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>>12659100
>I mean neo-china
yeah, well, this is the thing. Land seems to think that unlike us, the CCP seems to be prepared to operate a kind of dual role as being both absolute Sovereign *and* handmaiden to technology, and to use the entire nation as essentially a Petri dish for what gets cooked up. if you're fond of this old story, as i am, it can actually produce kind of a double-take: i thought - consulting my arbitrary and cringe-worthy racial stereotypes - that China was the land that preferred social order to technological innovation? so wat dis about CRISPR et al?

of course, the real story about these things can be explained more fruitfully by a scholar-commentator like Yuk Hui, who sees in China not only an alternate philosophical lineage but also a rather compromised attempt to keep up with the West in ways that the West has already shown are, generally speaking, the wrong way to go. but the question of Neo-China is the 1, 1A and 1B stories that interest me as well. so honestly anon i don't really know, i'm as curious about how things will play out as you are.

>capitalism-with-asian-values is the future of intelligence, and that's not good for humanity
no, probably not. but it's also going to force us to ask some very very interesting and necessary questions about ourselves as well, the kinds of lives people want to have, the future of socialism and a whole shitload of massively outdated concepts relating to ideology and so on that are in dire need of coming under review anyways. did you listen to the Murphy podcast? i thought he made some good points about this, things i agree with also. like him i am quite pessimistic about things, but i'm also optimistic in at least the sense that - as crazy as things may get - they will at least push over a lot of stuff that really is fucking killing us now.

the future of intelligence is going to put many of us back in a kind of desperate-underdog position, which is probably where the human meatbag does its best work, under a heroic kind of pressure. and China being a world player again is also good for perhaps convincing some of us that there are in fact things more important to the world than fucking Trump tweets or misgenderings. we've become appallingly degenerate, and the hard corrections are inbound.

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>>9836892
>analytical++
sounds interesting tbqh. wat is

>if I knew for sure I'd be writing it, but I know what it's not
just write it and post it then. /lit/ sorts everything out. could be interesting

>its thinking manifests a culture which is necessarily anti-innovation
might be a good scene tho. this story is interesting but maybe too much innovation fragilizes the West also. maybe a little order & protocol would be good. maybe

>chinese warfare is a chinese ripoff of western warfare, jumping on the bandwagon without the experience
oh you

>more about achieving Harmony
don't be talking reckless about muh Harmony

>and even before, tao didn't stop western abracadabra ships and all that shadowwork and telegraphing didn't fare well against western opiate schemes
true. was still some dirty shit, but ok. maybe they've learned? idk.

look, it's not like i'm sitting here waving a big foam finger for the Greater Chinese Co-Prosperity Sphere. but i do muchly love that eastern stuff, for many reasons. in terms of which nation is most likely to rule the roost in the 21C china still looks like a good bet. nick land seems to think so, anyways. we'll see tho

ideally ofc flaky cosmic new age bullshit wins and we all do aromatherapy & get high at ken wilber's place or something. that's my retarded fantasy.
>relax bros let's do some lsd in a sensory deprivation tank and wig out
>unironically sounds good to me desu

but it's probably not going to happen. dem skynet machines chasing us around & into resource wars & all that

getting tired of your mimetic monkey business, humanity. getting real tired

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