/lit/ - Literature

You're not a dog. Consider learning about the many perspectives on the mind that don't completely ignore it like behaviorism.

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>>17428446
OP if you are still here take a look at this. Not directly about depression but psychology in general. Imho that's more helpful as you get an understanding of how your psyche works and how you can change it.

Psych chart

I got you

Is this true?
>Mental illness is a complex problem and pharmacology is just one approach, based on trying to reduce everything to neurochemistry. I haven't seen any empirical evidence that supports this view beyond just some statistics, that a certain amount of people get "better" but I don't think you can rule out placebo or other factors. Actually, the entire field of psychotherapy, no matter which modality your therapist practices, statistically has about the same modest effect size (see Dodo bird verdict) which pretty much means that none of these approaches do anything beyond some common factors shit like the therapeutic relationship. It's all placebo at best.

>I'm not personally anti-psychiatry, but I'm pretty anti-pharma, since at least these other approaches are likely do little damage while messing with brain chemistry is bound to fuck you up eventually.

>There really isn't any solution out there for people dealing with anxiety and depression. You either get better randomly or it just gets worse and worse while you cope with "meditation" or buying more stuff or hoping to get to some arbitrary goal post that will make everything better.

All self-help is just distilled and re-marketed popular psychotherapy with very questionable basis.

You're better off reading the original theory because they're at least approached with a somewhat objective lens, rather than "top ten secrets the successful don't want you to know about".

If you know about CBT, mindfulness and behavioral theory, you could probably write a successful self-help book if you add some mysticism and a F*CK in the title.

>>16003599
I don't know

Personally, I didn't find it helpful, because rational arguments don't work when it comes to your lower-level systems that actually cause your symptoms. You cannot convince yourself out of a panic attack with rationalization, no matter how good the argument, because the part of you that is having the panic attack doesn't respond to verbal and abstract reasoning.

Statistically, it's about as effective as any other psychotherapeutic method, which has some controversial implications for the entire field of psychotherapy. Namely that it's all a placebo at best.

http://www.coherencetherapy.org/files/dodo-bibliography.pdf

Mental illness is a complex problem and pharmacology is just one approach, based on trying to reduce everything to neurochemistry. I haven't seen any empirical evidence that supports this view beyond just some statistics, that a certain amount of people get "better" but I don't think you can rule out placebo or other factors. Actually, the entire field of psychotherapy, no matter which modality your therapist practices, statistically has about the same modest effect size (see Dodo bird verdict) which pretty much means that none of these approaches do anything beyond some common factors shit like the therapeutic relationship. It's all placebo at best.

I'm not personally anti-psychiatry, but I'm pretty anti-pharma, since at least these other approaches are likely do little damage while messing with brain chemistry is bound to fuck you up eventually.

There really isn't any solution out there for people dealing with anxiety and depression. You either get better randomly or it just gets worse and worse while you cope with "meditation" or buying more stuff or hoping to get to some arbitrary goal post that will make everything better.

Just git gud and be your own psychotherapists. No one else has access to your mind completely.

>>15331007
It's about rhetoric