/lit/ - Literature

>>14570062
The real answer to his question is that people are so obdurate in their career of sin, that they are unilaterally opposed to the idea of religious life and view it as a a barrier between them and their sin. In the words of Christ, 'And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil'. The error of that questioner lies, his prideful presumption that 1) they deserve to be saved, and 2), that it is up to him that does the saving. Salvation is purely a gift of God and if they refuse it, one should not do anything more than shake the dust of their feet and leave them to their own destruction.

As to the undergraduate pseuds response, pathetic. It rests entirely on pop-psychology and conjecture. A midwit that cannot even conceive of metaphysics.

>>14414669
>knowingly
False.
>audacity to think he's an authority on morality.
Appeal to hypocrisy, predicated on a falsehood.
>>14414683
The Catholic Church is the one true Church and there is no salvation outside of it.

'Lord, are they few that are saved? But he said to them: Strive to enter by the narrow gate; for many, I say to you, shall seek to enter, and shall not be able.'

Luke 13:23-24

'For many are called, but few chosen.'

Mark 20:16

'Behold how many there are who are called, and how few who are chosen! And behold, if you have no care for yourself, your perdition is more certain than your amendment, especially since the way that leads to eternal life is so narrow.'

St. John of the Cross, Doctor of the Church

'The saved are few, but we must live with the few if we would be saved with the few. O God, too few indeed they are: yet amongst those few I wish to be!'

St. Alphonsus Maria de Liguori, Doctor of the Church

'The more the wicked abound, so much the more must we suffer with them in patience; for on the threshing floor few are the grains carried into the barns, but high are the piles of chaff burned with fire.'

St. Augustine,

'All would wish to be saved and to enjoy the glory of paradise; but to gain heaven, it is necessary to walk in the straight road that leads to eternal bliss. This road is the observance of the divine commandments. Hence, in his preaching, the Baptist exclaimed: Make straight the way of the Lord.'

St. Alphonsus Maria de Liguori,

'The number of the elect is so small - so small - that were we to know how small it is, we should faint away with grief. The number of the elect is so small that were God to assemble them together, He would cry to them, as He did of old, by the mouth of His prophet, "Gather yourselves together, one by one" - one from this province, one from that kingdom.'

St. Louis Marie de Montfort

'Our chronicles relate an even more dreadful happening. One of our brothers, well-known for his doctrine and holiness, was preaching in Germany. He represented the ugliness of the sin of impurity so forceful that a woman fell dead of sorrow in front of everyone. Then, coming back to life, she said, "When I was presented before the Tribunal of God, sixty thousand people arrived at the same time from all parts of the world; out of that number, three were saved by going to Purgatory, and all the rest were damned.'

St. Leonard of Port Maurice

'That those who walk in the way of salvation are the smaller number is due to the vice and depraved habits imbibed in youth and nourished in childhood. By these means Lucifer has hurled into Hell so great a number of souls, and continues thus to hurl them into Hell every day, casting so many nations from abyss to abyss of darkness and errors, such as are contained in the heresies and false sects of the infidels.'

Ven. Mary of Agreda

'We owe God a deep regret of gratitude for the purely gratuitous gift of the true faith with which he has favored us. How many are the infidels, heretics and schismatic who do not enjoy comparable happiness? The earth is full of them and they are all lost!'

St. Alphonsus Maria de Liguori,

>>13483795
Evil blasphemy.

>>13464840
This meme was made by a brainlet.
>le catholic church supressed science
It was a catholic priest who first renewed the heliocentric hypothesis. Nicolas Copernicus.
>but muh Galileo was persecuted
Galileo himself was a major celebrity figure in the Catholic Church science scene and frequently spoke to prelate-scientists. That is how he even entered their radar and why the Church was so interested in him.

He he insisted without concrete evidence that his hypothesis was correct. Mostly as a result of his inability to explain certain phenomena (retrograde motion for instance), he was sworn to not renounce teaching the model as fact until he offered proof. He went back on this promise, which irritated some. What really fucked was the caprice of Pope Urban VIII, who after being a fan of the astronomer, having met him and spoken with him on several occasions, suddenly feuded with him. Some say this is because of papal politics, others say it is because of a small jab in the paper. He was the main reason for his continued house arrest (which would have otherwise lasted a short time).

Ironically, despite being on house arrest, the Catholic Church graciously fed and took care of him. He was in ailing health, nearly blind. He was still permitted to write, research, and carry on with life as usual. He produced his best work during these years (he predicted Neptune on paper 200+ years before anyone else) because he didn't have a care in the world and did not need to rely on anyone.

>don't believe in God
>defend catholics here and LARP as one because they seem alright and I enjoy their discussion
>get them fired up, non-believers are seething
>feel like I'm a 12th century Italian prelate delivering fiery homilies
>honed it so well that I feel like scolding actual catholics IRL
>tfw it hits me that I don't actually believe 75% of any of this (metaphysically speaking; however, I do empathize with the lifestyle and general advice) and am just an argumentative interloper wasting time.