/lit/ - Literature

Best version of the Bible to get bros? What's the best reader version and the best study version?

>>17600385
based

>>15197256

>>14920600
Hmmm... no, no, i must have been mistaken. I meant the one with cat eyes. Middle case, second shelf. Cats of the Compete? yes, i remember that one being a true hidden gem...

>thought it was rubbish about how blacks b so oppressed n shiet

>>13982210
Finally, thanks!

>>13927602
b&rp

>>13737101
Hobbes never suggested that people were purely rational, but that they possessed instrumental rationality i.e. an understanding of how to achieve a particular end. Hobbes lists a bunch of things which cause conflict between people near the start of Leviathan: Pride, Greed, Anger, Lust, Envy, all of which aren't "rational" in the traditional sense of the term. The state of nature argument is really just a hypothetical scenario which is meant to demonstrate what would happen if (bearing Hobbes' theory of human nature) there was suddenly no sovereign "to hold them all in awe". From this hypothetical he draws that a sovereign power is necessary for the most basic function of society and upon which all else is built: self-preservation. What this was really all about was giving a highly divided polity (considering England's civil war which was sparked by many rival factions, religious and political) a reason they could all agree upon to submit to a single sovereign. That is, to preserve their own life.
I agree with you that self-preservation and self-interest is too "low" a sentiment to build anything which can properly be called politics on, but saying that "the state of nature never existed" misses the point as none of the authors claimed it literally existed. You should rather say "Hobbes' conception of human nature is wrong" or "Society cannot/is not be formed on self-interest alone" or "an all powerful sovereign which is founded on self-interest is just a corrupted monarchy AKA tyranny, and so cannot be the basis of legitimacy" (which is what Rousseau said).
And yes, pic was unrelated.

>>13388120
Ludwig von Mises is based