/lit/ - Literature

Fuck Harris v. Peterson.

Who won this?

>OMG!! foucault is totally amoral... i am now afraid..

Was there ever a more embarrassing moment for softlefts?

Reminder that Chomsky won the first part of the discussion by correctly asserting that yes there is so such a thing as human nature, which is amenable to meaningful classification and scientific discovery, while Foucault won the second part of the discussion, by correctly asserting that the primary purpose of making war is to win, and by pointing out that morality is not so important in the world as Chomsky would like it to be. The two thus ended their soccer match in a 1-1 draw.*

This thread is about a thing which also exists as a book. Simply search "the chomsky foucault debate" for the appropriate short book, a transcript plus related matter.

The imagery and televised milleu of this exchange is also extremely interesting to me for one cosmetic reason: orange juice. I can only assume that the drink at the table, captured in color television, is orange juice, which is a very healthy beverage, but perhaps not a "telegenic beverage" for two reasons: nowadays, people on talk shows are expected to drink from mugs or water bottles, both because hot liquid helps your voice, and there is a "seriousness" about the beverages, or at least, a sort of TV-culture acceptance of what you actually are videoed as drinking on the TV. Also quite frankly the yellow is a bit ugly against the rest of it, but I only say that because I'm not used to seeing serious men talk all serious with a caraffe of happy orange juice on standby.

*matching a purely accidental and unintended /sci/ post.

I've got a question. In this debate Chomsky and Foucault at a certain point almost collaborate on their ideas of reality and, though I haven't watched this in a while, describe it as fields

What the fuck are they talking about here. Is this an image each of them use to conceptualize reality, like with the utility and conceptuality of a flowchart for example?

https://youtu.be/3wfNl2L0Gf8?t=15m38s


>what did they mean by this

who was in the wrong here?

Who was in the right here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wfNl2L0Gf8

Who won this debate. Chomsky or Foucault? I would say Chomsky, most notably about the proletariat, justice, and power in the the last twenty minutes of the debate.