/lit/ - Literature

>>19751969
No they didn't, children mortality was high
which lowered average life expectancy drastically but if you made it to adult age you had high chances to make it to your 60s, especially as a noble/landowner.

>>19752050
This kind of arbitrary dualism is exactly what I am talking about. You polarize the material and spiritual like if they were two different planes, then the creation (implying there is a creator as a different entity) then differentiate "us" from the environment. All of this being justified by intuition and because the ancient believed it (as if they were fundamentally wiser or more in tune with existence).

To me these beliefs that you find in almost all traditions are not divine inspirations or whatever supernatural laws but evolutionary stable strategies: in short the societies that followed a set of norms/practices/laws/beliefs outperformed the ones that didn't and either:
- subjuguated them
- destroyed them
- just outlived them (as they would collapse from their own dysfunction)

A good example would be how patriarchy has completely wiped out matriarchy because it's just evolutionarily well performing organization for humans. Coincidentally since the West is abandonning patriarchy it's becoming increasingly weaker since we're getting outcompeted by civilizations that are not doing so (typically islamic ones who are outbreeding us and immigrating in Europe resulting in demographic and so cultural replacement).

Fact is that all the memes that we are seeing today pushed as "progress" (homosexuality, unbrided hypergamy, feminism, xenophilia, etc...) have very likely been tried in the past over the last 5000 years of civilization by some cultures at some point and got just wiped out as their fitness was low (a matriarchal society of hunter gatherers probably wouldn't do well in conflict against a patriarchal pastoralist society).
From this point tradition is an aggregation of memes that allowed the ones who adopted and perpetuated it to outbreed everyone else.

The ultimate "redpill" of that observation is that progressivism is actually regression and traditions is the real sum of progress from a few families of apes living in a forest to a race of space faring hominids.

This is much less poetic/romantic than the lunar and solar civilizations from Evola but it is way more articulate with our understanding of nature.