/lit/ - Literature

>>15838890
>This means that there is no self that can be immortal
retroactively refuted by Shankaracharya

>>14702840
>2. The question whether the so called Ajnana (ignorance) plays the role of Upadi (limiting adjunct) in a real way or plays it illusory? If it plays the role of Upadi in a real way and bifurcates Brahman into Jiva (souls) and jagat (material world), then advaita position is given up
It's a wrongly premised question, everything within maya that is caused by it including avidya, upadi, jiva, jagat are all ultimately unreal, they are all part of the illusion of maya. It is Madhva himself and others who are mistakenly trying to bifurcate the unreality of maya into "real maya" and "unreal maya". Brahman is never actually bifurcated, but His power of maya is responsible for the false appearance of the beginningless series of universes and the jivas and jagat within them. Trying to untangle how the jivas and jagat arise is completely irrelevant as they are all equally a part of maya and are beginningless like maya is anyway, also I don't remember Shankara ever writing anywhere specifically that avidya bifurcates the world into the jivas and jagat, that may be a misunderstanding of Madhva. To Shankara maya is the cause of the appearance of the manifested world, whenever he speaks of aviyda it always implicitly means "the avidya caused by Brahman's maya".
>3. In case it plays its role illusory, it results in interdependence. Jiva will have only when he is bifurcated by Ajnana and Ajnana can play its role only when it is located in Jiva.
Again, this attack is premised on the same above misunderstanding as above, the question of interdependence becomes completely irrelevant anyway when 1) Advaita insists that causality is not absolutely real and that the working parts of the machine of the universe are given their coherence directly by maya rather then through interfacing with each other other via causality (this has parallels with Islamic occasionalism), and because of 2) the whole thing with all its parts is a false appearance which is sublated in spiritual realization and is revealed as never having actually existed to begin with. It's like demanding to know how the illusory snake that we imagined the rope to be digests its food if it's an illusion.

>>14697867
>The above claim of Bhaskara is rejected on the following grounds:
All of this is about Bhaskara's views, who is a Bhedabheda Vedantin and whom I'm not defending and so I will just ignore this part concerning Madhva'as attacks on his views and only address the portions about Advaita, which has totally different views than Bhaskara and Bhedabheda.

>The Sruti does not deny the world
See - Svetasvatara Up. 6.15: "the Supreme Self alone exists".

except Shankara, who become a ascetic volcel monk at age 8 and remained one until his death at age 32

>>13570884
>Nigga how tf am i God lmaooo

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>>12555862
I have hundreds of times already, eventually I came to the realization that LSD was a beacon drawing me to esoteric and mystic literature, and that after a long period of studying and implementing the lessons of said literature I reached a state where every single moment from when I wake up in the morning to when I fall asleep (and even in my dreams) is more profound and interesting than the height of a LSD trip. I still have a deep appreciation and love for psychedelics but once you reach the supreme bliss they are a 'step down' from reality in a sense, still enjoyable but ultimately only an entrancing distraction that just confirms what you already know. I still like to partake of them on occasion, in the same way that select cinema on occasion can still be really profound but in the end all cinema pales in comparison to the profoundness of real life.
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>>12033513
yes