/lit/ - Literature

>>12692204
>>12692305
>I just wish there weren't so many fanbois who don't seem to understand
40k's universe is ironic, and so are most fanbois. I don't think I've ever met a single person who *actually* thinks the Imperium is a good society.
W40K fans are just a bunch of ironic LARPers, and that's what makes it fun (Imperiumfags just being space deus vult larpers)

>>10403268
>horus heresy
>fanfiction

>>10358751
Not at all. I dig the idea of putting aside some of the trappings of traditional fantasy, but I don't see why that would produce such utter nonsense. Settings where people are supposedly part of a strict hierarchy, but they all joke with one another and talk as if they're high school pals, and the story acknowledges no unwritten rules of those societies. Meanwhile the only limits the characters have are always grounded in rational, solvable obstacles rather than insecurities, phobias, or any kind of spiraling anxiety. I'm not even saying we should focus on existential dread or anything like that, just that not everything can be so cut and dry and mechanistic.

But that's exactly how they think about it. I remember hearing from Sanderson either in one of his classes or that podcast he's on that "characters should always be consistent" because "fiction isn't real life, and readers will think you're pulling a fast one on them if a character does something unexpected." Basically, characters have certain traits that are immovable, and everything is on rails from that point on.

Ironically some of the best stuff I've read recently comes from the Horus Heresy series. The lore for that was written with so little in mind initially, that a lot of the actions the characters take seem... retarded. And that's great. The authors actually have to think about how these people could have all those godlike traits but also commit some of the dumbest, most tragic acts. And despite it being edgy bullshit, the interactions between the characters are a thousand times more lifelike than you'd find in most popular fantasy, in which the motivations of the characters are laid out straight and leave no room for debate.