/lit/ - Literature

>>15989375
>ought

>>12897110
>I became wanker, destroyer of ambition.

>>12506727
lol

>hey /lit/, what's the anime equivalent of ____?

>>11344451

>>11284795
>>author thinks that focusing the story around something "kinda normal" instantly gives it depth or poignancy
>immediately gets a friend to edit it down to nothing.
>gets published
>editor deletes most of it
>ywn be minimal enough for my taste

>>11269556

>>11202386
>the final line
gets me every single time

>>11152858
I actually meant Joyce. I'm sorry you didn't get my reference.

>>11142261
This is fucking laughable. You wimps talk nothing but personal politics in book form all day. It's the only thing that interests you, and not until someone calls you out for it do you modify your criticism as someone supporting open discussion.
I just want to discuss books without discussing their relevance to the news cycles. It doesn't mean I don't want to talk about politics, but I'm looking to talk about character representations and what types of character are lauded here are male alpha fantasy or classic, gay sex books for mindless pleasure, or pedo flower arranging zen shit.

Just someone say Dumas and I'll shut the fuck up about there being no contemporary like him.

>>11135140
In a fight to the death, Beckett clearly came in second. No more thoughts needed, really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY22jmHAS5E

>>11123069
You're doing a much better job proving you wrong than I ever will, so why bother?

>>11099273
>when we make people into worthless drones predicated on happiness and achievement we wind up in a bad place: it's almost as if the situation requires a kind of human/psychic sacrifice in order to sustain itself, but eventually the human being you are sacrificing to capital just doesn't even have within them the requisite mana to make sacrifice meaningful.

That's sort of beautiful, but isn't that just a sentiment of disgust for the state of anxiety that is produced when needing to make meaning while being exhausted by the abundance of meaning to select from in this world if we are too burnt to make our own sacrifice.

I don't buy into the idea that our disillusionment is forced onto us by the realisation that our desires are being preyed upon because the inevitability is not coherent, the state of capital and our relation to it has too many other variables within the environment affecting changes to those interrelations to make speculating on coherent meaning making an absurd and masturbatory act that is really only engaged in by academics - while agents tenderly maximise their agency and those agents whose concensus is under "their" control, the "their" this time being represented by the variable X which cannot be accounted for but only speculated on as existing in some coherent summation. The violence of consensus is also the supreme joy of enacted revenge isn't it, like that scene in Germinal when the group of women rip the dick off that mine bossman. The joy in a reign of terror is really missed in always seeing violence as a negative. We hide it well, that to kill animals for food is always about the pleasure in killing and such, that taboo drive hidden under the square plastic wrapping of our lizard brains. Burnout presupposes agency and desire for alpha agency, godlikeness in intent, burnout of conformity, but I think I see less burnout because of the relation to achievement society and more burnout due to the relation of the civilisation to environmental and cultural variables that don't provide enough resources to be able to satisfy deep underlying unsatisfied desires such as infinite power, omniscience, ectera. The rewards of an achievement society should manifest in the real, but they don't and can't, so we ask how to do so from ourselves and we are disappointed with reality forever. But we absurdly don't let this dissonant conception interfere with the pragmatic agreements we make in conforming however temporary to an ideology in order to enact the joyful violence of consensus.

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effortposting, to see what I've learned so far I guess. Tomorrow I'll try to see where in the omnifuracation I have missed a warm gooey centre.

>>11005912
Samuel Beckett absolutely; Murphy and Molloy are kooky lads.

>>10962981
Just force yourself into the practice of clarity. Make communicating to some other the higher good, more so than what you want to express. This way you force yourself to be judged and have any unhealthy narcissitic tendies catapotled benevolently into the obsidian castle on the jade mountain where none by some dare to go except on agony of dealing with splatter stained red gutpile peoplepillowed warcrafted heap ruin of glory, there.

>>10549096
The absurd circle causes either the character to self-reflect on their attempted escape from absurdity or causes the audience or reader to do so....

>>10267949
u got filtered bratan

>>10181525
>which actually isn't there.
If you're into levelling the individual from your seat at the left hand of God, then yes. But that transcendence is as real as the self is necessary, as true as the world can be inside of our mind. Glory is achieved in actualising your part in justice/revenge or even within the spirit of conquering.

It's systematic and prescriptive violence that undermines the value of these pursuits through co-opting the aesthetics of glory that are inhuman and ultimately doomed. Reasonable people are no more than the farm hands prodding cattle into line so that the slaughter house door isn't too jammed.

Being humane is inevitable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY22jmHAS5E

Man I love how triggered Woolf was. Imagine being a refined upper class woman who also happens to be a brilliant writer, only to get completely BTFO by a vulgar Irish drunk with a fart fetish.

>he thinks people are afraid of criticising an American (American) novel

underrated thread