying to convey?

>>13871092
This unironically

how do i stop being the guy on the left and instead be the guy on the right?

What do I read to stop being the guy on the left and instead be the guy on the right?

Who can i read so i can be more like the guy on the right instead of on the left?

>>10611549
>she gets proven right in her basic ideals
Does she? The pocket universe was a straight deus ex machina. If you're talking about the decision to leave it, I can see that. I just think the scenarios where her choices turned out poorly are more plausible than "sacrifice yourself so the universe can be reborn (maybe)". The ending felt somewhat contrived in order to produce a good outcome for Cheng's impulses -- although I'm not sure e.g. Wade would have chosen differently. And really, Cheng could have had it both ways -- more Solar humans survive AND she leaves the pocket.

The ambiguity around the correctness of her actions is to the author's credit though.

>pic related

>>9960657

>>9426627
We must overcome even our untimeliness.

And are you the guy who won a fiction contest by lying about what state he lived in?

>>9413115
Stirner on right

Nietzsche on left

Hey /lit/, I don't come here often but I'm looking for some book recommendations. I've been rereading Ayn Rand for the first time since high school and I'm looking for something sort of similar.

I.e. Philosophy in a story, but maybe better written. Or just some good books on philosophy

Since I understood everything is vain and my life and identity will be deleted when I'm dead, I feel fucking depressed. (no suicide yet)
I know a part of the nihilists just don't give a fuck about it (or they are too dumb to think about what it implies) and enjoy life, but i can't help but be sad and think death is better than any kind of suffering.

Does it mean I'm a pussy ? Or is it the first step and then comes acceptance ?

>reading nihilism
>expecting depressiveness
>it's just cuckoldry and farting