/lit/ - Literature

>>19292150

Yes, but his debunkers were also debunked, so who knows?

Has someone been deboonked?

>>17578763

The Virgin Debunker vs the Chad Indian Materialist

>>17559847

Based and Deboonked pilled

Based and Deboonked pilled

>>16827059
>Nobody outside 4chan thinks like this, fucking hell, people believe in science even though they can't see it for a reason, because it is peer proven, officially checked by thousands of authorities on the subject, also
You'll be saying that for the next scientific theory that replaces the current "peer proven" one. Science doesn't prove anything, it only puts forth theories with evidence to support them. At any time, evidence can be found that contradict these theories, forcing the theories to be changed. As an aside, why do you trust these authorities? Do you know them? What if they are lying to you about certain things, like space, for instance (which we cannot travel to and verify on our own; sure, there is blackness and there are celestial bodies, but that does not mean what we see on our own through telescopes is what scientists who purportedly have sent probes and astronuts are being truthful). Why should I trust these scientists over church fathers? I can verify both beliefs; for the latter, I can follow their example and experience their same spiritual experiences (much to science's silence and lack of satisfactory explanation).
Hot damn, how scientifically bankrupt are you? Read articles, get a college degree; things aren't settled, science is constantly growing, shedding theories, positing new, better ones.

Take this for instance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_helmet
He performs one experiment, other scientists perform their own experiments and receive differing results/conclusions.

>>16827163
>science's infallibility
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis
>insecure, worthless manchildren who need sky daddy to them it's all gonna be alright
Either you're trolling or you're serious; if you're serious, then I didn't choose to be an insecure, worthless manchild, so you are causing me gratuitous suffering. This is in tension with your negative utilitarianism. You are also wasting your time here if we are such coarse science-deniers; you are wasting precious time you could've spent educating yourself further.

>>16745295
I haven't read anything, mate, so stop trying to have power over me with liberally-applied labels. Posting an hour long video isn't a response, summarize the arguments therein.

>>16745304
Non-argument. Also,
>from what I'M going to do to you, and not from what YOU'RE going to do to yourself

>>16745305
They made their choice. He created them for them to exercise their will, and they chose to become trash.

>>16745315
I have suffered greatly, and not all suffering needs to be spectacular to be great. If you are fragile, or weak, you can kill yourself over a bad grade, while a stronger man might go through a war and subsequent PTSD without doing the same.

>>16745334
Life is power

>>16745340
So that there can be individuals whose free will led them to eternal life. Unless all individuals get second chances at redemption, but I don't know about that.

>>16745349
>It depends. We got very lucky. And even if live would have emerged, it could be drastically different from ours, and the problem of evil would simply be beyond them
Think in eternal terms. If the cosmos are always going to exist, it's likely for life like ours, even if it suffers or is anguished in a different way, to eventually arise through abiogenesis, thus rendering efilism futile.

>And Universe itself is not eternal, so no life might emerge ever again.
I'm pretty sure most atheists don't believe that, but I don't know the science surrounding this. If the Universe is not forever lasting, then surely it must have had a beginning. From what?

>So just coping and reveling in fairy tales.
Yes

>To prove existence of heaven and hell, prove the existence of soul as a separate entity first.
It will be proven (or not) to everyone in death. I'm just banking on it for the sake of justifying so-called evil.

>everyone is sick and tired of your copes
The point is not to just cope, but to also try and make the world a better place. The point of the cope is to assure that the war is won even if the battles are lost

Awful lot of "copes" being thrown around, too few arguments.